Is this a trend?

by Scott G F on Sep 15, 2006 7:39 AM CDT

I was hit with a thought on what appears to be a tread in baseball. It seems to me that since steroids have come to the forefront of baseball thoughts. The players seem to be working out in the gym more, building strength, instead of on the field trying to build there skill sets such as defense, running, hitting the cutoff man etc. When it was reported that the Cubs don't practice before games I was shocked and disappointed. Looking back for an example, Ryne Sandberg took a ton of infield defensive practice and he wasn't a big guy. He was slight when compared to major leaguers of his time. Note HOF is next to his name.

Am I the only one that seem to identify this tread or am I mentioning the bloody obvious? If it's that obvious then why don't teams make the adjustment in their coaching?

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Oblique

It has been said that this the reason why the Oblique strain is the injury of the year. When you're on steroids, all of your muscles benefit from working out. Now, however non-core muscles are weaker and when you only workout your arms, legs and chest, peripheral muscles such as the oblique are going to strain easily.

by BadGuy on Sep 15, 2006 9:51 AM CDT reply actions

Interesting...

... clearly this is a comment about Albert Pujols, who had an oblique strain.

Are you suggesting Sean Marshall was on steroids too?

by Al Yellon on Sep 15, 2006 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Marshall is HUGE

he's definately on 'roids.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 15, 2006 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions

No but

Albert Pujols is a big cat. Different steroid do different things. Not saying either did anything, but pitchers need to recover quickly and there are steriods that make that happen faster. Not all steroids go for bulk.

You're never a loser untill you quit trying - FortuneCookie

by Scott G F on Sep 15, 2006 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes I know

i've said all along, and i'll continue to say it - WHO CARES? i don't give a rat's ass if derrek lee drinks rocket fuel to hit home runs. i dont look to baseball for moral guidance, i look to it for entertainment. let 'em juice if they want. if they choose to risk long-term health issues, for "possible" short-term gains - let them!! it's a futile witch hunt anyway, why are we wasting our time on an issue that the MARKET PLACE makes an impossible eventuallity.

To clarify - the market place guarantees this issue will NEVER go away because the incremental gain a AAA player gets for finding a chemical alternative is ENORMOUS. If he gets caught, he loses 50 games or maybe gets released from his AAA (60 K-ish) contract. If he beats the system, which isn't hard AT ALL, he potentially makes the Majors and makes a MINIMUM of 330 K. Risk:Reward GUARANTEES this issue, if it really is one, will NEVER GO AWAY.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 15, 2006 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions

Santos Sorrow

SO your theory is to do nothing about it?

Maybe YOU don't look to Major League baseball players for moral guidance, but how about, I don't know say kids, high school, college, minor league athletes?? To say "let them" do it is just turning your back on them cheating, which in my eyes is simply ignorant. It "will NEVER GO AWAY" if we choose to ignore it.

"Booze, broads, and bullshit. If you got all that, what else do you need?" - Harry Caray

by 10 14 23 26 on Sep 15, 2006 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions

They HAVE to do something about

it Congress would get involved if they didn't, what I was saying is regardless of what measures (and expense) they take, it's not going to make the slightest bit of difference. Prohibition, in any form, simply does not work. You might as well try herding cats.

by Santos Sorrow @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 15, 2006 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions

hmmm

You might as well try herding cats.

I'll fights you for em'!!

"I respect the mind's power over the body, it's why I do what I do" - Dr. Jonathan Crane

by Faith plus 1 on Sep 15, 2006 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions

It seems that

The oblique strain is the popular ailment of the moment. I guess the question is correlation or coincidence with the steriod situation?

The threads purpose was to discuss the general players need to weight lift and not to work on honing their baseball skills. It seems the focus is right now is more on weight lifting and in doing so teams are overvauling glove men like Niefi Perez for example.

You're never a loser untill you quit trying - FortuneCookie

by Scott G F on Sep 15, 2006 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions

I think

our memories are bad when it comes to how well the players of our youth mastered the "fundamentals" and about how few mental and physical errors they made.

Read "Ball Four" if you want to know how seriously players in the "pre-steroid era" took training drills.

by Josh Timmers on Sep 15, 2006 12:26 PM CDT reply actions

I thought

The previous generation of baseball players was good and pure, took the game seriously, always played the "right way" and was nearly perfect in every way.

Oh wait, they were just as human as the rest current crop of players. Oh well.

"When things are at their blackest, I say to myself, 'Cheer up, things could be worse.' And sure enough, they get worse." - Robert Asprin

by Jesse Guam on Sep 15, 2006 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions