Open Thread: Cubs vs. White Sox, Sunday 7/2, 1:20 CT

by Al Yellon on Jul 2, 2006 10:19 AM CDT in Chicago Cubs Game Threads

Today marks the halfway point in the Cubs' season, the eighty-first game.

Since the 162-game schedule was instituted in the NL in 1962 (not counting strike years), the Cubs have been this bad through the first 81 games only twice: in 1966, when they tied the club record for losses (103), they hit the halfway mark at 25-56. In 1962, when they first set that club record for losses, they were 30-51.

They'll have to win today to avoid being the second-worst Cub team in the expansion era at the halfway mark.

Today's Starting Pitchers


C. Zambrano Cubs	vs.	M. Buehrle White Sox


6-3	W-L	9-4
2.95	ERA	3.22
112	SO	47
62	BB	28
12	HR	12
vs. Sox	--	vs. Cubs

Z is the only Cub pitcher to have beaten the White Sox this year; Buehrle also beat the Cubs during the series at the Cell in May. Z should have won his last start, but was the victim of Ryan Dempster's previous implosion.

As I pointed out back then, the Sox ought to start Rob Mackowiak vs. Z, as he is now 10-for-28 lifetime (.357) against him. Conversely, just as he did on May 19, Jacque Jones ought to sit today, since he is 1-for-27 lifetime vs. Buehrle, with 12 strikeouts. Derrek Lee, who missed the May series, is 3-for-3 in his career vs. Buehrle, with a 2B and a HR.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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My advice....

get out, enjoy the day, catch a movie, read a book, go have a picnic, go to the park, do anything else.

by Peoria Matt on Jul 2, 2006 10:28 AM CDT reply actions

Unlovable Losers

I was a NY Mets fan in the early 1960s. Their ineptness on the field only seemed to intensify Mets fans' rooting for their "lovable losers".

I see nothing lovable about this year's Cubs team.
They're losers, period.

"Everything that rises must converge"

by jpalaska on Jul 2, 2006 10:35 AM CDT reply actions

It's Baseball....

...it's Wrigley, it's the summer, I'll be watching.

by BeerCub on Jul 2, 2006 10:36 AM CDT reply actions

It's baseball...

I agree with BeerCub. It's Wrigley, it's summer.
C'mon, you are Cub fans. We are used to this even if we don't like it.

We may lose as many games as the '66 Cubs
but I still like the '66 Cubs better than the current team. Banks, Williams, Santo, Fergie Jenkins, Beckert, Kessinger. (and of course, Ernie Broglio, who we got for Lou Brock).

wccubfan

by wccubfan on Jul 2, 2006 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions

I will be

a Cubs fan til I die. Win or lose I will be there.

GO CUBBIES!!!!!

I loathe AJP even more now!!

by sue369 on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions

And in other news....

Go Mets. With Toronto likely to beat the fading Phils again today, a Mets win could push the Yankees into 3rd place.

With the Tigers and White Sox apparently trying to run away with the wild card and Boston starting to look really good, a Yankee appearance in the playoffs is looking dimmer by the day.

The only downside for Cubs fans is that King George will not like it and spend even more money. Someone like Barry Zito might in the Bronx next year. You know that Hendry will fold under the pressure of trying to outmaneuver the Yankees.

by rlpete on Jul 2, 2006 10:38 AM CDT reply actions

My money

is on 104 losses.

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jul 2, 2006 10:53 AM CDT reply actions

Do you

really think that they can win 58 games this year? With the Royals and Pirates winning yesterday and the Cubs blowing it they've taken another step towards the worst team in baseball record wise. I think they've already reached that honor in other respects.

by kessinger on Jul 2, 2006 10:59 AM CDT reply actions

I

was being generous.

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jul 2, 2006 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions

ya right

this team is playing better even though they still suck their not the worst team

by china423 on Jul 2, 2006 11:03 AM CDT reply actions

Is it possible?

Team W L PCT

Pittsburgh 28 54 .341
Kansas City 27 52 .342
Chicago 29 51 .363

Pittsburgh has Detroit, followed by the Mets and the Phillies. Kansas City has St. Louis, followed by Minnesota and Toronto. Chicago has the White Sox, followed by Houston and Milwaukee.
July 11th, is the all star game. Is it possible for the Cubs to be the worst team in MLB by then?

by leeeliasuperfan on Jul 2, 2006 11:12 AM CDT reply actions

record is one thing

worst team is another. Do you think KC and Pittsburgh have the same or better talent than the Cubs?

by MattThorton on Jul 2, 2006 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Worst Team?

