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BCB College Diary

Where did/do/will you go to school?

Since nobody else is posting this diary, I will!  It seems as though we at BCB are a pretty educated bunch (if I don't say so myself).  Since we are growing into quite a cohesive community, it would be interesting to know where everyone went to school.  It would also be interesting to see the diaspora of Cubs fans in colleges across the country.  If you want to participate, feel free to list where you went to school, are going to school, or will/want to go to school.  If you want to list anything else (major, degree, any other related details) feel free.

I'll start.
Undergrad - University of Hawaii at Hilo, BA Political Science (grad 2006)
Grad - Syracuse University, MA Political Science, Public Policy (est. grad 2007)

Update [2006-12-4 19:17:48 by gravedigger]: Thanks to Julie for reminding me that we also want to know about those who didn't go to college. How did you end up doing what you are doing? Anyone else?

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of SB Nation or Al Yellon, managing editor (unless it's a FanPost posted by Al). FanPost opinions are valued expressions of opinion by passionate and knowledgeable baseball fans.

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Thank you!
Someone had to do this.

Undergrad: Moraine Valley Community College (AAS)
Grad: University of Chicago Illinois, Psychology, Secondary Education (BA)

TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 4, 2006 5:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Chris
You're at U of C? You've been holding out on us, you're a smartypants!
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL d'oh
University of Illinois Chicago
TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 4, 2006 6:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha
Still a smartypants.

:)

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 6:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And...
... just who is the smartypants in this part of the thread?

;)

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 6:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You never
cease to amaze Jules, thank you.
TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 5, 2006 1:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, I'm game.
I think many of you know this already from reading things I've written, but I am a 1978 graduate of Colgate University (political science), and have a M.A. in radio/TV/film from Northwestern (1980).

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 5:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I had no idea...
...that you were a political science major!  How'd you end up in TV?
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 5:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just one of those things, I guess...
... went to Colgate for the education, found myself being drawn to the media biz.

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 5:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I dated a Colgate...
...alumnae when I was in grad school.  Man, talk about someone who's passionate about his/her undergraduate institution!!!!!

....and here I was thinking that the Notre Dame psychos were bad!!!

by Santos L Halper on Dec 4, 2006 5:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!
But yes, indeed we are.

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 6:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Colgate
Colgate is one of the most beautiful campus/college town combos I've seen. Tough to go (back) to the midwest after living in upstate NY!
"She believes what doesn't kill her/ Only takes more time to kill her" -- Joe Pernice (Pernice Brothers)

by ExNorthsider on Dec 4, 2006 6:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too...
University of Nebraska at Omaha - Philosophy major (minors in Poli Sci and History)
(with stops at the Air Force Academy and the University of Nebraska-Lincoln (Huskers-not a fan))
Graduating next August
Looking to go to either UIC or the New School in NYC for graduate work in poli sci
I want Jason Schmidt, Josh Johnson and Manny Ramirez!!!

by tyger1147 on Dec 4, 2006 5:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I feel...
...strangely satisfied that this blog is full of Political Science majors.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 5:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I am almost embarrassed....
Bachelor's of Fine Arts - 2D Design/Drawing - Northern Illinois University (2005)
Check out my daily baseball blog at MLB-threeSIXTYfive

by TheBeerBaron on Dec 4, 2006 5:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind...
although I studied art at Northern, I still consider myself rather intelligent..... ;)
Check out my daily baseball blog at MLB-threeSIXTYfive

by TheBeerBaron on Dec 4, 2006 5:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am the only one on BCB that
went to NIU?????

Whatever......the Huskies are going bowling!!! Watch out TCU!!!!

Check out my daily baseball blog at MLB-threeSIXTYfive

by TheBeerBaron on Dec 4, 2006 10:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Huskies rule
...I got my Bachelor's in Computer Science at NIU, too.

by MikeJ on Dec 6, 2006 9:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too...
University of Rhode Island - BA in Journalism with a minor in beer drinking...1995!
First DeRosa. Next DeSosa!

by bergs55 on Dec 4, 2006 5:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll play...
I have a B.A. in Government/Political Science and a B.S. in Computer Science from The University of Notre Dame.

(Yes.  That one.  If you have any negative comments or derision about my Alma Mater and its football team, kindly stick them up your you-know-what.  Thanks.)

I also have both my JD and my MBA from The University of Denver.

by Santos L Halper on Dec 4, 2006 5:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Years...
Forgot to include my graduation years...

Undergraduate: 1997
Graduate: 2001

by Santos L Halper on Dec 4, 2006 5:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

College of Charleston
BS in Business Administration with a concentration in Finance
MTV used to be music television. ESPN used to be a sports network.

by akcubfan on Dec 4, 2006 5:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll chip in....
Undergrad: Buena Vista University, Storm Lake, IA - Major: Management Information Systems

Grad: (Currently attending) - DePaul U, Chicago, IL - Major: Information Technology

by Neifi Puppy on Dec 4, 2006 5:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Woot!
Go DePaul! I'm from a big DePaul family.
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 5:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bite
Georgetown University School of Foreign Service, class of 2008-International History.
ROTHSCHILD!

by Perkins on Dec 4, 2006 5:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

same
but Class of '09 and majoring in International Economics with a concentration in Finance and Commerce.
MURTON!!!

by tal1286 on Dec 4, 2006 7:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HOYA SAXA!
Georgetown University B.S. Biology 91
Northwestern University Med School 95

by TORCO on Dec 5, 2006 7:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Schools
Undergrad: University of Wisconsin - Madison, BA with a major in political science
Grad: National Louis University - MAT in secondary education (just completed the certificate program, five more classes to finish the masters...anyone have a job for me?)

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 4, 2006 5:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

My mom
went to National-Louis. Any interest in teaching underprivileged kids? She could probably get you a job.
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 5:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...
... I'm actually considering posting an application with Chicago Public Schools.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 4, 2006 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When
did you graduate from UW dml?

by Schwa on Dec 4, 2006 6:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

UW
Graduated in 1998. Got to see the Badgers clinch a trip to the Rose Bowl in my last football game as a student. For the last two years I've been a football season ticket holder and have seen a handful of hockey games, including the championship in Milwaukee last spring.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 4, 2006 6:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One of my high school friends
played on the Rose Bowl team there. I grew up 45 minutes from Madison. It's a great place.
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 6:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BUCKY!!
Long live the Badger.  Graduated 2005 from THE University of Wisconsin.  
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Dec 4, 2006 8:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Schools
Undergrad: Texas A&M University, B.A. in Psychology, 1997
Grad:
Hardin-Simmons University, M.A. in Marriage and Family Therapy, 1999

Texas Woman's University, Ph.D. in Family Therapy, ABD and hoping to graduate in Fall of '07

by Scott on Dec 4, 2006 5:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why not
Claremont McKenna College (go Stags!) - BA Economics/International Relations 2001

Northwestern School of Education and Social Policy - Masters expected 2008

MURTON!!! - just trying to help his karma so we keep him.

by 26.2cubfan on Dec 4, 2006 5:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm in
Undergrad: Indiana University (Go Big Red!) Class of '95. Majors: Jouralism/French. Minor: Psychology

I also spent time at the Sorbonne/Universite de Bourgogne while in undergrad

Law School: DePaul University College of Law (take that, Kansas!)

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 5:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sorbonne
I did two years of Law at La Sorbonne before realizing that I most certainly did not want to become a lawyer. The American legal system on the other hand I find more appealing, to work in that is.
GREAT SUCCESS!!!

by Chitown Mojo on Dec 4, 2006 5:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?
I warn every undergrad I know not to become a lawyer. You have to love confrontation and thrive on mashochism. I actually think I'd prefer working in France.

Ah well.

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 5:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lone star
B.S. in Business Administration - HEC Paris, France.
GREAT SUCCESS!!!

by Chitown Mojo on Dec 4, 2006 5:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why not?
Undergrad:  Carnegie Mellon University B.S. in Economics and B.S in Political Science (expected 2009)
"Winning is the greatest marketing idea of all time." --Cubs President John McDonough

by cubbieblue on Dec 4, 2006 5:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Me:
Undergrad: Simpson College, B.A. in biology, minored in history.

Pharmacy School: University of MN, PharmD expected in 2008

Despite being in Gopher country, I will forever be a Hawkeye girl at heart!

by bleedhawkeyegold on Dec 4, 2006 5:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good to see....
Someone who went to school in cyclone country favor the hawkeyes. There are a bunch of us in the Chicago area that still proclaim our allegiance to the black and gold.

by Neifi Puppy on Dec 4, 2006 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When did
you graduate from Simpson? My son and daughter-in-law both graduated from there. In fact they just moved back to Indianola.
COTTS!!!

by sue369 on Dec 4, 2006 6:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Simpson
I graduated in 2004.  

by bleedhawkeyegold on Dec 4, 2006 6:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not indeed
Northwestern University, BS in Economics.  I thought about getting a Masters in Economics until I walked into a classroom for Graduate study.  The formula went around the entire classroom.  That ended any desire I had for a Masters in Econ.

Federer

It's like deja`vu all over again ....

by tigerperson on Dec 4, 2006 5:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Graduate level economics...
...is fascinating.  I'll never understand it, but it is fascinating.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 5:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
however, it's phd or bust with grad students

by dholl on Dec 4, 2006 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like this one...
Undergrad: University of Wisconsin-Madison (expected graduation 2008 or 2009... it's just so nice here why would anyone ever leave?)
Major: Finance, Investment, Banking

Enjoying the golden age of Wisconsin Athletics, one game at a time.

by Schwa on Dec 4, 2006 5:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

BADGERS!!
Undergraduate:  THE University of Wisconsin-Madison, 2005, B.S. in Child Development

Graduate: Minnesota State University, Mankato, 2007, M.S. in Education with Special Education Learning Disabilities Teaching Licensure

Where do you live in Madison??  I lived in Sellery, a fraternity for a year, then La Ciel.  Ahhh, good times.  

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Dec 4, 2006 8:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sellery Hall
I lived there for four years...two of 'em as a House Fellow.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 4, 2006 9:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I lived
at 420 W. Gorham last year (across the street from La Ciel).  I live on Langdon this year.  Which frat were you in if you don't mind me asking?

by Schwa on Dec 5, 2006 1:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Badger as Well
Class of '09 Finance, Investment, and Banking

lived in Sellery freshman year, 3A

by miltowncubbie on Dec 5, 2006 12:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Currently
Junior at University of Illinois (Champaign-Urbana).
Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 4, 2006 5:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

do u live
in champaign or urbana?

by circuitclout on Dec 4, 2006 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

champaign
Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 4, 2006 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet
I lived on the corner of 4th and Healy in my JR and SR years at UIUC.

I hope you're enjoying school. Nice place.

"She believes what doesn't kill her/ Only takes more time to kill her" -- Joe Pernice (Pernice Brothers)

by ExNorthsider on Dec 4, 2006 6:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

House
The house we lived in had 10 bedrooms, 2 kitchens and 3 bathrooms. I believe that every single square inch was a disgusting mess. That's my recollection. When my parents visited me on occasion, my mom refused to use our bathroom, preferring to walk to the Union and take her chances there. I couldn't really blame her.
"She believes what doesn't kill her/ Only takes more time to kill her" -- Joe Pernice (Pernice Brothers)

by ExNorthsider on Dec 4, 2006 7:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i miss
champaign.  well, mostly i miss burgers and beer at murphys.  and bonnie jeans pizza.  and the illini inn.  and rampant, random drunkenness.

by circuitclout on Dec 4, 2006 7:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's no longer Bonnie Jean's
It now goes by "Second Story Pizza"

by cronoj on Dec 5, 2006 10:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure
BA History Cal Poly San Luis Obispo
MA Educational Administration Cal State Fullerton
D-LEE!

by airweino on Dec 4, 2006 5:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to hear
from those who didn't go to college, too. What did you do after high school? How did you wind up in your field?
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 5:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps
I should add that to the main diary text?
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 6:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well...
i have two bachelor's degrees:

saint xavier university, marketing, 2000
&
university of illinois @ urbana-champaign, urban and regional planning, 2005

by circuitclout on Dec 4, 2006 5:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lol that's crazy
I live right down the street from Xav's.
TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 4, 2006 6:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ah
another south side cubs fan.  i grew up in beverly.

by circuitclout on Dec 4, 2006 6:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mt. Greenwood
Man it's hard ain't it?
TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 5, 2006 1:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ive learned
to live with it.  
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -- Mark Twain

by circuitclout on Dec 5, 2006 11:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No jokes...
Transylvania University in Lexington, Kentucky

BA, English Lit, 2000

May eventually look to get further education in writing or film, but for now, happy to be done with school.

(I have likely made it very easy for anyone to figure out who I am, too, in that there were very few male English majors in that graduating class.)

BIG NAME PITCHER!! This sig is from the future, but didn't hear the specifics.

by HanOfTheBluegrass on Dec 4, 2006 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Correction:
Graduated in 2004 (still say 2000 sometimes because of that whole 'Class of 2000' thing in high school.
BIG NAME PITCHER!! This sig is from the future, but didn't hear the specifics.

by HanOfTheBluegrass on Dec 4, 2006 6:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't
go to college. I worked after I graduated from high school. I met my husband and had three children. He has always had very good jobs and I could stay home with our children. Now I get to help our children by taking care of their children.
COTTS!!!

by sue369 on Dec 4, 2006 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

How old
are your grandkids, sue?
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 4, 2006 6:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you're lucky sue
i wish our parents lived closer.
DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Dec 4, 2006 6:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I do consider myself
lucky that I get to spend so much time with our grandchildren.

Our granchildren are as follows:

Baillie - girl, 15 years old
Bryton - boy, 10 1/2 years old
Anneka - girl, 6 1/2 years old
Gavin - boy, 4 1/2 years old
Taryn - girl, 4 years old

And a baby that is due the last part of March. Probably will be our last. :(

COTTS!!!

by sue369 on Dec 4, 2006 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

mine...
Northwest Missouri State University, graduating in May, God willing.   Biology degree

by kiel on Dec 4, 2006 6:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

my history
1997, bachelor of science (biological chemistry) from University of Chicago
2005, Ph.D., Dept. of Biochemistry and Cell Biology from Rice University (Houston, TX) (I actually defended in 2004, but they only give degrees in May)

by false cognate on Dec 4, 2006 6:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

what
was your thesis about, if you don't mind sharing? and what false cognates does your moniker refer to?
DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Dec 4, 2006 6:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

my favorite false cognate
embarazado

I told my spanish class that I was pregnant about 3 times in the span of a minute during a speech when I was a sophomore in high school.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 4, 2006 6:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My thesis,
in broad strokes, was an analysis of genes in Arabidopsis thaliana (a plant) that undergo a change in expression when the plant is touched. Yes, plants can sense mechanical stimulus.

"false cognate" actually refers to my DJ crew and my website; it came up during a random evening at the bar with a friend and it stuck. It seemed appropriate at the time, although I don't know why. It has very little to do with the actual concept of false cognates in language studies, and more to do with the idea of us being fake friends, as we were throwing lots of parties for complete strangers at the time.

by false cognate on Dec 5, 2006 2:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

here's mine
BA Northern Michigan University - Elementary Education - 2000
MA Central Michigan University - School Principalship - FINISHED LAST SATURDAY WOOHOO!!!

by tcjhawk on Dec 4, 2006 6:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The "TC"
isn't for Traverse City, is it?  I just wondered, with the CMU connection.  

Oh, by the way, BA Biology, Cedarville University (Ohio), 2000, JD, Indiana University, 2004.

And I disagree, Julie, you don't have to love confrontation to be a lawyer.  Though I don't doubt that you have to love confrontation to be a Chicago lawyer.

by TC Cubby on Dec 5, 2006 7:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TC
Traverse City is where I grew up.  I'm now a teacher out in Kinglsey - but Traverse City will always be my hometown.  

by tcjhawk on Dec 5, 2006 12:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I moved to TC a
few years ago, and I'm loving it

by TC Cubby on Dec 5, 2006 3:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Right now its...
...a great area for snow.  I'm hoping for a snowday tomorrow!!!

by tcjhawk on Dec 5, 2006 4:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

After a stint in the Army (later ARNG)
as a combat medic [Brooke Army Medical Center]

worked toward a B.A. in Historical Studies at Covenant College - pulled out for the first war in Iraq (spending my 20th birthday in a foxhole near Basra was very educational).

Never finished that degree (15 credits remaining) and instead wandered around the southern states for a year to 'regroup' and then started a software firm in 1996.

Off season trading is one of my favorite sports.

by stelmodad on Dec 4, 2006 6:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Mine...
Bethel College (KS) to play basketball.
Transferred to Emporia State University (KS) and will graduate next year with an English Degree, with minors in both Journalism and Business.

Not positive where I'll be heading to Law School, but Kansas University is the leading candidate.

One interesting note: I'll be studying abroad in Italy this summer.

DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 4, 2006 6:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa
Thats too weird-- Im from Hesston which is right next to Newton, AND i was at Emporia my freshman year and still have two of my best friends down there whats your name?

fwiw
BA- Anthropology graduating in 3 more semesters
and i'll be in Argentina this summer doing some FW

"Its not like we need 10-12 players to contend"

by ksucubbie on Dec 4, 2006 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Small World
Yeah, Hesston is a whopping 8 minute drive from Bethel's campus. And we played their Juco a couple of times.

And I have a ton of friends at K-State, and was VERY close to heading there right off the bat.

I don't know if this is Internet Responsible Behavior, but my name is Micah Thurman.

Hesston...i'm familiar with the Schwartzendrubers (sp?), but they moved in there fairly recently. The kid went to school there, and the Dad is the coach at the Juco.
I know people from Halstead, which I believe was in your league and everything.

For Everyone College Aged (Or Not):

Anybody who has Facebook can feel free to add me. I don't know if that's caught on everywhere, but it's pretty out of control here.

DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 4, 2006 6:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And...
I lived in Manhattan for 10 years and still hold season tickets for the football games.
DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 4, 2006 6:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking to do a study abroad in spain
I'm minoring in spanish.
Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 4, 2006 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Spain is awesome...
Went there for awhile about 2 years ago.

And I would be studying abroad for the entire semester this spring in Austrailia, but my slut of a sister decided to get married and stick her wedding smack dab in the middle of my semester. And I use the term slut affectionately. Sort of.

DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 4, 2006 6:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping...
... your sister doesn't read BCB.

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 6:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha...
I really do use that term in a good-natured manner. We're extremely tight...but I suppose tone and things of that nature are hard to decipher on a Blog.
DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 4, 2006 6:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.
Hey, just for grins, why not tell her you mentioned her upcoming wedding here, and show her the post?

Then tell us what the result is. Fun!

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 6:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha...
I might have to. She's a HUGE Cub fan as well, and I'm going to have to get her on here. I don't know if there's ever been a brother/sister combo on BCB.

But she's pretty time consumed and technologically deficient, so I don't know if she'll go for it.

TheKansasian'sSluttySister does have a nice ring to it...

DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 4, 2006 6:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course there's a sister/brother combo!
Chris(Faith plus 1) is my brother. :)
"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Dec 4, 2006 6:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh...
well you learn something new everyday I suppose. I'd really be interested in seeing you two feud excessively on BCB, and consequently resorting to name calling and bringing up embarassing childhood stories.

If my sister got on here and said something like "Izturis might be an all-star sometime soon, and should be penciled into the Cubs' extended future," then I would promptly tell everyone she wet the bed until the tender age of 12 (which isn't true, but it's just an example).

DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 4, 2006 7:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!
This is all too funny.

I feel compelled to point out that Faith and Sparkles aren't really brother & sister. He's just protective of her that way.

Kansasian, please get your sister to join BCB ASAP!

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 7:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I could go along....
with the lie, but you have met my whole family so I can't trick you.

Chris gets to be called my big brother because he's cool. :)

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Dec 4, 2006 7:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Guillible
I thought he really was your big brother.
PAGAN!

by Jesse Guam on Dec 4, 2006 9:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

spain is great
I spent a few months there living with a couple buddies. One of my best friends is Spanish (I met him when we were like 7, and he's been here since he was 3,  but is still a Spanish citizen), so we lived at his family's place en el norte de españa, and then took trips to Ibiza, and some time in Barcelona.

I also spent a few weeks there with the family when I was a teenager. We did Madrid, Toledo, Grenada, Sevilla, and Barcelona on that trip.

I'm looking to take a hedonistic trip through europe  this summer. I've been all over, but mostly with my family, so I've clearly missed a lot.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 4, 2006 6:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Similar experience...
my friend (military family) was raised for 15 years near Cadiz. They kept their house, which they now rent, and we were able to have a great place right on the beach for a few weeks. The actual city is Puerto de Santa Maria...we flew into Sevilla and out of Madrid (also touring Toledo).

And I'm staying in Europe after my Italian term ends to tour a few more spots in Europe.

DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 4, 2006 7:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Spain Program
I studied abroad this past summer in Sevilla (in Andalusia). It was one of the best experiences of my life.  I went through UW Platteville - they have an awesome program that runs in the summer.

by cubs4ever on Dec 5, 2006 12:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow..
Am I the only one still in highschool? haha

I will hopefully be attending University of Chicago Illinois...

by Patblue on Dec 4, 2006 6:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nope.
I'm a senior.  I hope to go to Boston University.  I think.

This diary is making me feel old.  I can't believe I'm almost going to college.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Dec 4, 2006 6:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the best advice I can give you
is to use light beer in your beer bong.
Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 4, 2006 7:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the advice.
Any other suggestions? :)

I can't see myself having to worry about that though.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Dec 4, 2006 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely not
Beer is gross.  Stick with tequila or rum.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 7:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well then
you're just drinking the wrong beer. Lots of good beers out there for any taste.

Good tequila is ok; something like the silver Patron, or the Antigua Cruz anejo, but good bourbon is better.

by false cognate on Dec 5, 2006 1:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha
listen to gravedigger. Tequila and rum.

In all seriousness though, I would recommend that you don't join a sorority. If you really want to, I say go for it, but I think you have a more complete college experience if you get a house/apartment with close friends.

Also, if BC or wherever you go is anything like U of I, try to avoid eating the university food as much as possible. It causes bad times in so many different ways.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 4, 2006 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thelonious,
have you ever been IN a sorority? Then let those with relevent experience counsel sparkles.

I was in a sorority, and while the greek system was only 10% of the student population at IU, it's a big deal when you're under 21 and can't get into the bars. Rushing was tough--3500 girls rushing for 900 spots. And there were a lot of tears and heartbreak, both before and after I got in. But it was an experience I wouldn't trade for anything.

I'm not advocating that you rush, but at least look into it. For me, it was a way to make a big school much smaller.

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 12:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I loved
being in my house, I rushed late (at Maryland you need 12 credits to pledge, so formal rush in the spring, and I waited til I was a sophmore) a lot of people were really surprised when I joined

ours is about 10% also, so most of my friends were not in a house, in fact I spent way more time with architecture people than Greeks, but I had a great time with it, and wouldn't have changed it for a second

SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 1:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Greek
I was also in a sorority and highly recommend it.  My campus was 30% greek.  What houses were you guys in?  I am a KKG.

by bleedhawkeyegold on Dec 5, 2006 5:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I have been in a sorority
a few times actually. I always make sure to sneak out in the morning
Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 5, 2006 2:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Where do you...
...Go to High School? (You to Patblue)
I am a H.S. sr at New Trier
Aren't college searches fun?

Go Trevians!

by stadiumguru on Dec 4, 2006 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not gonna...
give out the name of my highschool. But I live in Rockford, Illinois :)

by Patblue on Dec 4, 2006 9:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was born
in Rockford - live in CA now.
D-LEE!

by airweino on Dec 5, 2006 12:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm from Roscoe
Hononegah High School.
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 11:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
So people have made it out of Rockford, haha..

Ahh.. Hononegah.. So you where an Indian :] It's a very nice school... Alot better than Rockford public schools anyways. But atleast we always get you in football!

by Patblue on Dec 5, 2006 4:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't post on here much but
I like random stuff like this:

Lamar Community College (Lamar, Colo.) - Associates of Arts, 2003 [Random School Fact: Lamar CC is the alma mater of current White Sox pitcher Brandon McCarthy]

Centenary College of Louisiana (Shreveport, La.) - Bachelor of Arts, Communication, 2005 [Random School Fact: Centenary is the smallest Division I school in the nation with an undergraduate enrollment of just over 900; also the alma mater of Robert Parrish and Hal Sutton]

Miami (Ohio) University (Oxford, Ohio) - Master's in Speech Communication, exp. graduation in 2008 [Random School Fact: Former Chicago Bull Ron Harper was a two-time MAC Player of the Year at Miami]  

by gentbaseball12 on Dec 4, 2006 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hi
Fellow Miami person!

by cubs4ever on Dec 4, 2006 11:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Go RedHawks!
or Redskins, whichever you prefer (depending on your age I suppose). Glad to see there are some more Cubs fans in Southwest Ohio. You going to school at Miami now or did you graduate from here already?

by gentbaseball12 on Dec 5, 2006 1:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Currently
Attending now for my undergrad. I will graduate in May! I hate the thought of leaving Oxford though.

by cubs4ever on Dec 5, 2006 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good old Oxford
I've been working here a year and half and just started school, and this place is really growing on me. I've run into a bunch of Miami Cubs' fans though. Too bad you won't be around cause I was thinking I should try and organize something for the Miami Cubs fans since the Cubs open the season at Cincy and it is only a short drive down to Great American Ballpark.

by gentbaseball12 on Dec 5, 2006 5:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay
Undergraduate: Bowling Green State University : Major: BA in Middle Childhood Education with concentrations in Science, Social Studies and Reading.

Graduate: TBD (UNC Greensboro is likely: their Educational Research program is currently interesting me)

by cubsfan2883 on Dec 4, 2006 6:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Dropped out of college in 2000
to play rock and roll.

Now I work in politics.

No degree, although I still consider going back and finishing up with a law degree, but I probably won't.

phat

by phatass on Dec 4, 2006 6:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ooops
Make that 1990, not 2000.

phat

by phatass on Dec 4, 2006 6:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose I should have mentioned
I went to the University of Nebraska Lincoln.

I still live in Lincoln. There are a few BCB readers here in Lincoln.

phat

by phatass on Dec 5, 2006 3:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

why not
University of Minnesota School of Journalism (projected graduation 2008)

Post-Grad work Medill School of Journalism, Northwestern (Hopefully, fingers crossed)

by DTJchris on Dec 4, 2006 6:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Go Cats (and 'Hoos)!
Alright, why not....

B.A. Northwestern University - Political Science and Economics, 2001

J.D. University of Virginia School of Law, 2006

by Chadnudj on Dec 4, 2006 6:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OK
BA (English), University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1995);
JD, University of Connecticut School of Law (2004)

Note: practiced corporate law (financial transcations and workouts) for two years; recently escaped.

"She believes what doesn't kill her/ Only takes more time to kill her" -- Joe Pernice (Pernice Brothers)

by ExNorthsider on Dec 4, 2006 6:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lot of lawyers in here
i don't have any bad experiences with lawyers, so i won't make any bad lawyer jokes.

mostly i like lawyers, i have a couple friends that are lawyers. i will say i think that malpractice lawyers are a bigger part of the health care problems than insurance companies (but less than technology and the aging population).

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Dec 4, 2006 7:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Or...
...malpractice lawyers aren't the problem - it's bad doctors (or, alternatively, a medical system that forces doctors to work 20 or more hour days) who are the real problem....

(Just a thought from a new lawyer trying to stand up for the legal profession as the watchdog protecting society from unchecked negligence and abuses....)

by Chadnudj on Dec 5, 2006 8:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Phooey: Shakesphere was right.
I have a low opinon of lawyers as a general rule.

I think Shakesphere was most likely correct.

First you kill all the lawyers.

No offense Julie.

My God that one is going to land in Milwaukee - Lou Boudreau describing a Dave Kingman home run in the Cub/Phillie 23 to 22 game in 1979.

by cjn54 on Dec 5, 2006 12:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah but
did he want to kill all the lawyers because lawyers suck, or because the lawyers are the ones who advise people of their rights?

Contrary to popular belief, the proposal was not designed to restore sanity to commercial life. Rather, it was intended to eliminate those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution -- thus underscoring the important role that lawyers can play in society.

That said, I generally hate lawyers, too.

;)

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 12:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hey
After going thru a legal malpractice case as the executor of my fathers estate (try to find a lawyer to take on another lawyer) and losing in the appellete court...my opinion of lawyers is not of the highest, but I do have to say that there are some good ones out there...they are just the exceptions that I have dealt with.

Kasey

by kaseyi on Dec 5, 2006 1:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, you guys
Everyone hates lawyers until they need one. I've spent my career as a public defender and legal aid attorney. I've only been in private practice for a year. So quit lumping me in with the sharks!
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 1:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I did say..
there are some good ones out there.  You might be one (I hope), but there are also some real bad ones out there, including the one my dad (and me after he died) went after.  This guy was my dads friend for 40+ years and just screwed him around when he trusted him.  

Kasey

by kaseyi on Dec 5, 2006 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Julie - I truly mean now offense
It is just that I have a problem with some who use the legal system like it was a lottery ticket.

If there is a legitimate reason for redress of grivance than by all means seek restitution for any bad thay you may have encountered.

 But to sue just for the sheer heck of it, hoping to hit a jackpot.  That I have a problem with.

I also have a problem with criminal lawyers who think that justice is a game, and that guilt does not matter, it only matters if the lawyer can get the bad guy off.

Justice is not a game.

At any rate, I really enjoy reading your posts and hope you take no offense from this old vet and Cub fan.

My God that one is going to land in Milwaukee - Lou Boudreau describing a Dave Kingman home run in the Cub/Phillie 23 to 22 game in 1979.

by cjn54 on Dec 5, 2006 2:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to respond
Because now I'm starting to get mad. Let's quit while we're all still friends.
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 2:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll just add
That I don't know any criminal attorneys who think justice is a game. I know of criminal attorneys who take seriously the fact that the constitution affords each and every criminal defendant the best possible defense and expects the prosecution to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. I know a lot of criminal attorneys who refuse to roll over and plead guilty just because the prosecution says the defendant did it, and I know a lot of prosecutors who say things like "if he's not guilty of this, he's guilty of something else." I also know a lot of prosecutors who refuse to believe that a defendant is innocent even in the case of overwhelming evidence proving them so.

I am proud of my time as a criminal defense attorney. I'll never apologize for it.

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 3:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But they do think its a game...
...in the movies.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 5, 2006 4:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i've never met
a criminal defense attorney who wasn't a thoughtful and principaled person, though i can't say the same about prosecutors. i think tv has given defense lawyers a bad name. btw julie, nobody has said anything bad about you or all lawyers (i think everyone here can tell you are a conscientious and intelligent person, and that your clients are likely lucky to have you), but i can understand you getting upset. i probably would too.

as far as malpractice is concerned, i think the law has allowed greed to take precedence over common sense and morality, and its not just the lawyers, they just happen to facilitate it. and the costs of medicine are going up not just because of malpractive claims, but also because so many doctors practice defensive medicine and order expensive, unneccessary tests to avoid suits.

i was told in my training the if you practiced with a clear, open mind, stayed current, and above all always communicated with the patient, you wouldn't get sued. i do and haven't, but unfortunately i don't think that is enough. too many people experience an bad illness and immediately see dollar signs.

wisconsin is one of the better places for that. they set caps on malpractice damages, which i think is a good thing.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Dec 5, 2006 4:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
I don't work in medical malpractice, so I can't really speak to what goes on there. I'll just say that lawyer definitely have their own side to that story. But you're right in that there are scumbags out there just looking to make a buck. The problem is that, in a lot of the more infamous "frivolous" law suits, people only know half the story. Like the McDonald's Hot Coffee case--that damage award was reasonable and totally justified. But the media got a hold of it and made it out into something it wasn't.

I just tend to think that there are jerks in every profession who step on people for their own gain. Lawyers are probably more egregious because your taking advantage of people who don't know their rights. But 99% of the attorneys I know are incredibly intelligent, decent, dedicated people whom I deeply admire. Then again, most of the lawyers I know work in legal aid, so maybe that's part of it.

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 4:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All Right Julie I publicly aplogize.
but I remember during the O. J. facas that Alan Dershiwitz (sp) braged about how he had got a murder off that he knew was guilty.

I sat there in my front room and watched him on TV refer to him as "my murderer".

That is what I am talking about.

As for the rest, perhaps another poster has it right, I used to enjoy Law and Order till the defense lawyers on the show started to annoy me.  Perhaps I am letting Hollywood sway my judgement.

As for prosecuters, the DA here in Kenosha is a joke and the one who just retired in Milwaukee (let em out Mike Mccann) is also useless.

So I guess both sides are guilty of over stepping at times.

If it is of any interest I grew up around Sherriff deputys.  

My best friend in the whole world is a Captain on the Kenosha Sherriff department.

Do not get mad.  I can tell you from personal experience it is not worth the effort.

You can get sick.  Trust me on that one I know.

My God that one is going to land in Milwaukee - Lou Boudreau describing a Dave Kingman home run in the Cub/Phillie 23 to 22 game in 1979.

by cjn54 on Dec 5, 2006 4:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No worries
We're all good.

I used to love Law & Order. That show made me want to be a criminal attorney. But it is very one-sided and not really fair to defense attorneys. It definitely never shows prosecutors in the light I saw a lot of them in. THen again, maybe I just never had a prosecutors as decent as Jack McCoy.

Dershowitz is a scumbag.

HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 4:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Julie: my favorite lawyer T shirt
Some years ago  the Northwestern Women Law
Students Association had a T shirt that read

Have you ever met "a reasonable man ?". I loved that.

Some of my friends are lawyers and  I am NOT starting
a political thread but I do know a lot of ACLU lawyers

I love the ballpark. I love the city. I love the fans. Aside from how we've played this year, there's nothing not to like about Chicago." Greg Maddux 7/29/06

by jessica on Dec 5, 2006 4:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Southern Man
After doing a stint in the AF, I did my junior year at the University of Florida (PoliSci/Geography)

Currently finishing up at the University of North Florida, grad in May '07 (PoliSci/History)

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Dec 4, 2006 7:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Alrighty
Undergrad: In Progress

University of Illinois with a History major and Political Science Minor. Graduating in Spring 2007.

Al, how did you move from PS to TV stuff? I was thinking of possible jobs after college and media was one idea.

by FukudomeAtLarge on Dec 4, 2006 7:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Clarification
University of Illinois at Champaign/Urbana

by FukudomeAtLarge on Dec 4, 2006 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I did...
... a lot of college radio when I was there, and had a TV internship. The internship might be the way to go for you. Opened a lot of doors.

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 7:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

College radio...
The highlight of my undergraduate years.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mine too, actually.
Plus, I had two actual paid DJ gigs at the time.

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice
I ran mine completely from the ground up, and I did it on a $1000/yr stipend.  It was obviously a lot of fun.  It also opened a lot of doors for me already.  Looks like radio is the way to go in college!
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 7:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's cool!
I loved the radio gigs, had a tremendous amount of fun, learned a lot about the biz, etc.

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 8:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boo Gators!!
Undergrad:
University of Michigan Ann Arbor:
BA Anthropology (Archaeology)
Minor in Classical Archaeology
Graduation Dec 06, one semester early :)

Grad: Not yet, but it will be Law School.

It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine!! (Expect for the whole 'study for the LSATs' thing)

by michigancubbie on Dec 4, 2006 7:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hah!
The Wolverines had their chance.  Win your conference and then you can complain!

Go Gators! Chomp Chomp!

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Dec 4, 2006 7:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

like they say...
BCS championship is for the best two teams in the country, those two are Ohio State and Michigan.  'Having your chance' means playing in the championship game, not playing a regular season game that happens every year.  The final polls will show Ohio State #1, and Michigan #2.

(and hopefully Wisconsin #3) :)

It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine!! (Expect for the whole 'study for the LSATs' thing)

by michigancubbie on Dec 4, 2006 8:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blow up the BCS
Win it on the field like Div 1AA and II. Of course I'm an Auburn fan so what do I know.

MBA- University of North Alabama- 1993, 94, 95 NCAA div II national champs- Won on the field!

by LT on Dec 4, 2006 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

DII football rules!
Go GVSU Lakers!  Soon to be 2006 Champs, to go along with 2005, 2003, and 2002!

Sorry about your loss to Delta last week, we'll kick them to the curb on Sunday.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Dec 5, 2006 5:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boo Hoo
You and all Michigan fans should have a beef with the Big 11 and the BCS, not Florida and the poll voters.  Get a conference championship game like the big boys.  
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Dec 4, 2006 8:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What difference would that make?
NCAA football should have a playoff for its top teams. Every other sport in the NCAA at every other level has one. There is NO reason to NOT have one.

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 8:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We're talking..
..who is worthy of the championship game this year, not BCS vs. a playoff system.  

I agree that the BCS is the most evil entity in all of sports.  But it's not going to change this year so we might as well debate which team should be in the title game.  

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Dec 4, 2006 9:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BCS is crap...
I agree with that, I simply think that, when it comes down to it, Michigan is better than Florida.  
It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine!! (Expect for the whole 'study for the LSATs' thing)

by michigancubbie on Dec 5, 2006 12:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly my point.
MORE money could be made with a true playoff.

by Al on Dec 5, 2006 8:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

definately not
30 bowl games make money for 30 school as oppossed to 8 or so playoff schools.

by mike b on Dec 5, 2006 8:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who says...
... it should be limited to 8 schools?

Why not use the existing bowl structure as preliminary rounds? You could have 16 games involving 32 teams.

by Al on Dec 5, 2006 9:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That might be too many teams...
The thing they need to do is have a 8 team playoff (or even a 4) and then designate bowls for the remaining teams...

Only the top 8 teams would qualify for the playoff, where the title game would be whatever year's bowl (Sugar, Orange, etc.) it should be. The other 30 teams would continue to be in the same bowls...

DUNSTON!

by thekansasian on Dec 5, 2006 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

too many games
you would have to shorten the regular season.

by mike b on Dec 5, 2006 9:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

all but one
of the bowl games are already meaningless. no reason they couldn't have an 8 team playoff plus bowl games. it could just be the bcs playoff series, where all the current bcs teams would do a playoff.
or, since they already added a game to the season this year, have the conference title go to the team with the best record and scratch that last game, then you could do a 16 team playoff.
DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Dec 5, 2006 10:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

true you could do 16
if you dumped conference championships. "playoffs" are no more indication of who the best team in the nation is than a bcs bowl system but it is the norm so its a natural fall back. you could have the rose bowl be the national championship and us the other bowls that actually have some history in the other games.  either way you are excluding teams by some decision process, you will have co champs who don't play each other, and your non conference teams that are competitive most years or sporadically. 16 playoff teams for 12 conferences, with the last 4 going to the best overall teams I assume? you're still going to have to decide who those teams are, and you will have to use voting or bcs parameters to do it. then you will have the bitching about a crappy wac team making it every year versus a 2 SEC or Big # team; similar to the nl west complaints.  either way, someone will get "screwed" and people will bitch.

by mike b on Dec 5, 2006 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it would be similar to
the ncaa basketball tourney, where there is some griping about who got hosed, but not near as much as when only two teams get to play for the championship, and there ins't a concensus who those two teams are. plus it would give teams like boise state, who could go undefeated for 10 years in a row and not play for the title, a chance to play cindarella.
no system is perfect, but a 16 team playoff would, imo, correctly reward the regular season teams, and give a good number of teams a chance to play for the title and see who is the best when its win or go home.
the championship game should be at the rose bowl every year, but they could also rotate it like they do now.
DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Dec 5, 2006 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes
I would much rather have the bitching be about the 17th team than the 2nd. i thinkif you're going to do it you have to do it right and have 16, let all the conferences and the 4 best. a playoff with 8 is no differnet than the BCS really in terms of picking who is in.

by mike b on Dec 5, 2006 11:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're wrong Al
Al, if you think the BCS title game controversy is bad, imagine what would happen if we tried even a four team playoff this year.

Ohio State-Florida-Michigan are in no question, but who's the fourth team? Wisconsin? Boise State? LSU? Oklahoma?

If putting the two best teams in the title game stirs up debate and anger, imagine it multiplied by a multiple of 10 if you tried a playoff, which will necessarily involve leaving a last team out.

The reason 1-AA playoffs work? Because generally the 1AA playoffs are ignored by the media, and because the "last team left out" in 1AA is invariably a small school that while legitimately disappointed, doesn't have the vocal alumni of a Michigan or Florida.

That being said, Gators deserved to be in the title game.  Michigan couldn't beat OSU once, if they did it in a second game, would that mean Michigan is better than OSU? No, they'd be tied, 1-1.  At least OSU-Florida offers a clear champion (which I could care less about, frankly - why do we need a clear national champion? What's wrong with having split national titles? Go back to the old system, with the Big 10-Pac 10 Rose Bowl....after all, isn't it bittersweet for you Buckeye fans to NOT be playing in the Rose Bowl?)

by Chadnudj on Dec 5, 2006 9:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No logic
Again, Chad, if the Patriots and Bears are in the Super Bowl, and the Bears win, does it make the Bears any less of Super Bowl Champs since the Pats beat the Bears during the regular season? You get to the final game however you get there, through playoffs, polls, etc.

The Wolverines lost by three points in Columbus, with the nail in the coffin being a late hit penalty on Michigan that kept the ball in OSU hands. Voters clearly voted Florida #2 because they wanted to create a match-up. Had USC won against UCLA, no one honestly believes that Florida would have leaped Michigan, do they?

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 5, 2006 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Florida most likely would not have leaped Mich
if USC had won. But, I think they still would have tied in the computer rankings and who knows how those coaches were voting before the last poll. I think all the voting should be made public for the full year, or at least the last month or 6 weeks. Tressel not voting was an interesting move...

by LT on Dec 5, 2006 10:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not the point
Well, if we decided who played in the Super Bowl based on "rankings," and disregarded everything else, than I think if it came down to a situation where the Patriots were undisputedly the best team in the NFL, and the Bears were tied with someone else (Dallas?) who had not played the Patriots at all for the Super Bowl spot, then I'd say the Cowboys should have a shot to beat them.

But we don't do that in the NFL.  There is a playoff, and that's fine.

Point is, you wouldn't be complaining if there had been no prior polls.....look at it this way: no poll prior to the last one has ANY bearing on ANYTHING. Nor should it.  At the end of the season, voters decided Florida was #2, not Michigan.  Where Michigan was in prior weeks is in no way binding on who #2 is AT THE END OF THE SEASON.

by Chadnudj on Dec 5, 2006 12:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No matter...
... how the match-up is decided, it is what it is. Whether it be by poll or by playoff, the value of the in-season victory versus playoff vistory is no different.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 5, 2006 12:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No...
...because what you fail to see is that EVERY college football game is a playoff game.

Granted, a 1-loss team gets into the college "Super Bowl," but no team that LOST to the undefeated #1 should be given a second chance to play that #1.

Like I said, the real problem is having polls at all before the end of the season - absent those earlier polls, Michigan has nothing to gripe about.  It's those earlier, NON-BINDING poll results that have Michigan in a tizzy, thinking they were treated "unfairly" and got "skipped" by Florida while they weren't playing.  Those polls don't matter though, and shouldn't be looked at.  

The legitimate outcome is that people looked at all the teams, and decided Florida (after beating LSU, Arkansas, and others in the SEC) was a stronger #2 team than Michigan.  Case closed.

(All that being said, the Big 10 is still the best football conference in America, and OSU will beat Florida. Michigan and Wisconsin, too, will hopefully win - too bad my NU Wildcats couldn't pull out a miracle season in memory of Coach Walker)

by Chadnudj on Dec 5, 2006 1:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Three point loss on the road
vs. a rematch at a neutral site? That's not fair to every team that had to play the #1 team on the road.  
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Dec 6, 2006 2:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They can't ...
... just have a playoff game. The NCAA won't allow it. NCAA rules say that only conferences with 12 teams or more can have a playoff.

For everyone who says that Michigan had their chance, I assume that you'll suggest that the Bears just concede the game if they're pitted in the Super Bowl against the Patriots since the Pats won the regular season match-up last week.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 4, 2006 9:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Right.
And maybe the NFL should just have coaches and sportswriters vote on who should be in the Super Bowl.

</sarcasm>

by Al on Dec 4, 2006 9:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The biggest problem getting a playoff is
that the current set up allows the big boys to get most if not all of the money. If they had a playoff similar to Div 1AA and II, they would end up having split money with the whole Div 1. As it stands now, the SEC has 9 teams in bowls. That is a lot of jack.

by LT on Dec 5, 2006 9:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry
notre dame and wisconsin quality wins do not make.

by mike b on Dec 4, 2006 10:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Badgers
Have you watched Wisconsin play this year? I may be a bit biased, but their defense is tremendous, with one of the top pass defenses in the country. They have one of the best freshman runners in the country who was mentioned for the Heisman for much of the year. They have a fourth year QB who gets little mention but has an accurate arm and knows how to manage a game (and he will get drafted likely in the 3rd or 4th round). Wisconsin may not be the #5 team in the nation as the coaches have voted them, but for those who like to discount the Badgers, I'll remind you that the Badgers were discounted last year and promptly handled the Auburn Tigers quite easily in the Cap One Bowl.

I find it convenient that the folks who voted for Florida choose to ignore their unimpressive wins over South Carolina (1 pt), Tennessee (1 pt), Vanderbilt (6 pts), and Florida State (7 pts).

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 4, 2006 10:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well considering last year means nothing
i have seen them play and they do look pretty good, but when i look at that schedule i am also very unimpressed.

by mike b on Dec 4, 2006 11:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My point ...
... was that Wisconsin is continuously discredited year after year, but all they do is beat who they face. Last year people said Wisconsin was mediocre and couldn't handle the speed of Auburn, but they did.

As to their schedule, you play who you play. Oregon State was on their schedule but the Beavers cancelled and Wisconsin had to replace them with Division I-AA Western IL. San Diego State was a good team when the game was scheduled and BGSU has been up and down. So you play who you play and all you can do is judge them by how they look.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 4, 2006 11:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

understand
you play who you are scheduled. still matters who you schedule, which is my point. same reason boise state is not playing in the national championship.

by mike b on Dec 4, 2006 11:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Wisconsin in the Cap One Bowl again?
These idiotic Razorbacks' fans down here are claiming Houston and the Chain Gang crew are gonna tear the Badgers a new ass ...
Coming Soon: The Martha Stewart Collection's Mark Prior "Signature" Towel ...

by Littlerock Rynofan on Dec 5, 2006 10:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup...
... back in the Cap. One Bowl. They're claming the same thing that the Auburn fans said last year, that Wisconsin was slow, plodding, no QB, that we couldn't stop the speed of an SEC team, that Wisconsin would get pummelled. Wisconsin handled Auburn easily.

I'm used to Wisconsin getting little respect. Typically this is when hubris settles. It should be a good game, but for thsoe who think that Wisconsin has no speed or can't stop a fast RB, well, they'll be surprised. I just hope Wisconsin and Michigan don't fall into the trap that every other team who feels as though they got screwed falls into. You always get the team or two who feels that they didn't get their due in their Bowl assignment and they inevitably lose by three TDs.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 5, 2006 12:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you DmL...
Not enough time to look up the stats right now, but the Badgers are top 10 in many major defensive statistics (pass defense, total defense...)  Travis Beckum will be the best tight end in the conference, and one of the best nationally when all is said and done.  Stocco should be back for the bowl game, but we've seen that Donovan isn't strictly a runner like everyone thought he was.  Our D is faster than you think, our O-Line is anchored by the consensus best O-Lineman in the country/top 3 pick, and I think we'll show everyone that the Big 10 was not 2-deep this year.

And oh yeah, McFadden scares the living crap out of me.  He is really good.

by Schwa on Dec 5, 2006 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just wanted to say...
I love how I start a major discussion with the simple comment of "Boo Gators!"  

No nice comments about college for me :P

It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine!! (Expect for the whole 'study for the LSATs' thing)

by michigancubbie on Dec 5, 2006 5:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How about a Comment from an Old Man??
I will make an attempt to contribute.

My dad introduced me to Cubs baseball in the mid 60's.  He would shake my bed around 7 saying come on son we are going to a Cub game.

We would ride the old North Shore train and get off right in front of Wrigley (if I remmber correctly).  Eat at Franksville (outstanding foot long hot dogs).  And then go in and sit in the lower grandstands.

Used to go to a lot of Memorial Day Double Headers (yes they actually did play 2 back then).

Come 1972 the USN beckoned (seemed like a good idea at the time).

17 years and a service connected disability later I started at UW Parkside in Kenosha (born and raised there, live here now).  Got a BA in History in 1995.  Wrote a rotating column for the Kenosha News (1998 - 2000).

Had a stroke in 1999 (not some thing I recommend by the way).

Recovered and have been working for the VA in Norh Chicago since 2004.  (could have almost had another stroke on a certain October night in 2003, but we will not go there will we).

All in all not a bad life.  

Wish I could use my educaton some though.

My God that one is going to land in Milwaukee - Lou Boudreau describing a Dave Kingman home run in the Cub/Phillie 23 to 21 game in 1979.

by cjn54 on Dec 4, 2006 7:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Here's My One Second of Fame
Schools, etc. attended:

Saint Mel High School, Chicago (kicked out)
Austin High School, Chicago, grad 1965
United States Air Force, 1966-1990 (retired)
Los Angeles Community College Overseas
Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College
William Carey College
University of Southern Mississippi
Regents College, BS in Liberal Arts 1999 (English emphasis)

AA in Air Traffic Control - Community College of the Air Force, 1982
AA in Instructional Technology - Community College of the Air Force, 1983

I intend to enroll at Tulane for graduate school after I retire from my civilian job (I'm a training specialist in air traffic control)in 2009.  I will continue studies in literature  because I love lit and will be too old to use it for anything constructive by the time I finish, except maybe to read to my grandchildren!

by Luigi on Dec 4, 2006 7:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

My dad
did ATC in the AF.  He also refuses to fly.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 7:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't refuse
but I have been a white-knuckled flier for many, many years and for what I believe to be many, many good reasons.

When did your Dad go through ATC school?  Perhaps he was one of my students or peers.

by Luigi on Dec 4, 2006 8:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not entirely sure
I think it was about 22 years ago, give or take a few years.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 8:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

By-the-Way
Great NBB Diary.  I am very impressed by the readers of BCB.

by Luigi on Dec 4, 2006 8:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a group idea.
And what a good way to stick it to those BCB detractors ;)
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 8:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

gravedigger
I'm glad you made this diary. When I suggested it, I thought I was the only curious one.
Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Dec 4, 2006 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently not!
Thanks for suggesting it.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 8:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

me
University of North Carolina, 2001 - Math Sciences major
Check out my Cubs Minor League System website: Top Cubs Prospects

by jonpyardi on Dec 4, 2006 8:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

No College
for me, but I graduated in 2006 (Yeah, like 5 months ago) from the Steinbach Regional Secondary School in Steinbach Manitoba Canada.

I am not attending any school yet, but next year I hope to be in the Brandon Fire College (School for Fire Fighting)

Los Cachorros!

by Laven on Dec 4, 2006 8:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

To Laven from Manitoba
Interesting.  How did you happen to become a Cubs fan?

Federer

It's like deja`vu all over again ....

by tigerperson on Dec 4, 2006 9:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We had
family friends that moved to the Chicago area.  We went down to visit them a couple times and they always took us kids (When we were younger) to watch the Cubs play.  I saw a bunch of good games there.

The first game we saw was against the Brewers or the Astros (I was young and tried googleing it but to no avail) and it was I believe the latest the Cubs had ever played into the night.  I think the game was over at 1:15 or something like that (With no delays)  I think the game was 15 innings long, because Harry Carry came out and sang TMOTTBG again in the 14th.

After that, I just always considered myself a fan.  Coincidentally I was born (August 9th) on the first day the cubs officially completed there first home night game.

Los Cachorros!

by Laven on Dec 4, 2006 9:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To Laven from Manitoba
Wow.. thanks, great story.

Federer

It's like deja`vu all over again ....

by tigerperson on Dec 5, 2006 7:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I
graduated from the University of Kentucky in 2005. I'm a Physical Therapist.

by Macy on Dec 4, 2006 8:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

my
undergrad - western michigan university - applied mathematics - 03

by bobby h on Dec 4, 2006 9:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Taylor University...
Graduated from Taylor University (Upland, IN) with a double major in Economics and Business Systems in 2004..  

Graduate level will be an MBA from Notre Dame that I'm in the process of...

by ontheuptick on Dec 4, 2006 9:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Also from Taylor University!
Yes, the good old cornfields of Upland, Indiana.  Played baseball there and graduated in 2000 with degrees in Accounting and Business Administration.  Also took summer classes at Drake University in Des Moines.

by chipwood23 on Dec 4, 2006 9:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
Y'all kind of put me to shame.

BS - Computer Science, Quincy University, Quincy, IL 1988

At the time, going on for more schooling was not an option, I was pretty burned out by that time and ready to get to work and make some money. Looking back, I should have made the choice to go on.

by Bill M on Dec 4, 2006 9:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nah
I got my MS in CS and don't really feel it did me much good.  Other than the fact that it got me to Chicago.  And that my fundamentalist Christian advisor once asked me to download pornography.
PAGAN!

by Jesse Guam on Dec 4, 2006 9:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's funny
I went on to grad school right after undergrad thinking the burnout I was suffering would magically go away.  I should have taken the advice that my scholarship offered and taken a year or or two or ten off.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 4, 2006 9:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My sister
went to Quincy around that time.  Back then, wasn't it called Quincy College?  
MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Dec 5, 2006 5:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes
Yes, it was Quincy College until around '93 I think. I was there from '84 to May '88, and my brother graduated in '91 from there.

by Bill M on Dec 6, 2006 2:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My turn
I have a BS in Geographic Information Sciences and a BS in Wildlife and Fishery Sciences from South Dakota State University

I am currently going to grade school for Geography working with Satellite images

Also I am impressed with the number of grad schoolers here either great students or accomplished liars :)

by Lablover on Dec 4, 2006 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Jumbo
Tufts University, BS in Computer Science and Classics, '96
University of Illinois at Chicago, MS in Computer Science, '99
PAGAN!

by Jesse Guam on Dec 4, 2006 9:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

My turn!
Undergrad: University of California Santa Barbara (your 2006 men's soccer national champions!), B.A. in Law and Society, 2002

Grad: Loyola University Chicago School of Law, J.D., 2006

I'm also a newly admitted member of the Illinois bar, as if this state needed any more lawyers.

by gauchodirk on Dec 4, 2006 9:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

BS Aerospace Engineering
2004

working on masters in technical management

by mike b on Dec 4, 2006 10:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am an INDIAN....
...from Leland Stanford University (I am NOT a Cardinal).

JD from Cal Berkeley.

Yes I am a hippie (ret.)

Occupation: taxi driver/reverend

El Jefe

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Dec 4, 2006 10:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you redeemed yourself
roll on you bears

by dholl on Dec 5, 2006 11:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if you ask

Proviso West HS '73, Hillside, IL

BA, Communications, (Broadcast Emphasis) Western Illinois University 1977, minor in business

(Also attended Triton College, River Grove, IL)

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Dec 4, 2006 11:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

we've talked about this before jazzman
Western Illinois University 2006 - Computer Science w/ minor in management.

I was hoping this would reveal more Leathernecks.

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Dec 5, 2006 7:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...
Saddleback College, Mission Viejo, CA. A.A. in Criminal Justice, 1978.

University of California, Irvine, 1983. B.A. in Principles of Social Ecology.

Western States University College of Law, Fullerton, CA. J.D., 1998.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 4, 2006 11:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I live
right around the corner from Western Law...
D-LEE!

by airweino on Dec 5, 2006 12:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

me
Undergrad - UC Santa Barbara, Class of 1992, English (and athletic coaching certification)
Graduate - University of Redlands, 2000, Master of Arts in Management.

On top of that I have worked at a university for all but six months of my professional life. I currently work at UC Riverside. So, essentially, I have been "in college" since 1987.

Throw Jacque Jones down the well, so the Cubs will be free...

by Ross on Dec 4, 2006 11:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

My Turn
I am currently attending Miami of Ohio (If I have to hear one more thing about OSU I might die...)and pursuing a BS in Marketing. I will graduate this May YIKES!

I hope to go to law school next year in either Chicago or Dallas. I am working on my law school apps as we speak eeek!

by cubs4ever on Dec 4, 2006 11:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Another late addition
Contrary to my user name, I started college at Baylor with B.S. in History, B.A. in Sport Management, and a minor in Business Administration

I transferred to the University of Nebraska Lincoln after my junior and only have one semester left here.  When I get done here I will have B.A. in History, Art and Art History, and Religious Studies.

After this it is law school although I am awaiting acceptance letters that probably won't come until February or March

by Bleed Husker Red on Dec 5, 2006 12:11 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see that
clause down there my gravedigger.

My biggest motivator came from a teacher I had when I was a freshman in high school. At the time I was the most unmotivated, laziest punk of a kid you'd want to meet. (Stil am, but to a more tolerable degree) Until I met my Geography teacher for the first time. It was by his hand, and his alone that I learned I could do much better things if I just sat down and put my mind to it. He challenged me in every way to be better, which at the time I found to be a nuisance, but in retrospect, I owe this man my thanks, times 1,000.

The biggest thing for me is when I was told a few years back when I received my AA what he had done at a parent teacher conference that year.

Mr. Boone at the time had held up two student's works, one was neat and looked like an honor roll student had done it (which was the case) and the other looked like someone did it at the last minute. He looked to the parents of the room and said, "Which do you think I'd rather read? Which student do you think I would much rather have in this class room?"

Of course we all know the answer they gave.

To which he responded, "I would take this student with the chicken scratch 10 times over this honor roll student, never in my 30 years of teaching have I come across a student with so much going for him"

That night my parents introduced themselves, where he stood dumbfounded, and sung my praises.

It's because of Mr. Boone that I will do what I do. He impacted me so much, I feel it just makes sense to give back what I got.

TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 5, 2006 1:20 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Almost there...
I'm finishing up my senior year at Stanford University with a Major in Economics. Look out real world, here I come. Off to bring my Cub pride to NYC.

by StanfordCub on Dec 5, 2006 1:54 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am to late...
Bachelors in Architectural Studies
Masters of Architecture

Both at the University of IL at Chicago

"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on Dec 5, 2006 1:54 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

hehe
another architect!
SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 8:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And
Another poor soul who went to UIC.
PAGAN!

by Jesse Guam on Dec 5, 2006 9:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

quiet you!
 
TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 5, 2006 10:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No
I went there for grad school, and have very few good things to say about it.
PAGAN!

by Jesse Guam on Dec 5, 2006 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not real impressed either
but I make do with what I have.
TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 5, 2006 11:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

UIC was OK not the greatest but...
I've got that little piece-o-paper.
"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on Dec 5, 2006 11:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i used to play
basketball at the uic gym every day.
DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Dec 5, 2006 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The gym on the other hand!
 
TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Dec 5, 2006 1:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know...
if I should take offense or just be sad.
"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on Dec 5, 2006 11:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

to what I said?
no offense meant, just wallowing in the pit of despair that is our combined loss of sleep and overdoses of caffiene
SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

but
I love it so
SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jumping into this pretty late but...
Here it is

B.A in Computer Science from Illinois Insitute of Technology - 12-1979

Kasey

by kaseyi on Dec 5, 2006 7:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

mine
University of Maryland, College Park
 BS Architecture

now I'm doing my MArch in Boston

SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 8:29 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I went everywhere ...
Palatine High, P-ville, IL, 1978
Arizona State University, until 1980
University of Southern California (hated it), 1982
University of California, Los Angeles, 1983
(Okay, that was embarrassing)

Family problems caused me to pull out of school, return to Chicago, and kept me stupid until 1988 when I attended:

University of Arkansas, Little Rock, BA, History, Art History, magna cum laude, 1990

Graduate work:  UALR, art history, French history

And what do I do?  Write--which I have been doing since I was thirteen.  Glad to see that degree got me somewhere ... NOT!

Coming Soon: The Martha Stewart Collection's Mark Prior "Signature" Towel ...

by Littlerock Rynofan on Dec 5, 2006 10:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow
You have been everywhere!  So my significant other is thinking about grad school, but wants to write as a career.  Is your advice to not go?

Great sig, BTW.

formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 5, 2006 10:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

um
You have been everywhere!

says the guy who went to Hawaii and Syracuse

SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 10:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear a Johnny Cash song coming on ...
Coming Soon: The Martha Stewart Collection's Mark Prior "Signature" Towel ...

by Littlerock Rynofan on Dec 5, 2006 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And
Alaska and Indiana and Idaho and Washington, DC :)
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 5, 2006 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I once
had a goal to live in 6 different places, with 3 zip codes 1-5 and 3 5-9

so far I have a 0,2,5,6

Chicago, Maryland, Milwaukee and Boston

SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 10:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean to finish grad school, really I do.
I have heard a couple of things about attending graduate programs for an MFA in Creative Writing.  One is, do it, especially if you can get into one of the better schools:  University of Iowa, or UNC, Chapel Hill.  

The other:  DON'T.  A friend of mine, who has just had his first book published, had a jealous professor that essentially told him to get out of the program, as he had no talent.  The prof, apparently, had only published short stories, but could never get a contract for his Great American Novel.  Ten years later, my friend is published and his prof languishes at University of Arkansas.

Writing--especially fiction writing--can create some mighty obnoxious egos when it is really so unnecessary ... tell the better half to get involved in a local writers' group and a critique group or two.  Those two factors alone will improve one's writing and lead to interesting networking opportunities ...

Hope that helps.

Coming Soon: The Martha Stewart Collection's Mark Prior "Signature" Towel ...

by Littlerock Rynofan on Dec 5, 2006 10:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it does
That sounds like great advice.  Thanks for taking the time!
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 5, 2006 10:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do go
to the University of Iowa. They have a great program.
COTTS!!!

by sue369 on Dec 5, 2006 11:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A late entry
Beloit College, BA 1973 German, Government
University of Chicago, MA 1976; PhD 1983, Germanic Lanuguages and Literatures
University of Nebraska-Lincoln, German professor since then.
Hoping to goodness is not theologically sound. --Linus

by moldyfolky on Dec 5, 2006 11:01 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Real Dirt
Beloit College in the late 60s/early 70s? Have you seen the excellent documentary "The Real Dirt on Farmer John"?

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/realdirt/film.html

"She believes what doesn't kill her/ Only takes more time to kill her" -- Joe Pernice (Pernice Brothers)

by ExNorthsider on Dec 5, 2006 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the link
I was a few years before John, I imagine.  Beloit was an odd place in those days.  If you want a stange, German view of rural Wisconsin, find a copy of Werner Herzog's "Strozsek".  You'll never look at frozen turkey or dancing chickens quite the same way again.
Hoping to goodness is not theologically sound. --Linus

by moldyfolky on Dec 5, 2006 2:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Go Flyers!
Graduated from the University of Dayton in 2003.

Majors: Marketing/Finance

by 10 14 23 26 on Dec 5, 2006 11:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Late Arrival
Purdue BA Advertising 93

by BadGuy on Dec 5, 2006 11:28 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow! I'm behind on this one!
Undergrad-  Grand Valley State University
Degree- BA in French, BA in German, minor in International Business

Also attended:
Ecole France Langue in Nice, France
Sprachinstitut in Tubingen, Germany

What do I do?  I do IT support for GM Dealerships.  Very related to my degree, huh?

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Dec 5, 2006 11:36 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Also another late entry
Appalachian State University in the mountains of Boone, NC.

Majored in Journalism, minored in Sociology.

If you want to check it out, turn on ESPN Saturday at 4 p.m. as we are playing in the semifinals for the I-AA Championship. I will be up there freezing my butt off.

Going for Back-To-Back titles, baby!

I very excite about this upcoming season! Jenqui!

by nextyearcub on Dec 5, 2006 12:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Another Laker Alum.
For all you D2 Football fans out there...  Grand Valley State University will be on the deuce this weekend, according to our alumni E-newsletter.  Fascinating!  I know.

Me:

Grand Valley State University, 2000, B.A. Advertising/Public Relations

Capella University, 2005, M.S. Education (Specializing in Training and Performance Improvement)

by davis9 on Dec 5, 2006 12:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I left
GVSU in 2002 when i graduated at the beginning of the dynasty.

7 pm is the game on ESPN2!!

And it's not all football, all the other sports are doing well, too.    

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Dec 5, 2006 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Question:
If we're all so smart, how come our always devolve into being so stupid?
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 12:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Read your sentence again
That might explain why.  I don't think we're all as smart as we think.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 5, 2006 1:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!!
In my defense, I was on a conference call at the same time. Multi-tasking never works out for me. Sigh.
HENDRY!

by cubbiejulie on Dec 5, 2006 1:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One of the few engineers
I think I saw an aerospace engineer way up at the top.

And the only guy from NM?

New Mexico State University:
I have two semesters left on a BS in electrical engineering and a supplemental major in mathematics.

I haven't decided on grad school yet, but in engineering, besides gaining knowledge, it usually only translates into a higher starting salary.

Us engineers are a rare breed I tells ya. You can't spell geek without EE.

THE FONZ HAS ARRIVED!

by amaru on Dec 5, 2006 12:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

EE
really can't describe how much I hated it. third time was the charm.

by mike b on Dec 5, 2006 12:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree it's tough
But I think rather than being hard, it's actually more time consuming than anything.

Alot of long night in campus labs and study halls.

THE FONZ HAS ARRIVED!

by amaru on Dec 5, 2006 12:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way
To clarify: Yes I know that the entire reason for grad school is to learn more and make more money.

the sentence came off kind of obvious. What I meant is that alot of the time in engineering jobs a bachelors and a masters will even out over time in salary. And I don't know if I have the willpower to make it through another 1 1/2 to 2 years.

THE FONZ HAS ARRIVED!

by amaru on Dec 5, 2006 12:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

my advice
if you can get a job with one of the big boys, take it, most of them will pay for you to go to school. doing that now and i haven't paid a dime for any of it, and there's no restrictions on what I take, as longs as it is further education.

The post above: EE was a bad combo for me, never dealt with electricity previously and had no interest in it.  For everybody besides EE majors its a blip on the radar screen in your normal curiculum. I also had the conceptual expalin to me with a very bad and incorrect analogy, so that hardly helped.

by mike b on Dec 5, 2006 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of engineer are you?
Sorry, I know you probably posted it above somewhere.

Let me guess....you are an ME. I know that most ME's have to take some sort of EE class as part of their curiculum.

Too bad you didn't get to take some sort of signals processing course. I find those as the most interesting and most people ouside of the college seem to also.

THE FONZ HAS ARRIVED!

by amaru on Dec 6, 2006 4:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

pretty close
aerospace

we had two EE classes and a lab.

by mike b on Dec 6, 2006 8:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Land of Enchantment
Born and raised in Albuquerque. Haven't lived there for five years but miss the mountains/mexican food/nice weather. I'm a Lobo fan at heart, so hopefully you won't hold it against me as an Aggie.

by gentbaseball12 on Dec 5, 2006 1:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was raised in Albuquerque
I grew up on the southeast side in some apartments which were literally right behind the Dukes stadium. Infact while I was growing up I had the privalege of getting to see a few games when Mike Piazza played here.

The thing I like about New Mexico is the mixture of such diverse cultures and the intense change in landscape as you travel from northern NM to southern NM.

Interseting you bring it up, the Aggies played the Lobos tonight in mens basketball....unfortunately I could not attend because I was working on a project for my electromagnetics class.

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by amaru on Dec 6, 2006 4:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NM State Aggies
BA in Government/Political Science from NMSU in '75 and
MPA from U of Southern California in '79.

Now live in Virginia.  I grew up outside Chicago in the late 50's - early 60's and got to see Ernie Banks play in person at Wrigley.  Then moved to NM I was hooked at a very early age watching WGN on hot summer afternoons.

We're heading for Las Cruces for the holidays.

I want my Macias!

by wombat on Dec 6, 2006 8:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I went East
Even after  swearing I wouldn't because it was too
far from Wrigley ( I am not kidding I did an essay for one
school on just that).
so
Wesleyan Univ (CT) ( History, Government & American Studies)
Yes I was a triple major but not as bad as it sounds.
Grad UCLA one year of film school , fled before finishing MA

Not giving years

I love the ballpark. I love the city. I love the fans. Aside from how we've played this year, there's nothing not to like about Chicago." Greg Maddux 7/29/06

by jessica on Dec 5, 2006 1:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

school assignments
with baseball, and the Cubs/Wrigley in particular are the best
SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 1:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Long story
But I actually got a note from the admissiions guy
at Occidental ( where I wrote an essay about hating the
Dodgers and not wanting to be so far from the Cubs)
that he hoped I would come and learn to accept the Dodgers
We all know how well that turned out

When I DID go to Wesleyan which had an undergrad
enrollment made up 75% students from the East Coast
I ended up in a quad with roomates from MN,IN & TN
This would be highly improbable BUT in my roomate
form that asked about the smoking/no smoking , neat
sloppy stuff , in the section for "special requests" I wrote
in "Anyone but a Yankee fan" and have always wondered
given my roomates if they took this seriously. I WAS kidding

I love the ballpark. I love the city. I love the fans. Aside from how we've played this year, there's nothing not to like about Chicago." Greg Maddux 7/29/06

by jessica on Dec 5, 2006 1:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My guess?
they did take it seriously, or thought it would be funny to do it

and thats awesome!

we have a big portfolio to do, including each design project from studios, work experience etc, and of course "outside interests" everyone does the basic freehand drawing, and/or photography

I'm creating a 2-page spread about what else, baseball, showing how keeping score is not only a visual representation of the game, but actually diagrams it, like we diagram buildings to show important ideas

its actually pretty sweet

SINATRO!!!! Its music to my ears.

by flyball on Dec 5, 2006 2:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Though not done yet,,,
Tulane University
Senior, graduate in May 2007
Biomedical Engineering

Course, I went to Rice University for a semester too.

by cubbybear on Dec 5, 2006 2:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am currently
a freshman at Princeton in engineering.

by alwaysacub on Dec 5, 2006 2:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

My turn
Dana College undergrad
Viterbo University M.A.
Spendry!!!

by mrcubsfan on Dec 5, 2006 3:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

guess there aren't any other Penn Staters :(
Penn State UP - Biochem and Chem --> c/o '09
not sure whether to pursue med school or grad school for chemistry, which is blowing my mind right now
LOUD NOISES!!!

by NittanyCub on Dec 5, 2006 6:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Almost
My dad's a professor at Penn State.  I'm almost went there.  It's a beautiful campus though.
PAGAN!

by Jesse Guam on Dec 5, 2006 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

college
BS - Caltech; PhD - Stanford. Both in mathematics, both in the 70s.
(Now I'll start getting calculus homework questions!)

by BruceR on Dec 5, 2006 9:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

College
Undergrad only for me:

Virginia Tech, BA in Physics, minors in Math and Astronomy, class of 2002.

by pr0ner on Dec 6, 2006 2:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

One of the smartest guys I've ever known...
...also did physics, math, and astronomy all at once.  Unfortunately, he suffered from a lack of common sense.
formerly mfarrell

by gravedigger on Dec 6, 2006 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm late, but...
Currently an undergrad at DePaul set to graduate in 2009.  I'm majoring in Sociology and my minor is in Business Administration.  Now if only I could figure out what to do after college!

by steph on Dec 6, 2006 10:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm late too...
B.A. - Concordia University 1972
M.A. - Concordia University 1993

by Walt on Dec 6, 2006 10:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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