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BCB Interview: Bruce Miles

Daily Herald sportswriter Bruce Miles has been, as you know, a visitor and friend to BCB, and recently agreed to answer some questions I put to him about the future of the Cubs.

Q: What is the legacy of Dusty Baker in Cubs history, in your view? Right now, his tenure is seen as a failure. Years from now, will that be seen differently?

A: I believe the Baker legacy will be one of great expectation followed by great disappointment. Until Game 6 of the 2003 NLCS, Baker could have been elected mayor of Chicago. After that, he'd have a hard time running for dog catcher. It's hard to believe so many things turned on one game, but that's what happened. Dusty, on balance, is a good manager. He needs the right mix of players, which he had in 2003.

Q: If you could choose ONLY ONE PLAYER to add as a free agent to the 2007 Cubs, what position would you choose and who would it be and why?

A: Barry Zito. The Cubs need a second dominant pitcher to go with Zambrano. Zito might be cost prohibitive. He'll also go from a large park with huge foul territory to Wrigley Field. They'll have to do a lot of homework on this one.

Q: To follow up on that, let's say the Cubs don't get Zito, or decide he's not a good fit. Who else would you prioritize acquiring?

A: If you can't get Zito, you get Alfonso Soriano and worry later about where he plays. The Cubs desperately need offense.

Q: Tell us what you know of John McDonough. Why WILL he make a good team president... and why WON'T he make a good team president?

A: John McDonough is one of the sharpest and most personable people I've ever been around. Actually, I can say the same thing about Andy MacPhail. John will be a good president because he's been in the organization for a long time and has had success running his area. The fact that he's not a "baseball guy" is overrated. If he doesn't succeed, it will be because the Tribune Co. doesn't give him all the resources he needs.

Q: What is your opinion of Joe Girardi as a man, and as a manager? Would he be your choice to succeed Baker? If not, who would you choose?

A: Joe Girardi is a solid man. From all appearances and from this distance, it appears he did a good job, perhaps a great job, of managing the Marlins. I'd choose him.

(Note: this interview was conducted before the apparent dismissal of Joe Torre by the Yankees. I'll let Bruce chime in here if he feels differently, but I suspect this, if it does in fact happen, wouldn't change his mind about Girardi.)

Q: What are the primary reasons, in your view, that the Cubs, a big-market franchise, have not been able to produce consistent winning teams?

A: Poor drafting and a flawed philosophy of player procurement at the big-league level. The Cubs did turn "prospects" such as Bobby Hill and Hee Seop Choi into gold, but they've failed to develop position players. On the big-league level, they need to pay attention to more scientific methods and start valuing stats such as on-base percentage and the effects of high pitch counts by their starting pitchers. I'm encouraged from what I've seen of Tim Wilken, the new scouting director.

Q: Kerry Wood. Does he return?

A: Yes, as a reliever.

Q: I agree with you, both that it should happen and that it WILL happen, So, presuming it DOES happen, is he immediately installed as closer? Or does he have to be a setup man first? And if he is the closer, what do you do with Ryan Dempster?

A: On Kerry Wood, you make him a setup man first and see if he's physically fit to be a closer. In other words, can he pitch three days in a row and four out of five? You begin with Dempster or Howry as your closer, depending on how Dempster looks in spring training. If Wood can become the closer, you look to trade Dempster.

Q: It's well known that the organization tends to value scouting reports and "toolsy" players and puts less stock in statistical analysis. Why do you think this is, and what could be done to show Jim Hendry & Co. that BOTH scouting and stat analysis are useful?

A: Jim Hendry comes from a coaching background in college, and his mentors in pro ball have been scouts or "scouts guys." I believe the tide is starting to turn, however, and that they'll achieve more of a balance in coming years, although it will be a gradual process. The Cubs have taken a pretty good beating from the stats community, and they know it. The mainstream media has been slower to embrace sabermetrics, but that's changing too. The Cubs still will rely heavily on their scouts for amateur drafting, as they feel too many stats become skewed at the high school and college level by things such as pitchers with poor control, teams pitching around good hitters and teams having less-than-average fielders.

As always, I thank Bruce for his time and insights.

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Bruce if your around
You said, "the tide is starting to turn and that'll achieve more of a balance (bewteen scouting and scientific evaluation) in coming years, although it will be a gradual process."

Why do you believe this to be true?  Have the Cubs hired anyone with the ability to establish the system to move towards the use of "sabermetrics"?  To me its kind of like "a leopard doesn't change its spots," barring the addition of A LOT of new blood I fear it's business as usual.  

Well, that is until the team is sold and ALL NEW BLOOD is brought in.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Something even Cubs can't ignore
This year's rankings in runs scored, on-base percentage and slugging percentage have opened some eyes in the organization. To what extent, we'll find out. They've known about sabermetrics for some time. They've just chosen not to value sabermetrics as much as they have scouting. Some new things will be on the table this fall during their meetings.

by Bruce Miles on Oct 8, 2006 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who is "they"
I look at the management organization and I see lots of Gary Hughes-types, not a lot of Voros Mckrackens.  I have zero confidence they'd even be capable, even if they wanted to, of moving towards statisical-scouting without a NUMBER of additions to the front office.  And those additions would HAVE to have equal of the ear of Hendry as Hughes and the rest of the dinosaur brigade.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great interview
Even if it is a gradual process, the Cubs really do need to learn that they HAVE to incorporate statistical measurements into their analysis.  It isn't to say that they get rid of scouting reports, etc., but they just can't simply ignore 'scientific evaluation' anymore.

by gravedigger on Oct 8, 2006 9:08 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not going to hold my breath
on getting Zito.

Maybe Soriano.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

For whatever it's worth...
the Cubs have done a good job of evaluating pitchers to bring in to their system.  Does anyone familiar with their organization have an explanation for their success with pitchers and their failure with position players?  (Friendly question, not a challenge.)  I don't know much about their farm system.  Is this just luck on the Cubs' part?  Do they focus more on collegiate pitchers v. high school? (Where there may be a better track record.)  I have read that they focus heavily on high school talent for theiur position players.

I can see why they may not embrace stats. if they focus heavily on high school talent.  But do the Cubs believe that it is important for a hitter to discern a ball from a strike and to be able show some plate discipline in this regard?  If they believe that this is important but don't have a way to reliably measure it from high school talent, do they have a system in place to drill it into their heads once they are drafted?

I think the Cubs, esepcilly Hendry, approach this from the attitude of:  "You haven't played and haven't been in the busieness so don't tell us how to do our jobs."

If that doesn't change then nothing will change.

by DudeVf1 on Oct 8, 2006 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

A friendly challenge
I do take your question as a friendly one. However, it's challenging, as well, and I mean that in a constructive sense. The Cubs since 1995 emphasized, for the most part, pitchers in the draft. Other than Patterson (and we all know that story), they passed up good position-player talent in favor of pitching. That's one reason the position-player cupboard has been bare. The Cubs took Jon Garland over Lance Berkman. When they needed catching, they took Luke Hagerty over Brian McCann. Guys like David Kelton and Jeff Goldbach simply washed out because they weren't good enough. They turned Choi and Hill into Lee and Ramirez, but the fact that no position player of impact from the sytem is playing with the Cubs (I exclude Boston product Murton) is troubling, and I don't have the answer. I don't think the Cubs do, either. We'll see how Tim Wilken did with Tyler Colvin this year.  

by Bruce Miles on Oct 8, 2006 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It seems Wilken
is already trying to impart his approach into the system. Ceda, Izturis and Negron are already here. He's got a history of building up the middle so Colvin isn't a shock.

If he can reproduce his results at Toronto, I'll be happy. Unfortunately, the true results won't be known for 5-6 years.

Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on Oct 8, 2006 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Torre fired?
Regarding that link,and if it happens as described, then that's one less interview for Hendry to conduct, what?  2 weeks or months from now?

Maybe when he gets around to filling the position there may be someone left worth interviewing?  Not a plug for hiring Pinella, but a plug for quickly hiring the manager that you feel is best for your club.

by DudeVf1 on Oct 8, 2006 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Thus one less candidate
The linked-to article suggests that if Torre is indeed canned, they Yankees will pick up Piniella.  That sounds like a win-win for us -- Piniella isn't right for the Cubs, and Girardi wouldn't put us off hoping for the Yankees vacancy.

by ChipSet on Oct 8, 2006 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Torre
If the rumor of Torre being fired is true, might Steinbrenner think about hiring Gerardi?  Why not?
I don't think Hendry should make this process a lengthly one or else we may be stuck with someone who may be a third or fourth choice.

by Saratoga on Oct 8, 2006 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

No
Because he wants Piniella.

In fact, the Cubs and Nationals interest in Piniella is probably one reason Torre will be canned.  Steinbrenner wants to get his man before he signs with another team.

by Josh Timmers on Oct 8, 2006 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good.
He's welcome to him. Sign him tomorrow!

by Al Yellon on Oct 8, 2006 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has anybody thought about this scenario-
Torre stays one more year at NYY. Lou P is named Cubs manager and does a good job in 2007. Torre quits and then the Yankees hire sweet Lou? If the Yankees is his dream job and Girardi thinks the Cubs is the best job, then who should be hired?

by LT on Oct 8, 2006 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interview
When is Girardi having the interview with Hendry???

by FLCubsFan on Oct 8, 2006 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Tomorrow
I believe.
"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing
that Hendry should forget is this "Hiring process", and him saying "hopefully end of October Cubs will have a new manager"
What are we waiting for, there is no other candidate is there? Joe Torre? Bob Brenly? Come on get this done, Hiring process!! Nationals are interested in Girardi, so Cubs lets drag this out for 4 weeks and screw Girardi around, and he goes to DC, what next.

Hire Joe.

Throw out your Gold Teeth and see how they Roll

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Oct 8, 2006 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe he's waiting for Ron Washington,
who knows. the problem trying to figure out Hendry is he doesnt act rationally, so it makes judging his motives by his actions difficult.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hendry acts about as rational as
a drug addicted hopped up on speed, X, and crack while robbing a liquor store.
"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

See...
... this is why you got banned in the first place. There is no call for this. I repeat again, there are plenty of reasons to criticize Jim Hendry's job performance. Comparing him to a drug addict is not only not true, it's slanderous. No more like this, please.

by Al Yellon on Oct 8, 2006 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry
I thought it was a good analogy.

mea culpa

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will tell you this right now...
...it seems like you're trying to make up for lost time with all these responses of yours.

Honestly, I don't know why you were allowed back if this is going to be the bulk of the kind of stuff you post.

hhhhiftqdaa

by theprognosticator on Oct 8, 2006 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is an honest question
how can you be banned, if your account is never deleted?

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point...
hhhhiftqdaa

by theprognosticator on Oct 8, 2006 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hi, I'm a dead horse
Keep beating me!
Poppppppppped it up...

by nextyearcub on Oct 9, 2006 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

bruce
thanks for the interview. i always enjoy reading your work.

do you have thoughts about why hendry was kept when the guy above and below him were fired/resigned/not renewed/other euphemism?

seems kind of strange to keep him, when so much of the team's failure had to do with roster construction. i've met him, and he seems to be very personable, so maybe that's part of it. also, i think a lot of of the problems with who hendry brought in were attributable to baker asking for him, so maybe that's part of it too.

just wondering if you had any other insights into this.

by tomas21 on Oct 8, 2006 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Follow the money
A two-year contract extension is a big part of it. McDonough also wants to hear Hendry out about his plans to improve this team quickly.

by Bruce Miles on Oct 8, 2006 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sure hope you're right...
... about those plans. Regardless of how bad this year was, it CAN be done... of course, that will also require McDonough to get his superiors to commit more money to the 2007 payroll. McDonough's a pretty good executive. He's done very well at his job. I actually think he might have a chance to do this. MacPhail didn't seem to care.

by Al Yellon on Oct 8, 2006 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

This time it's personal.
McDonough brings a passion to the position that Andy never evidenced. That and his excellent relationship with the Tower gives me hope for his success. I believe he will have a better opportunity to get the Trib to make changes in the Cubs organization.

He wants people who get it. That says to me we'll be getting good advice from many pedigreed Cub alumni. That can't help but improve our chances od success.

Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on Oct 8, 2006 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It baffles me
when the subject of money determines management's significant decisions. Torre has $7M remaining on his contract and Showalter has $4.5M. The $3M-$4M that Hendry probably has remaining is chump change considering the team's revenue over the next two years.

I can see John keeping Hendry around to transition his first year but that should have nothing to do with the money.

Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on Oct 8, 2006 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not the dollars tharr...
...it's the principle behind it. The Trib hates eating contracts.

I certainly don't agree, but in our dearly departed skipper's words, "it is what it is, dude."

hhhhiftqdaa

by theprognosticator on Oct 9, 2006 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am wondering why...
Hendry has been so slow in his search for a new manager. It seems as if Girardi is NOT his top choice. Who is he waiting for? I really think that this indecision could cost us more than good manager; it could cost us Aramis Ramirez. If we have no manager, how are we supposed to attract new players and/or keep the old ones? I think that ARam would stay for about $14-16 million over 4-5 years. However, if we are still searching for a manager by the end of the WS (and thus unable to concentrate on signing a SP and a Soriano) we could find ourselves with a Jamie Moyer instead of a Barry Zito and a Scott Moore instead of an Aramis Ramirez.

Act quickly Jimbo, get us a manager NOW!

Give Me Girardi or give me DEATH!!!!

by KChiCubs on Oct 8, 2006 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Al
and Bruce for the interview.

I too worry that we will wait to long and not gedt the right person for this job. I hope that Hendry knows what he is doing but that thought scares me to death.

Go Hawkeyes...Beat Indiana!!!

by sue369 on Oct 8, 2006 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I still shake my head...
... at those who say this is "too slow".

The job has been vacant for SIX DAYS!!!

by Al Yellon on Oct 8, 2006 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, but we could be
hiring new coaches now.  Maybe it's just bc I'm really young, but I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo impatient.

We could be signing A-Ram to an extension, he says he won't until the manager situation is resolved.  We could be working out a trade for A-Rod.  Don't you think A-Rod would want to know who his new manager would be before he agrees to a trade?

Are we even allowed to do trades right now?

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

A manager ...
... will have much to say about who the coaches will be.  And often even what players will be acquired.  You don't really believe Macias and Neifi were all Hendry's idea, do you?
August Moon / Oh! I got a boil on my leg! -- Jack Kerouac (American Haikus)

by kjk on Oct 8, 2006 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

My point exactly
Go ahead and hire Girardi so that we can start getting new coaches.  We need to know if Girardi can bring his pitching coach from Florida.  If not, we should see if the recent Red Sox cast aways would be to his liking.  Al makes it seem like there isn't shit for the new manager to do when there clearly is.

Plus, the A-Ram extension like I mentioned.  The sooner we get that done, the better.  Again, if we are allowed to trade now, working out a deal for A-Rod would be the best thing we could possibly do before the FA signing period begins.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aramis
can't even opt-out until November, and if Girardi really wants the job, it's his. Hendry simply wants to go through a process- interviewing other candidates and waiting until the end of the postseason. There is no need to get this done today or tomorrow or the next day.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Oct 8, 2006 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The sooner the better though...
The sooner it's done, the more it looks like Hendry has a plan rather than flailing about like he has the past two offseasons.
hhhhiftqdaa

by theprognosticator on Oct 8, 2006 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

More Time = More Risk
That is all.
"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, what's 98 years?
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 8, 2006 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Call me impatient
However to me this a bigger hire when the Cubs brought Dusty on board. I feel it is more important now then ever. I can just see the press conference with Joe wearing a "NATS" jersey.
Cubs need to get the staff in place, Kranitz might stay in Florida, if the Cubs drag there feet.

Enough already, HIRE JOE

Throw out your Gold Teeth and see how they Roll

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Oct 8, 2006 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still contend
that Girardi has already agreed to a contract. Kranitz has been offered a contract with the Marlins and said he was waiting for Girardi to decide where he's going, so it seems Joe is setting up his coaching staff.

I believe that when Pinella is formally announced as the Yankee skipper, the dominoes will fall into place. Baker to Washington, Brenly to SF and Joe back home.

Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on Oct 8, 2006 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure about...
... him having agreed to a deal, but I do agree with your "dominoes" -- except for Baker. I'm not so sure I see him managing next year at all.

by Al Yellon on Oct 8, 2006 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now THAT'S some Cub fan hope
let's hope your speculation turns out to be more or less true.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 8, 2006 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

sounds good to me...
Girardi and Kranitz, and Von Joshua for hitting coach.
hhhhiftqdaa

by theprognosticator on Oct 9, 2006 4:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about...
... Ron Jackson for hitting coach? The Red Sox just let him go -- right after David Ortiz called him "the best hitting coach I ever had".

Or bring Jeff Pentland back.

by Al Yellon on Oct 9, 2006 4:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

All good ideas...
hhhhiftqdaa

by theprognosticator on Oct 9, 2006 4:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Walt Hriniak?

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Oct 9, 2006 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer Kent Hrbek
hhhhiftqdaa

by theprognosticator on Oct 9, 2006 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that is my hope
but this year I also believe it's the pragmatic agenda for the Tribune. Anything less than a sense of urgency towards improving the organization could unleash an irrevocable backlash.

It's like the husband whose wife has just found lipstick on his collar. A $6.99 box of chocolates just ain't gonna get him off the couch.

Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on Oct 9, 2006 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

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