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The Top 100 Cubs Of All Time - #68 Shawon Dunston

There were plenty of Dunston images around, including baseball cards which I've used to illustrate other profiles. But this one seemed to me to capture Dunston's essence better than any other. This is a 1997 photo -- the baserunner, incidentally, is future Cub Gary Gaetti.

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Much like Mark Grace, Shawon Dunston had a career with the Cubs that neatly spanned the gap between the 1984 team remembered for the stellar play of Ryne Sandberg and the 1998 team dominated by the Sammy Sosa cult of personality. Of course, Sosa was already an everyday Cubs outfielder by the end of Ryno's career, but the long stretch between 1984 and 1998, with the sole high point of 1989, isn't memorable for much, and the memories of most casual Cubs fans (and even quite a few more rabid ones) tend to skip straight from one era to the other, without giving much thought to the years in between.

While the Cubs didn't have significant success during those years, they did generally keep Cubs fans coming to the ballpark. This was in no small part thanks to the efforts of Shawon Dunston. With his devoted following of fans, including one faithful guy who held up the "Shawon-O-Meter" (showing his rising and falling batting average) for several seasons in the bleachers, Dunston was one of the most visible pieces of a team whose losing ways could not keep them from captivating fans all over the country.

When he was drafted straight out of Thomas Jefferson High School in Brooklyn, New York in 1982 as the first overall pick (four picks ahead of Dwight Gooden), Shawon Donnell Dunston showed tremendous promise. He was drafted largely because he hit .790 his senior year, an absurd average that likely simply blew the scouts' minds. An incredible athlete with an absolute cannon for an arm, he was said to throw harder than any other baseball player, including all the pitchers. There were times, in fact, when it was suggested by some pundits that Dunston should try pitching due to his strong arm.

He was rushed through the minors and made his major-league debut on opening day 1985. At this point, he was not a competent fielder nor could he handle major league pitching, and he batted only .194 before being sent back down in mid-May. It was probably too much pressure for him to play as a starter, at age 22, for a defending division champion that was expected to repeat, though of course the Cubs failed to do so. Shawon was called back up in August, and he played better from that point on. Some people still cite Dunston as an example of how not to treat a talented and promising player making his way up through the minor leagues--the Cubs would later famously make the same mistake with Corey Patterson and will, hopefully, try to avoid making it with Felix Pie.

Dunston was far from a Hall of Fame-quality player, but he was extremely capable. He was an All-Star in both 1988 and 1990, and his performance in 1989 was instrumental in sending the Cubs to the NL Eastern Division title. As a batter, Dunston was slightly above-average (.269 career BA compared to a .268 adjusted league average). He was also a bit better than average at slugging (.416 career SLG compared to .411 league average).He was a fair bit worse than average in on-base percentage, though--he walked a respectable once every 29 at-bats, but he struck out once every 6 at-bats, and he racked up 1,000 strikeouts in his career. Despite his struggles getting on base, Cubs manager Jim Lefebvre placed Dunston in the lead-off spot in 1992--before he went down with a season-ending back injury, Dunston managed to hit .315, but he drew only 3 walks in 73 at-bats. While his batting was just average, Shawon Dunston was a good fielder. As a shortstop, his fielding percentage was above the league average for shortstops, and his range factor was significantly higher than the league average.

Shawon Dunston left Chicago after the 1995 season, departing as a free agent to the Giants, but he became a journeyman bench player, and he returned to the Cubs in 1997 before leaving again and playing for another four teams, mostly as an outfielder.

As a good-but-not-great player, Dunston was almost a personification of the late-1980's/early-1990's Cubs. He reflects what many fans still see as a mistake on the Cubs' management's part, the tendency to keep good players who were fan favorites rather than chasing better replacements. Still, as one of the last examples of good homegrown talent in a position player, Dunston may be a better example of some good habits the 21st-century Cubs have allowed to fall by the wayside.

Shawon Dunston's career stats at baseball-reference.com

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Nice writeup
My dad used to actually pronounce his name as it looks "Sha-won", and because I could never figure out if he was doing it intentionally or not, it always made me laugh.
PTBNL!

by gravedigger on Dec 13, 2006 9:51 AM CST   0 recs

Shawon-O-Meter rules!
Loved seeing that sign in the bleachers growing up. His wild throwing style I was not in love with however.
I very excite about this upcoming season! Jenqui!

by nextyearcub on Dec 13, 2006 9:58 AM CST   0 recs

Shawon-O-Meter
So when Felix Pie gets his shot, might he get a "Pie Chart" ?
speedskater

by speedskater on Dec 13, 2006 6:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Shawon-O-Meter...!!
In the mid to late 90's the "original" Shawon-O-Meter was on the wall of the Green Parrot on Whitehead street in Key West...does anyone know if it is still there?

by kcjones on Dec 13, 2006 10:04 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I wonder
Great photo of Shawon. I wonder where his throw ended up (best guess: visitor's dugout.)

(Just a little kidding around!)

Shawon was an exciting guy, a good person, and a great athlete. It reminds me of how sad it is that the 1989 team didn't advance to the WS.

RICK SCHWAB!

by ExNorthsider on Dec 13, 2006 10:18 AM CST   0 recs

wow
that picture is amazing. He's horizontal but still following the progress of the throw.

by Matt Allison on Dec 13, 2006 2:05 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

68?
disappointed....
TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 13, 2006 10:37 AM CST   0 recs

I was surprised
to see Shawon this early, too. Definitely thought he'd be in the top 50 at least. Maybe that's just my sentimentality, though. I started following the Cubs in 1985, and he was one of my first favorite players.

by Scott on Dec 13, 2006 10:43 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Agreed
I grew up watching him, and he was always a favorite, though I do remember my dad always saying, "Why don't pitchers throw three straight curveballs on the outside of the plate, he'll strike out every time."  I was disappointed when I checked his stats about a year ago, and found out that he was just an average player.  Still, I don't apologize for sentimentality, I think it makes Cubs fan special.

by TC Cubby on Dec 13, 2006 10:46 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

right
My brother and I used to say the same thing watching Shawon bat. A lot of pitchers did figure him out. He never learned how to hit a curve. He just couldn't lay off those pitches.

by danimal15 on Dec 13, 2006 12:23 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Actually, he got better . . .
"He never learned how to hit a curve. He just couldn't lay off those pitches."

Shawon actually could always hit curveballs within the strike zone fairly well.  His problem was that he kept swinging at curveballs that ended up low and away & well out of the strike zone.  (114 strikeouts in 1986 with a K rate of 18.6% per 100 plate appearances)

He started to learn how to lay off that pitch by 1991, just before his back surgery that kept him out for most of the '92 - '93 season.  (64 K's with strikeout rate of 11.96% in 1991) After that, he didn't have quite the same kind of physical gifts he had before.  In other words, just as he starts to put it together, he gets a career-altering injury.  I remember seeing his progress as a hitter, followed his injury and the regret for what might have been but for that.

by JoePepitone on Dec 19, 2006 11:55 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

2 things
Shawon was one of my favorite players in the 80's.  I remember going to Spring training in 1985 and seeing Shawon throw the ball extreamly high over the 1st basemans head (and into the stands) and the next morning reading in the paper that Frey has designated him the starter over Larry Bowa.  

Oh well...TO add to the pic that is on the article..here are a few that I took
http://ignarski.tripod.com/shawon1.html
http://ignarski.tripod.com/shawon2.html

Kasey

 

by kaseyi on Dec 13, 2006 10:59 AM CST   0 recs

bodies
Nice photos.

Man, the players used to be so much thinner and less pumped-up. Even guys like Dawson, Dale Murphy and Mike Schmidt looked like normal human beings.

I hate steroids.

RICK SCHWAB!

by ExNorthsider on Dec 13, 2006 11:02 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

oh and I forgot to add...
The Shawon-o-meter is now in the hands of the Smithsonian Museum of American History.  It was on display when I went there in the 90's, but it is no longer on display. (I didn't see it when I was there a few years later and wrote them to ask if they still had it, they said they did, but it was in storage)

kasey

by kaseyi on Dec 13, 2006 11:05 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I have a photo of me
at 15 or 16 holding it.

:)

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 13, 2006 11:54 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Players back then
Yes - it is quite a contrast looking at players 15 years ago and now - obviously players are a lot more muscular today. I wonder if we'll see players shrink now that steroid use is much more closely monitored and heavily penalized.

by danimal15 on Dec 13, 2006 12:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Doubt it...
Personally, I don't think so. I never did steroids (at most creatine and protein) and when I was 19 I was a 240-lb linebacker w/ 9% body fat. Had a 4.8 40, 33inch vertical. I know that's nothing special, but I wasn't as an athlete.

Anyway, I'm sure there are hundreds of football players out there who have never done steroids who are bigger. I think it's sports nutrition and baseball just took a LONG time to catch up.

I think the days of the 6'3" 195 OF/1B is gone forever. Someone 6'1" dedicating himself to working out (and keeping his 'flexibility') can easily reach 210 pounds with artificial enhancement. Just saying.

Skeptical of improvement. I'm waiting for a winner in 2010.

by tyger1147 on Dec 13, 2006 11:46 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Shawon-O-Meter
Do you remember when?  I could swear it was in the Green Parrrot saloon in about 95 or 96 ish....perhaps there was more than 1???

by kcjones on Dec 13, 2006 10:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

There were more than 1
The Smithsonian had it on display in about 93  IIRC.  I went back there in 99 and the baseball display was not there anymore and thats when I wrote them about it and they told me it was in storage.  I have also heard the guy who made up the SHawon-o-Meter had 2 of them....1 to show before Shawon hit and another which a friend was there ready to make the change for the result of the at bat so the 2 were swapped back and forth during the game.

by kaseyi on Dec 14, 2006 9:22 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Seems a little early, but.........
that breaking ball on the outside corner probably resulted in that.

One thing about Dunston that I always admired was his hustle- can't ever remember him not busting his ass to first on a ground ball. He ought to be working with the current crop (this means you, ARam).

by tommy veryzer on Dec 13, 2006 11:17 AM CST   0 recs

I agree
He always tried his hardest, and hustled harder than anyone else on the team

by danimal15 on Dec 13, 2006 12:25 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

When I was..............
..........living in SoCal in the early 90's, I always caught the Cubbie road trips to Chavez and the Murph.

In 1991 at Dodgers Stadium, Shawon went from first to third on an infield out.  My seats were just a few rows behind the Dodgers dugout, and to watch him come up hugging the 3B bag to the umpire's cry of "SAFE!" was totally awesome.

He certainly was a guy who left it all between the lines.  Never remember him not giving his all.

It's too bad he donned a Shitbird uni for a few years.  Nonetheless he'll go into the Hall wearing a Cubs cap.

by tville on Dec 14, 2006 10:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Dunston...
... played only one year in St. Louis, 2000. Got into the NLCS with them.

And then got into the World Series in 2002 with the Giants.

by Al on Dec 14, 2006 10:50 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Not to be petty.............
...........Al, but he split time in 1999 between the Cards and the Mets.

by tville on Dec 14, 2006 12:19 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Whoops!
You're right. I must have had the "Hide Partial Years" link clicked.

by Al on Dec 14, 2006 1:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Not really too early
Several people have commented on Shawon's placing on the list.  I have to agree that he fits around here.  His attitude and hustle made him a fan favorite but his numbers place him here.  There are still a lot of older players to go including the '08 era players like Evers, Chance, Brown and Reulbach plus the 30's/40's era like Hartnett, Warneke, Root, Cavaretta and Hack.

I've had a few minor disagreements with the order but other than Stephenson, nothing too significant so far.      

by rlpete on Dec 13, 2006 11:43 AM CST   0 recs

Dunston-Ryno-Grace
that was a pretty good infield there too bad they could never put it all together for sustained period.
  What's the reason mainly? Never enough pitching?

Farm produced 2 of these 3 plus some decent (if not long lasting) OF and Maddux, etc., back then..McFail's biggest failing was not have a productive system aside from an occasional flash from Wood, Prior, Z...

Their record on everyday players about as bad as anyone hoping that new scouting director Wilkins will turn it around quick...

McPhail acknowledged this failing on his exit but said emphasis had been on pitching and they used some everyday "chips'' like Choi and Bobby Hill to acquire quality plaeyrs like D Lee and Ramirez.

by writerinwrigley on Dec 13, 2006 11:46 AM CST   0 recs

A Class Act
When I was 11 years old in 1986 most of my friends were White Sox fans.  They used to constantly argue with me that the young White Sox SS (Ozzie Guillen) was better than the young Cubs SS (Dunston).

