Open Thread : Cubs vs. Pirates, Sunday 8/6, 1:20 CT

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2006 10:27 AM CDT in Chicago Cubs Game Threads

Last Tuesday, I was thinking about nominating Rich Hill for "Worst Cub of All Time". He responded with the best start of his career.

Sometimes reverse psychology works. Today, I'm just going to say -- I hope he continues the progress he showed against Arizona.

Today's Starting Pitchers


R. Hill Cubs	vs.	I. Snell Pirates


1-4	W-L	9-7
7.92	ERA	4.66
18	SO	110
19	BB	47
7	HR	17
vs. Pit	--	vs. Cubs

The Cubs have hit Snell pretty well in his three career appearances against them, including last April 16 in Pittsburgh. Take a close look at that box score -- there are no fewer than four players who appeared in that game for the Cubs who aren't on the active roster today (Derrek Lee and Freddie Bynum, on the DL, and Todd Walker and Jerry Hairston, no longer with the team).

Hill has never faced the Pirates. A win today would give the Cubs their homestand of eight or more wins since a 9-2 stand in 1998.

Note for the upcoming Milwaukee series: Juan Mateo will be skipped in the rotation; Carlos Marmol will go Tuesday, Carlos Zambrano Wednesday and Mark Prior Thursday... thus I'd expect Mateo to be available in relief.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Hill throws 7IN

4H, 2R, 3BB, 6K

Cubs win 7-2

This will be on darn diddily gosh exciting game!!!! (see no cussing)

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 10:30 AM CDT reply actions

Mateo

why is he being skipped? That's ridiculous. He showed great stuff and deserves another start.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 10:31 AM CDT reply actions

Need to put more innings on Zambrano's arm

if the team doesn't get him on the DL at least a few times before they start extention negotiations, Scott Boras is going to have them for lunch.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions

I assumed

it had something to do with Marshall coming off the DL. With that happening, we'd have:

Z
Prior
Marmol
Marshall
Hill

We could use having Mateo come out of the pen, but I'd kinda like to see him get another start.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Marshall isn't ready to come back...

He just threw his first bullpen session and needs a couple rehab outings, golly gee gosh darn it all to heck.

Oh, and the southpark movie taught me to just say M'kay.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Well, darn diddily darn

I had no clue Marshall wasn't ready to come back yet. That sure twists my noodle the wrong way. Any clue who will replace Mateo in the rotation?

This just really toots my gosh darn horn.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions

Oh hamburgers

I didn't mean to make you upset.

I'd like to see Ryu or Wells, but who knows what Hendry will do. He can be such a gosh darn jerk sometimes.

As I said in an earlier diary, I think Mateo is prime bullpen material, but I guess I wouldn't be totally opposed to seeing him for one more start, although I think Mateo is a boring old biddy.

bonus points if you can name that episode.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh butterscotch

I hadn't thought about Ryu or Wells. I don't see how Ryu could be any worse than his last start, he sure did tick off a lot of folk then!

Wells isn't on the 40-man roster. He could replace Wood once he gets moved to the 60 day DL. Hopefully Hendry is planning on DFA'ing some dog poopy player.

And the episode was Duffles.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions

butterscotch?

That is a little extreme there buddy. You aren't looking to spend a night in the box, are you?

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Its so PLEASANTVILLE here!

I wonder if Al is black & white still?

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Look at me!!!

I'm pasty!!!

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Gosh no

I sure hope Al won't punish me for such as harsh language as "butterscotch."

Gee, mister, I'm so sorry if that offended your sensitive and virgin ears.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Who the hell

are you guys and what have you done with colossus and CosmicCharlie911? LOL!!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Look below

I said that I've turned a leaf after a conversation with Al. I've stopped using such darn diddily darn foul language.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

and could you please watch the language

That word might offend some people.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL!!

Sure, unless the Cubs do something stupid...then I just can't help myself.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah they really should move....

Woody to the 60 day DL, as Al suggested. He won't be back this year, and nothing more than gosh dang stubbornness is keeping him on the 40 man roster right now.

In reality, they really could probably move Lee over to the 60 day DL too, but they never will. I don't really even want him back this year...contrary to Dusty belief, this season is very much completely over. My buddy had that same wrist injury, and he says some days it is still sketchy over a year and a half later, so I say just give Lee the rest of the season off.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions

I asked about Wood being moved to 60

day DL before Al suggested it if memory serves me correct. Not saying anything there, just saying.

I don't know why Wood would be opposed to moving to the 60 day DL. That's just gosh darn foolishness.

I hadn't thought about moving Lee. He'd be fine with it, he cares about the team. It seems pointless to have Theriot called up. He'll never get to play now that we're stuck with Neifi I, II, and III. I'd suggest bringing up Fontenot, but unless he can play 1B, he'd be rotting on the bench with Theriot.

This is just poopy!!!

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions

I want the Cubs to bring up...

Fontenot and two others all to play second base, so the Cubs can set the record for the most second basemen used by the club in one season (the record is 9 and they've used 7 so far). Since this season hasn't gone anywhere, I think it would be super keen to at least set a record somehow.

That would really be the bees knees.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey this is off topic...

but they are playing ren and stimpy right now on Nickelodean, if anyone cares. I haven't seen this on here in ages.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm watching Mythbusters

isn't anything else on.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Might as well

this season is already an abortion and has no chance of getting any better. It won't really matter if we bring up anyone for experience. We're stuck with Iziturus (like I care if I get his name right), Cedeno, and Neifi next year. I'd love for us to sign Lugo, but I doubt Hendry has the stones to admit defeat/wrong doing and get him.

And those who might be mad I used the term "abortion" to describe our season, look it up and you'll be surprised to discover that it has multiple meanings......imagine that.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions

DANG YOU DUSTY!

That was an angry ejaculation, if we're going to get all literary here.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions

still

funny?

by tomas21 on Aug 6, 2006 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions

no

that was about it from me

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions

it was clever

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions

good one

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions

I am torn

Gosh darn it, I don;t want a win to help the dustbag's cause, but I am also rooting for a perfect game from Hill...

by thisteamisajoke on Aug 6, 2006 11:23 AM CDT reply actions

Gee golly, isn't it tough

to have to pick between our players doing well or Dusty looking poopy and helping him get fired?

Jiminy jillickers are we in a pickle!!!

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions

How about a no-hitter through 9, but

the score is tied 0-0, when Dempster comes in in the 10th, gives up a walk, then a home run to Jason Bay. Hill goes 9 hitless AND the Cubs lose 2-0 in 10, seems like the scenario you're looking for.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions

My family and I will be at the Wednesday

night game. So far, the Cubs are 2-0 when my son Gabe is at the game. We're hoping to extend their streak. With Z pitching we can always hope. I was thinking that since Monday is an off day, doesn't that explain why the Cubs are skipping Mateo? We were thinking he'd pitch again when his spot comes up next time. Yes, no?

by teacher tom on Aug 6, 2006 12:38 PM CDT reply actions

It means

they need him in the bullpen more than the rotation and plan on calling someone up to start the game next Saturday.

But yes, it looked like he'd get another start, out bullpen just needs his arm.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions

no murton today

dustys a bitch

by china423 on Aug 6, 2006 12:43 PM CDT reply actions

You have to drop the "T"

cause bich is latin for generosity.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions

M'kay

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Lineup

Pierre
Izturis ss
Rocky
A-Ram
Jones
Pagan LF
Mabry 1B
Cedeno 2B
The Next Zito P

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:53 PM CDT reply actions

and can we please watch the language today?

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions

That means...

no 'funny' replacements either.

I read what happened. While I'm not against swearing(even though I RARELY swear), some of the comments above are pretty childish. Sorry if that sounds mean, but I thought I would say something because if it continues it's going to get very annoying.

Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on Aug 6, 2006 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh butterscotch

I'm so sorry to say anything that might offend or tick you off. After a talk with Al, I've turned a leaf and will stop my darn diddily darn foul language.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Annoyance

is their primary objective, I have come to believe.

They played hard. They did their best. Move on. Their whole life isn't out in that field. It's their job. It's not an obsession.

by McHuge on Aug 6, 2006 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Yep

That makes perfect sense. CosmicCharlie and I were trying to annoy each other earlier, you know, since were the only people dedicated enough to the team to be here so early.

Yep, great thinking there.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions

CosmicCharlie911

We should go to a game and sit with Al in the bleachers. I'm sure Al would love to have us. Wouldn't that just be oodles of fun?!?!

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:06 PM CDT reply actions

With some of the drunk morons...

that populate the bleachers, I'm sure we would only be minorly annoying.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Ha

Maybe. We should ask and see what he thinks. If he says he's cool with it, we should definitely go.

Do you live in the city?

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Answer?

Want to or not? I'll e-mail Al and ask him if that's okay.

We'd have to get tickets, maybe he could hook us up.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Ian Snell

is looking to become the Pirates' first 10-game winner this year...the team's only pitcher with at least 10 wins last year was Dave Williams, who was 10-11.

Man, there is no way to make this game sound exciting.

by Short4Fanatic on Aug 6, 2006 1:07 PM CDT reply actions

Murton

seems like a pretty well-spoken guy.

by false cognate on Aug 6, 2006 1:08 PM CDT reply actions

He uses too many baseball buzzwords...

for my taste.

I cringe every time I hear "taking it one day at a time" or "not trying to do too much" among other lines.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Boooooooooooo

Boo-urns. Boo-urns.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:16 PM CDT reply actions

Jiminy Jillickers!!!!

Hill had great stuff against Duffy.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:24 PM CDT reply actions

I hope they break

their pattern they have going for this month, win, lose, win, lose, win, so that would make today lose. GO CUBS!!!!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 1:26 PM CDT reply actions

Who thinks I should do my

daily "no-hitter" routine?

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:27 PM CDT reply actions

It was only an inning..

...But Rich Hill still looks good.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 1:29 PM CDT reply actions

I concur

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

He's looking like....

....his AAAA self right now.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions

4K's in 2 IN, 1 H

Yeah, that's horrible.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Well...

...You misunderstood what I was saying. My point was that he's pitching like he does down in AAA (or "AAAA" for him). Lots of Ks, dominant for the most part.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Let's not get ahead of ourselves

It was always patently ridiculous to call Rich Hill a "AAAA" after only 40+ Major League innings, especially considering the AMAZING numbers he was putting up at AAA. That being said, two starts doesn't make a career.

I think it is clear judging from Hill's AAA statistics, he has the highest "ceiling" of any of our pitching prospects in the Majors. Its time to get him some innings and hopefully make a run at Zito this off season. Having Zito's knowledge and experience from the left side would be absolutely invaluable to the development of Hill and Marshall. This is a REAL REASON to overpay for his services.

If that happens, we actually might have something to look forward to in 2 or 3 years.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions

I love

Rich Hill!!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

He seems to be

the only exciting thing about this otherwise dull game.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

It's early

yet. Lots of time for exciting things.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Good Job, Umps

Made the right call and put Ronny on first.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:02 PM CDT reply actions

good call

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 2:02 PM CDT reply actions

wooohooo

Cubs score!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 2:07 PM CDT reply actions

Cesar! Cesar!

Sends Ronny "No Catch Single" Cedeno Home!!!!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:07 PM CDT reply actions

Darn, what can Cubs fans complain about?

Man, Hill pitching well, Cedeno got on, the call went our way, Izturis got an RBI hit, elevating his batting average. Heck, even Pierre's lineout to 3rd was a good at bat.
Thankfully, it is still early.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 2:09 PM CDT reply actions

I can complain about

only having scored one run. I'd like for Barrett and A-Ram to get homers.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Ross, you must be new here

It's only the fourth inning...there's plenty of time for stuff to happen. There's only a one-run lead, too. Have you seen the Cubs 1-run record?

I don't stop being nervous until the last out is called and I see the white flag fly over the scoreboard.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Gosh

Hill sure looks like a prospect now. Too bad the dustbag was too obtuse to see that earlier this year.

by thisteamisajoke on Aug 6, 2006 2:13 PM CDT reply actions

I still love

Rich Hill!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 2:16 PM CDT reply actions

It's still funny to think...

...that Rich Hill is currently the oldest pitcher in the Cubs' starting rotation. I REALLY hope that Hill's last start and his start so far today indicate his true pitching ability (and match his AAA numbers). It would be a dream come true to see him dominate for the rest of the season and have a "solid" starter for next season.

Please, let me dream...

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

me too

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd trade him

as part of a package for a star.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks for the laugh

I love things like that. You would trade Rich Hill for a star? Really. Do you have Jedi mind trick ability? Perhaps photos of other GMs in compromising positions? Why do you assume you could make a trade that the current organization could not make?

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Well......

If you look at what I said, I said as part of a package. Throw in more players and we could get someone.

I would have traded Prior last off-season for Tejada in a heartbeat. Hendry said no. Great job, Hendry.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions

I think it had more to do with the Orioles.....

preferring Z over Prior.

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Aug 6, 2006 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Nope

Baltimore said Tejada for Prior as a one-for-one. Hendry said throw in Bedard. Baltimore said if you want Tejada and Bedard you have to give us Z. Hendry said no.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Since we've done so well

Whenever we bring in veterans anyway...

Lets trade the only home-grown young talent we have. Sure.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions

If it would make us a better team

why not?

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

That was the purpose of the

"We've done so well when we've brought Veterans in" comment.

We DON'T do better when we bring in "stars"

We need to grow some home-grown talent, and keep what we develop. Why pick up yesterdays all-star when you can have today's and tomorrows?

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions

We don't have them

Our farm system sucks. Next season is going to depend on signing big name FA's.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Exactly my point.

Our farm sucks. So when we actually have someone good and promising that will look good in a Cubs uniform in the years to come, we're going to get rid of him?

That's what minor market teams like Kansas City do. They're always in that playoff race, too.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Except thant Kansas City

doesn't go out and spend big bucks on FA's to make their team better. Our payroll will increase next year and we'll be better bc of the additions we make.

They trade away people bc of price and/or knowing they won't be able to resign them.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Our payroll was $95 Million this year

Payroll increase means nothing in terms of on-field performance.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions

I know that

but it'll increase bc we go out and sign impact players. You know, like C-Lee.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Why in the heck

qould you want to trade Hill? His curve makes him the most promising starter prospect we have. We have other fodder to trade for a star.

by thisteamisajoke on Aug 6, 2006 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

Why wouldn't I want to trade him

He and couple of other players could get us something that would help us win. I'd do it, just like I would have traded Prior for Tejada.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

The flaw in your logic....

... is that you assume that Tejada would have more of an ability to help the Cubs win than Hill or Cedeno would. Certainly, Tejada's current success in driving the Orioles to the AL East pennant this season is remarkable.

Plus, you assume that the Orioles would be willing to trade Tejada for guys who you desperately want to get rid of. Here's a hint. They don't.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions

What was I thinking

Trying to trade an injury prone pitcher who has one win in the past 11 months for an All-Star who's hitting .333 with 19 HR and 78 RBI.

Yep, I'm glad Hendry didn't trade Prior for Tejada last off season. He totally made the right move there.

You also have to look at the talent Tejada has around him in Baltimore. Imagine if he was here with A-Ram, Lee, and Barrett. Keep in mind, trading for Tejada would have caused a ripple effect, so D-Lee might have never gotten injured bc it would alter the events of that game. The ripple effect could end up having a negative effect though, but looking at our season, how could it have lead to anything worse?

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions

The problem with this line of thinking is...

...players have to pass physicals before a trade is completed. Given Prior's history, I'm sure Baltimore would have insisted on one, and they probably would have pulled out of the trade once the results came in.

