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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Giants, Friday 9/1, 1:20 CT

Back in May, when the Cubs were in San Francisco, I wrote that when the Giants come to Chicago and Barry Bonds comes to the plate:

stand up in your seat, turn your back on him, and remain completely silent. Can you imagine the reaction if an entire stadium went silent on a Bonds at-bat?
That'd register displeasure with Bonds far better, I think, than the booing he's heard everywhere else on the road.

That said, there likely won't be more than one opportunity to do that today. The Giants played a night game in Atlanta yesterday; thus, Bonds will probably not be in the starting lineup, though he could pinch-hit.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Rich Hill
 R. Hill
Cubs
vs. Noah Lowry
 N. Lowry
Giants
3-6 W-L 7-7
5.81 ERA 3.75
40 SO 70
29 BB 48
12 HR 16
vs. SF -- vs. Cubs

Rich Hill has thrown far better lately; his start against the Cardinals on Saturday was probably the best one of his career, issuing no walks and one run in seven innings, and winding up with a no-decision. He has made two career starts against the Giants -- this year on May 9, and his first major league start, last July (after he had made three relief appearances).

Barry Bonds is 1-for-10 with four walks against the Cubs this year, and has not appeared in Wrigley Field since 2004. He has hit 24 lifetime HR at Wrigley Field, but none since August 11, 2001, off Joe Borowski, who made the only start of his major league career that day.

For discussion of Paul Sullivan's off-the-wall rebuilding scheme for the Cubs, hie yourselves over to this diary.

MLB.com Cubs Gameday

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Most laughable....
Gary Sheffield:  How long would it be before he refused to play or demanded a trade?  He is a bigger tool than Nevin.
he hath no fury like a cubs fan scorned

by timeforachange on Sep 1, 2006 10:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sick of
the kiddie corp rotation.  
Forget Zito, Soriano, Schmidt, Matsuzaka & Lee. Its Eaton, Kennedy, Wood, Pierre and a backup RH OF instead.

by CubFaninCA on Sep 1, 2006 10:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Every pitcher...
... who has succeeded in the majors, was a "kiddie" at one time.

That said, yes, the Cubs need better than Z + The Four Kids.

I'd say if one or two of those rookies can succeed, that'd be great. The other rotation slots must be filled by trade or free agency.

by Al on Sep 1, 2006 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just want to see Rich Hill
continue to develop and post quality starts
Holla at cha boy, CubFaninCA....Freddie "Boom Boom" Bynum!!!

by TheBeerBaron on Sep 1, 2006 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree.
I can't remember the last time we had a quality left hander in the rotation.

by Kornchex on Sep 1, 2006 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?????
Are you telling me that Glendon Rusch isn't quality?
:)

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about
Shawn Estes?
"When things are at their blackest, I say to myself, 'Cheer up, things could be worse.' And sure enough, they get worse." - Robert Asprin

by Jesse Guam on Sep 1, 2006 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about
Shawn Boskie?
"It's hard to put your finger on it. You have to have a dullness of mind and spirit to play here." --Jim Brosnan

by cubbiejulie on Sep 1, 2006 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least Boskie has a place in history...
Can you tell me what that place is?  I guarantee you still see this clip at least a few times a year.
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by jonpyardi on Sep 1, 2006 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cub lefty
The last time the Cubs' rotation regularly featured a lefty (I think), was in 1993 when Sox castoff Greg Hibbard won 15 games for the Cubs.

by danimal15 on Sep 1, 2006 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boskie
was a righty.

by danimal15 on Sep 1, 2006 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No takers to this history question?
I'm tired of waiting, Boskie gave up the HR to Cal Ripken on the night that Ripken broken Lou Gehrig's consecutive games record.  

That being said, it could've been the game that he tied Gehrig, as he homered both nights.

