2nd pick vs Soriano
I got to thinking.. If the Cubs really are interested in Alfonso Soriano the Washington Nationals will receive the 2nd pick in the draft for him. Is giving up the 2nd pick (They drafted Prior with the 2nd pick in 2001) really worth Soriano?
I know Soriano is a great player but we all believe that drafting is going to be a key to being a successfull ballclub and if the Cubs do sign Soriano they will forfeit their 2007 Amateur Draft pick.
Thoughts?
Btw the last two 2nd picks have been
1- Greg Reynolds a RHP (COL)
2005 - Alex Gordon (best prospect in baseball) (KC)
To me I would rather have Gordon than Soriano..
What does everyone else think?
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Nevermind
The Cubs would keep the pick even if they were to sign Soriano they would lose their 2nd round pick instead.. I apologize for this oversight.
by cubsfan2883 on Oct 11, 2006 7:55 PM CDT 0 recs
You can
by Josh77 on Oct 11, 2006 8:00 PM CDT 0 recs
the cubs have the third pick, not the second
I prefer we keep our early round picks next year
by Thelonious on Oct 11, 2006 8:13 PM CDT 0 recs
Good thing
by colossus on
Oct 11, 2006 8:16 PM CDT
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Wasn't scouting
by pageian on
Oct 11, 2006 8:23 PM CDT
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The Cubs have the 2nd pick
by cubsfan2883 on
Oct 11, 2006 8:20 PM CDT
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they sure don't
by Thelonious on
Oct 11, 2006 8:29 PM CDT
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Agreed
by pageian on
Oct 11, 2006 8:21 PM CDT
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Well, since we're on the topic
by pageian on Oct 11, 2006 8:18 PM CDT 0 recs
false
Trading away draft picks while we aren't competing is completely hendry-esque, and foolish.
by Thelonious on
Oct 11, 2006 8:32 PM CDT
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Well
I understand the building through the draft thing, but we need to be adding talent to this organization one way or the other. Adding a Soriano is a much safer bet than drafting a kid. Our greatest strenght is money and we need to start using it on the best free agents, not the second class types. The question is can we/will we add enough top free agents to make us cometetive, and if we don't think we'll be competetive then we shouldn't be spending $ and draft picks for free agents.
A good free agent signing is always worth a draft pick, unless maybe it's a top pick. I'd trade our first pick for Barry Zito and I'd be making the right decision.
by pageian on
Oct 11, 2006 8:57 PM CDT
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I should clarify
Here comes the Prior bashing..........
by pageian on
Oct 11, 2006 9:01 PM CDT
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Actually...
You were close enough, though.
I think people forget that giving up draft picks isn't really that big of a deal. The average first round draft pick has a 15-year career WARP of 14. That's less than 1 win above replacement per season over 15 years.
The baseball draft is such a crap shoot that if you can sign a guy like, say, Soriano, who will give you 7-8 WARP the next few seasons, you've surpassed the win above replacement total that your first round pick would have given you over 15 years.
The problem that teams like the Cubs have is that they're giving their first round draft picks up for freakin' middle relievers that they're signing. For crying out loud, these are about the only guys that you can sign that aren't worth giving up a first round draft pick for.
All that said, a team in the Cubs shape needs to be stockpiling draft picks so they can rebuild their farm system. The best things the Cubs can do this offseason is hand out no long-term contracts. Not even to Zambrano.
The other thing to consider is that draft pick compensation is more than likely done away with beginning this offseason. It's not official yet, but teams have reportedly already been told that it no longer exists.
by Maddog on
Oct 11, 2006 11:15 PM CDT
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There are usually
But, as you say, compensation appears gone with the new agreement.
by tharr on
Oct 12, 2006 4:01 AM CDT
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Definitely, tharr.
But never ever give up a 1st round pick for a middle reliever.
It does appear draft pick compensation will be over. I think that's good news.
by Maddog on
Oct 12, 2006 6:32 PM CDT
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I read that the Draft Pick compensation was
by TheBeerBaron on
Oct 13, 2006 3:21 PM CDT
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Can anyone inform me
by TheBeerBaron on
Oct 13, 2006 3:22 PM CDT
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One positive
by davidalanu on
Oct 12, 2006 6:30 AM CDT
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The Cubs
by pageian on
Oct 12, 2006 6:49 AM CDT
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I'm not sure that's a positive though.
Huseby was coming off injury. he's got potential, but the Cubs need to refrain from taking high-risk pitchers in the draft. I had hoped that would change with Wilken, but it didn't. Samardzija just wasn't that good at Notre Dame and the Cubs should have learned their lesson about ND pitchers considering they drafted Bobby Brownlie in the first round in 2002 and he's a HUGE bust. Samardzija will also likely choose football when given the chance to choose between taking the bus between unknown cities or taking private plains with some NFL team. it's a pretty easy decision actually. I figure that money is wasted.
Rundle was a good sign. It's nice to get a guy who is expected to go in the first 5 rounds in the 14th and actually sign him especially when the guy is a position player. This is what Baseball America had to say about Rundle...
by Maddog on
Oct 12, 2006 6:30 PM CDT
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Brownlie...
I think you're thinking of Grant Johnson.
by Al on
Oct 12, 2006 7:10 PM CDT
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Thanks, Al.
by Maddog on
Oct 12, 2006 10:30 PM CDT
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I'm hoping that Samardzija
Does that make me a horrible person?
Yes? Well, what else is new?
by colossus on
Oct 12, 2006 7:16 PM CDT
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I believe
by pageian on
Oct 12, 2006 6:51 AM CDT
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According
by Maddog on
Oct 12, 2006 6:19 PM CDT
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