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2006 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions

YAY RONNY!!!!!!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 2:29 PM CDT reply actions

RONNY!!!!!!!!!!!!

No need for an Umpire talk for that one!
INTO THE BLEACHERS!!!

PIT0 CHC4

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:30 PM CDT reply actions

Ack!

There is no wave at Wrigley, people!

They played hard. They did their best. Move on. Their whole life isn't out in that field. It's their job. It's not an obsession.

by McHuge on Aug 6, 2006 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

What is going on?

Cub fans doing the wave?

Gee willikers, we don't do that on the North Side.

by thisteamisajoke on Aug 6, 2006 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

The Wave

It used to be fun. Now it's annoying. AND DON'T DO IT WHEN YOU'RE ON OFFENSE, IDIOT!!! THERE'S A GAME GOING ON, REMEMBER!?!?!?!?

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

This is...

now the lowest point of this season.

They played hard. They did their best. Move on. Their whole life isn't out in that field. It's their job. It's not an obsession.

by McHuge on Aug 6, 2006 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

It never was fun

and was always annoying.

by rlpete on Aug 6, 2006 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Well, when I thought it was fun

Is when I was 12. And it was in round stadiums where a wave might actually look good.

Wrigley, you just go 'huh?'

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

OK

I'll give you that it was fun when you were 12.

by rlpete on Aug 6, 2006 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions

The Wave?

I can't believe it. How embarrassing. I've never seen that before at Wrigley. It might be time to start rooting for a new team.

by cubsbak on Aug 6, 2006 2:33 PM CDT reply actions

The Wave?!?!?!?!

WTF!!!!!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Aug 6, 2006 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

Hate the wave

Ugh. The wave? I can't stand it at Dodger games, and now to see it at wrigley. ick.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

Nice catch,

Izturis. Remember to bring your gold glove for next game.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 2:38 PM CDT reply actions

In his defense

I'm not sure many could make that grab. Odd angle, and the sun does crazy things.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions

True...

But it didn't seem like he made a great effort to get it.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Hard to catch it if you can't see it

Cut him some slack. Catching a pop-up in the sun is tough.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions

But

not many are Gold Glovers, so he should have had it. That's what defines a top notch defender. Making the plays that not many can.

The definition of insanity is repeating the same actions over and over and expecting a different result.

by sandbergfan on Aug 6, 2006 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Izturis

May be a good defender, but I haven't seen it yet. Len and Bob seem awfully apologetic for him so far.

by cubzfan on Aug 6, 2006 2:38 PM CDT reply actions

WTF? Wave?

What in the holy hell was that wave crap? I'm sure Al was one of those booing.

Dirka. Dirka dirka. Muhammed jihad.

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 6, 2006 2:38 PM CDT reply actions

It's sooo arena.

Boo that puppy down!

"The good news is, the Cubs have reached rock bottom. The bad news is, they've started to dig." Bob V., May 2006, WGN Baseball Blog ...

by Littlerock Rynofan on Aug 6, 2006 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions

You can't say that..

.."WTF?"....if there is a nine year-old reading this, they will ask there parents what that means.

"They X-Rayed my head and found nothing." - Jerome "Dizzy" Dean

by santo for prez on Aug 6, 2006 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Good catch

We should e-mail Al and report him/her/it.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Calm down, Rich

You have a comfy lead. Just take a deep breath and do what you do best - pitch well.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:38 PM CDT reply actions

Critical inning for Hill

A little adversity, a first batter walk, he had to run the bases last inning. This is a critical inning for him.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 2:39 PM CDT reply actions

Nice Job, Hill

Gave up a lead-off walk, but it turned out to be no harm done.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:42 PM CDT reply actions

A-Ram

Lets take two!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:48 PM CDT reply actions

come on JJ

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 2:49 PM CDT reply actions

What the hell kind of baseball was that

That's the crap I see in AA-San Antonio!

Atleast the run scored, I think.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 2:50 PM CDT reply actions

Wrong

Even they know how to run the bases in AA.

by thisteamisajoke on Aug 6, 2006 2:51 PM CDT reply actions

Ok, now there is something to complain about

Jones. Putting on a baserunning clinic of what not to do. Kids, hope you were watching.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 2:52 PM CDT reply actions

come on Rich

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 2:55 PM CDT reply actions

Huh?

Can someone give me the color commentary on the inning-ending double-play?

(I'm on GameDay)

thanks,

by Romero on Aug 6, 2006 2:56 PM CDT reply actions

Infield in

ground to ss wilson, both runners go, ramirez caught running back to second, and the goofball jones caught retreating to first.

Typical dusty fundemantal baseball.

by thisteamisajoke on Aug 6, 2006 2:58 PM CDT reply actions

I REALLY LOVE

Rich Hill!!!!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 2:59 PM CDT reply actions

I'm sure you're

his biggest (and only) fan.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions

could be

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions

If Hill keeps this up...

...it's hard NOT to be a fan. Do you not like it when the Cubs pitch well?

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions

I like it

but it just takes more than two good starts against less than stellar teams for me to become a fan.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions

re

Last Tuesday, I was thinking about nominating Rich Hill for "Worst Cub of All Time".

Jesus Freaking Christ, you take your sample size seriously, don't you?

What logical person would proclaim a pitcher with 40+ innings as the worst player in an organization than has been around for over 100 years?

Peter: "Brian, there's a message in my Alphabits! It says, 'Oooooo!'"
Brian: - "Peter, those are Cheerios." - Family Guy

by VS on Aug 6, 2006 3:09 PM CDT reply actions

You realize that was a joke, right?

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Doubt it

He said the same thing last Tuesday or whenever it was.

Peter: "Brian, there's a message in my Alphabits! It says, 'Oooooo!'"
Brian: - "Peter, those are Cheerios." - Family Guy

by VS on Aug 6, 2006 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions

who said that?

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions

come on Rich..

suck it up buddy.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:12 PM CDT reply actions

Ouch.

Atleast it was an empty-baser.

I'm still impressed with Hill's 9 K's!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:12 PM CDT reply actions

I'm very impressed with...

...his control and lack of walks.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions

OK,

I spoke too soon.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions

The Pirates...

are 15th in the NL in walks. If there is any team that Rich Hill should dominate, it's the Pirates.

They played hard. They did their best. Move on. Their whole life isn't out in that field. It's their job. It's not an obsession.

by McHuge on Aug 6, 2006 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions

ack...

come on Rcih...one more out!!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:15 PM CDT reply actions

Rich

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions

103 Pitches

9 K's, 5H, 1HR, 2BB

Great job, kid. Now let the bullpen win it for ya!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:17 PM CDT reply actions

My prediction was

7IN, 4H, 2R, 3BB, 6K

Kinda close.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Congrats.

Here, have a prize.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Be careful with what you say...

...or you might end up as a quote in his signature.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions

I doubt that

The quote from Al is most likely staying. I have something I'd really like to put there instead, but Al would get a bunch of e-mails, he'd send me another e-mail about how I pissed some people off bc apparently they overreact and act like the internet is serious business.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes, you are obviously very proud of yourself.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Would you like to see it?

Send me an e-mail at colossusofchicago@gmail.com (e-mail addy is in my profile too) and I'll tell you what it is. It's really good.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

whew!!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:18 PM CDT reply actions

The high strike

I think what has been helping him today is getting that high strike called or swung at consistantly. It is good to see him pitching effectively, but Hill still might have a problem with a more patient team that doesn't swing at those, or an umpire who doesn't call the high strike.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 3:18 PM CDT reply actions

What's with all

the gosh darn naysayers?

by thisteamisajoke on Aug 6, 2006 3:25 PM CDT reply actions

It is not meant to be a nay-sayer

I am not trying to downplay his performance, merely point out the difference that I say between this start and his early starts. He has obviously changed something and is doing something right.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions

come on Bob

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:27 PM CDT reply actions

I just joined the thread

Why the hell is Hill still out there? Len and Bob are glossing over the fact he's 100+!!
Enough with the comedy capers! The guy is funny, but Hill should be O-U-T!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Aug 6, 2006 3:29 PM CDT reply actions

Oh never mind

Too much comedy not enough on the change

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Aug 6, 2006 3:31 PM CDT reply actions

lol

That's why I never like watching the eighth inning on a Cubs broadcast...

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Len and Bob

just got a major TV news scoop. As far as I know, that's the first confirmation of a sixth season for CYE and the first announcement of when shooting begins.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 6, 2006 3:37 PM CDT reply actions

never watched the show

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions

It contains cussing

so no one should watch it.

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions

that would not

bother me, I've just never watched it.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Colossus

Is just being his usual self-righteous self.

It's on HBO, so if you don't have HBO, you haven't seen it.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 6, 2006 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions

YAY Angel!!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:42 PM CDT reply actions

Sacrifice for Angel

And another run on the board for the Cubbie Bears!

PIT1 CHC6

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:42 PM CDT reply actions

Dear Dempster,

One-Two-Three-Done.

Please???

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:44 PM CDT reply actions

yep

just like yesterday... 3 up - 3 down.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions

One down...

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions

Okay

Didn't get the memo.

How about One-Three-Four-Done?

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:48 PM CDT reply actions

come on Dempster

get this over with.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:51 PM CDT reply actions

A double play would be very nice right here

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:51 PM CDT reply actions

I guess a K also works

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

2 down

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:52 PM CDT reply actions

DEMPSTER - STOP F'ING UP MY FANTASY TEAM!

Look Ryan, you can't get the save, but you can try to not give up a couple of hits and meaningless runs that are going to cause me to lose my head to head battle tis weekend.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 3:52 PM CDT reply actions

Why do you have Dempster.....

on your fantasy team to begin with??

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Aug 6, 2006 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Because my other closers got hurt

It was need based, not desire based.

The best advice I can give you, to drink from the loving cup: When you are wrong, just admit it. And when you are right, just shut up. -Judge Thomas Adams

by Ross on Aug 6, 2006 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Holy Mackeral! Hey Hey!

Go Cubs Go, Go Cubs Go
Hey Chicago whaddya say? The Cubs are gonna win today!!!

Nice Homestand, everyone!

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 3:53 PM CDT reply actions

YESSSSS!!

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:53 PM CDT reply actions

Good game Cubs

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 3:56 PM CDT reply actions

FSN Pittsbugh

has the shot which shows the ball hit Wilson's foot.

No cussing, either.

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Aug 6, 2006 3:57 PM CDT reply actions

Arne Harris

is missed. His crew would have had that shot.
WGN's tech coverage has gone downhill.

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Aug 6, 2006 3:59 PM CDT reply actions

then don't

watch them any more.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions

The look on Rich's face

After Len mentioned a pie-in-the-face coming was priceless.

Go Nebraska Football! Beat USC!

by sanantonecub on Aug 6, 2006 4:00 PM CDT reply actions

yes it was.LOL

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Then what?

I was discussing the fact that WGN's coverage USED to be better than any Network. What kind of silly comment is that?

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Aug 6, 2006 4:04 PM CDT reply actions

"lamenting" would be a better

descriptive term than "discussing." Isn't that why we are here? To make observations other than "YESSSSS?"

Wow, grow up.

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Aug 6, 2006 4:06 PM CDT reply actions

can't we all just get along?

"Incidentally, Colossus was right and I was wrong about Maddux being dealt." -Al Yellon

by colossus @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 6, 2006 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions

I stand by

my statement. If you don't like what WGN has to offer then don't watch them.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Is it safe to assume that you like

everything the Cubs have had to offer this year then, and that you haven't had one negative word to say about the team?

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Aug 6, 2006 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions

I've not liked

everything they have had to offer and I've complained several times. I've even said they sucked when they have.

He just came on here new today and had nothing positive to say at all and just rubbed me the wrong way. I'll get over it.

I can't wait for Iowa football!!

by sue369 on Aug 6, 2006 5:03 PM CDT reply actions

Great Game Rich...

Here's to a lefthanded presence in the future rotation (hopefully)...assuming no Zito.

by thekansasian on Aug 6, 2006 5:06 PM CDT reply actions

I'm worried...

That we'll trade him in a package for a veteran pitcher who goes down hill (no pun intended) once he joins the Cubs. Meanwhile, Hill proceeds to dominate in his career with another team.

Good thing the Cubs have never done something like that before.

by thing85 on Aug 6, 2006 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions

They might keep him...

just because they now can't even pretend to count on Kerry Wood as a starter ever again, and they desperately need to fill their rotation. If Glendon Rusch ever spends a significant amount of time starting again there may well be riots on waveland and sheffield.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions

True...

We are pretty stockpiled with pitchers. Yet I don't know if any combination of them yields a WS winning rotation. Between Z, Marshall, Marmol, Hill, Mateo, and Prior, we're pretty well covered. Mateo, as posted before, will probably move to the bullpen. I think we need at least one upgrade for a solid rotation.

by thekansasian on Aug 6, 2006 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Here's my take on the current pitchers

Z: Obviously big time number one...one of the best in baseball

Hill: I really don't know what to say about him. I really thought that, with only two viable pitches (his change IS pretty weak) and his age that he would never be a top shelf pitcher. The one thing that I was wrong about that I have noticed is that his fastball isn't as subpar as I originally thought. It is of the "riser" variety with decent tailing action, and when thrown at the top of the zone people have trouble catching up with it. That said, Wrigley will always be dangerous for him, as it is with most flyball pitchers, and he really needs to be able to work that change into counts more often. I have not once seen him use it as an out pitch, and after he makes a few trips through the league, I fear that guys are going to start figuring him out.

Marmol: Very high ceiling (he might be the best of our "prospect" pitchers, but desperately needs time in the minors to develop consistent mechanics and get in better shape. If he can come out consistently throwing 95 with his moving fastball and sharp slurve and plus change (supposedly he also has more of a curveball too: the slurve is thrown about 80 mph and the curve around 75) and command the plate, he has ace written all over him.

Marshall: I really like Marshall a lot, because he has a veritable arsenal of pitches (sinker, splitter, cutter/sharp slider, and of course the curveball) and he really has a great head for the game. I think that if he fine tunes his control, he has very good potential to project as a better version of Mark Mulder.

Prior: Who knows whether the rest of his career will consist of the marksman, or the wild, inconsistent curve-hanger. Lets hope the former. At his best, he is, of course, really good.

Mateo: I don't see him as a starter. He was originally pitching in the bullpen in the minors system, and has the making of a very solid reliever. Also, he seems quite poised. As I said in my diary earlier this week, he is very Bob Howry-esque stuffwise.

The best bets in our system:
Don Veal: supposedly the next D train
Sean Gallagher: fearless, with good control and an arsenal of pitches including a great curveball and nice sinker.
Mark Pawelek: Very raw right now, but only 19, with a big time plus curveball and change, and a high octane fastball all coming from a lefty.
Jeff (I can't spell the last name) Samardzija: still raw, since he's spent a lot of his time doing football, but potential for a great fastball and already has a filthy slider.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions

This is a really good analysis...

... and thanks for doing this in detail.

Of the "best bets", I really like Gallagher, though I think he's at least two years away.

Samardzija (you got it right!) can throw 99 MPH and might be best suited to being a closer.

by Al Yellon on Aug 6, 2006 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Samardzija.......

doesn't hit 99 on the gun.....that was some big time exaggeration by the Cubs media department. He hits in the mid 90's.

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Aug 6, 2006 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions

He does have a chance to sit...

in the mid to upper 90s though. He's never fully committed to baseball, and this means that, although he went through college already, he is still relatively raw.

Plus his slider is already rated as one of the best in the system.

by CosmicCharlie911 on Aug 6, 2006 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions