Open Thread: Cubs vs. Marlins, Tuesday 5/23, 6:05 CT

by Al on May 23, 2006 4:01 PM CDT in Game Threads Comment 208 comments

This picture of tonight's Marlins starter, Scott Olsen, is almost as bad as the photo of last night's Marlins pitcher, Ricky Nolasco.

Either the Marlins have ugly pitchers, or a bad photographer.

Today's Starting Pitchers


K. Wood Cubs	vs.	S. Olsen Marlins


0-1	W-L	2-3
7.20	ERA	6.55
6	SO	30
0	BB	23
3	HR	4
vs. Fla	--	vs. Cubs

Even though Kerry Wood has been around for several seasons, he's only faced four current Marlins: Miguel Cabrera (4-for-12), Wes Helms (4-for-9), Miguel Olivo (0-for-1), and Olsen, who faced him last year. Yes, that game, the one where Adam Greenberg made his memorable debut.

Just once. JUST ONCE, when the Cubs face a pitcher with the sort of control problems Olsen has (23 BB in 34 IP), maybe they could actually take a few pitches. Just this once? Olsen's lefthanded -- so maybe, just maybe, Dusty will sit Jacque Jones again. Except, of course, there's that HR he hit against lefty Neal Cotts on Sunday. Oh, well.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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The nice thing about the '06 Cubs...

is if you were put in suspended animation in 2002, you'd feel right at home with the performance of this years team.

Languishing in Card Country.

by evillecubman on May 23, 2006 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Taking pitches

Yes! Please...

AC036198 Fire Dusty. Please.

by gjdow on May 23, 2006 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This team is worse than '02

And why do I feel taht we've been prepped for a Wood-implosion based on his 'sore shoulder' reports?

Besides the obvious - Go Irish.

by PopeFlick on May 23, 2006 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

One thing

You can count on. Kerry Wood will try to throw harder and maybe with a different arm angle due to the sore shoulder. Suck it up and be a man, you know. Maybe we can get another Tommy John surgery out of tonight.

Man does it suck to be a Cubs fan...and yet I love it. I would be right at home as a 17th century self-flagillating monk.

by Archie on May 23, 2006 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You mean...

... sort of like this?

by Al on May 23, 2006 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are those monk's or Jawa's from Star Wars?

It will happen...someday!

by bergs55 on May 23, 2006 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, c'mon.

Those are the head-smashing monks from "Monty Python & the Holy Grail." You didn't recognize them?

by Al on May 23, 2006 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Scratch the game....

...two batters, two walks. I'm watching the movie. Thanks Al for reminding me of it.

Bring out yer dead! Bring out yer dead! (Damn, it just hit me sort of like the monks hitting their heads) He's talking about the Cubs!

"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 23, 2006 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jones not starting?

You don't really think Dusty Baker would sit Jones after his HR Sunday, do you? That bought him more playing time as he is starting tonight.

by Ernieboy on May 23, 2006 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lineup

Cubs
Pierre, CF
Hairston, 2B
Walker, 1B
Barrett, C
Ramirez, 3B
Murton, LF
Jones, RF
Cedeno, SS
Wood, P

by Ernieboy on May 23, 2006 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Huzzah!

Murton is finally out of that 8th spot.

by VS on May 23, 2006 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheez.

The Cubs did pretty well with him hitting 2nd. Why can't Baker see that?

And expect an 0-for-4 from Jones. <sigh>

by Al on May 23, 2006 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well Hairston is 2/5 against Olsen

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We can hope

JJ last 7 games:

.348/.400/.522

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hairston could have played RF...

... with Theriot at 2B.

No, wait, that'd have made too much sense.

by Al on May 23, 2006 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Theriot..

Al.. you seem to have a wee-bit of a mancrush on Theriot.

Everytime I have watched Theriot bat he seems to be badly overmatched..

What are you substantiating your Theriot thing on?

He seems just like an average minor leaguer utility player.

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just so you know..

having a mancrush isn't a bad thing.. I personally have one on Travis Hafner from the Indians.. who I cannot seem to acquire in my real gm :(

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All I'm saying is...

... that if Walker is playing 1B, the options at 2B are:

Perez
Hairston
Theriot

Who would YOU pick?

And death is not an option.

by Al on May 23, 2006 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

tony womack

he's too legit to quit

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes,

this is a fate worse than death lol....

by LT on May 23, 2006 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well,

I think we all know by now that Dusty ain't platooning JJ come hell or a new Cubs May record for futility, but yikes, let's not get started on that slippery BLOG slope.

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree on Murton's spot...

Yes, I thought they were seeing the OBP light when they hit him second previously, but who can explain anything now? With Pierre off to such a bad start and Lee out, and Walker moved down, we could definitely use a decent OBP in that 2 spot. As it is, we are giving away too many outs...

Did you see the line on today's game? The Marlins had 6 hits and yet left 15 on base, they had 9 BBs...Please Hednry and Dusty take note, when building the offense for next season acquire hitters with plate discipline and who have reasonable walk rates...

by DudeVf1 on May 24, 2006 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not a good

line up, but considering who's on the roster Dusty did o.k. with this one. I'd like to see Jacque sit, but if Dusty did that he'd play Niefi so I'm not too upset by it.

Replace the ivy with hemlock

by jc60625 on May 23, 2006 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bad S. Olsen link

FWIW Al, your S.Olsen link above goes to Yahoo Sports' Ramon Ortiz webpage, the Washington National pitcher you recall who received his first victory of the year courtesy of OUR Chicago Cubs.

Hope you're not predicting a similar W for Mr. Olsen.

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Updated Link

Scott Olsen

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I fixed the link...

... sorry for the error!

by Al on May 23, 2006 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How come

you didn't get the picture of Scott Olsen with the black eye?

Sounds like Randy Messenger wanted to beat Michael Barrett to the punch. :-)

by Josh77 on May 23, 2006 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

By the way..

Craig from Fishstripes gave you a shout out in his Game write-up.. Might want to add a little flavor to it.

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

todays song

and a fitting one is

"A change is gonna come" By Sam Cooke

go cubs

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oohhhh

that's a great one.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico!"--Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on May 23, 2006 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

tonights Cheap beer of choice..

Coors Lite and Tositos..

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ugh 1-2-3..

Pierre grounds out to Olsen

Hairston K's swinging

Walker grounds out to Uggla

1- 2-3

0 hits 0 runs 0 errors

Cubs 0 Fins 0

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Pretty good throw by Barrett

but Ramirez sneaks in

by VS on May 23, 2006 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

2

back to back walks

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wood needs to Simma down

back to back BB's

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wood

is all over the place

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He is.. but thats a huge out..

Cabrera pops out to Walk in foul territory

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He's setting up the triple play ball!

(joke)

by baturkey on May 23, 2006 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

19 pitches

12 balls
7 strikes

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Willingham pops out to JHJ

Not bad.. 2 solid outs.. lets get the last

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

what makes

me cringe is how again and again we let their pitchers have 9 pitch innings-- and they are pitchers like scott olsen

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree completely

I don't know the stats, but i'd bet no team has had more CGs pitched against them than us......and that's why. It seems like we never see the other team's long man in the pen, but ours are voerworked and overexposed (and usually underperforming).

by cubrandy on May 23, 2006 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beer Per Inning Challenge..

Because I don;t want anyone to get hurt.. Everoyne should drink a beer per inning..

If the entire Innning finishes you have to finish the rest of your beer..

A modification of the Cubs drinking game :)

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ok! :)

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 23, 2006 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol ..I will drink one for you Sparkles :)

2 beers per inning boy the Cubs better start hitting fast

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

on second thought..

I cannot do a beer every half inning.. sorry sparkles... I will drink half of the one for you and half for me..

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come on...

I bet I could do that.

Just kidding! I don't know how to drink.

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 23, 2006 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't start..

You're a young impressionable person.. Don't drink until you are 21.. and if you happen to drink in college like a lot of people do .. be safe.. always go in with two ways of getting home..

Anyhow this poor plate patience is killing me.. I got a 3/4 full beer and two outs in the 3rd.. BLAH

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone remind me again

how on God's green Earth is Blanco going to replace Barrett?

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 6:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

UUUmmmm....

...by sucker punching the other team's best hitter? I dunno...

by DudeVf1 on May 24, 2006 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good lord...

what was Ramirez swinging at?

by VS on May 23, 2006 6:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the ground

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cmon Jacque

hope he remembers this guy's averaging 6 walks per nine...pick a good one!

by cubrandy on May 23, 2006 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

smell a DP?

n/t

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wow 3 batters

and nobody has been able to move a guy in from 3rd

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Murton may be struggling

but at least he usually has a clue at the plate. Unlike a few others I won't mention.

by BringBackRyno on May 23, 2006 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ill take 9 Matt Murton's thank you

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

im thinking

yes it is time to fire dusty- other announcers are starting to point out how our team doesnt do the little things right

its time for a new voice i think

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bad Karma

Cedeno just did something right base hit to CF

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I volunteer...

..if the Cubs will let me manage the team from this Blog then I volunteer to take Dusty's Place for the minimum salary paid to a major league player...I'll post the lineups daily here, and require an assistant to work the laptop in the dugout so that all my decisions are made in real time during the game...This blog can have a contest with the winner being my dugout bench geek...My first decision as Blog Manager is to put the names back on the uniforms...Perez and Bynum might as well pack their bags, they'll never get in the game on my Blog Watch...

by DudeVf1 on May 24, 2006 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does any team

waste more leadoff doubles and triples??

by cubsbak on May 23, 2006 6:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

only the terrible ones

KC, Pittsburgh

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the kids are alright

murton walks, cedeno singles barret in

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 6:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wood

Can we bat him cleanup?

by grifdog on May 23, 2006 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Finally...

an RBI w/ 2 outs!

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Go Woody!

He can hit!

Good job by Ronny too.

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 23, 2006 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank You Ronnie

and I'm watching on GameDay....di JJ look as horrible as I'm guessing in his K?

by cubrandy on May 23, 2006 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes

He did.

by Josh77 on May 23, 2006 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wood singles

Murton's in 2-0

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

TWO

RBIs with 2 outs!

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm so glad....

....we have to rely on rookies and pitchers to score runs.

This team is SOLID.

Besides the obvious - Go Irish.

by PopeFlick on May 23, 2006 6:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Woo Barrett

Got the hard ones out of the way.

by grifdog on May 23, 2006 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Also note

Barrett has as many hits in this game as Blanco does all year.

by grifdog on May 23, 2006 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He'll snap out of it Blanco will

he's a better hitter than that. He's hit alot of solid line drives. Maybe he'll call a better game than MB

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Olsen's a Chicago kid?

The FL announcers said he was in the street during Game 6 of the 2003 NLCS

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He was born in MI

kalamazoo

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Olsen...

... grew up in Crystal Lake... this was discussed at length in this diary last month. Olsen grew up a Cub fan, and indeed was in the mob on the street outside the ballpark for NLCS game 6 in 2003.

by Al on May 23, 2006 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

now that's a cheap run

a walk on strike 2
a stolen base
went to third on a fly ball
scored on a deep fly

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

its what Pierres should do

HOLY CRAP MURTON GOES YARD TO RF...weeee

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

murton

showing some power

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hey Matt!

first HR in over a month!

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

W00t

Orange Guy with an opposite field homer!

by VS on May 23, 2006 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Jacque Jones looks stupid

..wow.. bring in Ryan Theriot..

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

JJ is awful

against lefties

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 7:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather see...

... Henry Blanco in RF than Jones vs. a LHP.

by Al on May 23, 2006 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

God he is

The surprising thing is that Jones has been a real asset versus right handers--.357 OBP and a .896 OPS. But boy oh boy you'd be better sticking Zambrano in right against a lefty--.136 OBP and a .374 OBP--and that doesn't count his incompetence today.

by Josh77 on May 23, 2006 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That should be

.374 OPS.

by Josh77 on May 23, 2006 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha

Wood drives one to the deepest part of the field.

by VS on May 23, 2006 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It would be out

in most other parks

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably, yea

by VS on May 23, 2006 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone notice

Felix Pie went 5 for 6 today?

by Josh77 on May 23, 2006 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The Cubs plate patience

has gotten me quite drunk after 4 Innings...

4 beers in 1 hr.. 15 minutes per Beer..

thats a solid brisk pace..

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Re

Rookie.

Visit The Digital Gazette

by Jed Taylor on May 23, 2006 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You missed the part..

where I said a beer every inning :) didn't you?

After I did that for 4 IP I went out and dug up a tree with my mom and planted it in our back yard...

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

MLB.TV and the Cubs have.....

....a lot in common. They rarely perform as the paying customer would like.

"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 23, 2006 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Getting an overseas phone call

kind of echo on the video feed.

Go Cubbies! Pay Baseaball! - Liam, my 2 1/2 yr. old

by stelmodad on May 23, 2006 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am not sure

I am in optimum condition to post.. But I will refuse to regret any lapse in judgement I have from the 5th Inning on

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL

I couldn't spell out a post at that pace. Impressive.

by cubrandy on May 23, 2006 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

heh . thank you barrett

he needs tou foul out about 4 more of these..

by cubsfan2883 on May 23, 2006 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe we can trade..

..Pierre back to the Marlins for Hanley Ramirez

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 23, 2006 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Joe Girardi

I am watching MLBTV. Anyone else see how Girardi pulled the pitcher into the tunnel and ripped him a new one after he gave up the homer to Barrett. Then when he is 1-2 on Barrett the next at bat, Girardi goes out there and says I guess, "You better not do it again". Then strikes him out. I wish out manager would do stuff like that!

by wrigley on May 23, 2006 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wishful thinking

we are stuck with dummy, and dummy's supporters here on bcb.
remember, it's not dummy at bat, it's not dummy pitching, and dont fault dummy for any mistakes the players might make, mental or physical.
be a nice TRUE DIE HARD FAN and love them no matter how bad they play.

wheatfield mike down here in god's country

by wheatfield mike on May 23, 2006 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Darn

Cabrera with a 2-run homer.

by VS on May 23, 2006 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

3 runs on 2 hits

Those darn walks again

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yusmeiro Petit

this is his fifth inning of major league work.

Go Cubbies! Pay Baseaball! - Liam, my 2 1/2 yr. old

by stelmodad on May 23, 2006 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

and he played for the

Albuquerque Isotopes

Go Cubbies! Pay Baseaball! - Liam, my 2 1/2 yr. old

by stelmodad on May 23, 2006 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Cedeno gets a hit....

...the Cubs will have a .290 hitter! Hooo-ray!

"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 23, 2006 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ohman in to pitch

Woody - 5ip, 2h, 3er, 5BB, 3SO

Those walks hurt him yet again but a good start overall.

by VS on May 23, 2006 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Almost..

..a quality start. Wood is freaky..0BB/4ER last start, 5BB and 3ER tonight.

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 23, 2006 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How does JHJ not make that play?

Seemed like he took forever to get to the ball then rushed to throw out a guy who was halfway up the line.

by grifdog on May 23, 2006 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Al....

...that was a series of very nice gestures you made over at 1060. Props to you!!

"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 23, 2006 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks...

... now, let's see if they're willing to take the proferred olive branch.

by Al on May 23, 2006 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, well.

Went back there and found blathering pop psychology in exchange for my olive branch, found myself called "debased and destructive", and told that I "couldn't understand".

I tried.

by Al on May 23, 2006 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I defended you

n/t

by Santos Sorrow on May 23, 2006 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get somebody that can throw strikes

They're out there, I've seen them.

by grifdog on May 23, 2006 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You want stats?

I'll give you stats
Cubs give up the most walks, yet they walk the least. Put that in your pipe and smoke it

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That says it all

You don't have a chance when you give up that many more free baserunners than you get.

by cubsbak on May 23, 2006 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What do you expect?

Dusty hates for our batters to clog up the basepaths with walks. It is only natural that he would want Cub pitchers to clog up the basepaths by walking opposition hitters.

"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 23, 2006 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pierre got squeezed

that was ball 3 Bruce.

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ronny should've had that

That's the ultimate disrespect, going from 1st to 2nd on a routine flyout.

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't know about "ultimate"...

... but yes, Cedeno should have made that play.

by Al on May 23, 2006 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, they got 4 runs

we can't expect more, now can we.

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I suppose

it's too much to ask for the Cubs offense to score more than 4 runs. The bullpen better hold up.

by cubsbak on May 23, 2006 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This Logan guy's numbers are terrible

Cubs have to get some insurance.

by cubsbak on May 23, 2006 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Guess which team

Team 1
1 BB 10 Ks

Team 2
7 BBs 7 Ks

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

make that

Team 1
1 BB 11 Ks

Team 2
7 BBs 7 Ks

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And weirdly...

... team 1 is winning.

by Al on May 23, 2006 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because

they weren't clogging the bases.

Replace the ivy with hemlock

by jc60625 on May 23, 2006 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

make that

Team 1
1 BB 12 Ks

Team 2
7 BBs 7 Ks

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bynum

At least Dusty can't pinch hit Bynum in this situation.

I want my Macias!

by wombat on May 23, 2006 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

YEAHBut

he can replace Murton with him.

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Except that

Bynumb already pinch hit in the 7th.

Replace the ivy with hemlock

by jc60625 on May 23, 2006 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep - Dusty's Numero Uno Guy!

I want my Macias!

by wombat on May 23, 2006 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oops!

never mind my stupid ass comment then

by JFCubFan on May 23, 2006 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What comment?

Replace the ivy with hemlock

by jc60625 on May 23, 2006 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The pitcher's almost irrelevant

The Cubs get themselves out. Just awful

by cubsbak on May 23, 2006 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Strap em down

here we go...

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea West!!!

Dusty - now is the time to put in Neifi!!! <snark>

I want my Macias!

by wombat on May 23, 2006 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Go Ryan - save this game

I want my Macias!

by wombat on May 23, 2006 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So ridiculous

more walks

by grifdog on May 23, 2006 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

omg

is cumdumpster going to lose this for us??? HOLY CRAP IT CAN GET WORSE

by dtpollitt on May 23, 2006 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

walker

saves the game so far

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Todd Walker

Thank you good sir, thank you.

by VicVega on May 23, 2006 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

WOW

That play was most Un-Cub like -Props to T-Dubbs

To Bleed or Not to Bleed?

by TheRamZamDLEE on May 23, 2006 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Arrgh!

Just got home from the Nats game, and was under the impression from OOT scoreboard that everything was under control.

It just never ends ....

by 08Cubs on May 23, 2006 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Walker = Worst. Defender. Ever

by VS on May 23, 2006 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

jking right

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Of course! :)

by VS on May 23, 2006 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cubs lose

1000 walks in a game hurts.

by grifdog on May 23, 2006 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ugh!!

It's less bad when they get blown out.

Replace the ivy with hemlock

by jc60625 on May 23, 2006 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

shit

blown save cubs lose

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 23, 2006 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

and that's why Dempster....

....has been cut from my fantasy team

There are three things that the average man thinks he can do better than anybody else. Build a fire, run a hotel and manage a baseball team. -Rocky Bridges

by Jobu on May 23, 2006 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Man

^%&^%&^%&$^%$^&$#%$#@^%$$&*^) the cubs.

This team makes me depressed too often this year.

by VicVega on May 23, 2006 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That's

More like the Cubs! Wonder if Dempster will blame this one on Mike North?

To Bleed or Not to Bleed?

by TheRamZamDLEE on May 23, 2006 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If they get swept

by the fish does someone get fired? What will it take? Who takes responsibility for this mess?

by cubsbak on May 23, 2006 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Doubtful

By all accounts Hendry is just waiting to extend Baker.

by jolietconvict on May 23, 2006 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont think that'll happen

It will require a winning streak and that is something this team in incapable of.

by Santos Sorrow on May 23, 2006 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wait

it says on my MLB GAMECAST that only one run scored?

by dtpollitt on May 23, 2006 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It was a 2-run single

by VS on May 23, 2006 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And only

a single because Jacobs stopped running when the winning run scored. That would have cleared the bases had the Cubs been up 2.

Replace the ivy with hemlock

by jc60625 on May 23, 2006 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

MLB Gamecast

must be playing a cruel joke.

Replace the ivy with hemlock

by jc60625 on May 23, 2006 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well it's official

that was sickening, good night.

...the artist formerly priorpwnz.

by Faith plus 1 on May 23, 2006 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fish 0-24 when trailing...

....after 8 innings, before tonight.

"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 23, 2006 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Incredible

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 23, 2006 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

shovel

the shovel we are using to dig our own graves must be getting longer.

by dtpollitt on May 23, 2006 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You know, I don't have any stats on this...

but Woody has to be one of the unluckiest pitchers around. The bullpen has blown the lead for him many times, especially in 03.

by VS on May 23, 2006 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Woody hardly deserved to win

not the way he pitched.

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

for sure

walk people with a lead and you deserve whatever happens.

by BringBackRyno on May 23, 2006 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah that 2 hitter sucked

n/t

by Santos Sorrow on May 23, 2006 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

jacque jones

0-4, 3 Ks.
Way to know your players Dusty.

Pitchers: 9 walks. 3 of their 5 runs were directly caused by the walks.
Nice job with the pitching staff Rothschild.

Batters: 12 strikeouts, 1 walk. Nice approach at the plate, Clines.

Can we fire everyone now?

by tomas21 on May 23, 2006 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Same as always

Cubs would go up early, stop scoring, and then the bullpen would blow it. We thought we aere through with that, but I guess not.

Can we blame Dusty for not giving Demp any work?

by CubFaninNY on May 23, 2006 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

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"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

by The Jade Scorpion on May 23, 2006 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I am so...

tired of this losing!!!!!

Why do we have to f*ck up everything...

even against the marlins!

Git 'er done!

by KChiCubs on May 23, 2006 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Had to register can't take it!

Was THAT YEAR supposed to be our year? Was that our one shot for the next how many? I am tired of this not scoring/lineups?/pitching/hitting/baserunning/covering bases, etc..... I'm ready for dusty to go but he's not the only one! I love the Cubs but I am tired of this! I've been wanting to take a trip up to a game this year but tell me why I should. Florida for be darned! I hope we did not miss our shot because of Dr. Dusty.

by draftday on May 23, 2006 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Welcome to BCB..

..sounds like you will fit in quite nicely.

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 23, 2006 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wouldn't guarantee it

"I've been wanting to take a trip up to a game this year but tell me why I should."

Even if he is right.

by mike bornemann on May 23, 2006 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ron Santo suicide watch

Poor Ronny. He couldn't even talk when the Marlins won this one, and Pat had to finish it out by himself. When they came back for the post game, it was all Santo could do to speak.

He so badly wants the Cubs to do well, and as hard as this season has been on Cubs Nation, it's got to be 10 times as hard on him. Tomorrow is promised to no one, but Ronny's running out of time, and a night like this only makes it shorter.

One more against the Fish, and then a day off before coming home. Is there any chance Thursday will bring a shakeup? I really (seriously) question whether Santo's health, both physically and emotionally, can withstand a full season of this.

Visit The Digital Gazette

by Jed Taylor on May 23, 2006 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

poor Ronny. I feel horrible for him. Does he go scream at Jim Hendry for this?

They have to stop this. This is killing Ronny, me, and every Cubs fan.

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 23, 2006 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In Response to Jed's Post

Seriously.....I'm 47, and have been a concious Cub's Fan since the mid-sixties when i was in grade school. I love Ron Santo, and I feel for him. I know how painful it is for me (and Al....I'll never stop being a Cub fan), but I worry about how much it pulls him down.

by cubrandy on May 24, 2006 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The losses hurt...

..but it also sounds like Santo loves what he does. he always comes across as genuine to me...Hopefully the Cubs' management monitors his health closely through the season. There were a couple trips near in the past seasons when he did not go with the team...

by DudeVf1 on May 24, 2006 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not just Ronny..

..but Earnie Banks too. You know nothing would make that old Cub happier. Damned enough that Harry is gonna miss the party.

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 23, 2006 10:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I miss Harry

and harry and stoney, and Royko too....

by draftday on May 23, 2006 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

and STONEY!!!!

Stoney should still be in the booth if not for one vindictive and petty Johnny B. Jackass...

by DudeVf1 on May 24, 2006 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harry...

was a drunken traitor. Take me out to the ballgame started at Sox park.

by mjc on May 23, 2006 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I miss Harry and Jimmy

Thems was the good ol days.

by MattThorton on May 23, 2006 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and since you mention it

The tradtion you speak of started when Harry used to lead the crowd in front of his booth. He was singing for a while but with his mike off. He just waved it around like a batton. Someone got the bright idea to turn it on and the rest as they say is history. For all I know he was half in the bag and decided to do it himself.

You can't call him a traitor becasue he was run off by the new 'no more riff raff' ownership.

by MattThorton on May 23, 2006 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So?

Everyone in Cleveland would tell you Aviation began in Ohio. It doesn't matter where it came from, every stadium uses it.

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 23, 2006 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

stone

In "Where's Harry" told quite a different story as far as the drunkeness goes. He was the ultimate slaesman, part of that was selling his "love" for a team. I have a hard time thinking his loyalties ran far from his home towm Cardinals.

by mike bornemann on May 23, 2006 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's right...

"He was the ultimate slaesman, part of that was selling his "love" for a team. I have a hard time thinking his loyalties ran far from his home towm Cardinals."

I fully agree.

by DrCrawdad on May 23, 2006 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I slightly

disagree. Harry didn't really have any loyalty to the Cardinals, at least not after they fired him.

Harry had a loyalty to whomever was paying his paycheck and to the fans that paid for that paycheck. His loyalty was never to any team. His loyalty was to baseball fans and his paycheck--and no, the two things were not mutually exclusive.

by Josh77 on May 24, 2006 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re

Well, that's what happens when you boink the owner's wife.

Visit The Digital Gazette

by Jed Taylor on May 24, 2006 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harry was the best!

as a young boy i had the brick to tell me how hard the cubs played, and what a great game it was, and to tune in tomarrow for exciting cubs baseball!!! of course we had just lost for the umpteenth time. [kingman went deep though]
then harry arrived, and i was really missing the brick, i was used to the excuses and soothing commentary to make me feel better after all the loses. now this new guy isn't just taking it and sitting down, he makes noises and doesnt believe its ok to just love the losing. and the other new guy, this stone guy comes along, and he's telling me how real baseball plays should be...
a few more years go by and i'm out of high school. harry and stoney have shown me a new way of looking at baseball...but what about the old days of the brick....
WAIT!!! THEY ARE HERE NOW!!!! THE CUBS SUCK LIKE THE CUBS OF OLD!!!! and i have a new brick to make me feel good again!!
IT'S AL!!!
bless you al, you are my new jack brickhouse, you seem to be a very nice guy, and the cubs can do no wrong.
i'm going to keep reading and posting here, but i'll go to 1060 when i want some realism on my beloved cubs.
reminder to those going to this saturdays game, protest in front of wrigley at 11:30 am. bring your sign.

wheatfield mike down here in god's country

by wheatfield mike on May 23, 2006 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Cubs...

owe it to the old guys like Ron and Ernie... those guys are the biggest cubfans out there, they deserve a WS...

I have being a Cubs fan...

Git 'er done!

by KChiCubs on May 23, 2006 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That's supposed to say:

I HATE being a cubs fan

Git 'er done!

by KChiCubs on May 23, 2006 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We know..

..whathca meant. After all, we are Cub fans too.

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 23, 2006 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If this continues...

I might just decide to run away to my aunt in Europe.

This sucks.

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 23, 2006 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm...

..well, I hope you like soccer.

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 23, 2006 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do.

My dad loves soccer, and I like to watch it with him.

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 24, 2006 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Done. So Long 2006

Well, I'm officially finished caring about this team. Nothing good can come from following the Cubs this year unless you think an ulcer or high blood pressure are good things. As hard as this will be I am going to delete all my Cub related bookmarks, stop wearing my Tribune enabling merchandise and do my best to stop following baseball all together this year. Thank you Mr. Hendry. I've been following this team religiously since 1990 and you've finally made me sick enough to try and give up my Cubs addiction. I truly will be "waiting 'till next year" or at least until football season starts.

Oh, and for all you "a real fan wouldn't stop watching" morons. There is a difference between being a fan and a masochist.

by kinglerxst on May 23, 2006 11:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

CALM DOWN, GUYS.

CALM DOWN. JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES FOR A SECOND. CLOSE YOUR EYES. HEY! CLOSE YOUR EYES. JUST CALM DOWN. CALM DOWN. BREATHE A LITTLE BIT, COME ON, BREATHE. JUST CALM DOWN. HEY YOU IN THE BACK, CALM DOWN. YOU CAN DO IT. JUST CALM DOWN.

...right downtown and PRINT IT!!!

by CliffX on May 23, 2006 11:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wood will punch Dempster in the jaw...

...and then complain that his knuckles hurt.

by baturkey on May 23, 2006 11:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Just to add a little insult to injury

Corey Patterson was 3-3 tonight with 2 walks (more than the entire cubs lineup tonight) he hit a homerun and has his average at .306 on the year!! Oh yeah and he just stole his 15th base. Why is it when someone has on a cubs uniform they completely suck and as soon as they take it off it seems they are completely cured?

by RB on May 24, 2006 12:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good for Corey...

..It's amazing what one can do when they stop trying to make you do what you can't do...

by DudeVf1 on May 24, 2006 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know

it can't be the coaching.

Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on May 24, 2006 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cub announcers

I found it hard to believe they were discussing weather Murton made the right move in taking pitches when he drew the Cubs only walk of the night( of course he ended up scoring). Maybe they were trying to suggest Murton would be in trouble with Dusty for not going out of the strike zone to drive in a run. I have had it with these two bozo's because not only do they refuse to point out obvious weaknesses in the team they are out of towners with no emotional ties to the Cubs.

by jimhickman on May 24, 2006 6:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wasn't watching

but I know I have had times where I wish Murton or Barrett would swing the bat, just because I had no faith in the person behind them doing anything useful. Nothing that says they were pointing to that theory though.

by mike bornemann on May 24, 2006 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cubs Security and Ball Thrower...

This is from Sullivan's article in the tribune today, sure to be followed by another profanity laced tirade from McPhail...Has McPhail called in any of his sorry players, GM, and Manager to tell them what a horsecrap job they are doing? Anyway, if the Cubs are so hush about this thing it's probably because the woman is a Tribune's executive offspring--what a classy bunch, or McPhail learned his lessons from trying to covering up the concrete that was falling o heads at Wrigley Stadium, work harder on your cover up...He's a creep!

[[[[[Cubs security officials were ordered to keep quiet, and to this day no one knows why a fan was able to throw a baseball at a player and not be held accountable for her action. Baker's explanation that the fan was simply drunk and oblivious--unable to distinguish the difference between throwing back an opponent's home run ball and throwing a ball at a Cubs player--was particularly weak.]]]]]

by DudeVf1 on May 24, 2006 8:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs