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Open Thread And Five Questions, Cubs vs. Astros, Friday 9/23

I've done Five Questions with several fellow bloggers of opposing teams this year; this time it was Joshua from Crawfish Boxes who asked me to do this.

Since I didn't get his answers till early this morning, I'm going to combine the game thread with the five-questions thread.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Glendon Rusch
 G. Rusch
Cubs
vs. Wandy Rodriguez
 W. Rodriguez
Astros
7-8 W-L 10-8
4.59 ERA 5.43
103 SO 73
51 BB 50
12 HR 17

Here are my questions to Josh and his answers:

Q: What happened with Roger Clemens? Why couldn't the Astros score when he was pitching? Shouldn't he be about 18-2?

A: I think the question is leading the witness to a certain extent. The Astros have struggled to score runs for Clemens, but also for every other pitcher on the staff except Wandy Rodriguez.

Clemens should be 18 - 2 only if you figure that great pitchers like Chris Carpenter, Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder, and Jake Peavy aren't good enough to "deserve" the shutouts they've thrown while opposing Roger. It's kind of discriminatory to say that Clemens is the one who should have won a particular pitcher's duel--especially when he didn't. The four guys mentioned above will either win a Cy Young award, or have led their league in wins, or in ERA. And yeah, they beat Clemens in close games this year. If you're an ace--as Clemens definitely is--you're going to face the best, consistently.

Also, while guys like Carpenter and Mulder, and beyond those four, Willis, have pitched complete games, Roger--because he no longer throws them--has relied on the bullpen more than some other pitchers. I do not, however, understand why all three of Brad Lidge's blown saves have ruined games for Roger. Russ Springer--who has been very good this year, for the most part--has also blown a save for Rocket. So bad luck is certainly part of it.

And believe it or not, Clemens has also been outpitched at times. Greg Maddux, Brad Halsey, Chris Carpenter (in another start), and Tomo Ohka have all had games where they gave up some runs, but still pitched better than Roger.

Last thing is that recently, Clemens just has not been that good. I think it's his hamstring, but he has a 5.40 ERA in September, a period of time when Roy Oswalt, for example, has had less run support than Roger.

Q: What is the single most important reason the Astros are about to clinch the wild card?

A: The temptation is to say Morgan Ensberg, but the answer really is our starting pitching. Disregarding Ezequiel Astacio--who made some spot starts and filled in for Brandon Backe when he was hurt--Houston's starting pitching is 67 - 45. Which means, what? That our bullpen (plus Astacio) is 27 - 24. As of right now, no member of the starting rotation has a losing record, and they've all won ten games.

Even # 4 and # 5, which have been perceived as weak links from time to time, have pitched and won important games, repeatedly. Look at Brandon Backe Thursday. It appears as if he might finally have recaptured his command, and if so, he is a very dangerous # 4, with an outstanding curve and a 90+ fastball with tailing movement. Astros fans've been waiting for Brandon to pitch like he did at the end of last season all year. Maybe the wait is over?

And now that I think of it, let's give a little credit to Astacio. He got shelled more than a couple times, and is now 2 - 6, but the team was 6 - 8 in his starts, not bad for a number six guy. Beyond that, he gave the team some consistency, where it's not a revolving door at the end of the rotation. I believe that's gotta help the team outlook.

Q: Which team would you most like to face in the playoffs and why?

A: The Braves, 'cause they're weak right now, literally backing into the playoffs, as their vulnerable bullpen becomes more and more exposed. And my God, imagine if Andruw Jones gets hit on the hand with a pitch or something. . . . Plus the Stros've got some baggage that we'd like to unload on their asses. Last year was only a start, is what I'd like to believe.

Q: Which team would you LEAST like to face in the playoffs and why?

A: The Cardinals. Because they're the best team, and 'coz they've won 11 of 14 from us. Even the games we've won, like the minor classic September 2nd, it's been like the labors of Hercules just to get a freaking W. . . .

But I don't think anyone seriously doubts that at least 50% of the LCS, if not more, will be played in St. Louis.

I'm sure I don't speak for the players when I say this, but Albert Pujols in a clutch situation scares the s*** out of me. He beat the Astros in the thirteenth inning with a homer to deep center July 15, after going 0 for 4 over the first ten frames. He continuously does that kind of stuff to Houston, and has a 1.006 OPS over the last four years against the Astros.

And Jim Edmonds? The man gives an Astro fan nightmares. I'm sure you know about the catch he made in the LCS that may have cost us a trip to the Series; that kind of stuff is pretty much SOP for him. He has a higher OPS against Houston over the past four years than Pujols.

Q: Other than Clemens, Ensberg and Lidge, who is the Astros MVP this year?

A: Andy Pettitte. Although it looks like he might be tailing off lately, he was quite simply the NL's best pitcher in the second half. He's also been the league's best lefty. Clemens has had the problems dicussed; Lidge, while back atop his game, has been from time to time inconsistent. And Ensberg was slumping a bit before he got hurt. But Pettitte has been a rock since June 20th. Throw him out there, get the win. . . . .

And now, my answers to Josh's questions, which you can also find at Crawfish Boxes, his Astros blog:

Q: Carlos Zambrano: Ace of the 2005 Chicago Cubs, and beyond. True or False?

A: Absolutely true. While Mark Prior & Kerry Wood, the supposed aces from 2003 and who were going to lead us to the promised land, spent most of the last two years on the DL, Z has been the staff ace for the last two years, not missing a start, throwing what many of us consider an unconscionable number of pitches (he threw a 136-pitch complete game earlier this year), but he seems to have the stamina to handle this sort of workload.

I like Z's passion for the game, too -- he just has to learn to keep it under control. Sometimes it's hard to remember, considering that if Z wins his last two starts he'll have 50 career wins, that he turned 24 in June. Lots of guys 24 years old are still pitching in Double-A.

One of the things Jim Hendry has to do this off-season is sign Z to a long-term deal. The Cubs have the payroll room to do this.

Q: Fill in the blank, like they did in "Match Game 77," if you remember that:

If the Cubs could have just successfully (blanked) this year, they might have progressed to the playoffs.

A: "Match Game 77"? Hey, I'm old enough to remember the ORIGINAL "Match Game", hosted by Gene Rayburn. OK, so I watched with my grandparents. But anyway: What can fill in that blank? I could say a lot of things, but many of them are not printable in a family-oriented blog like this one. The best answer is "put together a better pitching staff". The staff didn't have anyone as good as Z, other than Z; there were too many injuries, too many guys (Mike Remlinger!) who just were no good, and the failure of management to install Ryan Dempster as closer till mid-May doomed eight games to blown saves prior to that event. LaTroy Hawkins, a good setup man, was forced into the closer role when he wasn't suited to it last year, and Dusty Baker pigheadedly stuck with him, not only blowing games but pretty much ruining Hawkins' career and forcing the trade (which could wind up really benefitting the Cubs, if Jerome Williams, who is also only 24 in December, can become the top-notch starter he appeared to be as a Giants prospect).

Q: As a fan of a team that has done very well against the St. Louis Cardinals, do you have any insight into what the Cubs may have had that caused the Cardinals problems? Beyond Derrek Lee, I mean.

A: The Cubs are likely going to finish within a couple of games of .500 either way -- they have to go 6-3 to finish .500, 7-2 to finish over. They are a CLASSIC .500 ballclub, which is to say they play up or down to the level of their opponent. The Cardinals are a good example; so are the Astros, for that matter; the Cubs have played 5-4 ball against them and played very well in Minute Maid Park. Speaking personally, I have seen five Cubs/Astros games at Minute Maid in the last two years -- the Cubs have won all five of them.

The opposite side of this coin is the Cub record against the Cincinnati Reds, a really poor team with a putrid pitching staff. The Cubs were 6-9 against them.

More evidence of this .500ness: the Cubs have scored 675 runs, and allowed 678.

Q: To the extent that 2005 can be considered a failure for the chicago Cubs, how would you assign blame (in %) among the following likely culprits:

25% Dusty Baker
50% Jim Hendry
15% Latroy Hawkins
10% Kerry Wood
0% Neifi Garciaparra

"Neifi Garciaparra"? That's a good one. Nomar's injury was a freak, and he's hit well since he returned. Neifi did a good job for a couple of months, but he is not an everyday player.

Q: This is free space, if you want it, to construct your argument for Derrek Lee, MVP:

A: Well, it's really simple: depends on what your definition of this award is. Many think it's a "Player Of The Year" award -- that's Lee, who is leading in so many offensive categories and has a chance to have 100 extra-base hits, which has been done only once in the NL since Stan Musial in 1948 (Sammy Sosa, 2001).

If it's value to your team, Lee could win it on that basis too, as let's say they had had to play Todd Hollandsworth at 1B all year. They'd have finished somewhere in the Pacific Coast League.

But they didn't win even with Lee. So, maybe it's Albert Pujols. But the Cardinals would have won the division anyway -- St. Louis won mostly with pitching. I love Derrek Lee and he has had a wonderful year. He may very well win the Hank Aaron Award, which is a tortured MLB creation to try to settle all the MVP arguments. It has failed. Much as I love the Cubs and Lee, the NL's MVP, in my humble opinion, is Andruw Jones, who has set a Braves franchise record for HR in a season (and remember, that's a 130-year-old franchise that has had two 500+ HR guys play there, Aaron and Eddie Mathews), and pretty much carried that club while their pitchers and hitters were all getting hurt.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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re: Hendry 50%
I don't think Hendry deserves 50% of the blame for the Cubs failures. I would say (the shop-worn excuse) that the Sammy Soap-opera has been much of Hendry's failures. Fiddling with Sammy's situation until the cupboards of free-agents were cleaned out can be placed at both of their feet.

However, Hendry did screw up by letting fan-favorite Matt Clement go. He's put in as good a year as any other Cub starter (currently 13-6, 4.65) and could've been kept around for pretty cheap. Hendry's saving grace is the fact that he usually has a golden touch with regards to trades. Dumping LaTroy for a serviceable #5 starter, or getting Murton as a throw-in on the Nomar deal. Hendry makes the "Great Train Robbery" folks look like rank amateurs at times.

So in conclusion, I would've given Hendry 40% with a note saying '20% belongs to Sammy Soso', and bumped Baker up to 35% (base clogging walks my ass; that's how we've been getting killed this year).

If the Cubs could get out of an inning by taking less than 3 pitches, they would.

by CherryPoppinCubbies on Sep 23, 2005 10:16 AM CDT   0 recs

RE: free agent class of 2005
It's not only the free agents, it's that the Sosa Soap Opera hamstrung Hendry even as to the possibility of trades, till it was too late.

I doubt that any of you would have liked the 2005 production of Carlos Beltran for the $119 million the Mets gave him; or the half-season that Magglio Ordonez missed, for the $75 million he got.

In retrospect, Hendry probably should have pushed harder to trade Sosa to the Mets for Cliff Floyd. Floyd's had a good year, he's not all that expensive, and the Burnitz signing could have been made anyway. And, if the team tanked even under those circumstances, I suspect Floyd could have been peddled to some other contender.

by Al on Sep 23, 2005 10:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

first thing
you don't do is tell your comeptitors your plan.  You can't tell the mets, one of your competitive suitors AND the tema you are trying to trade Sosa to, that one deal depends on the other.  I will never understand that part of the ordeal, pretty much deal-suicide as far as Beltran went, (And Thank God).  

by mike bornemann on Sep 23, 2005 10:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

in retrospect
It's not a bad thing that the Cubs didn't blow $120 million on Beltran, but at the time after the season he had, he was the top FA of the offseason. There is a very good possibility that his production will go up next year, but he's going to have to adjust to the bright lights, distractions, and media microscope of NYC- which is greater than he's seen in KC or Houston. Floyd would've been a good pick-up to replace Sammy's bat in the line-up, and with signing Burnitz (who's played as well as I expected of him) we wouldn't have had to platoon Dubois/Holly in left.

FWIW, though, Hairston has proven himself to be a solid utility back-up/bench player, and Novoa still can be effective out of the pen. Plus, we got rid of Sammy just in time. (Imagine the jeers this year if he had stayed). Enough of my Saturday afternoon quarterbacking, the season is closing and it's time to start looking to what we need to fix or who to get this off season.

PS- To continue an old topic of discussion, I think the rock-n-roll Matt Murton is Sufjan Stevens. He's an indie rocker from Holland, MI whose new album (Come on feel the) Illinoise is getting good reviews, and is poised to break-out by the end of the year.

If the Cubs could get out of an inning by taking less than 3 pitches, they would.

by CherryPoppinCubbies on Sep 23, 2005 11:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dumb
"Sosa Soap Opera hamstrung Hendry even as to the possibility of trades"

Yeah.  Because, you can't make trades until he's gone.

WHAT!?!?!?!?

The Cubs were on the hook for his money, regardless.  Saying they couldn't make deals until he was gone is an excuse floated to give an out one why the did not spend more money.

You are also saying that, had they kept him, they'd have done nothing.

Yeah, that would have gone over real well.

by Ivychat on Sep 23, 2005 3:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Loss of Clement
Had Clement stuck around and pitched roughly the same here as he's done there, which is no gaurantee, I don't think he would have made much of a difference on this team.  We'd be perhaps 2 or 3 games closer to the wild card, but thats about it.
  1.  Clement has stated that his game has improved dramtically because he doesn't have to hit and run the bases, saving his Aesthma and stamina for pitching.
  2.  His ERA isn't that good.  4.65 probably would translate to 4.10 in the NL.  With the Cubs crappy offense, he'd probably be .500.
  3.  The guys who replaced him, Dempster a few starts, Mitre a few (brilliant) starts, Rusch, Jerome Williams, haven't been that bad.  Probably a 4.50-5.00 ERA on average.  
So he wouldn't have made much of a difference.

by MikeJ on Sep 23, 2005 10:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you beat me to it.
i was going to say what you said in #2.  as much as i wanted him on the team, clement would have gone nowhere with the pathetic cub offense this year.

by kjk on Sep 23, 2005 11:02 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah
As a Cub, Matty always seemed to underachieve and pitch better than his record would indicate. Maybe he is an "AL Pitcher" after all.
If the Cubs could get out of an inning by taking less than 3 pitches, they would.

by CherryPoppinCubbies on Sep 23, 2005 11:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Underachieved
He's underachieved his whole career.  He'll have some great games for you, but he'll also walk the park sometimes.  His best year was 2003, but he's never approached all-star level.

by MikeJ on Sep 23, 2005 11:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jones for MVP
I don't understand why Andruw Jones is your choice for MVP.  Yes, he's had a number of big hits in clutch situations, but don't his ABs in the first 7 innings count for something?

Plus, you're passing on Pujols and Lee for opposite reasons.  Lee can't win because his team is too bad, and Pujols can't win because his team is too good.  So the secret to winning the MVP is having clutch hits on a winning team that has a small lead in a divisional race.  Is that Pujols fault?  Would Lee or Pujols get consideration for MVP if they were on the White Sox?  

I understand giving the MVP to someone on a winning team when the players are roughly even, but both Pujols and Lee have clearly outperformed Jones.  That's why I'd pick Pujols just slightly ahead of Lee.  (tough for a Cubs fan to say)

Finally, this caught my attention last week:

St. Louis Cardinals team leaders:
CAT BATTER AMT
BA  Albert Pujols .335
HR  Albert Pujols 39
RBI Albert Pujols 109
R   Albert Pujols 121
SB  Albert Pujols 16
OPS Albert Pujols 1.047

Atlanta Braves Team Leaders:
BA  Marcus Giles   .296
HR  Andruw Jones   50
RBI Andruw Jones   126
R   Marcus Giles   99
SB  Rafael Furcal  44
OPS Andruw Jones   .938

Its not even clear that Andruw Jones is the MVP on the Braves, let alone the league.

by MikeJ on Sep 23, 2005 10:23 AM CDT   0 recs

Being MVP...
... isn't only based on statistics, it is for me a perception of how a player has carried a team. Sure, Jones may not lead the Braves in batting average, but look at all the runs he drove in (a lot of them are likely driving in Giles, incidentally), and every time one of the Braves' starters went down, it was Jones who carried the team.

That's an MVP for me. Yes, Lee did the same thing for the Cubs. But the Braves are in the playoffs and the Cubs aren't.

by Al on Sep 23, 2005 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't that his point though?
Isn't the idea that a lot of the runs he drove in were Giles point to Giles being good rather than Jones?  

I would have to say the NL MVP is Pujols or Lee.  Jones has hit a lot of HR but I wouldn't say he hasn't been any more clutch late than Lee was early.  

As great a season as Derrek had I think if I had a vote it would be for Pujols.  He has had another great season.  It would also be somewhat of a recognition of being under the shadow of Bonds the last few years also.  

by JonH on Sep 23, 2005 12:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I of course...
would vote D-Lee he has been the best.  Without him the Cubs would be the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Pujols, in my opinion, has not carried this Cardinal team as much as it seems.  The thing that has saved the Cardinals is their pitching and their bench.  If Pujols had gone down, they probably could've replaced him with another good bench player, and their pitching still would've been enough because it so good.

The Braves have been carried by Jones a lot more than Pujols has carried the Cardinals.  Pujols has still been better than Jones.  I think Jones is getting a lot of his talk mostly because of his hot June and his homers.  However, the injuries were everywhere.  Jones could not have done all he has by himself, the rookies helped the braves too much.  So basically what I am trying to say is that Derrek Lee has carried the team by himself, because he didn't have the pitching, the rookies, the bench, or anyone to help him.  A-Ram was the one that helped him carry the team the most, and that didn't happen until late May.

Plus, I think D-Lee has also helped the Cubs defensively not just offensively.  I like to compare this to the Clemens vs. Carpenter in the Cy Young situation. Just because Clemens' team didn't give him enough support to get a W, doesn't mean he shouldn't win.  Just because D-Lee's team isn't going to the playoffs, he shouldn't win.  I also question this when I think about the MVP, if we plugged in Jones' or Pujols' performance instead of Lee's would one of those two have gotten us into the postseason?  I usually think no.  I really want Derrek to win.

Cubbie blue always sPaRkLeS in my eyes.

by sparkles721 on Sep 23, 2005 5:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What should've been an option in the 4th question
Injuries/depth of bench

I think that definitely can take some of the blame for the Cubs season. You might be able to argue that the lack of bench depth can be blamed on Hendry, but it's a fuzzy area. I'm sure Hendry wasn't trying to build a team on the assumption that he would lose Wood, Garciaparra and Ramirez for extended periods of time.

I also think Corey can take some blame. He hurt the team this year more often than he helped it.

by JD on Sep 23, 2005 11:53 AM CDT   0 recs

Braves have had a ton of injuries, too
As have the Cards (on offense anyways).  I'm sick of using injuries as an excuse.  Both the Cubs and Bears have been using "injuries" forever.

by MikeJ on Sep 23, 2005 12:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's why I included bench depth
Every team will suffer injuries, bench depth seems to determine how much it will affect the team. Losing Rolen hasn't seemed to slow down the Cardinals very much.

by JD on Sep 23, 2005 12:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Injuries/Depth of Bench is the Hendry option
Hendry could have addressed these.  Although my key would be inconsistent bullpen as the number 1 issue which is also related to players.  

The cubs could have withstood Patterson and had the rest of the team done better I think Patterson would have done better also.

by JonH on Sep 23, 2005 12:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lineups...
Willy Taveras, CF
Craig Biggio, 2B
Morgan Ensberg, 3B
Lance Berkman, 1B
Jason Lane, RF
Chris Burke, LF
Adam Everett, SS
Raul Chavez, C
Wandy Rodriguez, P

Neifi Perez, SS
Todd Walker, 2B
Derrek Lee, 1B
Nomar Garciaparra, 3B
Jeromy Burnitz, RF
Michael Barrett, C
Matt Murton, LF
Corey Patterson, CF
Glendon Rusch, P

by morpheus on Sep 23, 2005 1:38 PM CDT   0 recs

Neifi!
When is Dusty going to figure out that Neifi is not a leadoff hitter?

by morpheus on Sep 23, 2005 1:39 PM CDT   0 recs

sometime
in october, if at all.

by mike bornemann on Sep 23, 2005 1:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This sums it up
http://www.suntimes.com/output/cubs/cst-spt-dusty23.html

Although not enough mention of his love for worseless veterans (Macias, Wilson, etc)

by BringBackRyno on Sep 23, 2005 1:44 PM CDT   0 recs

No Mention Of...
  1. Rusch in the pen/Dempster in the rotation - a huge screwup
  2. KKKorey/Neifi batting 1-2 for months

by morpheus on Sep 23, 2005 1:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

go re-read the article
those points and those players are covered.

by socalbob on Sep 23, 2005 1:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sort of...

by morpheus on Sep 23, 2005 2:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

way to go Ryan!
He's so solid as a closer getting more comfortable all the time.

by socalbob on Sep 23, 2005 5:28 PM CDT   0 recs

To me..
and the Cubs team, he definitely has been a Mariano Rivera, especially with all the closer situations. He isn't lights out, but he has always meant a Cub win.  One thing the Yankees can't say about their closer, is that every time he comes in to get a save they win.  The Cubs have NEVER lost a game when Ryan Dempster has come in a save situation.  That is something that I hope continues because it is a great streak.
Cubbie blue always sPaRkLeS in my eyes.

by sparkles721 on Sep 23, 2005 5:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I hope it continues
about 65 straight times in '06.

by socalbob on Sep 23, 2005 5:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Uh-oh....
when I make predictions related to players...well it doesn't turn out so good. I hope you aren't the same way otherwise the Cubs are screwed!
Cubbie blue always sPaRkLeS in my eyes.

by sparkles721 on Sep 23, 2005 6:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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