2000
HOUSTON -- A few days ago, you saw Mike's cartoon giving a brief history of our little bleacher group, and mentioning that my 2000th major league game was coming up soon.
Last night was the one.
Those break down as follows:
- 1674 Cub games at Wrigley Field
- 112 Cub road games
- 151 White Sox games (excluding those vs. Cubs; those are included in the Cub totals above)
- 22 Brewer games in Milwaukee (excluding those where the Cubs were the visitors)
- 25 regular season games in other cities not involving the Cubs
- 16 "other", including three World Series games (one in Kansas City in 1980, and two in Milwaukee in 1982), and six All-Star games
I didn't want to say anything before the game so as not to jinx it, but the Cubs nearly always win my major milestone games. Last night was no exception: a 4-2 win over the Astros, which also kept my perfect record in Texas intact (now 5-0 at Minute Maid Park), winning the series and moving to within 5.5 games of the wild-card leading Astros -- and also the Phillies, who tied Houston with their 4-3 win over the Nationals, and I'll have a bit more to say about all of this later on.
During the hot, sticky day I didn't do too much, just hung around downtown Houston, wandered through the Houston Center, which at first glance appears to be a much fancier mall than it really is -- it's more a glorified food court with a few stores and the promise of some others, which crowds up with office workers at lunchtime but is otherwise pretty empty. Didn't buy anything and then headed off to the game.
During Cubs BP I headed over to the Crawford Boxes, the seats right above the scoreboard in LF, where people hang out waiting for baseballs. Got one! Nomar hit one that smacked off the concrete above the seats, and it landed right at my feet, where I picked it up. Then I wandered down to the Cubs dugout, where Jim Hendry was standing with his sons; after BP was over Hendry flipped a couple of dozen baseballs into the stands, aiming at kids, which I thought was a nice thing to do.
I was surprised, frankly, by the size of the crowds for the two games I attended -- 31,963 on Tuesday and 29,978 last night, over 10,000 short of capacity both nights. This for a team that's been about the hottest in the NL since the end of May, that's leading a playoff race, and that had two quality pitchers going and a popular opponent. Also, many Houstonians had apparently not been apprised of the ESPN-requested game time change; at 6:05 game time the place was less than half full, and people were still walking in at 7:15, by which time the fast-moving game was already in the fifth inning.
There were far fewer Cub fans in attendance than there were last year when I was here in June 2004; I suppose that's because of the disappointment of 2004 and the mediocre performances so far in 2005. You could tell this on the home runs hit last night, both Z's and Nomar's; these are occasions where you really stand up and cheer and there were only scattered pockets of Cub fans here and there -- I'd say only a couple of thousand all told.
Those who didn't come this year missed two terrific games, and apart from the meltdown on Monday, the Cubs have now played seven consecutive games well -- that includes the Saturday loss to the Cardinals, where they just got beat.
The Astros have some dry-erase boards behind the plate where they post the lineups, so I walked over and wrote them down before they were announced. Both on the board, and as announced, Jeromy Burnitz was sixth and Corey Patterson seventh. Thus, I was surprised when these two batted in the opposite order -- I thought at first it might be another Dusty Baker lineup snafu, but no one said anything, so the official lineup cards must have just differed from what was announced.
Z pitched nearly flawlessly -- he had one bad inning, where Craig Biggio's leadoff double and a walk helped lead to two runs, one of which was unearned when Nomar threw a double-play ball into the Astros dugout. You know, he looks flashy in the field and his lateral movement doesn't seem to have been impaired by his injury, but there are times when he seems to make really bad decisions, such as this one. An inning later, he left the game witih "back stiffness", which doesn't appear to be serious and the word is that with the off-day, he'll be all right for the oddly-timed 4:05 pm (CT) start in Denver on Friday.
Otherwise, Z was not only getting nearly everyone out (he allowed only three baserunners apart from the fourth inning, two walks and a single), he was doing it with uncharacteristic efficiency. After he walked Morgan Ensberg with one out in the 9th, he left for Ryan Dempster having thrown 116 pitches -- which for him, isn't that many, considering it was a 9th inning total, not a 7th inning total.
Some more goofy defense made it a little bit of nervous time; when Todd Walker's attempt at a game-ending DP went awry on both ends, it put runners on first and third with one out. I had thought, at first, that Walker had gotten the out at second, and so when Orlando Palmeiro bounced into a 3-6 force play, I thought the game was over.
You could forgive me for trusting the scoreboard on that; it was goofy all night, the side scoreboards visible down the LF line had it showing the fourth inning during the fifth, changing ball and strike counts to suit what the Astros were thinking the calls should be rather than what the umpires actually called (and to be fair, I thought the strike zones were pretty odd for both teams in both games), and not having the right batters posted on several occasions.
Nonetheless, Ryan Dempster bore down and kept the usually-powerful Astros from hitting the ball out of the infield, and ended the game happy for us, with a ground ball to Neifi!
Odd sights: a woman sitting behind me wearing way too much makeup, crowing about her soon-to-be-divorce, getting really drunk and pawing her boyfriend -- at least I hope it was her boyfriend, because if she had just met the guy, she was getting WAY too familiar. And at the end of the game, the aisles clog up very quickly, and for an interesting reason -- everyone's being polite! People let everyone in the row behind them out first, so if you are in the lower rows (I was in row 16) you have to wait a while before you get to the concourse.
It was worth waiting last night, for the win; the Cubs are now 5.5 games behind the Astros AND the Phillies, who, as I said above, now are tied for the lead.
Today, the Phillies will make up their rained-out game from Tuesday night in a split day/night doubleheader against Washington. The best scenario for the Cubs would be for a split, which would maintain the 5.5 game difference. If the Phillies win both, they'll take over first place in the wild-card race and be 6.5 games ahead of the Cubs; if the Nats sweep, then they would take over the top spot, and the Cubs would trail by six games. Unless, of course, Houston beats Milwaukee tonight, in which case the Astros could be first again. Or not. It's complicated.
That smidgen of hope is worming its way back, isn't it? Don't you feel it? The Cubs head on to Colorado, where they have always played well and where they face a team that's 31 games under .500.
A sweep there, and then maybe we'll have something.
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Let me be one of the first to congratulate you, Al
If the Cubs ever get to the World Series, you, sir, should have the honor of throwing out the first pitch at Wrigley Field!
I don't think there is any sportswriter in Chicago or anywhere else who knows more or cares more about the Cubs than you do.
Thank you for your terrific enthusiasm for this club and always bright optimism.
Hope springs eternal for Cub fans worldwide -- and this hope is nurtured by a great man himself, Mr. Al Yellon!
by Butchoh31 on Aug 18, 2005 8:43 AM CDT 0 recs
Man...
Seriously, thanks, and I'm happy to share all of this with all of you, and your contributions help make this site the great gathering place for Cub fans that it's become.
by Al on
Aug 18, 2005 8:46 AM CDT
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I agree
Congrats on the 2000th game
You better make the last road trip to Houston w/your 5-0 record.... A four game sweep to end the season could mean big things
by BillHoldenFan on
Aug 18, 2005 10:59 AM CDT
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Thanks, Al
Yours is - quite simply - manna from heaven.
Thanks for being a twice daily (at least) must read!
by greencubsman on
Aug 18, 2005 8:48 PM CDT
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Hey...
I've always hoped to give everyone a feel of what it's like at the ballpark every day, and I'm glad you found your way here.
Keep the faith.
by Al on
Aug 18, 2005 9:06 PM CDT
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Glad you enjoyed your trip to our fine state!
Houston folks view their sports events more as entertainment than as supporting the team (including all of their bandwagon fans of last fall). This means they don't try very hard to get to the games that don't fall on the weekend, even when the games are at night. I have fond memories of going to "two dollar Tuesday" games at the Astrodome while I was in school in Houston, when my friends and I were often part of such a small crowd that it could be accurately described as having an intimate feeling, even in the cavernous Dome.
Regarding the Cubs fans' attendance, I was at all of the Cubs' games in Houston this spring and I believe they were all sell-outs or close to sell-outs, with Cubs fans being in evidence everywhere. But those games were on the weekend, and we lost 2 out of 3, with the last game being the Prior meltdown/9-3 blowout.
by dfrancon on Aug 18, 2005 8:48 AM CDT 0 recs
speaking of personal stats....
by Tommy on Aug 18, 2005 8:54 AM CDT 0 recs
I forgot to ask:
;)
by dfrancon on Aug 18, 2005 9:08 AM CDT 0 recs
Al
by Thunderclap Newman on Aug 18, 2005 9:08 AM CDT 0 recs
Actually...
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 10:08 AM CDT
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Gee
Isn't saying this what got me in trouble?
Ih yeah. That and a targeted "dumbass."
by Ivychat on Aug 18, 2005 10:57 AM CDT 0 recs
Are You In Trouble?
by jpalaska on
Aug 18, 2005 11:09 AM CDT
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Al
As for this season, I still subscribe to Chuck's depiction of it being a dead parrott. And if the Cubs do not kill me with their malaise, Dempster certainly will. Are we sure we want to go into next year with this guy as the designated closer?
by victor on Aug 18, 2005 11:25 AM CDT 0 recs
18/20
Just think, if we had him last year going 18/20 instead of LaTroilet blowing 8 of 12 1-run saves, we would have had back-to-back post season appearances.
by socalbob on
Aug 18, 2005 11:28 AM CDT
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And the two games Demp blew......
by mannytrillo on
Aug 18, 2005 12:12 PM CDT
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really? didn't know that--thanks
by socalbob on
Aug 18, 2005 12:30 PM CDT
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The BS/Ws for Dempster were ...
by Gregory on
Aug 18, 2005 1:42 PM CDT
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I want
by victor on
Aug 18, 2005 12:31 PM CDT
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agree on all points
by socalbob on
Aug 18, 2005 12:42 PM CDT
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No way
He's a closer. Instead of blowing $14 million on Wagner, spend $12.5mm on Wood. Give Dempster $4mm to setup. Then, go trade for a starter and sign a free agent.
You have to make those two moves because not one of the minor leaguers is gonna be ready by next year.
by Ivychat on
Aug 18, 2005 12:46 PM CDT
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exactly
If Hill or Pinto or Brownlie or Hagerty or Nolasco was ready, you could take their $350K salary in the 5 spot and live with a $12.5M closer for one year. I like signing a Wagner to close for 3 years at which time the Wood and Muddux contracts are up leaving room to sign Big Z to a long-term deal and re-up Prior. And it gives the team the chance to win "now" without having to find another low-rent pitcher for the 5 spot. They need serious help in the OF and need to spend some money there as well as at 2B/SS.
Now that Maddux is going to be renewed ($9.5M?)for making his performance kickers, you can't have a $12.5M closer.
I totally disagree with your view on that one.
by socalbob on
Aug 18, 2005 12:53 PM CDT
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No Wagner, Wood back in rotation maybe
Wood is a good starter when he is injury free. If this shoulder problem can be fixed, then throw him back in the rotation. If it looks like Angel Guzman is coming along well, throw him in the rotation and put Wood in the bullpen. Maybe we can make a play at Burnett who would be worth overpaying for his services and then we can definitely throw Wood in the pen
by Will71081 on
Aug 18, 2005 1:03 PM CDT
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Forget Guzman
by victor on
Aug 18, 2005 1:07 PM CDT
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Does that mean...
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 1:15 PM CDT
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Forgetting Guzman
by Matt Allison on
Aug 18, 2005 1:18 PM CDT
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I kind of agree...
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 1:22 PM CDT
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Lost
Because spending that much on a closer is dumb? It's not for a lights out closer. Dennis Eckersley's presence meant you had 8 innings to get a lead, or you lost. He shortened the game for the oppoenent: You play nine, they play 8.
Or because you need Wood and his 5 innings per start as a starter? Wood cannot stay healthy long enough to be reliable and his wildness causes him to run high pitch counts. He also taxes a bullpen.
You cannot start Kerry Wood in 2006.
by Ivychat on
Aug 18, 2005 1:26 PM CDT
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Yes
That is why I think that Hendry will try out Woody as a starter one more time. Woody also wants to start; as he knows that is where the big bucks are. If he reinjures himself again, I am sure he will be more amenable to going to the pen; not until then.
by victor on
Aug 18, 2005 1:36 PM CDT
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But isn't the $12M
What is truly fiscally irresponsible IMO, is to pay Wood $12M to start and provide mediocre results. I say use him in the pen and burn him up trying to get to the WS in '06. Win or lose, send him and his enormous salary packing.
by Thunderclap Newman on
Aug 18, 2005 2:02 PM CDT
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Easy
Wagner's at 9 million already.
Issringhausen's at $8.75mm starting next year.
Foulke's at $7mm.
Wood gets $12.5mm if he only scratches the pimples off his ass. Do you trust him as a starter? I don't. Do you trust him as a reliever? No, but I do more than as a starter.
The dollars are spent. Get the best return possible.
by Ivychat on
Aug 18, 2005 2:18 PM CDT
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He is only 28, not yet ready to write him off
If the diagnosis is that he cannot throw more then 4 innings, then get him in the bullpen, Kerry's health is the only thing that hinders him.
by Will71081 on
Aug 18, 2005 3:18 PM CDT
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Well the fact
by Thunderclap Newman on
Aug 18, 2005 3:37 PM CDT
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Clap
I'd rather take Woody's on-again off-again starting career than watching Mitre, Koronka, Hill, et al pitch brutally for a full season with Wood sitting there as we lose 9-2.
And I already know the reply--"just put him in the pen to avoid all that and go get another starter." I don't agree with that. When we can roll Wood out there with Prior and Z our team has a huge advantage against our opponents. Maddux at the #4 will beat most #4's and Williams/Rusch is certainly as good or better than any #5 out there. Eliminate Wood and everyoen moves up a spot and we are not that much better.
And I realize I'm hoping for an injury-free campaign.
by socalbob on
Aug 18, 2005 3:47 PM CDT
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I agree....
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 3:59 PM CDT
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Close to his level
When looking at Kerry Wood, you have to look at the body of work. Not the arm and a 1998 game against Houston.
FWIW, I just love #2 on the "through age 27" list.
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by Ivychat on
Aug 18, 2005 4:19 PM CDT
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I said....
Unfortunately, I have never heard of Ernie Broglio or anybody else on this list besides Halladay and Chan Ho Park. Only eight of them have pitched during my life(and only the 3 are active), so I'm pretty sure Hendry can't bring anybody from this list to pitch for the Cubs. If only the 3 active pitchers on this list compare to Wood, then I think we need a bigger list because otherwise we still have no one to replace him because I don't think Halladay is available.
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 4:54 PM CDT
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FYI
I'm with ya sparkles. Wood--rotation of bust!
by socalbob on
Aug 18, 2005 4:59 PM CDT
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I forgot
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 5:08 PM CDT
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Sparkles...
This isn't a criticism by any means... but I'd like to recommend that you get yourself a book on baseball history and read up on some of the historical things that we have referred to here.
You'll enjoy it and learn something in the process.
Or, start at the Baseball Almanac, which has a lot of good historical info.
For a great book about the history of the Cubs, get Peter Golenbock's Wrigleyville.
by Al on
Aug 18, 2005 10:00 PM CDT
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Yes...
Sometimes I wonder if my parents were Cubs fans, if I would have went against it and been a Cards or White Sox fan, or still have been a Cubs fan. Plus, it would have made everything so much easier for me.
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 10:41 PM CDT
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should have typed
by socalbob on
Aug 18, 2005 5:00 PM CDT
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Well
I give you that he has days where he sparkles. But these are too infrequent to be called a huge advantage IMO. Starting may also be dangerous to his health, so when he hits the DL you'll end up with your list of "Mitre, Koronka, Hill, et al" starting anyway.
by Thunderclap Newman on
Aug 18, 2005 4:02 PM CDT
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the buckos may be spent
by victor on
Aug 19, 2005 3:51 PM CDT
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I can't
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 3:25 PM CDT
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Wood in the rotation
Now, considering how good he has shown himself to be in the bullpen; how many cubs fans are going to 'hope' for arm troubles so he can become our closer?! :-) I know it is sick, but it makes you wonder.
by victor on
Aug 18, 2005 1:05 PM CDT
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I don't....
Yesterday was weird though. He started to warm-up and then they didn't use him, something they said they weren't going to do and hadn't happened before. I thought that we were going to see Wood get his first save. With all the drama that went on, I was thinking that it would have been a good idea, especially after they had him up.
by sparkles721 on
Aug 18, 2005 1:20 PM CDT
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Re: Warming up Wood and then not using him:
by Gregory on
Aug 18, 2005 1:51 PM CDT
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I'm with ya, Chuck
Wood
Demp
Williamson
Ohman
Hill (Loogy/mop up unless he proves more, similar to Cotts on the south side)
Pick up a cheap FA or two to fill out the pen.
Use the balance of the payroll to address the OF and middle IF issues.
by Thunderclap Newman on
Aug 18, 2005 1:26 PM CDT
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That's the point
This is an interesting argument, but it's moot. The Cubs brass is going to put Wood back into the rotation next season, and it's easy to see why. The importance of closers notwithstanding, the starting rotation is the very heart of a ballclub. An arm like Wood's, and the intermittent stretches of brilliance he's shown as a starter since his rookie season in '98, presents too great a temptation to keep out of the rotation, big money or no big money. It's too difficult to find good starters who are as capable of dominance as Wood has proven himself to be (albeit not consistently throughout his career). I suspect that Hendry, Baker & Co. (and Wood himself) have already sold themselves on the idea that Wood circa '06 can combine Matt Morris's post-debridement recovery with Wood's characteristic velocity.
The problem is that Wood's medical history is not promising in that regard. I have a sinking feeling that, no matter how many times he goes under the knife (or the 'scope), he's still going to end up a sore-armed off-again-on-again DL resident when put into a situation in which his pitches pile up.
by Gregory on
Aug 18, 2005 2:13 PM CDT
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Don't be so sure
by Thunderclap Newman on
Aug 18, 2005 2:17 PM CDT
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The key
by Ivychat on
Aug 18, 2005 2:20 PM CDT
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You're right
by amaru on
Aug 18, 2005 2:21 PM CDT
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Spring Training
by Thunderclap Newman on
Aug 18, 2005 2:26 PM CDT
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That's what
Ultimately I think Wood will have the final descision..
by amaru on
Aug 18, 2005 2:35 PM CDT
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I'm going by what Hendry said
by Gregory on
Aug 18, 2005 4:32 PM CDT
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I completely agree...
Look at the success people like John Wetteland, and Eric Gagne, had when converted to closer. Granted, neither had been longtime major league starters.
Maybe John Smoltz is the best comp. Smoltz had elbow trouble -- Wood has shoulder trouble. Smoltz had 3 1/2 years as a lights-out closer, then went back into the rotation. He's a likely Hall of Famer, and has made nearly $90 million in his career.
That's what Kerry Wood should be looking at -- and he's quite a bit younger than Smoltz was when he switched over.
by Al on
Aug 18, 2005 6:04 PM CDT
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Smoltz/Wood
Smoltz was a more effective, consistent starter at the time he went to the pen than Kerry Wood. Which actually makes your point stronger. The Cubs would lose less by moving Woody to the pen than the Braves did when they moved Smoltz. Atlanta was moving a Cy Young winner to the pen. The Cubs would be moving an injury prone, occasionally spectacular, but more often enigmatic and inconsistent starter to the pen.
by perseman on
Aug 18, 2005 7:46 PM CDT
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I admit...
by Al on
Aug 18, 2005 8:10 PM CDT
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Remember the Braves rotation was set
If we overspend in the rotation, which is the most important part of this team, put Murton in left and lead him off. Let Lawton go. Bring Pie up, put him in center, throw Corey in right, and we should be able to swing a deal with Nomar mainly because of the injuries.
by Will71081 on
Aug 19, 2005 10:16 AM CDT
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I think I would die and go to heaven if we sign
by Will71081 on
Aug 19, 2005 10:17 AM CDT
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I like...
by sparkles721 on
Aug 19, 2005 10:24 AM CDT
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I too...
Remember, you don't have to look ONLY at the free-agent list for possible acquisitions. There are tradeable commodities just about everywhere in baseball.
Example: Jason Schmidt. I'd say he might be available for the right price in the offseason.
That's just one guy off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others.
by Al on
Aug 19, 2005 11:25 AM CDT
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Jason Schmidt is A.J. Burnett except older and
by Will71081 on
Aug 19, 2005 12:05 PM CDT
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Come on, Will
by Thunderclap Newman on
Aug 19, 2005 2:42 PM CDT
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Look at the similarities in their careers
Look a little closer at the numbers.
by Will71081 on
Aug 19, 2005 3:03 PM CDT
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al-
and, please keep on bleeding blue !!
by dc60123 on Aug 18, 2005 11:52 AM CDT 0 recs
Congrats
by park on Aug 18, 2005 11:55 AM CDT 0 recs

