Down in the minors
As some of you know from my blog, with the season going on like it is, I look at the minors as a diversion.
A prospect that some have overlooked is Donald Veal, who I recently rated the Cubs top prospect in my July top 10. Veal has pitched 18 2/3 scoreless innings after his callup to Daytona.
Typically there is a learning curve when being promoted, but Veal has jumped the curve. Veal was taken in the 2nd round of the 2005 draft and was rated the 2nd best prospect in the Northwest League last season by the managers there.
Anyway, when the Chicago Cubs get hard to watch, don't forget there a guys down in the minors that are working their tails off (for the most part) trying to get a taste of the big leagues.
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Good news about Veal!
Expectation Game
And once again the Cub management will have take potential steak and turned it into compost.
If Veal really is such an uber prospect, he should be fast tracked over the next season and a half, brought up in September 2007 and played, and given a real chance to be on the team as the last guy in the pen starting the 2008 season.
by Frustrated Fan on Jul 5, 2006 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
AGE
If Veal continues to pitch well at Daytona, I fully expect him to be at West Tenn late in the year.
Fast Track
by Frustrated Fan on Jul 5, 2006 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Definitely
That's not uncommon...
That's why you don't rush guys like this.
That always presents the difficult decision
IMO if a guy is doing well you promote him and let the results at the higher level dictate what you continue to do.
What I hate though is to see guys promoted who have not excelled. For example Dopirak and R Harvey both advanced a level after very poor years. They should have been sent back to the team they were on and earned the promotion.
Nice list but depressing
I'd change it somewhat but agree that Veal might be #1 now. I'm not as high on Gallagher. From what I've heard, he has an average fastball. Best projection might be mid-rotation guy. Dopriak is off the list for me too. Holliman appears to have talent. Good ratios.
Without too much in-depth work:
- Donald Veal LHP
- Eric Patterson 2B
- Felix Pie OF
- Sean Gallagher RHP
- Mark Pawalek LHP
- Mark Holliman RHP
- Mitch Atkins RHP
- Jake Fox C
- Randy Wells RHP
- Scott Moore 3B
The Farm System
by Mike63 on Jul 5, 2006 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Oh, wait. . .
You forgot to mention
by Mike63 on Jul 5, 2006 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Ryan Harvey
Ryan Harvey
Apparently Jim Hendry thinks the Cubs play in a softball beer league.
by Mike63 on Jul 5, 2006 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
i watched harvey
Hey, you gotta root for Jackson
Felix Pie
We now take you back to your regularly scheduled programming.
by Mike63 on Jul 5, 2006 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't me
Pie
Not giving up
Holliman
This might have been true.
Glass half full or half empty
Iowa (AAA) 40-44
WT (AA) 43-27 (1st half) 9-7 (2nd)
Daytona (HiA) 35-35 (1st) 9-2 (2nd)
Peoria (MidA) 41-28 (1st) 8-5 (2nd)
Boise (LoA) 6-10
Overall record: 191-158
For a system that does not have a lot of "old" players at each level this is pretty solid. Some MLB teams keep players on teams that are old for their level and their W/L ratios are much better b/c of it. The Cubs really don't do much of that.
True there are not a lot of top of the line stud propects but there is a good depth of talent.
That is pretty irrelevant...
by CosmicCharlie911 on Jul 5, 2006 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
good point
and years of high draft picks
As for the overall records I disagree still. It does show overall talent level of a system- true it is not a perfect correlation but if you have a bunch of shitty players the records will reflect that.
Fair Opportunities?
by Frustrated Fan on Jul 5, 2006 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Why o' why
No matter what, some Cub fans want to stubbornely insist that all products of our farm system are destined to be exceptional major league ballplayers. Seems to me Dusty Baker, the guy with the anti-youth label, has been solidly vindicated in the cases of Hee Seop Choi (playing in the minors for his 4th organization), Bobby Hill (playing in the minors for his 3rd organization), Jason Dubois (playing in the minors for his second organization) and Juan Cruz (sucking it up for his fourth organization). Corey Patterson utterly sucked (.254 OBP in 2005 to go along with 168 Ks) and was resistant to change, yet Dusty (and Don Baylor and Bruce Kimm before him) presided over Corey grabbing a whooping 1,700 major league at bats in a Cub uniform.
Give Dusty quality young players, and he will play them. But don't sit there with a straight face and tell me all the wondrous virtues of the crap cranked out by Jim Hendry's infamous farm system.
by Mike63 on Jul 6, 2006 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
What are you smokin?
And someone masquerading as a Cub fan want to stubornely insist that our farm system can't produce an exceptional major leaugue ball player!
You keep making these bogus knocks on each player and when shown factual statistics that prove you wrong all you can do is make fun of handicapped people and children. The more you post comments the more I realize that my mentally retarded aunt has a higher IQ than you do!
by santo for prez on Jul 6, 2006 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Furthermore..
There are 9 positions in the field and Ronnie Cedeno will be filling one of those for some team for years to come. Get over it.
by santo for prez on Jul 6, 2006 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Have Mercy on Me
That's essentially the excuse that you are giving for Baker and the Cubs. Just as someone who kills his parents can't plead for mercy becuase they are an orphan, the Cubs, who destroy young talent, can point to their failures and say that they were justified. By the time the Cubs and their "genius" coaches get through with a player he is usually too old to be a prospect and does not have enough MLB experience to be a useful veteran.
Oh, that's right, your s--t doesn't smell and you are always right.
by Frustrated Fan on Jul 6, 2006 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice argument, but...
by Mike63 on Jul 5, 2006 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
what about
More on Veal
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/hotsheet/261873.html
by escapegoat on Jul 6, 2006 5:56 PM CDT reply actions

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