The Top 100 Cubs Of All Time - #59 Carlos Zambrano

This photo was chosen from among four selections I sent to sparkles721, BCB's #1 Z fan. I felt she should be the one to choose his best pose to use as part of this profile -- and this captures him perfectly, I think.
Well he went down to dinner in his Sunday best
Excitable boy, they all said
And he rubbed the pot roast all over his chest
Excitable boy, they all said
Well he's just an excitable boy...
-- Warren Zevon, "Excitable Boy"
Rubbing pot roast on his chest is about the only thing the very, very excitable Carlos Zambrano hasn't done on the pitcher's mound.
I'm exaggerating here, of course. Z's excitable nature, his histrionics on the mound, his clear passion for playing baseball, are all things that make him the exciting player to watch, the guy we all love, the pitcher who's already, at age 25, a dominant force in the major leagues.
Carlos was born June 1, 1981 in Puerto Cabello, Venezuela. Look at that birth date and realize that there are players born on or around that time who are still toiling away in the minor leagues, having not made any impact in major league baseball, or perhaps not even having played a single game in the majors. For an excellent example of this, you need go no further than the Cubs' own 40-man roster, where you will find the name of Clay Rapada, recently added; many people, including many of you, think Rapada has talent (and I'd agree), and might someday become a good major league reliever.
Rapada was born March 9, 1981 -- he is three months older than Z, and has never thrown a major league pitch.
In fact, when Z made his major league debut, starting the second game of a doubleheader against the Brewers on August 20, 2001, he was the first player in the major leagues to have been born in the 1980's; he was only a couple of months past his 20th birthday. That debut was, as was Kerry Wood's, less than auspicious; he gave up four hits and four walks in four innings, including a three-run homer to Kevin Brown (this Kevin Brown, not the pitcher), and Don Baylor mercifully pulled him after he allowed a single, walk, stolen base and wild pitch to start the fifth inning.
I had seen Z throw in spring training that year and had some spirited debates on the old Cubs Usenet newsgroup (which some of you might remember) about whether Z might be better suited to relief pitching. In fact, had he taken that track, he might well have become an elite closer. He certainly has the stuff and the mound presence and the right approach to be one.
But I think we're all glad that he didn't, and that he was quickly able to harness his considerable talent as a starting pitcher. By the middle of the 2002 season, a lost year for the Cubs, Z was in the starting rotation to stay, and gained confidence as the season went on, finishing with only a 4-8 record, but a respectable 3.66 ERA.
Z, along with the rest of the Cubs, burst onto the national scene in 2003; at age 22 he went 13-11 for the Central Division champions, with 168 strikeouts and a 3.11 ERA. His hitting prowess began to get noticed as well; on July 25, his two-run homer in Houston off his future teammate Wade Miller tied up a game that the Cubs eventually won 5-3. During the postseason, we began to see some of the emotions that Z has become noted for; in game five of the NLCS, the Cubs' first shot at winning that series, Z seemed overwrought and had to be yanked after struggling through five innings, though it's doubtful anyone could have matched Josh Beckett's two-hitter that day.
In the last three seasons Z has established himself as one of the top starting pitchers in the major leagues, winning sixteen, fourteen and sixteen games, and being durable as well (throwing 209, 223 and 214 innings), although he has chronic back problems that require careful monitoring, and during the 2005 season he briefly had a minor elbow problem supposedly caused by too much time spent on the computer emailing his brother in Venezuela. We can laugh at this now because it turned out to be nothing serious.
Z has continued contributing with his bat, too; his six home runs in 2006 tied the club record for home runs by a pitcher (Ferguson Jenkins, 1971), and is the second-most hit by any pitcher in a season since 1955 (Earl Wilson, Mike Hampton and Don Drysdale all hit seven in a season).
