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Our Long National Nightmare Is Over

If you are of a "certain age", or follow politics, you will recognize that headline as part of the speech President Gerald Ford gave when he was inaugurated as president in 1974, following the resignation of Richard Nixon.

The Cubs' finally winning a game after seven weeks and eighteen straight televised losses via WGN doesn't quite have the same impact, although WGN IS, of course, "national" via cable and satellite.

Long losing streaks in history:

Philadelphia Phillies, 23, 1961
Baltimore Orioles, 21, 1988
Montreal Expos, 20, 1969
Philadephia A's, 20, 1916 and 1943
Boston Braves, 19, 1906
Detroit Tigers, 19, 1975
Kansas City Royals, 19, 2005
Chicago Cubs on WGN, 18, 2006

OK, I'm joking here, and I hope you know it. The WGN crew even made a joke of it -- Len & Bob mentioned it several times during the telecast, and if you didn't see it, at the end of the game they put on the air a shot of the control-room crew giving each other high-fives.

Isn't it nice to see a win, no matter what channel it's on? The Cubs beat the Reds 9-3 this afternoon, not only winning but winning easily. Juan Pierre even drove in a run today.

Again, a lot of the things about this win made no sense. Neifi Perez hit his first home run since August 21, 2005, a two-run job. Ronny Cedeno and Phil Nevin also cracked two-run homers; they came off three different Reds pitchers. Nevin has now homered twice in 21 Cub at-bats and -- hey, Dusty! Reminder: the White Sox did NOT win last year because they played "small ball", which is, I think, the reason Baker is so fixated on the "speed guys". The Sox won because they had outstanding starting pitching, and also hit 200 HR, fourth in the AL.

Willya start putting the power guys in the lineup??

More stats that are mystifying: Here is the Cubs' record...

vs. NL Central teams over .500: 13-8
vs. NL Central teams under .500: 5-6

Do those numbers make ANY sense to you? Only the Reds, at 25-15, have a better within-the-division record than the Cubs do.

The Cubs came in to Cincinnati to play the hottest team in baseball, at a season-low 13 games under .500 -- and beat them three of four. They also had their first winning road trip since April.

I cannot say enough good things about Carlos Marmol. He looked just as good starting today as in his two relief appearances. He walked three -- but struck out seven. 99 pitches in six innings is reasonable; he gave up only one run, a solo HR to David Ross, who's hit well so far this season. The other two Reds runs were also solo HR, one by Brandon Phillips off David Aardsma, and the other an Adam Dunn HR off Scott Eyre after the Cubs had put the game away with their five-run eighth inning.

At ten games under .500, of course, the Cubs are a long way from even thinking about contending, and I'm going to get flamed, I'm sure, if I say I still have hope. This team has a ton of holes, and yes, I know it.

Still. The play of the last three days has been good -- more solid each day, and in addition to having their first winning trip since April, this is also the first three-game winning streak since April.

Yes, that's pretty sad. Mark Prior will pitch for Iowa vs. New Orleans on Tuesday. After that it is possible that he will be slotted in the rotation to pitch against the Tigers at home next Sunday. Doing this would also allow the Cubs to skip Glendon Rusch's next turn, which would come up on Wednesday, and put both Greg Maddux and Carlos Zambrano on "normal" rest. That, clearly, would help both of them. Meanwhile, Marmol has certainly earned at least one more start.

If -- and yes, at this stage that is a BIG "if" -- Prior is any semblance of what we've always wanted him to be, a rotation of Zambrano, Maddux, Marshall, Marmol and Prior wouldn't be bad at all.

Wish I had better news about Mark's game this afternoon, which I watched while keeping track of the Cubs on my web-cellphone. They lost 11-1. He pitched a couple of innings, registering three strikeouts but also walking in a couple of runs. One of the coaches mentioned his release point is too high. Sound familiar?

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Dusty made fun of the fans
for wanting small ball yesterday or the day before.  I'm pretty sure Dusty knows this team has no power and is probably pretty upset about it.  This obviously wasn't Dusty's doing.  Blame Hendry.  Not Baker for this one.

by Maddog on Jun 11, 2006 4:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course...
... with Derrek Lee this club WOULD have more power.

by Al on Jun 11, 2006 4:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True.
But they'd still be in the lower third of the NL at the end of the season.  

this team lacked power from the start.  I was happy to see that they built a team that appeared would be able to score runs without the benefit of the home run, but they were not going to be able to win when the wind blew out at Wrigley very often with the team they had on Opening Day.  It simply wasn't a team that could hit a lot of home runs.  For that matter, it wasn't a team that could hit a lot of doubles either.

The Cubs can either add power in the offseason at SS, 2B or LF.  If they don't, they're not going to score enough runs next season.  They must have one more guy who can go deep.  

by Maddog on Jun 11, 2006 5:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I smell
Dusty's extension...

by Slaky311 on Jun 11, 2006 4:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 game win streak
I was thinking the same thing.

OT: Here's a Zoidberg (of Futurama) smiley- (:3
(it's not perfect, but whatever)

Wowee! Rickey Henderson!

by jrm78 on Jun 11, 2006 5:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The last time
the Cubs won three in a row was April 23rd - 26th. Let's hope the winning streak continues.

I thought Marmol did a good job today too.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2006 4:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

marmol's
throwing motion reminds me of roy oswalt.

by tomas21 on Jun 11, 2006 5:07 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and hopefully
he has similiar success as well. I'm digging this guy alot.
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball."- Harry Caray

by TkGoUWGB on Jun 11, 2006 11:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Al..
..seeing those names in a possible rotation - Zambrano, Maddux, Marshall, Marmol and Prior - and the pen as solid as it is, all it would take is the offense to gain consistency (Ramirez, Pierre) and they can be right back in it.  I share your optimism , although with more than a few grains of salt.  
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Jun 11, 2006 5:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pierre and Ramirez...
... are two big reasons this offense has been so impotent.

Yes, absolutely, a lot of grains of salt. But at least they're more fun to watch right now.

by Al on Jun 11, 2006 6:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This rotation....
With one stud, two rookies, one AARP member and one disappointment will not be the salvation the year.

I hope Marmol gets a chance, but expect the same ups and downs you see with Marshall.

I'd forget Prior until he can get minor leaguers out, and can pitch more than three innings  Let Guzman get some ML experience in his place.

by thisteamisajoke on Jun 11, 2006 5:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well put!
I'd like to see Guzman and Marmol in the rotation for the remainder of the season.  Despite the 3-game win streak and feelings from Cubs fans that there is a chance, it's over.  Forget about it.  The Cubs have no chance of getting back in this race.  None!

by Maddog on Jun 11, 2006 6:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marshall, Marmol, Zambrano, Murton and Cedeno
that feels like a pretty solid foundation on which to build a future. Maybe not a near future, but anything can happen in baseball. At least it's been fun to watch for a change.

by teacher tom on Jun 11, 2006 6:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Al....
...a rotation of Zambrano, Maddux, Marshall, Marmol and Prior wouldn't be bad at all.

What about Wade Miller?  He should be back at the end of the month.  Would you just put Wood in the bullpen once he gets back?

by colossus on Jun 11, 2006 6:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, absolutely, I would.
He was lights-out as a setup man last year.

by Al on Jun 11, 2006 6:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And...
... if Miller is back and effective, that would likely send Marmol back to Iowa.

by Al on Jun 11, 2006 6:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marmol
What if Marmol stays in this form?  Do we trade him and get something we greatly need or let him wait until somebody is injured/next year?

by colossus on Jun 11, 2006 6:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh gosh, no...
... don't trade him. If there's no place for him on the ML roster, send him to Iowa so he can start every fifth day.

Bring him back in September, either as a starter or in the bullpen, and then he becomes a leading candidate for the 2007 rotation.

by Al on Jun 11, 2006 7:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holes....
You said in the main post that this team has a ton of holes, wouldn't it be worth trading him (as part of a package if needed) if it meant filling a couple of them?

by colossus on Jun 11, 2006 8:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the holes
on this team is starting pitching.  It makes no sense to trade an effective starter.

by cubsbak on Jun 11, 2006 9:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would be crazy...
To trade good starting pitching that the Cubs are paying practically nothing for. At this point, his trade value does not represent his possible upside, and it would be incredibly shortsighted and foolish to give him up to fill another hole when he could possibly be the future of this team's rotation.

Besides, we've traded way too many good pitcher prospects recently. Since this team has mainly gone with a home grown rotation in recent times, trading many more of our pitcher prospects could very well kill the Cubs rotation in 4 or 5 years.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Jun 11, 2006 10:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please
do not trade Marmol, Does, Dontrelle and Nolasco ring anyones bell. Marmol looks sharp, good idea, and really a good athlete
Where is Carmen Fanzone?

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Jun 11, 2006 10:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I almost wish...
that the cubs had been swept this series. The Reds had a chance to END the Cub's season for good, which might have caused a firesale. I think we need to acknowledge that the season IS over. We have NO chance (although I wish we did!). The Cubs need to give all of there young players experience now. We just need to suck it up, and let the rookies play (Guzman, Marmol, Ryu)...

We can have a very good team next year if we give our youngsters some time! Also, Wood's contract will be off the books, so I would expect Hendry will around $20-30 million (Wood's contract being $12 Million?)...

(we can pick up Carlos Lee with that kind of money!)

Git 'er done!

by KChiCubs on Jun 11, 2006 6:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not over
I think we need to acknowledge that the season IS over.

What happened to believe or leave?

by colossus on Jun 11, 2006 6:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think or Sink?
Ha, maybe the same thing happened to both?
What does not kill you makes you stronger.

by Pa on Jun 11, 2006 8:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Over?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Win when you can, lose if you must, but always CHEAT!!!

by aauummph on Jun 11, 2006 8:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"What
the @*&# happened to the BCB I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico!"--Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on Jun 11, 2006 8:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's do it!
Or lets hope the Cubs do it.  At least sometime when everyone on this board is still alive.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Jun 11, 2006 11:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hell No!
And it ain't over now!
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Jun 12, 2006 4:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hell No!
And it ain't over now!
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Jun 12, 2006 4:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not over by far
I can feel it, this team is about to become the greatest baseball story ever. Call me a crazy optimist, but remember last year at this time I was screaming for Dusty's sorry ass to be fired. 2006 is the year I have been waiting for.Starting pitching is coming around, D Lee is going to be back and Jim Hendry's about to redeem himself with a block buster trade. I feel It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by jimhickman on Jun 11, 2006 6:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the optimism!
I'm an optimist also. I still don't know about this season though. I will always have hope though.
Just hoping for .500 this year...

by coopergillan on Jun 11, 2006 7:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need
Pierre and Ramirez to start hitting the ball, then this team has a remote chance to get in the hunt. Hey lets get to .500, and go from there.
Where is Carmen Fanzone?

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Jun 11, 2006 10:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.
It's also just amazing to see a day like today. There was no DLee or ARam but the bottom of the order filled the void (Cedeno's home run at-bat was SOO great) and they got good pitching from a home-grown rookie.

I really think that Pierre is the key to this team. If and/or when he breaks out of his (basically season-long) slump and is getting on base and when Dusty finally finishes manager school and has a real lineup, this team could win some ball games.

I hope the Cubs get some good rest tomorrow and get ready to kick some Astro @$$!

Just hoping for .500 this year...

by coopergillan on Jun 12, 2006 12:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Release point
Al, when my middle son (the one you met Memorial Day weekend last year when we took the train up from LA) was 7 years old, and just out of t-ball, he had some pretty serious coaches.  One kept telling him to bend further on his throwing motion, but my son just didn't get it.  Finally, the coach said, "On your next throw, I want to see you reach down and pick some grass"--meaning to bend way down on the follow-through.  

So, on the next grounder, my son the literalist reached down, picked some grass, then grabbed the ball and threw it to first.  It was a pretty nifty move!

by zambranofan on Jun 11, 2006 6:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On ESPN Classic Sports
Is that great movie 8 Men Out featuring our neighbors to the south.
The Road to Omaha. 2006 College World Series starts 16 June

by sanantonecub on Jun 11, 2006 7:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone else find it strange
That we have had 3 triple A rookies start a game this year and they've absolutly stunk (not to meantion the number of relievers that have bounced between there and the big club).  While we have had 2 pitchers, Marshall and Marmol, come straight from Double A and do just fine thus far.
Chicks dig the bunt out.

by akcubfan on Jun 11, 2006 7:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not atypical...
...guys who "get it" routinely jump from Double-A up to the majors if they have good stuff.  AAA is full of players who are missing one or two things in their game and are trying to fine tune it.  The nice thing about Marshall and Marmol (so far) is that they both "get" pitching - working quickly, changing speeds, throwing stikes, hitting locations, and not trying to strike every guy out.

That's one reason why guys like Wood and (to go back in Cub history) Farnsworth are frustrating - they have million dollar arms but 10 cent heads when it comes to pitching.  Farnsworth blew another game today for the Yankees; Wood is looking like a guy who's game is designed for relieving since he only seems to want to strike every guy out.

by Chadnudj on Jun 11, 2006 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Million Dollar
arm, Wood? Yeah that is why he was born on the Disabled List. Wood wants to win in Chicago more than anyone. As I stated, and my opinion, Wood has had poor coaching from High School on up. No one has tried to change his mechanics until it was too late, hence numerous arm problems.
Where is Carmen Fanzone?

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Jun 11, 2006 10:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He doesn't...
seem to want to strikeout everybody anymore.  I think he just wants outs.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Jun 11, 2006 11:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree...
with your assessment of Wood. Over the last few years he really has become a smart enough veteran to "pitch" rather than just "throw" as they say. Granted he rarely takes the mound, but if you watch him, he has learned how to set up hitters and watch their reactions.

Of course its hard to see that when he spends all his time on the DL. But if Kerry Wood had a two year period without any injury (which isn't going to happen any time soon) I am convinced he would be dominant, even if his pitches aren't as electric as they were when he was 21.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Jun 12, 2006 12:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh?
"What if Marmol stays in this form?  Do we trade him and get something we greatly need..."

We greatly need starting pitching!!!!!!  So if Marmol continues pitching this well, why in God's name would you then... oh, forget it.

by TR on Jun 11, 2006 7:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed
There's nothing more valuable than an effective player from your system since you control his rights for a number of years before free agency.  If Marmol keeps it up, trading him would be about the stupidest thing you could do.

by cubsbak on Jun 11, 2006 8:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the Cubs are a long way from contending
but if Marmol continues to pitch well, Prior comes back and becomes effective, big Z keeps it up, D Lee regains his form, and Cedeno, Murton, and Marshall continue to improve, I'll be happy going into the off-season even if they don't make the playoffs.  That will set them up nicely for next year.

by cubsbak on Jun 11, 2006 8:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone heard
anything recently about where Lee is? I heard he's been taking grounders but hasn't picked up a bat yet, so I guess he's still a few weeks away. Wasn't the original target date June 13?

We've got tickets for the June 14 game and I have an almost-four-year old who is going to heartbroken that Dewwick Wee isn't going to be on first.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico!"--Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on Jun 11, 2006 8:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D'oh!
Should have checked Cubs Notes first:

Lee, on the disabled list since April 21 with a broken right wrist, said on Sunday that he'll take his first hacks since his injury next week.

Lee hopes to do some "dry swinging" on Tuesday. If his wrist feels good, he'll move on to soft toss, and if that goes well, he'll start hitting. He also hopes to start throwing next week.

"There's only so much you can do," Lee said. "So, when the wrist allows you to do stuff, you do it."

Lee admitted that the wrist doesn't feel as good as he thought it would. But he is learning how slow the recovery process can be, no matter how much he wants to rush back.

"It's extremely frustrating," Lee said. "Sometimes you just want to say, 'Forget it,' and run out there and play. It's been so long, it's finally nice to see some light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully, I'll be out there soon."

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico!"--Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on Jun 11, 2006 8:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought
Len said today he had started batting but not to expect him back any time soon.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2006 8:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd be...
heartbroken too if I didn't see D-Lee there.  I hope he has fun anyway.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Jun 11, 2006 11:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guys...
I really wish the Cubs could go on a tear and make it to playoffs, but I just don't think they can. We find ourselves, once again, 11 games back of the Cardinals. That is a HUGE margin! I wouldn't get my hopes up, because we have all disappointed by this team the past couple of years. The Cubs are not the 2005 Houston Astros nor are they 2003 Florida Marlins. Where is our Roy Oswalt? Where is our Miguel Cabrera? Hell, where is OUR Juan Pierre?

However, IF the Cubs can get back to .500 by the All-Star Break I think the Cubs MIGHT be able to contend.

Git 'er done!

by KChiCubs on Jun 11, 2006 9:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a huge if
considering their schedule.  They'll have to really clean up against the AL, which will be very, very tough to do.

by cubsbak on Jun 11, 2006 9:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How many wins to finish first in NL Central?
IF it's 90 games the Cubs need to go 64-36 the rest of the way.

No team has won the NL Central with 90 game or less since 1997.  

In 2001 the NL Central was won with 93 games.  

by DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2006 12:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right!
My back of the cocktail napkin calculation was wrong.  I wrote out the years 05-96 and I didn't even fill-in a win total for 03.

Thanks

by DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2006 12:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hope
we don't waste our time thinking we are in it, keep the deadwood till its too late, and then have an offseason where everyone is convinced injuries were the problem.  2 has been enough.

by mike bornemann on Jun 11, 2006 9:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry, mike.
I'm pretty sure no one will be convinced injuries were the problem.

This offseason will be different for me.  I've learned at least a little bit.

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Jun 11, 2006 11:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a slippery slope
Sparkles,

Actually thinking about the team vs. feeling for the team is the path to the Dark Side.

by Santos Sorrow on Jun 12, 2006 8:00 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, it's not...
... because you can, in fact, do both.

by Al on Jun 12, 2006 8:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL
I'm not going to the Dark Side.

Do you think I can stop 'feeling for the team'?  That's tough for me.

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Jun 12, 2006 10:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lets just keep up the winning....
If we win enough... The rest will take care of itself.... Still too early to give up...  Lets make it 4 tomorrow.... One day at a time...

by BillHoldenFan on Jun 11, 2006 10:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll always believe...
what's the point of being a sports fan if you aren't willing to hang to at least a thread of hope for your team's future.  With that said, although I still hope the cubs make the playoffs (if they did, i have doubt they could go all the way), its certainly not likely.  In fact, its EXTREMELY unlikely.  Right now, we are 26-36.  We have 100 more games to play.  I figure we will need to win between 90-93 games to clinch the wild card (its gonna be a tough year for the Wild Card).  Assumming it will only require 90 wins, the cubs will have to win 64 of their remaining 100 games.  For all you non-mathematicians out there, that requires a .640 winning percentage for the remainder of the season.  To give you some perspective, here are some winning percentages...
'05 White Sox - .611
'05 Cards - .617
'06 Cards- .597
Looking at these stats, are the '06 Cubs really so dominant that we can have a .640 winning percentage.  Realistically, I'd say we have a 2% chance of making the playoffs (that's assuming D Lee, Mark Prior, and Wade Miller all come back at 100%)
Hell, even if the Cubs win 8 of their next 10 (totalling an 11-3 run) we'd still need a .622 winning percentage.  

Suddenly I find the saying "just wait til everyone's healthy" has reached its pinacle of idiocy.  There's simply no time left for a team with such a poor on base percentage.

So we're stuck in a slump, it's only been a century...

by Old Style Heavy on Jun 11, 2006 10:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think...
the Wild Card is going to be 90 wins.  The National League as a whole doesn't look good right now at least to me.  That's why this year is an even bigger wasted opportunity. The NL Central was going to be weaker, and it would've been nice if the Cubs could've taken advantage.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Jun 11, 2006 11:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually...
the reds are on pace to win the wild card with 93 wins.  I think you are incorrectly associating a strong league or division with a higher wild card requirement.  In fact, its quite the opposite.  All that is required for a high requirement (like 93 wins) for the wild card is a few horrible teams, i.e. the marlins, pirates, cubs, etc. teams with such horrible teams obviously drive up other teams' winning percentages, hence requiring a higher winning percentage to qualify for the wild card.  EVEN AFTER LOSING 3 OF 4 AGAINST THE CUBS, THE REDS ARE ON TRACK TO FINISH 2ND IN THE CENTRAL WITH 93 WINS, hence I was being conservative when i estimated that it would only require 90 wins to win the wild card.  
On the bright side, the '05 astros were in the EXACT same position as us last year.  They were 26-36 and acutally lost their next 3 games, making them 26-39, before going on a rampage to have a winning percentage of .650!!!  so i guess there's still a remote degree of hope for us
So we're stuck in a slump, it's only been a century...

by Old Style Heavy on Jun 11, 2006 11:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should be...
"teams with such horrible WINNING PERCENTAGES obviously drive up..."
So we're stuck in a slump, it's only been a century...

by Old Style Heavy on Jun 11, 2006 11:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hope
faith, whatever, can extend beyond 100 games, you can hope for next year and admit you have more pressing means this year.

by mike bornemann on Jun 11, 2006 11:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm hoping...
in that way too.  I'm just hoping they aren't so horribly bad now because I actually want Z to get some wins and Marshall to have a nice rookie year.  I want Cedeno and Murton to prove plenty of people wrong.  That's what I'm hoping for.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Jun 11, 2006 11:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

correction
if they make the playoffs, i have NO doubt they could go all the way (simply because of the tremendous momentum it would require to make the playoffs)
So we're stuck in a slump, it's only been a century...

by Old Style Heavy on Jun 11, 2006 10:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In New Orleans
Worth $15 to see 50 Prior pitches?  I am debating right now.  Will decide tomorrow, I just don't know what I will see him do.

by cubbybear on Jun 11, 2006 10:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's only $15.
Do you really even have to ask?
The 2006 Chicago Cubs. Big league payroll...minor league team.

by bergs55 on Jun 11, 2006 11:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree.
I would go.  I love going to games.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Jun 11, 2006 11:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll try to go, it is worth it, you guys are right
90 pitches/$15 is only like .13 a pitch.  And the beer will be nice.

by cubbybear on Jun 12, 2006 12:20 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perfect for calling pitches.
Sec 119(right behind home plate), 17th row(a little higher than the scouts, but hey, it's two days notice).  I'll wear my home cubs hat.  Tell you guys about it after the game.

by cubbybear on Jun 12, 2006 12:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One other thing about the Pod Cubs....
I saw in the game thread that some people hadn't shaved since the last loss. Well, my boss told me I had to change my password at work on Friday afternoon. She asked me what I wanted my new password to be and I went with "gocubs".

And they haven't lossed since then. Or since I found my Ryne Sandberg autographed ball (pretty sure that was Friday also).

GO CUBS!

Just hoping for .500 this year...

by coopergillan on Jun 12, 2006 12:57 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Goal of 0.500
The Cubs get to .500 at or near the ASG then everything will be in play. Their sitting at 10 games below now. If they win each series the rest of June and take 3 off the Brew Crew then the Cubs will realize 0.500 by the beginning of July.
I ask why not. Please don't give me statistical reasons that the Cubs can't do it. I don't believe them. One game, one win each day.

The key is the starting pitching. If the Starters throw quality starts then this Cubs team will see 0.500 again.

Marmol will push the other starters to up their game.

I see good things for the Cubs coming.  

Cleverly Disguised as a Responsible Adult

by Scott G F on Jun 12, 2006 7:57 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know Aramis. Trust me Neifi, you're no Aramis.
Neifi stated the obvious when asked about his power.  The Trib quotes Neifi as saying "I am not even close to Aramis."

I'm glad he pointed that out.

by Richie Hebner 18 on Jun 12, 2006 10:49 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's no Kennedy either
It is common knowledge that Kennedy had good plate discipline.

I realize I probably took the fun away from your allusion. I apologize.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Jun 13, 2006 8:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"But if Kerry Wood...
...had a two year period without any injury (which isn't going to happen any time soon) I am convinced he would be dominant..."

As would Mike Harkey.  Let's hope Mike gets back soon.  I look for him to have his next dominant season right about the time Kerry Wood does.

by TR on Jun 12, 2006 11:05 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re
hence my inclusion of the phrase "which isn't going to happen any time soon". I have no hope for Wood. I was just disputing his claim that all Wood knows how to do is strike people out. I've seen him, and he has enough veteran savvy to know how to pitch.

Actually, all Wood knows how to do is to break down more than the car I had as a teenager.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Jun 13, 2006 8:17 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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