Phil Rogers Loses It

by Al Yellon on Dec 24, 2005 5:38 AM CST in Chicago Cubs News

No, really. This time he's gone completely off the deep end.

Thanx to South Side Sox for tipping me to today's Rogers column, in which he puts forth this absolute rubbish:

The Cubs give up Zambrano, shortstop Neifi Perez, center fielder Corey Patterson, left-hander Will Ohman (expendable with Scott Eyre and Glendon Rusch available for the bullpen) and one of two on-the-cusp pitching prospects, either left-hander Rich Hill or right-hander Angel Guzman. They get Tejada and as many as five prospects who could fill needs in the near future--a pitcher (Hayden Penn, John Maine or Adam Loewen), two outfielders (Joe Borchard and one among the Baltimore group of Val Majewski, Jeff Florentino and Nick Markakis), first baseman Casey Rogowski and left-hander Arnie Munoz.

The Sox give up one arm from the Garland/Contreras/Garcia/Vazquez mix and four prospects who aren't being penciled in for big things--Borchard, Rogowski (a really good hitter who doesn't fit on a team that has Konerko and Thome), Munoz and Charles Haeger, a knuckleballer who pitched well in Venezuela after dominating Double A. They get back Bedard, a lefty with great stuff; Ohman, who fills the bullpen need and could allow Neal Cotts to move into the rotation in 2007; and either Hill or Guzman.

The Orioles wind up with the most inventory, as they should. They get Zambrano and Garland, Contreras, Garcia or Vazquez along with Perez, Patterson and Haeger. They give up Tejada, Bedard and a pitching prospect.

In this deal, the Orioles take on a little additional salary and the Sox save some, which they could put away to help with a midseason move. The Cubs would get Tejada while hanging on to Ronny Cedeno--who becomes the second baseman, triggering a Todd Walker trade--and Pie. The deal would be essentially neutral in terms of payroll, allowing Hendry the flexibility to pick off two or three of the remaining free agents, including a starter to replace Zambrano.

He did write that this was

drawn up on a cocktail napkin

... which is about all it's worth. So before you all froth at the mouth and spout off a couple dozen diaries about this, take a deep breath and enjoy your holiday weekend.

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haha

Phil Rogers. What a joke.

Happy Holidays everyone!

by mikew on Dec 24, 2005 5:48 AM CST reply actions

Also..

Al's right. Keep the diaries about rumors to a frickin minimum. THe last couple of days have been asinine!

by mikew on Dec 24, 2005 5:49 AM CST reply actions

I hadn't noticed this when I first saw the article

... but Rogers didn't even get one of the Baltimore players' names right.

It's Jeff FIORENTINO, not "Florentino". What a maroon.

by Al Yellon on Dec 24, 2005 7:18 AM CST reply actions

Very colorful!

"What a maroon." Thanks for making me blow the soy milk froth off my cinnamon topped, lite-decaf-cappuccino-latte.

by DrCrawdad on Dec 24, 2005 10:03 AM CST up reply actions

Maroon ?

How did the U of C get into this thread? Or did you mean macaroon? Rogers brain does resemble shredded cocoanut.

by slide on Dec 24, 2005 1:07 PM CST up reply actions

Man.

Did NONE of you watch Bugs Bunny?

by Al Yellon on Dec 24, 2005 1:19 PM CST up reply actions

Maroon

Al, shouldn't you have given credit to Bugs Bunny for that quote??

by LT on Dec 24, 2005 1:18 PM CST up reply actions

Wasn't a quote...

... but sure, credit where credit is due.

by Al Yellon on Dec 24, 2005 1:19 PM CST up reply actions

mel blanc

May he rest in peace. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Blanc

by cubbybear on Dec 24, 2005 7:34 PM CST up reply actions

Al...

I got it from my Dad... but whatever works for you. :)

by jameslcrockett on Dec 25, 2005 3:05 AM CST up reply actions

Wow

He really has gone off the deep end. I love this paragraph:

This is the point where I say that I think many many people are seriously over-valuing Tejada. He's not worth that much. No one is.

Hey-Dawson backwards is Noswad!---Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on Dec 24, 2005 8:38 AM CST reply actions

Unless you can get roger clemens to pitch again...

