DeRosa vs. Kennedy

by LuisSalazar on Nov 29, 2006 9:48 AM CST Comment 32 comments

St. Louis signed Kennedy yesterday 3yr/$10mil

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2678901

Hmmmm... It seems that Kennedy was predictedd by many here and other sources a while back to possibly be coming to Chicago. Comparing the two, it sure seems like Kennedy would be a safer choice/more reliable choice here.

DeRosa:
2003: .263/.316/.699/6HR/1 SB
2004: .239/.293/.613/3HR/1 SB
2005: .243/.325/.764/8HR/1 SB
2006: .296/.357/.813/13HR/ 4 SB

Kennedy:
2002: .312/.345/.794/7HR/17 SB
2003: .269/.344/.743/13HR/22 SB
2004: .278/.351/.757/10HR/15 SB
2005: .300/.354/.724/2HR/19 SB
2006: .273/.334/.718/4HR/16 SB

Walks/K/Fielding percentage fairly close.

Kennedy's 30 / bats Left
DeRosa's 31 / bats Right

On paper it seems as though going after Kennedy would be a smarter, and more expected moveto make here. Cubs need a lefty hitter, he's quicker, established, and a little cheaper. Water under the bridge now, but did Hendry miss this one?

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Hmmm.

Your stats show Kennedy's OPS declining in EACH of the last four years.

They're not all that comparable because DeRosa was not a regular till 2006.

But it appears that Kennedy is on the decline.

by Al on Nov 29, 2006 9:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Oops.

It didn't decline from 2003-2004, but has declined since then.

by Al on Nov 29, 2006 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

while he has had some decline

and that certainly may be a concern, his stats are still very comparable and arguablly better- depending on the needs (speed, consistency)you are looking for. I don't know that much about either DeRosa or Kennedy (haven't seen either play much) but based on what the stats/speed/lefty/price, I wonder whether Kennedy would be a better choice here. Nothing against DeRosa, just hoping he's not a 31 yr old one year wonder who'll we'll be trying to peddle off in the next year or two.

by LuisSalazar on Nov 29, 2006 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I was ready to pencil Kennedy

into the lineup for 2007.....I couldn't be happier that I was wrong...

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by TheBeerBaron on Nov 29, 2006 9:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Kennedy and the Cardinals

Kennedy was signed to a reasonable deal by the Cards. He's a good second baseman and fits the mold of a veteran player that does well in St. Louis. Everybody laughed when Eckstein was signed to a three year deal two years ago. Guess nobody laughs at that one anymore. I'm not saying Kennedy is a star, but I bet he does a decent job for LaRussa.

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by BlueMike on Nov 29, 2006 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I still laugh at the Eckstein signing.

Mostly because of his throws across the diamond, which are sure to lightly bruise someone in the stands someday.

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by jcub on Nov 29, 2006 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ray Durham

Very curious that Ray Durham is still out there on the market. I wonder if Jim Hendry might consider Durham for an outfield role?!??!? Left handed bat, professional hitter, gets on base, drives in runs, still has good wheels.....

Hmmmm.....

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by BlueMike on Nov 29, 2006 9:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

he's play cf right?

i'd take him batting 2nd...

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by CubFaninCA on Nov 29, 2006 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nope.

Durham has played exactly one game in CF in his major league career, for a total of one inning. Forget it.

by Al on Nov 29, 2006 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

hmmmmm

could swear he played some cf one year..

oh well.

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by CubFaninCA on Nov 29, 2006 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Kennedy just became a much better player.

.320 BA, .390 ops, 15 homers in a St. Louis uniform.

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by CubFaninCA on Nov 29, 2006 9:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Worst hitter of all-time?

If he only ends up with a .390 ops, then he may go down as having the worst season of all time!

by ontheuptick on Nov 29, 2006 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

obp

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by CubFaninCA on Nov 29, 2006 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Where did those numbers come from?

Kennedy played only half a year in 1999 in St. Louis.

by Al on Nov 29, 2006 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

that's my prediction for 2007

Cardinal luck

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by CubFaninCA on Nov 29, 2006 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

O.P.P

yeah, you know me.

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by jcub on Nov 29, 2006 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Kennedy might have been a marginally better fit

But really, it's a choice between two hitters who aren't that special. Maybe DeRosa had something else going for him.

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by gjdow on Nov 29, 2006 9:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

better defense?

Grudzielanek Part II?

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by CubFaninCA on Nov 29, 2006 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

DeRosa vs. Kennedy

Lose-lose situation.

by VS on Nov 29, 2006 10:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bingo

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by Faith plus 1 on Nov 29, 2006 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

its second base...

sorry chase utley and ryan sandberg werent free agents this year, gosh. at least derosa can platoon in right with jones if we want, thats at least something kennedy can't offer.

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by kylejo on Nov 29, 2006 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Who is....

Ryan Sandberg? Is he a free agent?

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by krummy12 on Nov 29, 2006 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Could have got Walker for 500k

less. DeFence is irrelevant..

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by CubFaninCA on Nov 29, 2006 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

I just can't get excited over a mediocre player, regardless of position.

at least derosa can platoon in right with jones if we want, thats at least something kennedy can't offer.

True. But what are the chances the Cubs are smart enough to use DeRosa in a platoon?

by VS on Nov 29, 2006 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ha

probably not, and im with you, im not excited about derosa at all, but he seems fine and looks like he can play his role and is just a small piece...didnt the cards start last year with arron miles as their second baseman? as long as the guy knows how to take a walk and can play defense thats all i would ask out of my second baseman.

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by kylejo on Nov 29, 2006 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs