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Typical Cubs Fans

Comes to OUR house, telling us what OUR position players are worth. Sheesh! Just because a complete overhaul in the front office makes us small-market hayseeds giddy, doesn't mean we need you guys coming down to tell us what's what. And for the record, there's not enough Italian Beef with extra chese and extra sloppy in the world, to get us to trade Freel for a punk like Walker..........Well, maybe if it was Portillos,.....and you threw in a few dogs. ;)

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No way...
Freel isn't worth some Portillo's. I'm just kidding, but Portillo's is one of my favorite places.  I always buy a big beef with nothing on it just the bread and the beef.  They are sooo good.  I'm going to have to go buy one tomorrow.
Cubbie Blue always sPaRkLes in my eyes. Time to sPaRkLe Jimmy!

by sparkles721 on Feb 10, 2006 11:18 PM CST reply actions  

we're really trollin' now!
Just so everyone knows who the "typical Cubs fan" is, its me...

Find the part in the post where i tell you what "your" position players are worth. The offer i mentioned in the aricle was Freel for Walker and a pitcher. Personally, if that pitcher is Jerome Williams i think you're getting a pretty fair deal. I didn't put a name the pitcher in my original diary because the specifics of the trade wasn't the point... Actually, the one line in that diary about the "potenial trade" was the least important one, and i almost left it out entirely for that same reason - i was afraid all the Freel-loving Reds fans would scream bloody murder at the mere mention of him in any deal, no matter the parameters. So i probably shouldn't be surprised that when i put in a deal whose parameters were somewhat open-ended, i still got criticized in that diary in addition to a diary here posted for no reason other than to criticize me.

The point of that diary was to find out what Freel's status was with your ballclub. The fact that you've become so offended by the mention of a trade whose complete terms weren't even revealed is actually quite amusing...

By the way, when you first saw my diary, did you ever consider countering with a proposal that would work for both teams, or did you just decide that name-calling was a more mature response? How about this: if the Reds considered trading Freel to the Cubs, what do you think would be fair value in return?

And for the record, i spent most of my childhood in small-market hayseed Indiana.

The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 12:26 AM CST reply actions  

One more thing...
as i said in the comments below that diary, i want to thank you for your compliment. I am a typical Cubs fan, and am proud to be one. However, being one isn't what you insinuate it is. This is what it means to be a typical Cubs fan.

And that's the last i'll have to say on the matter of me being a "typical Cubs fan." If you want to discuss the merits of any particular Cubs-Reds deal, i'm game. If you want to tell me i'm an arrogant city boy, it'll be a one-way discussion from here on in...

The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 12:35 AM CST reply actions  

Wow!
You've gotta be the only dude in Chi with no sense of humor. That post was dripping with sarcasm. Sparkles got it.

FYI, the ";)" at the end of the post is supposed to indicate a light-heartedness to the post. I'm sorry, I figured you'd see the humor. I suppose I was trying to add a little levity to a suddenly un-funny thread. Anytime JD has to come down with the mod gloves on, it's time to re-read some posts. I would have to say ALL of US could have used a bit more maturity in our posts, and if you can't admit that yourself by re-reading some of your stuff, then my mental image conjured by the above rant of a 15yr. old neglected kid that loves the protagonist role on blogs would be correct.

My wife's family works for United. I'm from Dayton, but spend a fair amount of time in Hoffman Estates and downtwn proper. I love Cubs fans. They are very similar to Reds fans. Used to being disappointed, but love the game and it's tradition even more for it.

I would geuss that if I wandered over to this blog as a Reds fan, and used the slightest condescension(which I would expect being in "enemy" territory) to begin a pissing match, how could I, as a logical adult, not see the inevitable end result.

Anyway, we'll give you Freel for Walker straight up, if he comes with a Portillos franchise to put at GABP, so all the goofs around here could learn  to stop putting  ketchup on their dogs. I've seen the light and I'm trying to spread the word, but Buckeyes have some nasty ingrained habbits.

Just a Reds fan stopping by.....

by sukr on Feb 11, 2006 2:28 AM CST reply actions  

cool...
My bad. I was a little over-defensive after getting reamed for being a "typical Cubs fan" in that other thread - and i may be wrong but i think the criticism i was getting in your neck of the woods wasn't just sarcasm. Once i was in the mode of defending myself from serious attacks, i just didn't catch the humor. That and i worked far far too long for a Friday.

Next Friday, i'm gonna fix all this by not working through happy hour...

And maybe my priorities are all messed up but i hate mustard and drown my hotdogs in ketchup. In that i truly fail at being a "typical Cubs fan." <hangs head in shame>

The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

nice tag....
;-)
The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Disappointment
I'd sure like to be disappointed by having won three world championships in the last 30 years.

by gauchodirk on Feb 13, 2006 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

There is absolutely nothing wrong ...
... with putting ketchup on a hot dog. Ketchup and onions is the only way to go. Now mustard -- that's where I draw the line. And don't even get me started on people who put mayonaisse on a dog. ... :)

by mshayes00 on Feb 11, 2006 8:35 AM CST reply actions  

Hot dogs + carmelized onions =
CRAZY DELICIOUS!
The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Yum!
They serve(d) those on the stand on the bleacher ramp. Love those.

Of course, who knows if that stand will be back in the new bleachers.

by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2006 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

next poll question?
Al,

Maybe the next poll question could be something along the lines of what everyone's favorite hot dog topping is...

The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

OK...
... why not? I've been looking for a new poll idea.

Got a list I can put on the poll? List them here and I'll create a poll.

Incidentally, in the current poll, 49% of all respondents said the Cubs would make the playoffs this year (either by finishing first or winning the wild card).

by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2006 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i'll give it a shot...
ketchup
mustard
bbq sauce
chili
cheese
stadium sauce
relish
tomatoes
onions
peppers
seasoned salt
the works

I don't know what else should go on the list...

The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

i almost forgot...
sauerkraut
The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you tried...
cole-slaw on a dog? Add it to the list. I recently took a trip down the Kentucky with a friend to meet his "kin", most of the way down we stopped at a hole in the wall for what were called slaw dogs. I was blown away by how good they were. BTW, the trip ended up being the most amusing one I've taken in recent memory.

For 25+ years I ketchupped my dogs. It now makes me sick. I think it's odd how good the celery salt tastes on a true Chicago dog. I found a place in Dayton that sells Vienna Beef dogs, and about fell over I was so happy. They haven't got the ingredients quite right, but they use the celery salt and it's VIENNA BEEF!!!

Just a Reds fan stopping by.....

by sukr on Feb 11, 2006 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

yes on the cole slaw...
there's a place here in State College, PA (another reason to knock on me if you're from OH) that puts cole slaw on their dogs. I think one of their dogs has cole slaw and chili - and its damn good. I think they call that one "texas style" but i'd have to check to be sure...
The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Ketchup on a sausage.........
.........is just like the Cubs blue uniforms.

There's no place for it.  Period.

by tville on Feb 11, 2006 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

MIke Royko put it best
"I won't condemn anyone for putting ketchup on a hot dog. This is the land of the free. And if someone wants to put ketchup on a hot dog and actually eat the awful thing, that is their right.

It is also their right to put mayo or chocolate syrup or toenail clippings or cat hair on a hot dog.

Sure, it would be disgusting and perverted, and they would be shaming themselves and their loved ones. But under our system of government, it is their right to be barbarians."

All wil be fixed in 2006

by DSZ on Feb 11, 2006 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Ketchup on a hot dog?
That's absolute crazy talk.

by greggie44 on Feb 11, 2006 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Not that
This is a large deal but Freel was arrested for a DUI for the 2nd time in 3 years. How will this affect the way the Reds look at him

Second of all Freel has no position as of this second.

1b-Dunn
2b- Lopez
SS Aurilla/Freel
3b- Encarnacion/Freel
LF Pena
CF Griffey
RF Kearns/Freel

So as you can see Freel is sort of like the 10th man.  Its possible he gets dealt.  I do not see him being worth Todd Walker AND J Will.  I would say a more reasonable offer would be Walk and a minor leaguer.  Would have to be a top 20 guy though anyway my thoughts :)

by cubsfan2883 on Feb 11, 2006 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

Ketchup on Hotdogs?
Not sure what this has to do with anything.  I've never figured out Chicagoans' aversion to ketchup on hot dogs.  Do you use pickle relish on your fries too?  I've always loved ketchup.  I've used it on fries, burgers, steak and hotdogs.  Heck, when I was a kid I would eat ketchup sandwiches.  Easier and less messy than making PB&J's.  I used to use ketchup in bologna and cheese sandwiches.

My kids like to use ketchup on scrambled eggs.  When younger, one of my cousins used to mix ketchup in cottage cheese.  Now the sight of that concoction tended to make me ill, but I wasn't the guy eating it.

Maybe Heinz can come out with a yellow ketchup so we can fool you purists into thinking we're having mustards with our 'dogs' instead of ketchup!!!! ;-)

Frank

by FrankSereno on Feb 11, 2006 12:33 PM CST reply actions  

Sugar
That's why kids love ketchup and it's no good on a hot dog.  Ketchup is full of sugar which results in it overwhelming rather than complementing the hot dog.
All wil be fixed in 2006

by DSZ on Feb 11, 2006 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe that's a good thing?
Considering what many of today's dogs taste like when eaten plain, maybe the ketchup isn't such a bad idea.

Anyway, if you want to give some kids a real sugar rush, give them a peanut butter and marshmallow creme sandwich.  It's messy to make and eat, it's full of fats and sugars, but damn it tastes great!

Frank

by FrankSereno on Feb 12, 2006 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Ewww!
Cottage cheese and ketchup?? Yuck.  

I used to put ketchup on my scrambled eggs, and now I mostly just eat it with fries. My cousin put ketchup on everything he ate when he was little, and it's possible he still does.

Cubbie Blue always sPaRkLes in my eyes. Time to sPaRkLe Jimmy!

by sparkles721 on Feb 11, 2006 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Miller Park
If you have ever been to miller park, they smother ketchup on everything. That and the "stadium sauce." Not sure what it is. didn't wanna know. I just avoided it at all costs.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Feb 11, 2006 2:40 PM CST reply actions  

You didn't try...
... the Secret Stadium Sauce?

<mock horror!>

It's a barbecue sauce, their specialty. Try it next time.

by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2006 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

could this winter be any longer?
while figuring my taxes to send to the feds,
i check out a diary concerning the reds.
a team with a traffic jam at the second base spot,
same as the cubs- give ya 10 bucks for the lot.
goldman the cub fan proposes a trade,
red fans so angry they need to invade.
so let's get it over- send 'em walker for freel,
and then let's have ketchup for every damn meal.

by dc60123 @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Feb 11, 2006 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

Now THIS...
... could have been a diary all by itself. Brilliant!

by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2006 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

wow...
that was fantastic!
The Cubs will thrive in twenty-oh-five... or sometime thereafter!

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 11, 2006 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

And don't forget ...
... those that like to put mayo on their french fries. It's a European thing.

by mshayes00 on Feb 12, 2006 1:31 PM CST reply actions  

man
i miss good Chicago pizza and a good Chicago hot dog.
2006 -- AC036097 -- Eamus Catuli!

by priorpwnz on Feb 12, 2006 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

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