And he hits like Barry Bonds, and fields like Andruw Jones. But genetic engineering is still a little bit away from that. And that still might not be good enough, vis-a-vis all those steroid allegations.

by cubbybear on Dec 24, 2005 7:37 PM CST up reply actions

Rogers

How many cocktails did Rogers inhale prior to drawing up that trade on his napkin?

by Clark Addison on Dec 24, 2005 8:56 AM CST reply actions

The article didn't say...

... I presume this will be Rogers' regular Sunday column (it wasn't in the Saturday print edition of the paper).

The editors must all be on vacation. Maybe they'll pull it before the final edition is out tomorrow morning.

by Al Yellon on Dec 24, 2005 10:04 AM CST up reply actions

Hmm

are we limiting this to just over-the-counter drugs? I wouldn't put some PCP out of the question.

by cubbybear on Dec 24, 2005 7:38 PM CST up reply actions

Unbelievable.

Even I wouldn't think something this absurd would work.

I have a better one: How about if the Orioles give up Tejada plus a couple bottom of the barrel prospects for THE ENTIRE NEW YORK YANKEES PITCHING STAFF plus Jeter. The Yankees can even throw in a couple bucks.

Phil needs to have his head examined... even more so than I do!

The one thing I don't understand from Mr. Rogers' column... why is it that we don't end up with Rondell?

by nickler on Dec 24, 2005 9:04 AM CST reply actions

Give Rogers a break...

He's working on new stand-up material.

by greggie44 on Dec 24, 2005 9:36 AM CST reply actions

phil

What a butt munch! I think he has finally lost it. There is no way that would ever happen. Hey Al, what do you honestly think (I know you can't be certain) the future holds for Prior?
It seems like all of our young home grown pitchers wind up with arm trouble. Is this a problem all around the league and I just notice it more because of how closely I follow the Cubs, or is there really a problem in our system? Every time I turn around Angel Guzman has been "shut down" because of arm trouble, and we all know what has happened with Wood and Prior. I realize that Prior has had two freakish injuries, but the whole achilles induce elbow tendinitis a few years ago seemed like a smoke screen.
My only other thought is that if Tejada is the kind of guy who gets pissed off and mouths off about wanting a trade is he really the kind of guy we want in our clubhouse? I am of the opinion that if you sign a 6 year deal as a free agent for millions of dollars to play somewhere then that is exactly what you do.

Madog93. There is only one good season of the year -- BASEBALL SEASON!

by madog93 on Dec 24, 2005 9:45 AM CST reply actions

This deal will never get done.

Phil had too many cocktails. Hendry needs to get back to real business after the holiday (you all have a wonderful and safe one as well!) and get crackin' on that non-tendered list with Byrnes at the top of his to-do PRIORities!

by teacher tom on Dec 24, 2005 9:57 AM CST reply actions

Rogers Has Christmas Confused With April Fool's

by BeerCub on Dec 24, 2005 10:03 AM CST reply actions

You can count

on most of his columns to be written on Rogers Fool Day.

Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on Dec 24, 2005 1:49 PM CST up reply actions

You know what...

I think Z attacked Rogers or something. Why does he always keep on trading him? Has he written something on the Prior thing? I can't remember. Well, I hope Z did do something to Rogers because he needs to stop writing these trade scenerios.

Cubbie Blue always sPaRkLes in my eyes. Time to sPaRkLe Jimmy!

by sparkles721 on Dec 24, 2005 11:27 AM CST reply actions

That must have been...

one heck of a cocktail.

Besides the obvious - Go Irish.

by PopeFlick on Dec 24, 2005 8:54 PM CST reply actions

I still...

can't figure out how anybody thinks Tejada is worth one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball much less two.

by jameslcrockett on Dec 25, 2005 3:06 AM CST reply actions

Oh my god!

Pgil Rogers is severly touched! This deal sounds like a bad dream that you have and wake up trying to figure out who was really there and what did you actually end up doing. He should not have a job at the Tribune...that article is a complete joke. I'm starting to think that we just move on and search for something better that doesn't give PRog the opportunity to try his hand at GMing. He is nuts...I'm actually offended by his suggestions and it left me itchin to sign on here and bitch...thatnk god for BCB!

Anyone can have a bad century...

by Kinky Reggae on Dec 25, 2005 12:26 PM CST reply actions