I think all of us love the passion Z brings to the mound every start, not to mention his considerable talent. If he can channel that emotion into his pitching and not let it get the best of him, there's no telling the greatness to which he can ascend. The Cubs are likely to try to sign him to a long-term contract extension before the 2007 season begins, and I'm all for that. If he matches his 2006 strikeout total of 210 in 2007, he'll move up to tenth on the all-time Cub list, one behind Bob Rush. He could, if he stays with the Cubs and continues to put up the sort of numbers he already has over several more seasons, wind up as the greatest pitcher in club history. Now that would be worth showing some emotion about!
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Nice job
by danimal15 on Dec 22, 2006 9:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The bat over the knee...
What stuck out the most in my mind was how casual it was... like it was no big deal. Wow.
by cwyers on Dec 22, 2006 9:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed that one too
by danimal15 on Dec 22, 2006 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great profile
My fave Z moment: Jawing with Ozzie Guillen during the interleague games. Ozzie may intimidate his players, but he doesn't look so tough when Z is staring him down.
by dat cubfan daver on Dec 22, 2006 10:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Drysdale?
by Ihatethecards on Dec 22, 2006 10:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he puts slots
by TheEman on Dec 22, 2006 6:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Drysdale
The first time, 1958, the Dodger team leaders had a more respectible 22 although he still led the team in slugging.
by frustratedfan on Dec 22, 2006 10:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
One Criticism
Hopefully we'll have the opportunity soon to see Carlos pitch in a post season in Cubs uniform again.
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 22, 2006 10:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know.
by sparkles721 on Dec 22, 2006 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
by danimal15 on Dec 22, 2006 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This quote...
That's the same thing we hear all too often in this game. Zambrano may have made a great closer as you say, Al, but why on earth would you move a 20 year old into that role with his physical features and athleticness?
Anymore, everybody wants to find the elite closer and groom them for that role immediately. The great closers in this game were not groomed for that role. They were, as every other reliever, a failed starting pitcher. Some of them failed because they simply didn't have the stamina to throw 6 innings on a consistent basis and some of them failed because they didn't throw enough pitches to face an order the 2nd and 3rd times through. Almost all of them, in one way, shape or form, have been failed starting pitchers though.
Pitchers get moved into relief because they either don't have the stamina or they lack the number of pitches necessary to get by. Carlos lacked neither of those.
Moving Carlos Zambrano into relief at that age would have been one of the worst decisions by a baseball franchise in history...without even having the benefit of hindsight on my side that would be true. I saw Carlos pitch that same spring training you did and thankfully the Cubs left him in the rotation. This guy had star written all over him by the time he was 18 or 19.
by Maddog on Dec 22, 2006 10:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Now...
No, I said that "had he taken that track" -- i.e. gone to the bullpen first as a setup man -- he might have eventually become an elite closer.
Please read what I write more carefully and don't imply I said something that I really didn't. Thanks.
by Al on Dec 22, 2006 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Further...
by Al on Dec 22, 2006 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and no.
Zambrano's only weakness was his control, which still is a problem, but he misses so many bats that you can live with the control. He's a big, athletic, power pitcher.
I'm sure at some point in the minors people considered moving Roy Oswalt into the bullpen to be a reliever with his size and build, but he ultimately showed the talent that he needed to remain in the rotation despite being undersized.
It's easier to be a reliever than a starting pitcher. You can take a starting pitcher and expect to see an improvement in their numbers in relief because it is easier. 99% of the closers in this game have been guys who were failed starting pitchers. It seems silly to me to try and find the 1% by grooming a guy to do what you will eventually randomly find.
by Maddog on Dec 22, 2006 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
While most of what you said is correct
by rlpete on Dec 22, 2006 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good example.
by Maddog on Dec 22, 2006 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
by rlpete on Dec 22, 2006 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My apologies.
by Maddog on Dec 22, 2006 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Understood.
by Al on Dec 22, 2006 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
by Maddog on Dec 22, 2006 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
By the time...
by Al on Dec 22, 2006 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ZAMBRANO!!!
by LilLPLancer23 on Dec 22, 2006 10:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i think Z sould have been higher
by tbizzle83 on Dec 22, 2006 11:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Prior
Don't get me wrong: I think Mark Prior is great. If he ever puts his injuries behind him and starts pitching regularly again, he could eventually make his way onto a list like this. Let's just hope that's the case.
by danimal15 on Dec 22, 2006 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The StL game where he hit Edmonds
Pinella should love this guy. No way Cubs let him go since Prior-Wood have been such busts the last 2-3 years.
It's amazing how fortunes have changed...this is it for Wood-Prior don't think they'll hang with them another year if they don't produce. Where will they rank here? Prior probably not at all; Wood around 40 I'm guessing despite last three years.
by writerinwrigley on Dec 22, 2006 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wood was a few days ago
by Perkins on Dec 22, 2006 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wood's ranked lower
Derrek Lee has already been on here. Is that it for the current roster? I would have thought 3.5 years of Aramis would be > Lee's 2.2 years, even given his monster '05, but could Al be skipping him?
by JohnM on Dec 22, 2006 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd think Aramis should be up there
by Perkins on Dec 22, 2006 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aramis
by danimal15 on Dec 22, 2006 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez will be coming
by rlpete on Dec 22, 2006 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
by frustratedfan on Dec 22, 2006 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
top infielders next on the list instead of ramirez
by sjcubfan on Dec 22, 2006 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Z
by mrcubsfan on Dec 22, 2006 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano...
I think this past season did a lot for Z's confidence; with the best of the staff down, he pretty much HAD to step up and assume the role of ace. I think with this past season behind him, he's only going to get better.
I think he also started getting a little bit hungry for that Cy Young award towards the end of the year...
by raalic17 on Dec 22, 2006 11:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
no-hitter
by danimal15 on Dec 22, 2006 12:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Two words:
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Dec 22, 2006 12:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
all the "emotion"
by sjcubfan on Dec 22, 2006 2:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
by sparkles721 on Dec 22, 2006 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
80s babies
Nick Neuberger
Carlos Hernandez
C.C. Sabathia
Felipe Lopez
Cesar Izturis
by dvdmgsr on Dec 22, 2006 2:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A few words on Z
by Perkins on Dec 22, 2006 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
From BCB's #1 Z fan:
by sparkles721 on Dec 22, 2006 4:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
What I was thinking in reading this bio was how far up the rankings Zambrano could go before his career is done. If he signs a 5-year extension before next season, and then one more deal after that with the Cubs, I believe he could be in the top ten Cubs of all time when he retires. I'm waiting to see who is in that category on Al's list now. But, yes, this means I think Z has a great shot at the Hall of Fame and multiple Cy Young awards.
by zambranofan on Dec 22, 2006 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Closer mentality...
It's none of them.
It's reaction to a negative. When Dempster walks someone, does he come back and get a strikeout/groundout? Or does he walk or give a hit?
The one and only "personality trait" I think you could project to the closer's role, is how a player reacts to a bad pitch/inning/performance.
It's ridiculous to say Zambrano had a closer's mentality because he was intense and emotional. The "closer mentality" is not something that can be detected in Spring Training-not definitively.
by tyger1147 on Dec 22, 2006 7:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I never even saw....
by Al on Dec 22, 2006 9:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Face of the Team
Chicago Cubs
2007 World Series Champions
by lilkimmer77 on Dec 22, 2006 10:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Z
Even the Sox announcers this season talked about Zs bat. In fact Hawk was talking about him hitting and wham homerun.
by kerrysotherwife on Dec 23, 2006 1:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is about where I thought he'd be
by Scott on Dec 23, 2006 12:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
As I wrote...
Let's hope so.
by Al on Dec 23, 2006 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thankful
I think if he remains a Cub, and his arm stays strong...he has a shot at the top 25 all-time Cubs. I just hope they can re-sign him.
by cubby23 on Dec 25, 2006 6:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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