KC plays in either the toughest or second toughest division in MLB. (I would argue the toughest.)

Pittsburgh and Chicago play in what may be the weakest division. (Actually, I would still argue NL West, but that's me.)

You can't go by record, because teams don't play a balanced schedule anymore. Pittsburgh and Chicago clearly "benefit" from a weaker schedule. On paper, the Cubs have more talent than the Pirates. However, the Pirates are also a much younger team with players entering their prime, rather than ahem, "veterans."

Stat line on June 28, 2006.

Pirates' Team Stats:

.259 BA, .325 OBP, .415 SLG, 346 R, 682 H, 86 HR, 226 BB, 546 SO, 526 LOB.

Cubs' Team Stats:

.260 BA, .310 OBP, .391 SLG, 293 R, 653 H, 61 HR, 173 BB, 377 SO, 483 LOB.

Very crude analysis reveals that the Pirates' offense is better at getting on base, but fairly poor at scoring runs (although still considerably better than the Cubs). The Pirates both walk and strike out more often, which means that they probably don't swing at the first pitch as much.

I would argue that the Pirates' line up is performing much better than the Cubs'. Unfortunately for Pittsburgh, their pitching is not as good.

Have U Ever Been Experienced? Well, Luis has...

by The Luis Salazar Experience on Jul 2, 2006 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions

It's raining here in Crystal Lake

what's it doing in Chicago?

by teacher tom on Jul 2, 2006 11:24 AM CDT reply actions

It's really cloudy and looks like....

it will rain. I'm on the North Side.

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jul 2, 2006 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions

All Star Selection tonite..

..which Cub will make it? Barrett or Z are the only likely choices, right?

Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Jul 2, 2006 11:36 AM CDT reply actions

Maybe Jones

by BeerCub on Jul 2, 2006 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think

There's a chance in hell any Cub hitter gets on the AS team. Z will be selected.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Ya Never Know

As I write this, Jones has a .306 average, 14 homers and 42 RBIs. Stranger things have happened.

by BeerCub on Jul 2, 2006 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions

All Star teams leaked

If you look at the diaries, there are links to the mlb.com shops for all star jerseys. The only player that made it for the cubs is Z

by Bleed Husker Red on Jul 2, 2006 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Note: Game on INHD

Dunno which announcers we'll get on the high def channel.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 12:38 PM CDT reply actions

Woooohoooo!

..they are airing this game on AFN!

vote santo for h.o.f.

by santo for prez on Jul 2, 2006 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Whee it's LenBob

Thank f'n GOD I don't have to listen to those idiots on the other channel.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Wanted: Dead or Seriously Mutilated

(1) White Sox Announcer by the name of "Hawk"

Must be dead, or seriously mutilated. A Zambrano no-hitter against the Sox will also suffice.
$10,000 Reward.

Consolation Prize:
Either Hawk or A.J. Pierzynski being hit in the face on national television. Or, Neifi hitting a grand slam. Caution, going after this prize risks 10 game suspension or heart attack of Cubs fans everywhere.
$1,000 Reward.

(Fine text: Reward payable from Chicago Tribune Co. Bank Account. They just don't know it yet.)

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:15 PM CDT reply actions

"Buster" and "Ace"

...must be listening to Al. Mackowiak is starting in center, and hitting seventh, and Angel Pagan is taking Jones' spot in right, hitting 6th. Now, if only "Ace" had been paying attention when Al explained why a Perez/Walker platoon at second didn't make sense...maybe that needs to go in boldface, too?

by Slats Grobnik on Jul 2, 2006 1:18 PM CDT reply actions

National Anthem going on

And an idiot wearing a white sox shirt is on his cellphone. It's the fourth of july weekend, dipshit! Show some #$%^ing respect to the flag!!!

(This message brought to you from an Airman in the USAF)

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:18 PM CDT reply actions

I was at the game on Friday...

...and some jackass Sox fan was talking during the moment of silence for Randy Walker. Class, class, class. In a nutshell, there's why I could never root for the Sox: like God, I may like and respect the entity, but I can't stand much of the fan club.

by Perkins on Jul 2, 2006 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions

What an awesome National Anthem-

Does anyone know who that was?

by SonnyJ9 on Jul 2, 2006 1:20 PM CDT reply actions

Michael McDermott

I love DVR's...I get to rewind to when they said who it was then go back live instantly :)

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

DVR's are cool

and so is watching this in HD. Especially since it keeps us from having to listen to the Hawk..

by LT on Jul 2, 2006 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm poor

And have no HD. I have to suffer :(

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Last name was McDermott

by LT on Jul 2, 2006 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions

There goes the perfect game/no hitter

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:24 PM CDT reply actions

Interesting post

From NSBB poster badgercub.

Scott Williamson on the SCORE right now. Good interview, he is talking about how Dusty plays the guys he has confidence in to the detriment of other players. Very diplomatically did not call them "Dusty's Favorites" but guys that Dusty has confidence in. Basically said that Matt Murton is getting a raw deal and should be allowed to work through his slump while playing every day. Also just said he expects to be traded so I think he is being totally honest trying to grease the wheels. Just said he hopes to be traded

by VS on Jul 2, 2006 1:30 PM CDT reply actions

pro dusty arguments

never tend to get to any sort of details, just "boo hendry" and ignore the rest.

by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jul 2, 2006 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Nice

Williamson earned some points with me.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions

There goes the shutout

And my sanity as hawk unashamadely forgets everything he learned in Clown school (err, announcer school)

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:31 PM CDT reply actions

Hmmm

When have I seen this before? Oh every previous game this year. Seems like we are being intimidated the the Chisox, because we are palying afraid of them.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jul 2, 2006 1:37 PM CDT reply actions

YAY!

2 on, nobody out! DLEE TIME!

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:39 PM CDT reply actions

DLEE SHOPS AT THE GAP

Hahaha! RBI + error allowing Cedeno to score.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:40 PM CDT reply actions

woohoo! we're not losing!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:40 PM CDT reply actions

We're Winning!!!

LEE RULES!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

Ramirez sac fly

Man I was hoping DLee would truck AJ, but he'd probably get injured then Z would get tossed or something.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

HOME RUN!!!!!

GO CUBS!!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

Wow, these guys look like they want to win

today. Keep it up! HR Barrett as I write!!

by LT on Jul 2, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

BARRETT GOES YARD

Wow this has all the makings of a classic.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

Murton double on first pitch

Guess he's realized that taking pitches with Dusty Baker as your manager = benching.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:43 PM CDT reply actions

Is it possible

that Lee's presence in the lineup really does affect the offense? Whatever it is, I'll take it!

by gravedigger on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

DEFINITELY..

..they need more depth and another thumper, but this offense is completely different without DLee. He makes everyone better.

vote santo for h.o.f.

by santo for prez on Jul 2, 2006 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions

ROFL NEIFI RIPS ONE?!?!?!?!?!

Pod Cubs?

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

YES!

5-2 CUBS!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

Neifi!

Will miracles never cease??

by LT on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

Pat Hughes

"Time for Cubs fans to have a little fun"

About. Friggen. Time.

by gravedigger on Jul 2, 2006 1:45 PM CDT reply actions

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

I <3 Zambrano

Where has this team been?

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:46 PM CDT reply actions

Miracle of Miracles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Jul 2, 2006 1:46 PM CDT reply actions

Holy

cow.

by gravedigger on Jul 2, 2006 1:46 PM CDT reply actions

Wow

Queues Twilight Zone music

by VS on Jul 2, 2006 1:47 PM CDT reply actions

Why can't they play

like this every game?!?!?

I loathe AJP even more now!!

by sue369 on Jul 2, 2006 1:48 PM CDT reply actions

Keep it up

The pale hoes can score some runs too.. Good inning. Go Z!

by LT on Jul 2, 2006 1:48 PM CDT reply actions

Pale hoes

Are what Ozzie will be looking to get after the game.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Can you believe...

...no runners left on base!!!

vote santo for h.o.f.

by santo for prez on Jul 2, 2006 1:49 PM CDT reply actions

1-2-3..

..and few pitches too. Z needs to keep the pitch count down so he can go deep.

vote santo for h.o.f.

by santo for prez on Jul 2, 2006 1:52 PM CDT reply actions

buehrle

is throwing softballs. glad its not us for once.

by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jul 2, 2006 1:53 PM CDT reply actions

Carlos

Hope he can be more conservative with his pitches as the game continues. Let's give the pen a day off. It would be great to get a CG for Big Z.

As for the offense, it almost looked like they knew what was coming in the first. I wonder if Buerhle is tipping his pitches. It was like batting practice.

by danimal15 on Jul 2, 2006 1:54 PM CDT reply actions

Hawk Sucks...

nuff said

by slink on Jul 2, 2006 1:55 PM CDT reply actions

Ugh Z is all over the place

5 run lead, please throw strikes.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 2:16 PM CDT reply actions

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06v6 v yw6bbu66u5b6bu6

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

I shudder

to think what you meant by that.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jul 2, 2006 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

That is the sound

of pounding a keyboard.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh OK

I was worried there for a moment.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jul 2, 2006 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Here we go

Another 7 run inning!

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 2:41 PM CDT reply actions

3-RUN BOMB BY NEIFI!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

WTFBBQ?

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 2:46 PM CDT reply actions

I

am speechless.

by gravedigger on Jul 2, 2006 2:47 PM CDT reply actions

Every dog

has it's day.

by Matt Allison on Jul 2, 2006 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Darn, after that homer

Walker is not going to start for a month.

by VS on Jul 2, 2006 2:48 PM CDT reply actions

A bit Late...

But Roger Dorn hits a 3R Home Run... who knew!

by BlueDWarrior on Jul 2, 2006 2:55 PM CDT reply actions

Ozzie can't manage his way out of a nutsack

Why would you waste Thome there? Ok, fine, HR. You're still down 5 and now you either lose Thome or Konerko. What a stupid move.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 3:10 PM CDT reply actions

agreed

I was wondering what Ozzie was thinking. Unless he's going to come into the game on defense.

by danimal15 on Jul 2, 2006 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

WTF???

It never ends!!!

I loathe AJP even more now!!

by sue369 on Jul 2, 2006 3:11 PM CDT reply actions

Not many comments since this game started

I guess everyone got smart and decided to do something else this afternoon.

by danimal15 on Jul 2, 2006 3:12 PM CDT reply actions

Rothchild getting booed

I love it!

by danimal15 on Jul 2, 2006 3:13 PM CDT reply actions

Zambrano's had it

He's been throwing meat all inning.

by danimal15 on Jul 2, 2006 3:14 PM CDT reply actions

He shouldn't have gone out there for this

inning. He's alresdy thrown 100+ pitches and had a six run lead. Dusty didn't even have someone warming up!

by VS on Jul 2, 2006 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Why do that

When you can allow Z to let a couple of runners get on base, then bring in Novoa who is a notoriously poor pitcher with men on base?

DIDN'T YOU SEE DUSTY READING THE SCOUTING REPORTS?!?!?!? HELLLOOOOOOOOOOO

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Z

As I've said many times before, pitch count is not a factor for CZ. He is a horse. He should be starting every fourth day, throwing 250 to 300 innings a year with 15 to 20 CGs.

by danimal15 on Jul 2, 2006 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions

except that

in his postgame comments Zambrano said that his knee was bothering him and he told Dusty he was done after the sixth. Dusty then asked him for one more inning. Why the hell put him back out there with 100 pitches thrown, a minor injury, AND a six run lead?

Stupid.

by pwhalen on Jul 2, 2006 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions

It actually..

...looked like he hurt it in the second inning.

vote santo for h.o.f.

by santo for prez on Jul 2, 2006 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions

If they lose this

I'm not sure we will win another one all year

by cubfan1023 on Jul 2, 2006 3:21 PM CDT reply actions

Whew

Nice play Ronny. Only one run, could have been much worse. And Santo's mic doesn't work. Nice.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 3:23 PM CDT reply actions

Pagan 1st career HR

We need a 2-pt conversion.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 3:26 PM CDT reply actions

Hawk

has been accusing the Cubs of stealing signs all day. He is without a doubt the most annoying man on the face of the earth.

by VS on Jul 2, 2006 3:31 PM CDT reply actions

I Want To

reach through the TV and strangle the babbling idiot.
And I'm a pacifist!

"Everything that rises must converge"

by jpalaska on Jul 2, 2006 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions

and now

according to DJ, there's someone in the center field lounge stealing signs and passing them to the Cubs through radios in their helmets. What kind of BS is this?

by VS on Jul 2, 2006 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

God

These guys may be the two biggest douchebags in baseball.

DJ: OMG we are losing?
Hawk: They must be CHEATING! We never lose!
DJ: I think Neifi is on steroids too!
Hawk: Let's make out.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I muted the game

and I'm listening to the internet radio feed. I synched up the audio with the TiVo. Much more relaxing.

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Jul 2, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

are u serious?

Did DJ really saw they were stealing signs and passing them through radios in their helmets?

These are the same morons that say that Juan Uribe is the most exciting player in the league. Juan Uribe.

by dkateeb on Jul 2, 2006 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

Before I muted them...

They were suggesting that he was merely tipping his pitches. When did they decide that the Cubs HAD to be stealing signs?

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Jul 2, 2006 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Who cares what the Hillbilly and Doofus say......

everyone knows that when the Sux win "they're the greatest team in the history of the world" and when they lose "everyone else is cheating".

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Jul 2, 2006 3:44 PM CDT reply actions

LOL

Set up perfectly for a Dempster blown save in the 9th. God help this team if they lose this one.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 3:49 PM CDT reply actions

I can't stand

those 2 either. I loathe them almost as much as I do AJP.

I loathe AJP even more now!!

by sue369 on Jul 2, 2006 3:52 PM CDT reply actions

WOW PAGAN!

We needed those insurance runs.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 4:00 PM CDT reply actions

Pagan will be starting in left tomorrow

by dkateeb on Jul 2, 2006 4:00 PM CDT reply actions

Maybe

Dusty usually benches guys after they have big games. I guess he thinks they need rest from circling the bases.

by grifdog on Jul 2, 2006 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Happy Birthday to Angel!!

I loathe AJP even more now!!

by sue369 on Jul 2, 2006 4:02 PM CDT reply actions

here we go..

by dkateeb on Jul 2, 2006 4:13 PM CDT reply actions

WHEW!!!

I loathe AJP even more now!!

by sue369 on Jul 2, 2006 4:17 PM CDT reply actions

Now that

the Cubs are leading 15 to 11 after the White Sox have batted for the last time in the ninth inning, how are the Cubs going to find a way to blow this game?

My bet is that they'll insist on playing the bottom of the ninth and score five "own runs" for the White Sox.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 2, 2006 4:21 PM CDT reply actions

seriously

you guys cant complain about hawk and dj when ron santo lets out those terrible death moan/whimpers/gurgles every time the Cubs lose.

by shawnhillegas on Jul 2, 2006 4:21 PM CDT reply actions

It's charming when Ronnie does it...

Hawk just sounds like a pompous ass.

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Jul 2, 2006 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Anyone

with ears has to complain about 'Hawk' and Urkel aka DJ. They are the Bataan Death March of broadcasters.

by kessinger on Jul 2, 2006 4:34 PM CDT reply actions

first of all

hawk is the most annoying commentator I have EVER heard. Secondly, A-Rod's contract for $27M is a bit steep. Are you sure that Texas is covering $10M / year for EVER year of his contract? If so, then I'm all for it.

So we're stuck in a slump, it's only been a century...

by Old Style Heavy on Jul 2, 2006 10:05 PM CDT reply actions

Hawk and DJ.

are flat out THE MOST ANNOYING THING I HAVE EVER HEARD ON TELEVISION.

they make watching the Cubs a chore. I don't know how they still have their jobs.

could you believe the way they were digging into Z? "I have never seen anyone this emotional!" Well, you have only seen him twice this year and both were in series-closing games in which the Cubs had dropped the first two games and badly needed the win. I would be pretty emotional too.

I seriously despise listening to them. They don't even talk about baseball. I would be ashamed to be a Sox fan even if just for that.

As a Cubs fan, The 2006 season will be remembered by me as....the first that I could buy Old Style cans with Cubs logos on them....

by coopergillan on Jul 2, 2006 10:50 PM CDT reply actions