Oh well, good ole' Shawn Boskie, he gave up homers to the best of em'

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by jonpyardi on Sep 1, 2006 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also...
gave up Barry Bonds's 250th home run.  Not anything to write home about, exactly, but it was one of the milestones.

by Molechaser on Sep 1, 2006 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He gave up homers to all of them!
12th on all time list for single season HRs given;
40 in 189 1/3 innings pitched in '96
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boskie
was right handed iirc.  Or maybe he was lefthanded and just threw with his right hand.  Sure seemed that way.

by pageian on Sep 1, 2006 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no problem with the Kiddie Corps
Throwing the young ones out there has not proven to be a problem at all. Marshall, Hill, Marmol and Mateo have all proven the ability to pitch at the big league level. Are they polished? No. Are they all going to be studs? No. But it is a start. It would be ironic if these guys became the horses we expected Prior and Wood to be.
Ask Don Young what he thinks of Ron Santo.

by Ross on Sep 1, 2006 10:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The only....
problem I see with the young pitchers is that I do not see any of them being better than a end of the rotation starter.  Hendry will need to get a solid #2 if this team is going to move up.
he hath no fury like a cubs fan scorned

by timeforachange on Sep 1, 2006 10:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you mean next year...
or at the pinnacles of their careers? Because I'm pretty sure that Marmol, Guzman, and Hill all have ace stuff, and Marshall projects as middle of the rotation pitcher.

Not saying its going to happen; just that its possible.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will say....
100% for next year and most likely for their careers.

To me, the wild card is Hill.  

he hath no fury like a cubs fan scorned

by timeforachange on Sep 1, 2006 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see
I'll agree with you on Guzman. His injury problems have a good chance of perpetually dogging his career. Hill might be very good, however, and Marmol really does have pretty filthy stuff. Whether he ever finds good control does seem unlikely in this organization though, sadly.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True...
which is why I will be very upset if Tony Armas Jr, Ted Lilly, Jeff Suppan, Jason Marquis or Adam Eaton wind up on the CUBS....Rich Hill and Sean Marshall are just as servicable options and may prove to be better with experience.
Holla at cha boy, CubFaninCA....Freddie "Boom Boom" Bynum!!!

by TheBeerBaron on Sep 1, 2006 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point...
you have to figure that those two have a pretty good  chance to be more than just serviceable. Lets hope that Larry Rothschild doesn't hurt their further development (especially the younger Marshall)

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I pray that he won't have the chance to
hopefully every member of the coaching staff will be replaced for 2007.
Holla at cha boy, CubFaninCA....Freddie "Boom Boom" Bynum!!!

by TheBeerBaron on Sep 1, 2006 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol
Just like left hand hitters used to do with the "Big Unit".  Since we can't call Hill the "Big Unit" how about we start calling him the "Big Tool"?  Eh, that probably would have worked better a couple months ago.

by pageian on Sep 1, 2006 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

big tool
That could go to his head...he might think you're talking about something else

by cubfan1023 on Sep 1, 2006 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since being re-called...
...these are Rich Hill's numbers:

3-2, 4.03 ERA
7 G, 6 GS
38 IP, 33 H, 17 ER, 7 HR, 14 BB, 29 K, 1.24 WHIP

Hill's biggest improvements seems to be in his walk totals.  His BB/9 right since being recalled is 3.32/9.  Without looking up the stats, I would guess that those numbers would be the best on the team outside of Maddux (who's gone) and Howry.

Hill seems to still be giving up too many HRs, though.  1.65 HR/9 is probably too much.  His re-call rate still pencils out to 35-38 HRs over 200  IPs.  If Hill can keep throwing strikes and do a little better keeping in the ball in the yard, we might really have something.

Here's to hoping,

by Romero on Sep 1, 2006 12:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep
Given his age and experience I don't think we have to worry about sophmore slumps or huge learning curves.  I think his problems were mostly mental and if he's overcome that he could be a good middle of the rotation guy from here on out.  His talent would suggest potential 1-2 starter material but I don't want to get too high on him until we see if this is the real Hill or not.

by pageian on Sep 1, 2006 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's having a fantastic august too, btw
3-2 with a 3.38 ERA, .216 opponents BA, 11 BB's in 34.2 innings, 28 k's
Holla at cha boy, CubFaninCA....Freddie "Boom Boom" Bynum!!!

by TheBeerBaron on Sep 1, 2006 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, it's now September ... but
Here's to hoping he has a great outing and that it is strengthened by solid (is stellar asking too much?) defense plays!

Go Cubbie Blue!

"The good news is, the Cubs have reached rock bottom. The bad news is, they've started to dig." Bob V., May 2006, WGN Baseball Blog ...

by Littlerock Rynofan on Sep 1, 2006 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we cant hit Duke
good luck with Lowry.  LOL  I think its safe to count on good ol' number 80 tonight.  Go get 'em boys only 20 more after that!

by Santos Sorrow on Sep 1, 2006 12:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um
The Cubs beat Duke on August 5th, scoring five runs off of him in six innings.  That may have been the first time they've ever beaten him, but it's not like they've never done it.

by gauchodirk on Sep 1, 2006 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With your constant negativity...
It's pretty hard to tell the difference.

by gauchodirk on Sep 1, 2006 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's reporting the news...
and there's seeming to delight in this team losing. I can't take pleasure in them losing, even if that might be for the greater good in the future. If that is our philosophical difference, then so be it.

by gauchodirk on Sep 1, 2006 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it
won't help but

GO CUBS!!!!!!

And Murton better be in the lineup today too!

Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lineup
Pierre
Theriot
Ramirez
Lee
Barrett
Jones
Murton
Cedeno
Hill

Other than Murton batting behind Jones vs a LHP, not bad, Dusty.

by VS on Sep 1, 2006 12:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice
Good to see Theriot rewarded after Wednesday. I guess Dusty couldn't just ignore five hits.

by gauchodirk on Sep 1, 2006 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same here......
good call.

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Sep 1, 2006 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now THAT's a lineup card!!
Holla at cha boy, CubFaninCA....Freddie "Boom Boom" Bynum!!!

by TheBeerBaron on Sep 1, 2006 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And other than Cedeno...
But I guess somebody has to play shortstop.

Probably the best lineup card I've seen in awhile.

by theprognosticator on Sep 1, 2006 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why the f is cedeno starting.
how many chances does this guy get!
Forget Zito, Soriano, Schmidt, Matsuzaka & Lee. Its Eaton, Kennedy, Wood, Pierre and a backup RH OF instead.

by CubFaninCA on Sep 1, 2006 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are the other choices at this point?
If theriot plays shortstop that means Bynum will play second. Neither option is good.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reply

how many chances does this guy get!

Neifi got 870 chances so...dunno.

by VS on Sep 1, 2006 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad to
see Matt and Ryan both in the lineup today.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened to Dusty??
What happened, because the person who put that lineup out there is not dusty!

by Chanman25 on Sep 1, 2006 1:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Theriot...
will ride the pine the next week for that good play.

by Chanman25 on Sep 1, 2006 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just like in Major League...
when the owner is trying to come up with ideas to make the team be worse, and Donovan, the GM, suggests a series of fines for good play.

by gauchodirk on Sep 1, 2006 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There goes Theriot...
being a terrible player once again.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Glad to see
Soto brought up. Hope he gets a chance to play.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd like
to see Pie get some playing time with the big boys.  Anyone know if that will happen?

by NO100 on Sep 1, 2006 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D Lee how we missed ye
President of the Dusty/Hendry Bashers Club aka Cub Fans for a Better Future

by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 1:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there goes
Matt clogging up the bases.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Murton
How do you expect to get more playing time if you keep clogging the bases?

by VS on Sep 1, 2006 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cedeno
gets an RBI? Is there a full moon?
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by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cedeno
actually got a hit?

by Chanman25 on Sep 1, 2006 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It almost makes sense
To bat Murton after Jones.  Given that Cedeno is batting behind Murton, it's pretty obvious that Murton won't get much to hit.  However, he's a patient enough hitter to take a walk, unlike Jones, who's more likely to get himself out.  So on the off chance that Ronny actually gets a hit, there may be someone on base (and as I type this, I see Ronny actually did get a hit.  Will wonders never cease?)

So it almost makes sense.  

"When things are at their blackest, I say to myself, 'Cheer up, things could be worse.' And sure enough, they get worse." - Robert Asprin

by Jesse Guam on Sep 1, 2006 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jacques Jones just keeps producing!
Forget Zito, Soriano, Schmidt, Matsuzaka & Lee. Its Eaton, Kennedy, Wood, Pierre and a backup RH OF instead.

by CubFaninCA on Sep 1, 2006 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rich
Rich, Rich, you don't walk the pitcher.
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by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

RYAN!!
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

woohoo!!
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Terry-O's! They are doubly delicious!
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 2:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Amazing how well the team can play...
...when it fields its best possible team.

by theprognosticator on Sep 1, 2006 2:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and when the other team...
...is playing a day game after a night game in another city (plus the giants must be the oldest team in history).
I wrote the longest post and best post I ever have. And it just dissapeared, I am so dissapointed right now. Sorry.

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Sep 1, 2006 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bleh bleh bleh...
try as you may Jim, you can't ruin this good day.

(unless they blow it late)

by theprognosticator on Sep 1, 2006 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on Rich
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

my first post from work....ever
this is only the 2nd time I've ever had a job w/ the internet and I'm now posting from work for the first time.

this game is looking really awesome! DLee and Theriot looking good!

yes, the giants had a day game after night, but fielding a sensible lineup of good players IS going to play a big factor.

that being said, my coworker who I'm sort of replacing is at the game right now....sigh.

by jag alskar bjornungarna on Sep 1, 2006 2:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

don't get caught
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see Ronny can find a pop-up.
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Baby steps
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by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JACQUE JOOOOOOOOOOOONES
WHOOOO
Forget Zito, Soriano, Schmidt, Matsuzaka & Lee. Its Eaton, Kennedy, Wood, Pierre and a backup RH OF instead.

by CubFaninCA on Sep 1, 2006 2:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MATT!!!!!
WOOHOO!!!!!!
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Murton for certain!
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by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ORANGE GUY!
Shame on all of us for giving up on him in June.

by theprognosticator on Sep 1, 2006 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

leave me
out of "us". I never gave up on him.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can us and not be talking about you...
Not everything is about you by the way...

Typical female...

:)

by theprognosticator on Sep 1, 2006 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmph!!! :)
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gave up on him
in May.  

by NO100 on Sep 1, 2006 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about MATT?!
I really am liking what I'm seeing with Murton. With a bit of time who knows what caliber of player he may become.
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully
a great one.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose
Dusty will be in his right mind tomorrow and Matt will be back on the bench.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Theriot
you can't keep a talent like Boom Boom off of the field for too long you know.
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by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murton
I remember when Hendry made the trade for Nomar.  A die hard Red Sox friend of mine was absolutely livid that the Sox included Murton in the trade.

With a new manager, we'll see what kind of player Murton really is.

by Kornchex on Sep 1, 2006 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murton, Jones & Pierre have combined
for 34 homers now.  Above my expectations.
Forget Zito, Soriano, Schmidt, Matsuzaka & Lee. Its Eaton, Kennedy, Wood, Pierre and a backup RH OF instead.

by CubFaninCA on Sep 1, 2006 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good jpb Rich
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*job*
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TheRiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to buy a Pallet of Terry-O's
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Riot!!!!
Whats gotten into this guy?  

by flyball on Sep 1, 2006 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If
Matt and Ryan aren't in the lineup tomorrow someone should hit Dusty in the knees with a bat.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree
But not just tomorrow.  They need to be out there for the rest of the season.

by Kornchex on Sep 1, 2006 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whould you like the Nancy Kerrigan Special?
I've also got a two for one deal going this month...
While supplies last, in participating locations. Not valid in Rhode Island.
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor,
oft maligned Rhode Island.  
It's cool we like the same junk and stuff- Phillip J. Fry

by smwojoz on Sep 1, 2006 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terry-Os
Part of a balanced breakfast

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

my favorite
are the Terry-O's with red Murts.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice
They're magically delicious.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, yummy
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They helped me lower my cholesterol!
Not to mention my blood-pressure!
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine
the improvement in both if Dusty isn't here next year.
President of the Dusty/Hendry Bashers Club aka Cub Fans for a Better Future

by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't excite me
like this. My heart can't take it.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill...
Looks good...a few more of these and he's about booked himself into the 07 rotation.
Extreme hopes are born from extreme misery. -Bertrand Russell

by thekansasian on Sep 1, 2006 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.
He's shown considerable improvement. If he can continue this, he definitely deserves an 07 spot.  

by thing85 on Sep 1, 2006 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They know
it's my birthday today so they are winning for me. ;)
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They lost on my birthday...
But Happy B-Day nonetheless! So, what, 28 this year?
Extreme hopes are born from extreme misery. -Bertrand Russell

by thekansasian on Sep 1, 2006 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks
and 28 is close enough. ;)
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see them do some winning....
on my birthday (its in late October)

Happy birthday, Sue

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks
maybe next year they will be playing on your birthday.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday Sue
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by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope they win on ALL of our birthdays!!
It would be some season!!!
Holla at cha boy, CubFaninCA....Freddie "Boom Boom" Bynum!!!

by TheBeerBaron on Sep 1, 2006 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They annually take the day off for mine!
(Feb.)
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They annually take the day off...
for mine too. They just don't have to.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 Ks
to 1 walk. Is Rich really a Cubs' pitcher?
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by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you
see the big sigh of relief Rich had when he walked off the mound?
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope
following it with Gameday at work. Shhh don't tell anyone.
President of the Dusty/Hendry Bashers Club aka Cub Fans for a Better Future

by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your secret
is safe with me.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're Lucky
 I can't make personal calls from work. You would be in sooo much trouble...
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill batting for himself...
Looks like he'll get at least one more inning. At 91 pitches, he might be able to get that elusive complete game if he can be efficient in the 8th and 9th. Great game for him so far.

by mportsch on Sep 1, 2006 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Will this...
be the Cubs first complete game this year?
They played hard. They did their best. Move on. Their whole life isn't out in that field. It's their job. It's not an obsession.

by Jeff Pico on Sep 1, 2006 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have
no doubt that Dusty will pull him in the 9th with 2 outs

by flyball on Sep 1, 2006 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atta boy, Ryan.
Grounding out on the first pitch... THAT'S what Dusty likes to see... good old fashion aggression.

by mportsch on Sep 1, 2006 3:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill, Murton & Theriot for the HOF.
Forget Zito, Soriano, Schmidt, Matsuzaka & Lee. Its Eaton, Kennedy, Wood, Pierre and a backup RH OF instead.

by CubFaninCA on Sep 1, 2006 3:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What do you all think...
should he finish the game? I say let him, since he hasn't thrown many high pressure pitches, and it would really be sad if we never get a CG.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like it isn't going to happen
Dusty only stretches out his pitchers when no one wants him to

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he
feels he can make it they should let him but it sounds like Erye is warming up.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

theriot
is centuries better than cedeno he should get consideration for the a spot on the 07 roster

by tbizzle83 on Sep 1, 2006 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cedeno hit well his first 200 ab's
Theriot has about 70 now....  

Lets not get carried away.. Hee Sop Choi looked good at times too.

Forget Zito, Soriano, Schmidt, Matsuzaka & Lee. Its Eaton, Kennedy, Wood, Pierre and a backup RH OF instead.

by CubFaninCA on Sep 1, 2006 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hee sop who?
theriot brings excitement i think. he seems like one of those scrappy guys that teams hate to face(kind of like eckstien). it more than his ab's i like

by tbizzle83 on Sep 1, 2006 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but the difference is...
Theriot has taken walks and has been successful stealing bases so far. Even when Cedeno was decent through his first 150 ABs or so, both his OBP and stolen base percentage were horrible (and remain so)

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree
theriot for 07 im starting the campaign lol

by tbizzle83 on Sep 1, 2006 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really want to see him as the starter...
if we can help it, but he is definitely a quality infield sub.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

would u rather
him or ronny start?

by tbizzle83 on Sep 1, 2006 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the answer to that is obvious...
but Theriot really isn't a starter on any very good team. He is, however, a very quality and valuable infield sub. Cedeno, on the other hand, isn't a major leaguer.

Who knows, maybe Theriot will pull a Freddy Sanchez, and become an unexpectedly talented major leaguer (Sanchez did have a career .318 minor league average though). If he does turn out well, I'm all for him starting. It doesn't really seem too likely though.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hope so
 i sure like him better then cedeno. he is more in attack mode then ronny and thats what the cubs need. more players in attack mode instead of on autopilot and waiting for thigns to happen

by tbizzle83 on Sep 1, 2006 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a big fan of any player...
that plays with that much energy. He's the type of guy that can put a charge in an entire offense--sort of the Ryan Freel/David Eckstein type.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could...
... definitely see Theriot turning into Eckstein. That'd be terrific.

by Al on Sep 1, 2006 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the first ever time here
let me say, I told everyone so. Wow, that felt good but obnoxious.
Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on Sep 1, 2006 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ive always
liked theriot and murton. also

by tbizzle83 on Sep 1, 2006 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Dempster?
He couldn't blow a 5 run lead, could he?
President of the Dusty/Hendry Bashers Club aka Cub Fans for a Better Future

by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 3:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Give the guy
credit he's blown saves against much better teams than the Pirates.
President of the Dusty/Hendry Bashers Club aka Cub Fans for a Better Future

by kessinger on Sep 1, 2006 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True
He's an equal opportunity save blower.

by Thelonious on Sep 1, 2006 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this the fastest non-Maddux game...
....of the year? Great job from Rich Hill!!!
I wrote the longest post and best post I ever have. And it just dissapeared, I am so dissapointed right now. Sorry.

by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Sep 1, 2006 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice effort by Cedeno..
...but this play seemed way too risky. If he makes the play, he's a hero, but that's a good way to risk having the runner get to 2nd base.

by thing85 on Sep 1, 2006 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on
Scott. Get this over with.
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs Win!!!!!!!
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday Sue!
This win is something that all of us here at BCB chipped in to get you. Hope you like it.
Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

by BlueW on Sep 1, 2006 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

happy birthday
hope you liked it, I had to give up my first born for it.
"I respect the mind's power over the body, it's why I do what I do" - Dr. Jonathan Crane

by Faith plus 1 on Sep 1, 2006 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks you guys!!
It was a great gift.

Aw Faith your first born? Now I really appreciate the win. ;)

Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 1, 2006 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh crap
No, no no Sue, I was being sarcastic...oh lord I'm sorry.
"I respect the mind's power over the body, it's why I do what I do" - Dr. Jonathan Crane

by Faith plus 1 on Sep 2, 2006 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got that
Football season is here. GO HAWKEYES!!!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 2, 2006 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hill
should have finished the game.

by tbizzle83 on Sep 1, 2006 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What is Hill's ERA down to??
Is he in the 4's yet??? I know he was in the mid 5's before the game......but he doesn't have all that many innings pitch....an outing like this will really bring down his ERA
Holla at cha boy, CubFaninCA....Freddie "Boom Boom" Bynum!!!

by TheBeerBaron on Sep 1, 2006 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's at
5.43
according to Gameday.  Don't know if that's been updated or not

by secdelahc on Sep 1, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're absolutely right
I hit the wrong key.  Darn this multi-tasking at work stuff!

by secdelahc on Sep 1, 2006 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill, Eyre, Howry
I was really hoping Hill would get to pitch the ninth. When he got lifted for Eyre, I was perturbed, but I could understand---he was over a hundred pitches, fine.

Eyre comes in, no big deal. But when he struggled, why do you get Howry going? If you assume Hill's taken out so as not to overwork him, why would you get Howry up? He's overworked, and yeah, there was an off day yesterday, but geez.

If it becomes a 2-run or 1-run game, I can understand, but that was overkill.

So much for the law of averages.

by JDay on Sep 1, 2006 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fine Day at the Ballpark
I was pleased to see my favorite rookie pitcher hit the mark again.  The best however was getting lucky enough to see Ryan Theriot hit his first homerun while on a scorching streak...when cajun eyes are smiling.....

by Cajuncub on Sep 1, 2006 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ryan THE RIOT is already my fav. CUB
Holla at cha boy, CubFaninCA....Freddie "Boom Boom" Bynum!!!

by TheBeerBaron on Sep 1, 2006 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BB...
...he should be. He's quickly becoming my personal favorite. This kid has the tools to be next years leadoff man so hopefully Hendry will consider it and forget about offering Pierre a long term contract.
cubsfan4life

by cubfan4life on Sep 1, 2006 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I'm jealous
of everyone who got to go to the game. I've really been wanting to see Hill pitch. I'm really starting to like him a lot. I hope he keeps turning out games like this and we can see him win 15+ games in the rotation next year!

and way to go for the riot and his 1st career HR. congrats Ryan!

by jag alskar bjornungarna on Sep 1, 2006 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great game
as far as I can tell by looking at the boxscore.  Did not get to see it.  

Rich Hill is looking more and more like a quality starter, not just back of the rotation filler.  Wonderful!!!!  I couldn't be happier for him or us, let's just hope he can keep it up.

I'm impressed with Theriot but I'm not so sure that what we're seeing now is the real thing.  Let's not make a decsions on him till we see him some more.  That said he should be the starting second baseman from here on out.  When Izturis comes off the DL Ronnie needs to hit the bench permanently.

I can't fault Dusty for taking Hill out of the game or getting Eyre some work, but seems to me that when we have a 5-run lead that would be a good opportunity to get Donuts or Novoa some work.  This is why everyone says our bullpen is overworked, burning good pitchers in games unnecessarily.  5 runs isn't a lot but if Roberto or Glendon can't be trusted to get through one inning without blowing that kind of lead why the heck are they on the team?  What if the game is close tomorrow, is Eyre going to be available?  Or will Dusty go to Rusch if he needs a lefthander?  Sorry, just nitpicking on my favorite target.  He screws up even when we win. ;)

by pageian on Sep 1, 2006 5:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sullivans Fantasy
A better plan for Tribune Conpany and their stockholders would be to trade every single player with a salary above the minimum for minor leaguers. This way the Cubs could lower ticket prices to about $10.00 a seat and generate $30,000,000 in revenue against a team salary of $7,500,000. Wrigley Field fans have consistently proven that a winning team is not a necessity for a trip to the Great Beer Garden on Addison. In fact, there is no reason to close the park while the team is on the road. Set up a bandstand in each corner of the concourses and and provide live local music. Beer sales would surely cover all expenses and admission could be reduced on these days to $5.00. With a little ingenuity the Tribune marketing wonks could establish cell phone sales outlets behind each dugout and create even more revenue. Use your imagination guys, the possibilities are endless.

by jackstraw on Sep 2, 2006 9:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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