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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Braves, Friday 5/26, 1:20 CT

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Suspensions were announced today for last week's brawl. Michael Barrett's, as expected, was 10 games. No other Cub was suspended.

However, expect Barrett to appeal, so any suspension will likely be delayed for several weeks.

Apropos of nothing, but I had to show you guys this, you've got to check out this post at Federal Baseball about yesterday's Nationals/Astros game. Hilarious!

In the meantime, there's a game to be played at Wrigley Field today.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
 C. Zambrano
Cubs		 vs. Tim Hudson
 T. Hudson
Braves
3-2 W-L 4-3
3.53 ERA 3.95
71 SO 45
38 BB 21
9 HR 4
vs. Atl -- vs. Cubs
Z is starting to pitch more consistently; his 71 K's lead the NL and are 2nd to Johan Santana in the majors. He is 2-1 in six lifetime starts vs. the Braves.

Tim Hudson has faced the Cubs only once: last August 22, also against Z, a game the Cubs played well until Kerry Wood (in relief) gave up a two-run HR to Chipper Jones in the 9th, his second two-run HR of the game.

Jacque Jones, who faced Hudson often in the AL, is 9-for-29 lifetime against him, with 2 HR.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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He should not appeal
...and just serve the 10 days now.  The Cubs will lose most of these next 10 with or without Barrett.  If he appeals, he'll probably serve when Lee is back, and that'll be yet another 10 games without a full team.  I'd rather have zippo the next ten days than a half a team now and a half a team then.

by MikeJ on May 26, 2006 10:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also think he should not appeal
Russ Springer got four games for beaning Bonds. Ten games for punching a guy doesnt really sound that horrible to me. Anderson got five so it all sounds pretty reasonable to me. I'm a little surprised Podsednik didnt get at least one or two.

In terms of strategy on what his absence could mean to the team. It's all out the window now. I dont care about numbers. Jacque Jones versus Tim Hudson, w/ Barrett, w/out, day games, night games. Nothing seems to make a difference anymore.

Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would disagree
He will probably get the suspension reduced if he appeals it.  Plus, Springer threw at Bonds for no reason.  Barrett punched A.J., because he's A.J.  It's not like he clocked Omar Vizquel.  MLB should assume that A.J. instigated it in some form based on his history.  Nearly everyone, opponents and teamates alike have hated A.J. in hist time in the big leagues.  Krukow used to talk about this during Giants broadcasts.  He cut A.J. some slack because he honestly felt A.J. had no idea he was such a jerk.

by MHef08 on May 26, 2006 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

suspension
he appealed it, so he's in the lineup today
"In this life there are nothing but possibilities."

by flyball on May 26, 2006 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shoddy Reasoning
He threw at AJ, because it's AJ?

Yah, well Springer threw at Bonds, because it was Bonds.

Regardless of who he punched, he still punched someone, unprovoked. You could argue that AJ running him over incited his rage, that's fine, but it was a clean play, so you cannot justify Barrett's reaction to this play. Had Barrett stepped aside, and AJ went out of his way to railroad him, then yes, punch AJ, but Barrett completely blocked his path to the plate.
 You could have argued AJ deserved getting punched for slapping the plate, but Barrett admitted he did not see that.
You could argue that AJ shouldn't have gone over to get his helmet fine, but then AT MOST all Barrett has to do is push him out of the way, not sock him in the jaw. A punch to an undefended, unsuspecting person is just not warrented.

Just because someone is widely disliked, doesn't mean they deserve to have their reputation brought into question on an unrelated issue. Say for example, in the past, on three occasions, AJ ignited a brawl by muttering something to another player, then yes, you could use that as reason to check whether he did in fact say anything this time.

But you can't use the fact that his teammates in the past have disliked him to judge whether he was guilty or innocent of wrong doing.

www.chisoxblog.blogspot.com

by jeeves on May 26, 2006 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 2 situations are different
I think it's pretty clear Bonds didn't say anything to Springer before Springer threw 5 pitches at him.  Bonds hadn't homered off Springer in years, so I don't know what action he could have taken to offend him, but maybe something was done in the distant past.  No one besides Barrett and A.J. knows if A.J. popped off and was asking for it.  Based on A.J.'s history, and his actions the very next game, it's not far fetched to think he did something in addition to heading toward the Cubs dugout.  We'll never know.  In A. J., we are talking about a guy who will sky hook the ball to 3rd after am opposing hitter strikes out.

by MHef08 on May 26, 2006 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HUH?
"No one besides Barrett and A.J. knows if A.J. popped off and was asking for it."

So you're blaming the guy who was sucker punched by someone with a reputation as a hot-headed punk?  You're taking the side of the person who said on the radio before the game that he needed to start a fight?

There is one person who popped off verbally and physically, Michael Barrett.  Barrett has never denied that he said, "I didn't have the ball, bitch."  Barrett has never claimed that AJ said anything to him...yet.  Who knows though if Barrett will sometime soon as Barrett's story keeps changing.

Amazing.

Read Phil Rogers column, finally someone in the print media gets it, amazing that that person works at the Tribune.

by DrCrawdad on May 27, 2006 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suspension
I am not saying Barrett shouldn't be suspended, I'm just saying there's enough doubt to reduce it.  I don't think A.J. deserves the same protection as respected guys like Omar Vizquel, Frank Thomas, or Greg Maddux who do not have a long history of inciting opponents.  I'm sure A.J.'s Twins teammates loved getting drilled when they came to the plate after his antics in the field showed up an opponent.  He tried to start something the next day with Big Z. but Z didn't bite.  I am also saying that the Bonds/Springer issue wasn't a good comparison.

For the record, I'm not going to bash any White Sox fans for sticking up for their guy, even if he's a bad guy.  At some point, every team has a guy like that and the fans are stuck with them for a while.  At least A.J. is trying to win.              

by MHef08 on May 27, 2006 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Incite or irritate?
I'd say there is a different.  I fully agree and have said that AJ no doubt irritates opponents.  I've noted that there have been controversy surrounding him at times.  But I can't see what he's done wrong in any of the recent "troubles" surrounding AJ.

"I'm sure A.J.'s Twins teammates loved getting drilled when they came to the plate after his antics in the field showed up an opponent."

On the contrary, at least one former teammate, David Ortiz, said that AJ is an irritant to opponents but a good teammate.

"He tried to start something the next day with Big Z. but Z didn't bite."

I bet to differ.  That's the biased view (not surprisingly) that Santo has expressed, but it's not in line with the facts.

Some have said that Zambrano was yelling BECAUSE AJ tapped his chest.  The facts are that Zambrano was screaming at AJ BEFORE he tapped his chest.  

Zambrano has no room to have a hissy fit when a player shows him up since he was showing up Sox hitters by pumping his fists after striking out Sox player(s) in the first inning.

by DrCrawdad on May 27, 2006 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re
Not only are you correct concering this particular incident, but the person involved in it that has the reputation for picking fights during a game is Barrett.

What Barrett did is inexcusable and, like before when he lit a fire under the Astros, it's going to hurt the Cubs.  Fortunately, it won't matter this year.


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by Jed Taylor on May 27, 2006 4:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give the whole team 10!
Give them all the next 10 games off! It will give the fans a welcome break from the headaches and the players can figure out how to play the game over the next few weeks. And open up Wrigley for a block party, so there is actually something enjoyable going on inside the fences!

by Cally22 on May 26, 2006 10:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that would be cool
a party inside wrigely. Isn't there gonna be one just outside Wrigley on Saturday? Is that for real? A protest?
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should be only 5 games..
..cause he only hit him with ONE fist, i.e. 1 game per finger.  So if Barrett gave him a 1-2 combo punch, 10 games would be fine.  And if Antonio Alfonseca punched AJ, it would be a 6 game suspension.  
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha nice logic
what does a head lock get you?  Could you imagine the suspension Nolan Ryan would have gotten for that whoopin on Robin Ventura?
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alfonseca
still leading the league in fingers.

Thanks to The Onion for that one.....

by chiswede on May 26, 2006 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with Brenly (for once)
I don't like it when Umpires and Officials intrude on the baseball. (Not that what we watch from my beloved Cubs always resembles the baseball.)

I think 10 games is too high.  6-8 is the most I expected.  For goodness sake, that's near what they used to get for steroids.  

If he appeals and they reduce it, that's great.  But, I also agree with the sentiment that you might as well just get it over with and let the sucking sounds continue without you.

My vote is to just do the time, even if the punishment does not fit the crime.  There are plenty of reasons this is not a great ruling, but it's small in the scheme.

Here's hoping we see Crazy in a Good Way Z.

by Woodstock on May 26, 2006 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Robin Ventura
Forever remembered as the guy who took a swing at Nolan Ryan.

by Sidd Finch on May 26, 2006 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DLee
Did he dodge a bullet by not being suspended?  I thought he was in danger of a few games since he is on the dl, and entered the field?

by gp1966 on May 26, 2006 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably wouldn't have mattered...

The Cubs could have just timed his return from the DL that many days earlier.

by salparadise23 on May 26, 2006 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not so worried about today....
as I am about tomorrow. If we follow suit, Horacio Ramirez will come off the DL and pitch for the first time since April April 5th and throw a complete game. Fortunately he already has a few under his belt so it won't be another milestone against the Cubs.  Though if he hits a HR THAT would be the first of his career. Wait it does get worse, the only CG he threw last year was against the Cubs. Darn.

Ok on the positive side of things, we'll have great weather for this series. Will be nice to fire up the grill and have some Cubs baseball to watch. Even if we dont get the final score we all want.

Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe it !
No suspension for AJ when he clearly started the brawl - unbelievable.

10 games for Barrett when all he was doing was defending himself.

Why would that be ? Does everyone hate the cubs ?

by 1969cubs on May 26, 2006 11:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude
why are you still here?

by chiswede on May 26, 2006 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how?
sorry, but remove the Cubs glasses. Pierzynski may be a hot dog, however the hit was legal and how you play the game. Barrett admitted that he was wrong and didn't even see Pierzynski slap the plate. Had Barrett not slugged AJ, Pierzynski would have gotten no suspension or fine.

DmL

by dmlichte on May 26, 2006 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His post was dripping with sarcasm..
he is from WSI(White Sox Interactive) Just trolling.

Speaking of trolls

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 "A delicious blend of beef, Italian peppers, and cheese. Make ahead for busy days. It reheats wonderfully in the microwave."
Original recipe yield: 1 pie.
Servings:8 (change)

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by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over/Under June 30
Walker gets traded away, Womack becomes the everyday 2nd baseman, Hendry signs him to a 2 yr/$5 million deal.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 12:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT A LINEUP!
we got Neifi at 2B batting second
and Bynum in LF batting, get this, 7th!
anybody wanna take the over/under on how many runs the Cubs score today?

by CubFaninNY on May 26, 2006 12:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Friendly reminder
Juan Pierre hasn't had an RBI since April 7TH!
anybody wanna put up the average RBI totals of leadoff men?

by CubFaninNY on May 26, 2006 12:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

According to my calculator & ESPN.com stats
the average RBIs for leadoff men in both leagues is 15.7.

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it's any consolation
Marcus Giles is next lowest in the majors with only 7 RBI this season so far.

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Wood
Wood will not make his Sunday Start...

by BadGuy on May 26, 2006 12:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What?
Who? Where did you find that?
she

by Sarah Hope on May 26, 2006 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WSCR
They just reported it on WSCR

by BadGuy on May 26, 2006 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You just
broke my heart.
she

by Sarah Hope on May 26, 2006 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awww
Sorry 'bout that. Hopefully it's another in a line of mis-reports by WSCR...

by BadGuy on May 26, 2006 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...
Wait 'til next start, I suppose.
she

by Sarah Hope on May 26, 2006 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moved to Monday...
Seems he will pitch, on Monday. There all better :)

by BadGuy on May 26, 2006 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my gosh.
Cancel the valium.  I'm good to go.

Thank you! :)

she

by Sarah Hope on May 26, 2006 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who pitches Sun?
Ok then who pitches Sun? Rusch? Ryu?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dusty just said on pregame
That they haven't made a decision yet and Wood felt good yesterday.  He made it sound more likely that Wood may start Sunday.  However, why push him at this point?

by JonH on May 26, 2006 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They
Had an onfield interview with Rothschild on the Score where he said it would be Mon. ...With the Cubs honest level these days...who knows.

by BadGuy on May 26, 2006 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy I think caution
is in order here. Don't want to throw damaged goods out there. Giving Kerry an extra day off sounds like a good plan to me.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scrubs
Since Big Jim and Crusty are constantly on the lookout for former Cubs to salvage from the "Retirement Home For the Useless," I thought that I might give them a current wishlist and their current addresses -- thus saving time when trying to find them. So here it is --

Alan Benes and Will Cunnane -- Memphis
Jimmy "Captain Puffy" Anderson -- Albuquerque
Micah Bowie -- New Orleans
Scott McClain -- Sacramento
Jason DuBois -- Buffalo
Enrique Wilson -- Pawtucket
Manny Alexander and Bobby Hill -- Portland
David Kelton -- Richmond
Sandy Martinez and Michael Tucker -- Norfolk
Terry Adams -- Indianapolis

These are just the Triple A guys -- I'm sure there are some more at Double A -- heck Andy Pratt is at Nashville --

So let's work those waiver wires, DFA lists, and Unconditional Release announcements!! In no time at all we can fill the new 25-man roster.

by bigdaddy on May 26, 2006 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can someone please explain to me
why Dusty has Perez (BA 1.97) batting 2nd and Cedeno  (BA 2.79) batting 8th? Why are Perez and Freddie Bynumb in the lineup at all? Losing...All....Hope.

by teacher tom on May 26, 2006 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can
borrow mine if you'd like.
she

by Sarah Hope on May 26, 2006 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll have some please!
With a side of Chocolate Eclair.

by teacher tom on May 26, 2006 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmm
yummmm.......
she

by Sarah Hope on May 26, 2006 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flubs woo
go flubbies go

by 1969cubs on May 26, 2006 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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by Sarah Hope on May 26, 2006 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yum
   mmmmmm Chocolate Eclair.. Now I'm hungry..

by NorthernLights1972 on May 26, 2006 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of fans disguised as empty seats,.......
....maybe a boycott or just late arriving fans?
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 1:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd worse leadoff batter in baseball walks....
...anyone want to guess who has the worst leadoff hitting.
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ummmm...
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why thank you. I would, but ......
.....this is my calm day and it won't taste good with my pitcher of Bailey's.
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else..
..on the Braves video feed?  Good to hear Chip's voice again.  Len and Bob are brutal..
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 1:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Len just said that
Wood had a bullpen session today.  That's good to hear.

by VS on May 26, 2006 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm, I think
Z had bette start throwing some strikes soon.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs always have the disadvantage
when the Ump has a tight strike zone because they just don't take pitches!

by CubFaninNY on May 26, 2006 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ARGHHHHHH
You gotta be kiddin me....

by BadGuy on May 26, 2006 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was advised ....
...earlier in this thread to have a chocolate eclair. Didn't help me, but maybe it'll help you (ha).
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like it
when we walk francoeur

by tal1286 on May 26, 2006 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

walk-a-thon
4 walks now!

Good thing Walgreens isn't making donations for the walks our pitchers give up.

Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Watch Francouer
develop Gilesesque plate discipline today.

by VS on May 26, 2006 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jesus
this team is a joke
"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 26, 2006 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the only thing to do
is laught, after all the alternative is to cry
"In this life there are nothing but possibilities."

by flyball on May 26, 2006 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing our bullpen is fresh
We will need them today.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 1:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But Z still has a no-hitter!!
n/t
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah man
You just jinxed him.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At 37 pitches per inning...
...he'll not be around long to enjoy it, will he?
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bynum instead of Murton
Z getting squeezed.

Should I just go see a movie now?

by helen on May 26, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching
this team is like watching a train wreck in slow motion - horrifying spectacle but unable to turn away.

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Francoeur is one of the hardest players to
walk.  2BB prior to today. It just keeps getting better.

by SonnyJ9 on May 26, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh crap
Now Len and Bob are showing Womack some love.

by VS on May 26, 2006 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

11 pitches but Perez took
an unprecedented 2 pitches to get an out.

by teacher tom on May 26, 2006 1:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why Neifi why????
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pierre
If it wasn't for the pesky Pierre the cubs could have gotten out of the inning with 5 pitches and would have completed dusty's plan for world domination.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

11 pitches!
coulda been worse.............

by CubFaninNY on May 26, 2006 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hudson
11 pitches, though JP did have a good at bat taking 7. Neifi, of course, needed one pitch to make an out.

by helen on May 26, 2006 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you know
im thinking its not an issue of who is hurt or who isnt

really when you look at our team

there is a lack of TALENT

almost everywhere

that i do think is a reflection on Jim  Hendry

"a sort of soft tyranny of positivity" -GM

by ksucubbie on May 26, 2006 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG
3 up 3 down!

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thats more like it
way to go Z.
Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no
I got the game on the radio. I'm not surprised though.
Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whaaaa????
6 pitches, who is dusty working for?

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

must be some unwritten rule
be nice to the pitcher the next inning.

by CubFaninNY on May 26, 2006 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay Z
that was much better. Six pitches, three outs. Do that a couple of more times, and we're in business.

by helen on May 26, 2006 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sticky fingers
Did you see Jones try to throw the ball into the stands after that last out?  It stuck in his hand and he flipped it striaght up in the air.  Does he secrete glue instead of sweat?

by northofwrigley on May 26, 2006 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor Jones, he missed the crowd when...
...he tried to throw the ball into the stands following the 3rd out.
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

don't worry
Bynum took care of that for you. Was that the first pitch?
Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well now no Cub is even hitting .290...
....maybe we'll hold the line at .285.
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bynum..
..really got ahold of that one eh?
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why
Is Aramis hitting so low in the order...I know he has struggled, but do we really have another threat besides him and Barrett? Please Dusty, just hit him 3rd then we don't have to hope Bynum drives him in.

by airweino on May 26, 2006 2:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why
freddie behind ARam?  makes no sense to me

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bynum
Well Ramirez got a hit but you'd think with him trying to break out of a slump, batting Freddy f'ing Bynum behind him isn't gonna help much now is it.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ha
I laughed out loud when Pat said, "Let's see if Bynum can drive in Ramirez."

by northofwrigley on May 26, 2006 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

really bad lineup construction
guarenteed that we wouldn't get a run there.

Thanks, Dusty

by helen on May 26, 2006 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed
Cedeño up one spot would have been better.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's embarrassing watching Pierre...
...play centerfield in the same game Andruw Jones playing.
"I was not in optimum condition to manage ," Dusty said. "I regret that lapse in judgment."

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on May 26, 2006 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder
why Zambrano is not hitting 5th today with this group...

by airweino on May 26, 2006 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

9 pitches that inning
by my count that puts him at 52, 7 over where I'd like him to be. That's a big improvement.

by helen on May 26, 2006 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hudson over/under
pitch count at the end of inning..... 35
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha
or 1st pitch ground out
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no luck
right at the 1st basemen. Had he not been holding Pierre that's in the corner and we get a run.

by CubFaninNY on May 26, 2006 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder
If I can get a IH8NEIFI license plate?

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4th inning Best Chance for Cubs to score
At least we have four legit major league hiiters due up this inning...got take advantage of it...
One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on May 26, 2006 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Would be nice
to see Aramis here instead of Jones
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Double J
He's been hotter lately. I wonder who we could get for him in a trade?
Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay Freddie
You'd better knock in this run from 3rd base with less than two outs...
One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on May 26, 2006 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bynum
you ^%$#@! piece of $#@! what the $#@! Dusty hitting this guy behind A-Ram, this better not cost us the $#@! game becuase of your $#@! line-up construction...
One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on May 26, 2006 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, but isn't
that better than our other option: Murton, who hit a home run two games ago, and is hitting 50 points better than Bynum, and knows how to take a walk? What is it that Baker doesn't get? What is it he's trying to teach Murton? What is it that he is teaching Bynum?

I think I'd be happier if we fired Baker and had random citizens of Chicago manage the team for the rest of the year. Even if Sox fans were eligable.

by helen on May 26, 2006 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha
how about trolls?
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it means
we lose Dusty and his boys, yeah, I'll take the trolls for a day or two, too. As long as the drawings are random.

by helen on May 26, 2006 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hear Ron say
Heads up baserunning by JJ, mark this day down in history.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bynum, one walk and
15 strikeouts.  Now that's Dusty's kind of guy.

by BringBackRyno on May 26, 2006 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BB/K ratio
ESPN lists his BB/K ratio at an impressive 0.07
Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bynumb
doesn't disappoint, K's as expected.
Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How do you
Stuff a Freddie Bynum up Dusty's ass?
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WHY NOT BUNT NOW DUSTY?
try the squeeze now, not with Barrett!

by CubFaninNY on May 26, 2006 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

excellent idea
post of the day.
One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on May 26, 2006 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing will kill a rally
quite like a Bynum K w/a man on 3rd and only 1 out.  I guess we should be happy. Cubs winning 2-1.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to believe that Z
has a nohitter going into the 6th.

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SHHHHHH!
Don't say anything! :)
"I know what they're doing. They're trying to walk me, but I won't let them." --Jacque Jones

by Jobu on May 26, 2006 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

real quick now
run outside spin around three times and spit, before you jinx it
"In this life there are nothing but possibilities."

by flyball on May 26, 2006 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pat
already mentioned it on the air, its over.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?
sorry, I cannot get WGN at work

maybe he was in theater in high school

"In this life there are nothing but possibilities."

by flyball on May 26, 2006 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like AL says
"just when you think you know everything about baseball, something will happen to let you know that you don't."

Did anyone think he would walk 4 in the 1st inning? Furthermore, did anyone think he would end up having a no hitter through 5? His 7 k's so far are a very nice surprise after that rocky 1st inning.

Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless he morphs into Maddux...
Z will have too many pitches by the 7th/8th inning to finish it.  

Then again, Dusty will probably start day-dreaming about Bob Gibson and the "good 'ol days" and leave him in there for 160 pitches

"I know what they're doing. They're trying to walk me, but I won't let them." --Jacque Jones

by Jobu on May 26, 2006 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Darn that walk
He was cruisin
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey bynum
actually caught one!

Woo Hoo ! ! !

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Credit
where credit's due.

I still think Murton shoulda played.

by helen on May 26, 2006 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure
that was Dusty's plan all along.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He has 100 pitches through
5/2/3 not happening fellas and ladies

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 2:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Laroche
didn't take one swing, i'm sure they were trying to run up his pitch count even more and get him out of there. I'm sure they are praying for Novoa. And Dusty will not disappoint.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 2:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope
Dusty take Z out after this inning - last thing we need is him hurt as well. Plus isn't that what we spend all that money on a bullpen for?

by airweino on May 26, 2006 2:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Three innings
Is it too much to ask for our bullpen to hold a (one run) lead for three innings?

by helen on May 26, 2006 2:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I almost
shed a tear...... I can't believe this.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF?
Bynum HR.

I think the rapture index just went up a few points.

Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Everyone all together now....

"Thank you Dusty for playing Freddie today....don't ever F'ing do it again!"
"I know what they're doing. They're trying to walk me, but I won't let them." --Jacque Jones

by Jobu on May 26, 2006 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Obviously....
we are all idiots on here...

by airweino on May 26, 2006 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He was right
I was wrong
He was right
I was wrong
He was right
I was wrong
He was right
I was wrong.

by helen on May 26, 2006 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Time for Dusty's
extension.  He sure is turning this thing around......

by BringBackRyno on May 26, 2006 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone got a clear shot of the dug out?
I'm sure Hendry is trying to slip him the contract as we speak.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow!
Freddie is now 4 for his last 11, including 2 HRs and a triple! Here's his line over those 11 ABs:

 AVG/ OBP/ SLG
.364/.364/1.090

Some serious slugging! Of course, this means almost nothing. I still don't want him playing much more than he has been, but it's a nice surprise...

by mportsch on May 26, 2006 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh...
Carlos now begins the slow march to 130 pitches...

by mportsch on May 26, 2006 3:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"tough call"
Is what Pat and Ron are calling the decsion to pull Big Z
"I know what they're doing. They're trying to walk me, but I won't let them." --Jacque Jones

by Jobu on May 26, 2006 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only
person who thinks this ump is inept?

by helen on May 26, 2006 3:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell just happened???
I don't have a TV
"I know what they're doing. They're trying to walk me, but I won't let them." --Jacque Jones

by Jobu on May 26, 2006 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fly ball deep to Right..
Jacque goes back to the wall.. Jacque loses it in the sun. ball drops 1 ft away from Jacque.

It is ruled a hit.

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gonna keel Jock...
he ruin my no hitter by losing the ball in the sun

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

#)*&$#$#$ JONES
lost the ball in the sun...first f'n hit

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't have mattered
he gave uop another right after it.

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope
it would have been the third out

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
but that may have been a lack of concentration after the no hitter was blown. We'll never know.

by helen on May 26, 2006 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True but...
That is more of an indictment of Z and his lack of concentration.

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
it gives Baker an excuse to not ride Z for 160 pitches.

...and Z is now out, Howry in

Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JJ
might have just done us a favor by blowing the no hitter. Now Dusty will take Z out.

by helen on May 26, 2006 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z out Howry in
but the dude pitched a great game if you forget about the first inning.

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

here is comes.
here it comes i can feel it! 5 runs with 2 outs... my prediction!
lets get some runs

by lykkiey on May 26, 2006 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z
did handle that really well, from an emotional standpoint. He's always better when he controls the negative emotions.

by helen on May 26, 2006 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jacque Jones lost the ball in the sun
but it's ok cause he's not from Mexico.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But don't...
"Black people [deal with the] sun better"-- Dusty Baker

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

go nefi!!
i still like Nefi for some reason. i dont know why. but he still gets hits every now and then.
lets get some runs

by lykkiey on May 26, 2006 3:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bynum and Neifi
If Blanco gets a hit too, hell will have officially frozen over

by BringBackRyno on May 26, 2006 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha
thats funny
lets get some runs

by lykkiey on May 26, 2006 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cadillac Jones..
..didn't get a good jump on that one.
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We should be able to get another run or two
INSURANCE

From the 7th inn on, Braves ERA is 3rd worst in the league, 2nd worst in NL. 5.21

Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

its.
really gunn ahurt losing barret for 10 games. he has really beenm steppin up lately.
lets get some runs

by lykkiey on May 26, 2006 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How did Z do?
I'm so glad he's on our team.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 26, 2006 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HIghway Robbery..
Ronny says no soup for you

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ronnie
on the Spot!
To Bleed or Not to Bleed?

by TheRamZamDLEE on May 26, 2006 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You have to love the rules of baseball
If eyre gets out of the inning and the cubs win the game, Howry will get the win for getting 1 out and then getting pulled after putting 2 men on the next inning.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oops
no he won't

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

doesn't
Z get the win?
"In this life there are nothing but possibilities."

by flyball on May 26, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
i missed the 6th eating lunch.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not how I understand it
Z pitched five innings and had the lead when he left the game. He should be the pitcher of record.

by helen on May 26, 2006 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope
my take is that none of the runs scored after he left were on his watch. Loss would go to Howry.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

again
Credit where credit's due, Neifi saved us there.

But I still wish Theriot had gotten some starts.

by helen on May 26, 2006 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Diaz
Now there is someone who would have fit nicely on our bench and in a platoon with JJ

by airweino on May 26, 2006 3:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dempster
better bring his A game today.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

seriously...
i cant handle another blown close
lets get some runs

by lykkiey on May 26, 2006 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is amazing.
the cubs are actully playing some real baseball!
lets get some runs

by lykkiey on May 26, 2006 3:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why not Murton?
what's going on?
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 3:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rem struggles againts lefties
.290 something +
Go Cubbies! Pay Baseaball! - Liam, my 2 1/2 yr. old

by stelmodad on May 26, 2006 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course Maybry proves me wrong....
ugh.
Go Cubbies! Pay Baseaball! - Liam, my 2 1/2 yr. old

by stelmodad on May 26, 2006 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good question
considering Murton is hitting .379 vs. LHP, with an OPS of 1.141.

But we know Dusty (and Hendry) never look at the stats.

by false cognate on May 26, 2006 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at the very least
Murton makes contact.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man on third
with one out, and we can't bring him in, yet again.

by false cognate on May 26, 2006 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's that timely hitting
that we never seem to get. Well 2 runs will have to do for Dempster. Let not get to the Jones'
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chip just said..
..Pierre is 0 for 21 w/RISP
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's why
he's stuck on 2 RBI... since April freakin 7th!!!!!
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pena up with a runner on 1st
Brayen Pena up with a runner at 1st

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh lord..
..not again Demp..get it together man
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WP
2nd and 3rd no one out

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

PULL HIM
he's obviously not out of his funk yet.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can u freakin
believe this sh*t?

by JFCubFan on May 26, 2006 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG!
NOOOO!!
lets get some runs

by lykkiey on May 26, 2006 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Barrett
..is pathetic

by wicubfan on May 26, 2006 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That
was clearly a wild pitch. At least he blocked the next two in the dirt.
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's got to
at least try to get in front and not backhand it

by wicubfan on May 26, 2006 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It just gets...
harder to complain about Barrett when Blanco's carrying a below .100 ba.
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed that
another failure by our GM

by wicubfan on May 26, 2006 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BB or K
3-2 count.. game on the line

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JEEBUS!
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Edgar, Andru, Chipper
bases juiced you have two runs to play with

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs closers
Bring in a nobody, turn him into a good closer, bring in good setup men, have closer collapse, put setup man into closer role, have him collapse, wash, rinse and repeat

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Further proof that
anyone can close except set up men

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

......Hrmph............
.......Must...................Stop..................Heart Attack.......................GAAAAAAAAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

by The Jade Scorpion on May 26, 2006 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

calls 911..
I won't tell you who is up now.. Chip and Dru

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dempster is now officially unreliable..
..just another hole in this Cub team.  Sickening.
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I shoulda
gone to the movie

by helen on May 26, 2006 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So uh...
what's our strength now?
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i give up for today
can't do this anymore...good night and good weekend everyone.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In Dusty We Trusty
Cubs-Royals Guttar Series this October

Be sure to tune into the Ryan Dempster show on the Score later this week.

http://www.royalsreview.com

www.royalsreview.com

by royalsreview on May 26, 2006 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...
at least we can not blame Busty for this one.

by timeforachange on May 26, 2006 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can
I can blame him for never once trying to start Ryan Theriot, not even when this team clearly need to change things. I can blame him for not even coming out to talk to Dempster during the debacle. I can blame him for not motivatingthe players to play their best baseball.

by helen on May 26, 2006 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

0-2 count...oh wow..
should have been strike three...

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On a positive note
probably no extension for D-bag today

by BringBackRyno on May 26, 2006 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dempster
K's Jones..

Dru Jones at the dish

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

words escape me...
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Please
GIDP for the love of God, GIDP.

by baturkey on May 26, 2006 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3-1 .. missed low..
Jones will see a fastball here..

This cannot be good Brian Jordan on deck

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sac Fly
wow
.. the Cubs suck.. No thats not even Dempsters fault.. Jacque Jones Neifi Perez are to blame for this L

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What did Jacque do?
I just tuned in
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so...
That was all on Neifi...two errors charged to him.
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neifi!
You bastard!
"I know what they're doing. They're trying to walk me, but I won't let them." --Jacque Jones

by Jobu on May 26, 2006 4:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yup..
..the throw home was way high
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another reason to hate Neifi Perez..
he drops the cut off throw and then throws the ball over Barrett's head to allow the go-ahead run to score

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm at work
Folks, I have to listen to the game and talk to my buddy.

Was that throw from Jacques and drop/throw from Neifi as bad as he's describing to me?

A little help, folks....?

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

by The Jade Scorpion on May 26, 2006 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re
Well, first JJ throws a lazy arc at Neifi!, apparently assuming the runners are only going to take their standard bases (3rd to home, 2nd to third, 1st holding).  The ball's a bit high, but nothing that any 12 year-old can't catch.  Neifi! lets the ball go off his glove from a complete lack of concentration and then has to go chase it down while the runner from 2nd has rounded 3rd, seeing what a lazy throw it was, and once Neifi! muffs it, he takes off for home.  Neifi picks up the ball and then airmails it over Barrett's head, where it then ricochettes off the bricks like a pinball up the first base line in foul territory, so the runner on 1st who originally wasn't going anywhere winds up on third.

This is why you need grizzled vets in the lineup, dude.  You play kids, and who knows what they might do.


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by Jed Taylor on May 27, 2006 4:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

score from second
on a Sac fly

I...
Hate...
Neifi...
So...
Much...
Must...
Not...
Kill...

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 4:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It is official:
We have hit rock bottom.

by timeforachange on May 26, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I need brain surgery
...to make me no longer a Cubs fan.

sigh

But I know it will never work. I'm doomed.

www.cubbiesblog.com (news, sabermetrics, humor)

by CubbiesBlog on May 26, 2006 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've now seen it all
go ahead run scores from second on a sac fly

laziness at its best

by BringBackRyno on May 26, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Neifi
in there for defense? I could have sworn that was always the excuse to play him.
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Neifi!
I've offically lost IT
To Bleed or Not to Bleed?

by TheRamZamDLEE on May 26, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow
two errors, costing us the lead. Man, I'm so glad we haven't even tried starting Ryan Theriot at second.

by helen on May 26, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

please
do not remind me!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

crazy
 I just expect to lose.. When we have the lead I just expect to lose it..  unreal..

by NorthernLights1972 on May 26, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who's after Neifi...
i just tuned in
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never
mind
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SOMEONE HELP
I just tuned in at the start of Brian Jordan's AB. Someone explain the sac fly real quick. Also if someone can explain why Neifi is still alive, that'd be good too.

by grifdog on May 26, 2006 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jones catches the ball at the track in RF
he makes a lacksadaisical throw into the IF Neifi Drops the cut off throw from Jones

the braves send the runner from 3rd.. Perez airmails the throw to Barrett which gives the runner that was originally on 1st to move up 180 feet to 3rd

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
That just ruined my day.

by grifdog on May 26, 2006 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jones......
the throw was fine.

As to the ball lost in the sun.  It happens to the best of em.

This team is playing tight and is finding ways to lose.

by timeforachange on May 26, 2006 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...
Jones really didn't have to rush the throw.  The runner at third was going to score regardless, and you never see two runners score on a sac fly.  He just threw it back to Neifi, who screwed things up.

by VS on May 26, 2006 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dustys Butt buddy
Loses us the game!! Damn u Neifi!!!

by PrimeTime on May 26, 2006 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

actually
he's his illegitimate son. But don't say anything.

by MattThorton on May 26, 2006 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank god...
...we signed Neifi for 2 years and Jones for 3.  Brilliant.  These assholes deserve to lose.

by jolietconvict on May 26, 2006 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey
Jones is giving us everything we thought he would. After a slow start, i believe he is hitting over 300 this month. We got what we wanted from him...granted i dunno why that's what we wanted but he hasn't underperformed after a slow start.
Before there was Carlos...there was Eddie!

by thekansasian on May 26, 2006 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.
Sad that this is Jones' favorite month, isn't it?

All the way back up to .277, and a long history shows he'll subside after May.  So everybody was right to predict .255-.260 here at BCB for 2006.

Hell, give him three more years!!!!!

Oh wait.....already stuck for two more....sorry.

But hey, .260 at RF with a weak and inaccurate throwing arm solves the RF problem for three years, right?  Problem solved.  

By the way, anyone know the top Free Agent relievers Hendry will be signing this offseason?

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

by The Jade Scorpion on May 26, 2006 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't blame it on Jones
The people who blame Jones for being Jones are the same ones who booed Corey for being Corey and failing in the leadoff spot and are the same ones who booed Latroy in the closers role.  A guy is what he is and if he is misused then it isn't his fault.  Jones would be batting > 300 if he hadn't faced lefties and was platooned like everyone had called for before the season.

Neifi batting in the 9th today should be the Nail in Dusty's coffin as well as the whole coaching staff.  Fire Hendry for making horrible offseason signings 2 years running.  Fire Gene Clines and Gary Matthews for the cubs refusing to take pitches.  Fire Rothschild for the huge number of walks and all the pitching injuries.  You can only say you can't help the injuries for so long.  Fire Dick Pole for not setting Dusty straight and Fire Dusty for being a horrible in game manager and also for not firing the rest of his staff.  Chris Spiers can stay since I'm just happy Wavin' Wndell is gone.  
Last but not least cut ties with all our injury prone players and veteran journeymen.   You can't build on the 03 team anymore when there are only 2 guys left on the 25 man roster with any regularity.  Bring in some young guys and as they develop fill in with free agents but for now the Cubs are done.

by JonH on May 26, 2006 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree.
---"You can't blame it on Jones...

The people who blame Jones for being Jones are the same ones who booed Corey for being Corey and failing in the leadoff spot and are the same ones who booed Latroy in the closers role.  A guy is what he is and if he is misused then it isn't his fault.  Jones would be batting > 300 if he hadn't faced lefties and was platooned like everyone had called for before the season.."---

Hmm.  I suppose if you only count Jones' good days, he's the Cubs' best player.  That's not the point.  

Jones was signed as an everyday player, advertised as an everyday player, and promised to peform in a manner that would justify not needing a platoon.  Seeing as how he took a 3-year, $16-million contract to be an everyday player, he is at fault for not producing.  You don't just forgive and forget Jones for batting .277 so far and .050 (or whatever) against lefties - he is at fault for not performing well enough.

He was sold to us as a masterful defensive upgrade over Burnitz - this hasn't come to pass.

He was sold to us as a brilliant baserunner - this hasn't come to pass.

He was sold to us as having the talent of an everyday player - this hasn't come to pass.

Worst of all, he has been sold to us as the final solution to RF for three years - nobody is buying this salespitch.

So yes, it is in part Jones' fault for promising what he cannot deliver, and for making the least of many of his opportunities out there. Just like it was Hawkins' fault for having a bonus clause put in his contract for being a closer - a role he fancied himself in for the Cubs, and refused to ever suggest relinquishing it for the good of the team.

And yes, not wanting to listen to coaches, make adjustments, or practice in the offseason is Corey Patterson's fault.

Jacques Jones is not blameless; he is simply not delivering what he promised, and he is certainly not offering to sit against lefties so that the team could benefit.  He is not the victim of people "not using him right" because Dusty doesn't sit him down against every lefty, during Sunday games, and against all white pitchers with moustaches to maximize his stats for him so that he doesn't ever have to improve upon his weaknesses.

Jones promised, and has thus far failed to deliver.  That's on him, not Dusty and the rest of the organization for not rearranging the universe so that he only ever has to play againt people he has previously succeeded against.

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

by The Jade Scorpion on May 26, 2006 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waidaminit.
JONES didn't promise us those things; Jim Hendry promised us we'd get them from him -- this despite the fact that it was well known what Jones' strengths and weaknesses were and are, and I think Jones himself knows them even if he cannot admit them publicly.

He was being asked to do all those things, yes, but could not deliver because it simply is not part of his game.

That's not his fault. It's Jim Hendry's.

by Al on May 26, 2006 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH MY GOD>>>>>>>
a bunt.

Jesus Christ.

What in his history leads him to believe that will work?

by timeforachange on May 26, 2006 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

but not when you add hits and walks together
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

comeback
Please for the love of... all of them. I'm appealing to all deities at once here.
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by CubbiesBlog on May 26, 2006 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dempster..
..needs to be taking notes on how the Braves closer is pitching.
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Walker flies out to medium CF
2 down

Michael is up no one out.. and here the Cubs are down to their final out

by cubsfan2883 on May 26, 2006 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All i can hope for here
is a fould ball into the dugout that hits dusty, neifi, bynum and rothschild in the face.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 4:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No words can describle..
..it can't be any lower than this.
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

THIS is rock bottom
I feel so empty.  
"I know what they're doing. They're trying to walk me, but I won't let them." --Jacque Jones

by Jobu on May 26, 2006 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And will...
The only way to keep it from getting worse is to have the Cubs forfeit every game for the rest of the season.

by Molechaser on May 26, 2006 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really
We have yet to see Murton cost us a game, and there's still hope that Womack will too.  

by thing85 on May 26, 2006 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish
people would quit saying that. They keep proving it wrong.

by helen on May 26, 2006 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just wait
Till the cubs win 2 in a row and give dusty an extension, thats what rock bottom will feel like.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, this is pathetic
No way around this. 9 walks, and only taking 1 walk. Unacceptable.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 26, 2006 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from a no hitter..
..to a bad loss.  Talk about a roller coaster...
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh
  I dunno anymore..  What have we've done to deserve this?  Really..  Jeez.. :(

by NorthernLights1972 on May 26, 2006 4:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WE...
have not held management accountable.

Plain and simple.  They built it (Wrigley) and 40,000 will come.

This is the worst loss of the season.

by timeforachange on May 26, 2006 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOLOLOLOL
I just saw the play. Jones did nothing wrong. Neifi just sucks goat balls and should have been released before he could come up to bat in the 9th.

by grifdog on May 26, 2006 4:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol
maybe so
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by CubbiesBlog on May 26, 2006 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Z doesn't deserve this.
This is sickening.  How horrible.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 26, 2006 4:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
I feel sorry for Z too. That has got to really chap his ass.
Win when you can, lose if you must, but always CHEAT!!!

by aauummph on May 26, 2006 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Dempster
I'd like for you to meet a few of my friends, over here is Antonio Alfonseca and this is Mr. Hawkins and over there is Rod Beck and back by the drinks is Joe Borowski.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
Six fingers, The Hawk, The Shooter, JoBo.....what's Dempster's moniker?

by soonerbered on May 26, 2006 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So who's protesting tomorrow?
I'm thinking about making some room in my schedule for it. SOMETHING has to happen.
Tony U La Grange, IL

by tony412 on May 26, 2006 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not me...
I have to work.  Otherwise, I'd be there.  But someone ought to take the lead in passing out paper bags for the fans in the seats to wear over their heads.

by Molechaser on May 26, 2006 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't make it..
..but I'll protest from the pool with an adult beverage in hand.  Bad loss, but at least it's a 3 day weekend.  
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Errrr
  Pitchforks and torches sounds about right..  Let's go

by NorthernLights1972 on May 26, 2006 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the tribune compay
would like to thank you for your donation.

by mike bornemann on May 26, 2006 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trib
Its not like they aren't spending any money, they are just spending it on players made out of glass and crap.  How does the team with a top 10 payroll have Bynum and Neifi starting in the same game, let alone be on the same team.

by akcubfan on May 26, 2006 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point is...
that Andy MacFail should be fired, and the only people that can do that is the trib.  What's it been now?  Ten, twelve years under Andy?  enough.

by soonerbered on May 26, 2006 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TODAY'S ATTENDANCE
  40,865.

A FRIGGIN DISGRACE.

by CubFaninNY on May 26, 2006 4:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Murton
Why didn't Murton and his .344 OBP lead off the 9th?  With Walker, Barrett, Jones, and Ramirez after that spot, what was Dusty saving Murton for?  An extra-inning double switch?

by MHef08 on May 26, 2006 4:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Postgame has been cut short
Dusty's presser got cut short by the Cubs' PR dept. B&B on the score are reporting.
Jacque Jones-doubled-off-second-o-meter: 3

by jrm78 on May 26, 2006 4:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully
it's because he can no longer officially speak for the Cubs.

by helen on May 26, 2006 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right Al
I am glad we didn't let Dusty go, the baseball being played could have gotten a lot worse if that had happened.

by mike bornemann on May 26, 2006 4:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There...
is no way Al can still be on the Dusty bandwagon.

It is over.  It is over.

Dusty will be fired by Monday.

by timeforachange on May 26, 2006 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Five gets you Ten
i'll take that bet.  dusty is here for the year, and probably next year.  hendry has already said that's it's a done deal.  they're just waiting for the right time to announce it (read: three game winning streak).

by soonerbered on May 26, 2006 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In that case..
..with the way the team is playing they won't ever have the chance to announce it.  
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on May 26, 2006 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol...
you're right!  so we're in limbo.  but i just know that he'll be given the year.

by soonerbered on May 26, 2006 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Done....
This freight train is rolling down the tracks with no breaks......

I will take that bet.

by timeforachange on May 26, 2006 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you play...
Kino too?  j/k.  but i think i'll take your money?

by soonerbered on May 26, 2006 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or
given an extension.
Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on May 26, 2006 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?
because they lost? Ha. The Dusty era is just barely half over.

by mike bornemann on May 26, 2006 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh question
anyone else think that Dempster history with walks might come back to get him this year, or does that still not matter what he did the last few years?

by mike bornemann on May 26, 2006 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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