The Complaint Department Is Closed
Before you start bitching about Dusty Baker's lineup selection today -- and I agree, it was idiotic -- consider this:
The 1-through-6 hitters in the lineup, supposedly the good ones, went 0-for-22.
The 7-8-9 hitters -- Jose F. Macias, the one we'd love to put anywhere except in the lineup; Henry Blanco, the backup catcher with a lifetime .216 average, and Greg Maddux, the pitcher, had all four Cub hits today.
What's wrong with this picture?
Nothing that a day off for Derrek Lee, and maybe Todd Walker, wouldn't help. With Nomar Garciaparra scheduled to play tomorrow night, maybe it's a good day to give Walker the night off and play Neifi (I'm taking away the ! again, for a while, even though he is 8-for-28, .286, with two walks, in the Cubs' last ten games, even including today's 0-for-4) at second base.
See, this is the sort of thing that does drive me nuts about Dusty Baker. One of his legendary strong points as a manager is supposed to be his loyalty to his players, how they'll all run through a wall for him, and that makes them play better, maybe get that extra little something that'll win a game for you.
The 2003 Cubs accomplished this under Baker. For some reason, this team can't seem to do it.
I've started reading Buzz Bissinger's "Three Nights In August," the book about three days in the managing life of Cardinals manager Tony LaRussa. As Cub fans, we have to have a healthy dislike of Tony, but I caution you -- look at the results. He wins.
And why does he win?
Even in the early parts of this book, the difference between LaRussa and Baker is clear, and it's summed up thus -- Bissinger describing LaRussa:
(Emphasis added by me)
There's the key right there, and the difference between LaRussa and Baker. LaRussa may love his guys, but he'll do what is necessary to win. Baker loves his guys to a fault -- he'll keep on doing the same thing even when it's been proven it doesn't work, and he won't try something new even when the chorus around him is singing loudly to, for example:
Dusty's too loyal. If the players are performing, this loyalty is wonderful, it puts all the players in line behind an inspirational leader, and moves on to glorious victory. But if they stop -- well, then, it's more along the lines of Captain E. J. Smith nobly going down with the Titanic.
At a certain point even a man as loyal as Baker has got to go to Jose Macias and say, "We're trying someone else today."
Two other things struck me in the 66 pages of Bissinger's book that I've read so far. It's about the Cubs/Cardinals series of August, 2003 -- chosen at random, incidentally, by Bissinger; he couldn't have known that he'd get one of the most critical of series of the 2003 pennant race -- and at one point he credits Mark Prior and Kerry Wood for the Cubs' "swagger and success", calling them "punk rockers".
That phrase has a whole new meaning now, just a little less than two years later.
And we'd have all scoffed back then, because we were all anticipating the return of Corey Patterson and his logical development into the star he, and the rest of us, thought he might become -- but perhaps the single worst decision made after the 2003 season ended was not re-signing Kenny Lofton. Even at age 38, Lofton has a far better OBA (.377) than any Cub leadoff man, and Lofton has that certain "swagger" that can help define a winning team.
I don't think it's coincidence that Lofton has played in nine postseasons with five different teams.
Oh, well. Cliche meter on: That was then, this is now.
This is all a roundabout way of saying the Cubs looked like they would have rather been anywhere else but sunny, pleasant (82 degrees) Shea Stadium this afternoon, where the Mets dispatched them easily 2-0.
The only things worth mentioning in this game, besides the scrubs doing all the hard work, are all Greg Maddux:
- He threw a very nice game; he allowed three singles and a double and two runs and pitched well enough to win.
- Greg and Derrek Lee pulled off a Web Gem-quality defensive play retiring Mets pitcher Jae Seo for the last out of the seventh, Maddux picking up a slow grounder and firing off-balance and Lee diving for it, keeping his foot on the base for the out.
Walker hit a fly ball, but not deep enough to score a run, and Lee struck out on a pitch that scraped the ground.
This means, that on a road trip on which the Cubs had to go 5-1 or 6-0, the best they can do is 2-4, and they must win tomorrow to do it.
Oddly enough, in this odd season, they have still not lost any ground in the wild-card race. Houston lost again to the Giants for the second day in a row; so even though there are now six teams to climb over, the deficit remains at five games.
I'm not saying to have unrealistic hopes -- I can read the standings as well as anyone.
But anyone who tells you they know what's going to happen tomorrow -- well, give me some winning lottery numbers. Baseball is full of surprises.
Let's have some good ones for a change.
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Losing ground
by jerry @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2005 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
Team is done, now what?
Watched Houston last night, was at the game today:
Of course, Schmidt and Hawkins (!) hold them to three hits, and Lowry And Hawkins (!) hold them to two hits through 8 (before they got two in the 9th.)
Anyway, they're wayyyy overdue for a slump. Maybe this is the start. Hope it continues through next week when we go down there.
Wow...
The only thing Fassero and Clemens have in common is that they both used to pitch for the Red Sox.
It's Brian Cooper
I Know It's A Saturday Night And All..
I have a feeling...
the fans merely reflect the team
it was, by and large, damn good baseball. too bad the club of choice for us, although never being very far out of the game, were also barely even in it.
just one of those days where the journey was a lot better than the destination. perhaps being philosophical about it all is my defense mechanism; for me denial is a dangerous choice.
given 1,000 years i would never improve on the words of 10man from 2004:
"everything that can be analyzed, has been analyzed.
everything that can be criticized, has been criticized.
everything that can be praised, has been praised."
"i will now be rooting for victory every day with my emotion, but not my intellect. for i can survive a broken heart, but there is no recovery from brain damage."
by dc60123 @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2005 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Friendly advice for Baker
"In a world gone wrong, Dusty Baker's concern isn't just the St. Louis Cardinals or the National League wild card. It's enduring a tide of sentiment to run him out of town."......
Bruce Jenkins/ San Francisco Chronicle
by hank01 on Aug 6, 2005 8:18 PM CDT reply actions
link
Sorry- I should have copied it and posted it. Is one allowed to do that?
by hank01 on Aug 7, 2005 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions
what a bizarre article
but what do the last two paragraphs have to do with the rest of the article or the headline? if it's a "notes" piece, then why so much space dedicated to baker?
it seems as if the writer had a mininum word count and ran out of things to say. which might also explain his need to play the race card.
by kjk on Aug 7, 2005 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Shame on Bruce Jenkins
Other than that egregious lapse in judgment, though, Jenkins didn't write a bad column. I didn't think it was anti-Cubs-fan or anti-Chicago at all. Jenkins realized, to his credit, that Chicago and San Francisco are two very different sports environments, and he spelled that out for Bay Area readers who might not be aware of that. Yes, he portrayed Cubs fans as demanding and desperate, but ... guess what? We are. The complacent fan base that used to be happy just to show up at the Confines, suck down some brews, grab some rays, and enjoy those cuddly Cubbies win or lose, is changing. And it's changing for the better, I think. People are no longer simply satisfied with just enjoying the Wrigley experience, or with playing along with the "lovable loser" ethos of Cubdom. Cubs fans want the team to win it all -- and they're much more vocal about it than they used to be. We are turning into Red Sox Nation, pre-2004.
Except that we're much more good-looking, of course. ;-)
by Gregory on Aug 8, 2005 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
i reread it ...
in my comment above, i was mostly criticising the editing, but here are a couple more thoughts:
what i find anti-chicago/cub fan is the way he implies that the criticism baker receives is undeserved. in the article baker is only "partly accountable." the real problems lie with bartman, sosa and racism.
i also think he implies a certain brutality in cubdom.
of course there are all kinds of cub fans because all kinds of people like the cubs. i don't know what kind is in the majority.
for me, i gravitate to sites like Al's because fans are passionate but polite. we disagree but we are not mean. and even now, we are for the most part if not optimistic, at least light-hearted. i also don't see myself as "demanding and desperate."
as an aside, i think those fans who are "not complacent" will go away if we have another couple losing seasons.
by kjk on Aug 8, 2005 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but ...
As for the stuff about Cubs fans and Chicago in general, I still think he was dead-on. And, like I said, I thought that it was necessary for Jenkins to say these things, because of his audience. He's writing for Bay Area sports fans (and Giants fans in general), and their way of looking at things is vastly different than it is here in Chicago.
I think that there is a "certain brutality" in Chicago. I'd use the word "passion" instead of "certain brutality", but it's really two sides of the same coin. Even here on Al's site, which I would argue seems to attract more of a genteel element of Cubs fandom than other sites (a lot of the commentary on other Cubs blogs has long since reached the pitchforks-and-torches stage with regard to Baker), the natives are restless and are not afraid to express it. Chicago is not a town given over to niceties when it comes to sports commentary -- and while the Cubs are a team whose fan base is laden with little old grandmas and small children, they aren't immune to administering a dose of vinegar in their opinions when the team is screwing up, either.
I don't think that you're correct about the "not complacent" fans going away, either. The people I'm seeing that're doing that on various Cubs blogs are making references to 1999, 1985, 1977, etc., and various and sundry other Cubs midseason collapses. These are obviously long-term Cubs fans disgusted with yet another example of the same-old, same-old with regard to a Cubs team fading in late summer.
by Gregory on Aug 8, 2005 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's neither:
The way I read the article, it's more an escape hatch for Dusty to use on his way out. In my reading, the writer is saying that Chicago is to blame for not accepting Baker and his fallibility.
I think I understand what you're saying about Chicago vs. San Fancisco, that SF has a more forgiving fan base. Never been there; can't comment on it. I do think Baker does deserve all the criticism he's getting in Chicago. (I'm one of those restless natives.)
As I said above, I think the article says that he is not deserving. And maybe I'm hypersensitive, but as a Chicago native and lifelong Cubs fan I find that the finger pointing is more towards the fans than the manager.
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Two sides of the same coin: I don't see Passion and Brutality that way. To me they are more like two tones on the same scale. For me, Yin and Yang, Love and Hate are two sides of the same coin.
I used the Passion and Brutality in my comment because I find Al's site passionate, but not brutal. Not extreme.
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vituperation. You rock Gregory. Thanks for the vocabulary lesson!
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Fans going away. Only time will tell ...
by kjk on Aug 8, 2005 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
One more thing:
by kjk on Aug 8, 2005 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't lump me in there.
Corey sucked from day one. Sure, eh had flashes and some stretches of even a few weeks that were good. Hell. August 04 was great.
Other than that?
Sucked. Always has above Low A Ball.
Don't say "all" 'casue that's just wrong.
Yeah, I know..
Note that I didn't write that he "would" become a star, only that we "hoped" so.
Clearly, any such hopes are long gone now.
Dusty Wants to be Loved
Dusty Baker would rather be liked by his players than win. He seeks not to offend, instead of to win. He must go.
Lofton
I also must wonder whether the alleged run-ins in the clubhouse between Sosa and Lofton had anything to do with Lofton's departure being accepted so easily.
I hadn't thought of...
That, too, was a wrongheaded decision.
If Neifi and Nomar
As far as it goes, I also think for next year the Cubs should sign Nomar to play 2B everyday, get rid of mental wetard Walker and it's time to see what Cedeno can do on an everyday basis at SS.
I would NEVER re-sign Nomar to play SS.
by SoBlueCal on Aug 7, 2005 12:18 AM CDT reply actions
Nomar...
It's not unreasonable to think that he might be convertible into a 2B next year, with Cedeno at SS (or even someone else, if they can make a deal for someone).
But I wouldn't do it now, not with Nomar coming off a serious injury. If you do this, let him have an entire spring training to work on it.
It's also a thought to put him in left field next year.
LF Might Be A Better Option
The Again
That's what we are ALL hoping for!
You know, today Mariotti had another one of his moronic columns (no, I won't even give him a link -- look it up yourself if you want) where he said:
Guess Mariotti didn't bother to look up Nomar's 2003 season, where he scored 120 runs, hit 28 HR, drove in 105, had 19 SB and an .869 OPS. That was only two years ago!
This was in terms of saying Nomar shouldn't be re-signed for "the type of money he'll be wanting".
Frankly, I think Nomar realizes he's had two years derailed by injury, and would be willing to sign for heavily incentive-laden money, to prove he's still the player he was. Sure, he may have lost most of his speed -- but I think he has integrity, unlike a certain Sun-Times columnist.
Agreed
I think...
I'd give him this:
$4 million base salary
Incentives (games played, at-bats) that would bring the deal up to $8 million if he plays a "normal" season -- i.e. about 140-150 games, 500-550 AB.
If he reaches those goals, you could vest an option year at $8-9 million for 2007, and then have a third option year with a buyout -- that protects the Cubs in case he sucks in 2007, but gives him essentially a three-year deal if he's good that year. He'll still be only 34.
What would likely happen if he plays well for 2006, is that Hendry would sign him to an extension.
So let's tell Hendry
The rest of the team?
Anyone else wanna jump in?
Nomar in 2003
NO NO NO
This stupid team has so many holes....
Lets see the kids....
and ofcouse, fire dusty baker.....PLEASE
by SoBlueCal on Aug 8, 2005 7:03 AM CDT reply actions
sO WHAT
So what.
think about it Al.
by SoBlueCal on Aug 8, 2005 7:09 AM CDT reply actions

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