I ended up writing a letter to Shawon telling him that he was my favorite player and that he would be a much better SS than Ozzie Guillen.  

Not only did he send me a short note back but he also included 4 different signed baseball cards and a signed Wrigley Field postcard.  He will always be my favorite Cub.  A complete class act.

by amisaid on Dec 13, 2006 11:51 AM CST   0 recs

Wow
That's a great story, thanks for sharing.  He always seemed like a good guy, but that just confirms it.
PTBNL!

by gravedigger on Dec 13, 2006 12:10 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Shawon's fielding
Although Shawon did make a number of highlight reel plays throughout his career, let's remember that his arm was anything but accurate and didn't improve much over the years. I'll bet Mark Grace saved him from a multitude of throwing errors.

by danimal15 on Dec 13, 2006 12:26 PM CST   0 recs

#1
Shawon is my #1 favorite Cub of all time. 1989 my family and I were in Cincy at a Cubs game and Reds fans were barking out E5, E5 all game to Dunston. E5  is the way to score 'error, 3rd baseman' in a scorebook. At the end of the game, Dunston was entering the dugout and he yelled to the Cincy fans that were buggin him "I don't play thirdbase a*shole." I love that guy.

by drodd on Dec 13, 2006 12:30 PM CST   0 recs

back in high school
My friend and I would go to Astros games just about every weekend they were in town during the summer. This is when you could get a GA seat for about $4 in the Astrodome, so it was a cheap way to spend a weekend night. Anyhow, in honor of Rafael Ramierez, a pretty horrible SS, we'd always park in section E6.

by Scott on Dec 13, 2006 12:41 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

ROTFLMAO!
Post of the day!

by Al on Dec 13, 2006 2:00 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Funny
Rafael Ramirez had the distinction of having the worst error rating I ever saw on a Strat-O-matic baseball card. I think he was an E-48 in one of his mid-1980's cards. (Zero being the best).

by danimal15 on Dec 13, 2006 2:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Jerome Williams...
Non-Tendered by the A's. What a great talent.

I believe well-liked by "various styles" although I may be wrong.

However, we ended up getting Neal Cotts, Dave Aardsma and Williams essentially for La Troy Hawkins.

Maybe something of value will still come out of this.

Its too bad, I was hoping Jerome Williams was going to really make a push. He's still pretty young - but the odds are not too good now.

Beat Iowa in all sports. Go Northwestern!

by TheEman on Dec 13, 2006 2:09 PM CST   0 recs

Well...
... Hendry COULD sign Williams to a minor league deal with a spring training invite, getting him back for nothing.

by Al on Dec 13, 2006 2:14 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Why?
He sucked.  And still sucks.  Kevin Foster redo.  No thanks.  
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I READ YOUR BOOK !!!

by BlueMike on Dec 13, 2006 5:56 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Reply

I believe well-liked by "various styles" although I may be wrong.

Yes. And?

by VS on Dec 13, 2006 2:55 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

And..
Its obvious he's not been wanted by his last three teams.

Which might mean...?

Beat Iowa in all sports. Go Northwestern!

by TheEman on Dec 13, 2006 7:15 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Is there a good reason..............
...........why you're mucking up the tribute to Shawon with discussions of that whale Jerome Williams?  Have you no respect for the Mr. Dunston?

Please, let's keep this thread on course.

by tville on Dec 14, 2006 10:22 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I love Retrosheet!
I've been able to identify the game from which the photo at the top of this post was taken.

It was on July 11, 1997. The play in question occurred in the fourth inning; see the following PBP:

CARDINALS 4TH: Gaetti singled to left; Mabry struck out; Clayton grounded into a double play (second to shortstop to first) [Gaetti out at second]; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Cardinals 0, Cubs 3.

The Cubs won the game 7-1; Dunston, in fact, hit a two-run HR in the first inning off Matt Morris.

by Al on Dec 13, 2006 2:13 PM CST   0 recs

Good research on 1997 game
That was a horrid season for the Cubs, however. Remember their 0-14 start, and the disastrous performance by Mel Rojas as closer? Then I think Sosa, who was the one player having a good season, got hurt at the end of August and didn't play again that year, and Ryne Sandberg announced his second and final retirement.

Still, it was the end of an era - the last year of the Dunston to Sandberg to Grace DP combination that had been extant (off and on) since 1988.

by danimal15 on Dec 13, 2006 2:20 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Sosa...
... got hurt in 1996, not 1997. He was hit by a pitch in the first inning on August 20, 1996, stayed in the game till the 4th, then left and did not play again that year -- and he was on pace for a 50+ HR season, having hit 40 in 124 games.

In 1997 Sosa played in all 162 games.

by Al on Dec 13, 2006 2:23 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Great Memories of Shawon
I remember watching the Shawon in the field. His throw was so long, sometimes I thought he was going reach all the way over to first base with even needing to throw it. I know in terms of baseball, he was nothing too special but, he was the kind of guy you could be a fan of and still look yourself in the mirror. He was indicative of alot of the Cub players of that era. Andre Dawson, Rick Sutcliffe, Sandberg, Grace... I would settle for that again.
Kyle

by Kyle Turney on Dec 13, 2006 3:45 PM CST   0 recs

Shawon
When he was first drafted, there were typical Cub organization visions of greatness.  Dunston turned out to be merely an OK ballplayer.  All the athleticism in the world, but he couldn't hit a breaking ball to save his life.  

I will forever remember Harry Caray's combination fondness / exasperation with Shawon.  "Swinging on 3 and O, boy o' boy."  "Popppppppppppped it up, boy o' boy."  "He missed that curveball by a mile, boy o' boy."  

Dunston's highest and best use as a major leaguer came at the end of his career, when he became a super-utility man of sorts.  But too bad he was more about unfulfilled promise.  

Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I READ YOUR BOOK !!!

by BlueMike on Dec 13, 2006 5:54 PM CST   0 recs

Shawon
did guest gigs coaching the baselines during spring training the last couple of year.  He looks great in Cub uni number 12, as if he could still play today.  A far cry from the ex ballplayers who let themselves get fat.  

Shawon always gave his all on the field.  That's why the fans loved him.

by Clark Addison on Dec 13, 2006 7:04 PM CST   0 recs

Shawon
I, too, was hoping he wouldn't show up on the list so soon, but the stats probably have him about right.  This man hustled on the baseball field 100% of the time.  Whether it was trying to stretch a single into a double, chasing a foul pop or running out a grounder right back to the pitcher, he always gave his all.  One of my all-time favorite Cubs.  

by cubboy89 on Dec 13, 2006 8:08 PM CST   0 recs

Amen to that!!
Shawon lacked skill in important areas, but will forever has my respect for the passion and hustle he played the game with. Some people see it as unfulfilled potential, but hitting a curveball is just another skill like throwing a ball through a brick wall. Shawon could do one but not the other :-)
Things could be worse. Suppose your errors were counted and published every day, like those of a baseball player. ~Author Unknown

by Rotodaddy on Dec 13, 2006 8:32 PM CST   0 recs

Should have been better.
If only he didn't get hurt, that bad back really put a dent in his ability at short. It's also too bad he wasn't more receptive to moving to the outfield earlier in his career after the back problems. The Cubs sure could have used hin the outfield in lieu of some of the doomed to never succeed carosel of left and center fielders we had to put up with.

He should have been better considering his draft position, but at least he wasn't Ty Griffin.
That canon arm and Grace saving all those errors. The best thing I've ever read about Shawon is from one of Bob Logan's books on the Cubs where he recounts how early in Dunston's Cub career, Grace and Sandberg would make Shawon run foul line to foul line catching pop ups they easily could have gotten. Good Stuff.

by cubby23 on Dec 14, 2006 3:50 AM CST   0 recs

His back
I thought the timing of his injury was sad because his best season was the year before that in 1991.

He and Ryno put up some great O numbers as a DP combination for a couple of years.

He, Ryno and Grace pulled off some sweet DPs as a trio.

Happy Holidays goodwill to all. Santa please remember the Cubs come next fall.

by kerrysotherwife on Dec 14, 2006 5:36 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Coaching
I heard both Baker and Ozzie wanted him as a coach a few years ago.  He played for Dusty in san Francisco and he and Ozzie have always been good friends.  I'll never forget the crosstown classic in 1991 when they were imitating each other in the late innings.

But he didn't want to go into a full time baseball job until his kids are grown.

Happy Holidays goodwill to all. Santa please remember the Cubs come next fall.

by kerrysotherwife on Dec 14, 2006 5:38 PM CST   0 recs

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