BAs top 10 Cubs prospects
Just got my copy of the prospect handbook from Baseball America in the mail. Since no one else has posted anything on this I figured I would list the top 10 plus a few other nuggets I thought were intersting from it. Here goes...
#1 Felix Pie. Big surprise here- NOT! See the other ten thousand posts about CF if you want to know more about him.
#2 D Veal. States he is a possible #2 but amazingly they don't seem 100% convinced despite the fantastic stats he put up last year- which BTW were even better after he moved up a level at midseason.
#3 T Colvin. Says he has a nice all around game with room to grow since he was "young" for being a college draftee. Compares to Steve Finley and Shawn Green- would be nice if could reach that level!!!
#4 J Samardzija. Amazingly BA went out on a limb on this one and they look really smart now considering the news that he will play baseball full time (announced just yesterday). They say he may end up in the pen if his secondary pitches don't improve- this was more likely if he split his time between 2 sports. They think he could really shoot thru the system.
#5. S Gallagher. Say his fastball improved last year to 90-94 thus his ceiling went from a #4/5 to possible a #3. There biggest concern was after his AA promotion he overthrew and got away from what had made him so successful. His walk rate went up noticibly but he still managed to put up a sub 3 era. My personal opinion is they still seem to be selling him short. BA typically falls in love with players with "tools" and often overlooks the results the players actually obtain.
#6. E Patterson. See all the other posts about 2nd base for more on EP. Basically they say he is still the 2nd basemen of the future for the cubs but is probably a half season or so away. Did mention they played him some in instructional league in CF- wow that would be weird if he made it to the Cubs as a CF!
#7 S Moore. "ultimately will serve Chicago as a versatile reserve or as trade bait". Obviously Ramirez is the 3rd basemen for the Cubs so Moore will have to learn to play elsewhere or go somewhere else.
#8. R Harvey. Still undecided on if this guy is a bust or is just waiting to bust out. My guess is the former. He will be in AA this season and his sub 300 OBP will likely plummet even further IMHO.
#9. C Huseby. Perfect example of BA prefering tools as Huseby pitched only 17 innings in the rookie league with only mediocre results (5+ era, less than a K/IP, and only a 2 to 1 K:BB). Say he was throwing 90-95 mph just 15 months after TJ surgery. Should find out if he was worth all the money the cubs threw at him this season (1.3 million as an 11th rd pick- basically they bought him since he would have been an early rd pick prior to getting hurt and the cubs had no 2nd-4th pick). Thus, it was a gamble to replace the picks they lost.
#10. M Pawelek. BA really seems to have soured on this guys potential. Saying he now pitches at 88-92 (before it was 95) and thus has only a chance for 3 solid "average" pitches (therefore his ceiling isn't nearly as high). Somewhat surprising to me considering his stats are still quite good and supposedly he showed up last spring in really poor shape. Not surprisingly, his season numbers were unimpressive at the start but from the midpoint on he was consistently good to great (including a 7 IP playoff win). Supposedly he learned a lesson and this next season will give us a better feel for what his true ceiling is.
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I look forward to catching many of these guys
by stelmodad on Jan 21, 2007 7:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They greatly overrate Colvin, IMO
by VS on Jan 21, 2007 12:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would...
If he's still at that level after a full year in A ball (likely at Daytona), then yeah, maybe that's right.
Too early to tell, IMO.
by Al on Jan 21, 2007 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing I remember about Colvin...
Anyway, they like Colvin because he does many things very well, fielding, hitting, etc. although nothing great. They felt with his college development, they were getting a solid 3rd OF that would go along well with two better guys. Which, is a reach for the first round, but they felt he was the best sure thing (even if they felt it was sure to be average) they could get before the 5th round.
They then made up for it by taking a huge question mark, both in developed talent and dedication, when they got Samardzija.
They got a 2nd rounder (Shark) and a 3rd rounder (Colvin) in the 1st and 5th rounds. Not a bad average.
by tyger1147 on Jan 21, 2007 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does this make any sense?
by tyger1147 on Jan 21, 2007 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blast from the past
One star (Zambrano) one good major leaguer (Patterson), some roster fillers (Choi, Cruz,Hill). Is the current crop better?
by BillV on Jan 21, 2007 8:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what you'd find...
Would you get much better than that?
by Al on Jan 21, 2007 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Something to keep in mind...
The farm system is just as important for that purpose.
by gravedigger on Jan 21, 2007 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say that is nice, but not as important
by Thelonious on Jan 21, 2007 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How can something...
by gravedigger on Jan 21, 2007 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
way to expose the fact that I never learned math
by Thelonious on Jan 22, 2007 1:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whens the book going to hit bookstores?
by mikew on Jan 21, 2007 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My thing with Baseball America is that..
I'd rather hear about how a guy was progressing well than this guy has a high ceiling.
That being said Tyler Colvin has made strides in his game, at best he's Steve Finley, the Cubs went very safe with him in the first round. There were much better players in that round.. Hank Conger was taken after him... I would much rather have Conger. Daniel Bard another college pitcher was taken after him.. I'm not 100% sure but I believe that a talented RHP from the Marlins.. was taken after him as well the name escapes me in the moment.
by cubsfan2883 on Jan 21, 2007 11:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The guy...
Snider hit .325/.412/.567 in 194 AB in the Appalachian League after signing.
by Al on Jan 22, 2007 4:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad that for once they didn't take...
by tyger1147 on Jan 22, 2007 7:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing...
It appears they're not going to do this with Colvin and Samardzija, as long as they can handle the next level, it seems they'll get their shot. This is a good thing.
by Al on Jan 22, 2007 8:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Down on the Farm" seminar
Both Donald Veal and Eric Patterson seemed like personable guys who genuinely want to win, Eric cracked a few jokes and was asked a few times about his brother, someone actually called him Corey.
Other than that it was mostly stock answers, although the impression I got from Oneri Fleita and Tim Wilken was that Felix Pie isn't ready yet. There was some talk of the "Moneyball" philosophies, the positives and the negatives.
Mostly it was just a throwing around of names throughout the minor league system.
Jessica, it was nice to meet you after the seminar.
by Imtrejo on Jan 22, 2007 12:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My question for Mr. Fleita/Wilken
by cubsfan2883 on Jan 22, 2007 1:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to meet you too
It came up in SEVERAL sessions that Pie is NOT ready so he
is NOT a CF option this year.
by jessica on Jan 22, 2007 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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