Tuesday Morning Miscellaneous
Yawn.
No baseball again today. If MLB wanted to concoct a scheme to destroy interest in the postseason, they couldn't have done better than the 2007 schedule, with all its off days.
Phil Rogers is bored too -- says the World Series will be "a letdown". His theory is that since the last four Series have been dull, that the 2007 version will be, as well. Not sure I follow this tortured logic.
Meanwhile, the Cubs' resodding project, near approval, may be finished as early as December. And Paul Sullivan further writes that whoever buys the Cubs and Wrigley Field should take some lessons from what the Red Sox have done with Fenway Park.
Blogger "Richie Rich" at Home Run Derby makes a persuasive case for the Reds possibly signing Barry Bonds, now that his old enabler Dusty Baker is managing there. Plausible, especially if the few AL teams where he'd fit (Seattle, Oakland, maybe Detroit) all pass. It's further corroborated by this Sabernomics blog post suggesting that the primary reason the Reds paid Baker $3.5 million per year was to send the "message" that they are serious about contending, and might want to make a splash in the free agent market.
And at long last, to no one's real surprise after the death of Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz, Bill's son Rocky, now in charge, is already negotiating to put some home games on TV. Here's the official in-house memo sent to team employees from "W. Rockwell Wirtz" (his full name, and isn't "Rocky" better?) -- note: link opens .pdf file.
And, the Colorado Rockies are going to try again after yesterday's fiasco: Rox World Series tickets go on sale today at 1 pm CDT. Good luck to their computer servers!
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Much as it pains me...
by Damen Jackson on Oct 23, 2007 9:31 AM CDT 0 recs
I meant Sullivan...
by Damen Jackson on
Oct 23, 2007 9:32 AM CDT
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First!
Which makes total sense to any of us who live here in the city!
by JB 23 on Oct 23, 2007 9:32 AM CDT 0 recs
I'll be at Fenway in April
by mike on Oct 23, 2007 9:40 AM CDT 0 recs
Why Are Fewer Kids Interested In Baseball?
Oh, I feel as though they have really gone the whole nine yards - games on until past one a.m. Eastern, tons of commercials which drag games out forever, horrific, over-the-top, "Access Hollywood"-esque announcers...
Hell, I started rooting for the BoSox strictly based on the backlash to Manny Ramirez' completely sane remarks - "If we don't win, who cares? There is always next year."
It is a children's game played by grown men, fer Cripes' sakes! They throw the ball and catch the ball and hit the ball and run...The off-field drama (trumped up by the media) dilutes and tarnishes the actual drama and beauty of the game being played between the lines.
by DonGerard on Oct 23, 2007 10:47 AM CDT 0 recs
It's a different time today
IMO, this is one of the reasons you have more latin players in the game today. They have fewer options than American boys and they spend time playing ball. This helps them to develop the skills and the instincts needed to play baseball at a high level and the American kids just aren't dedicating the time to it.
by MPH73 on
Oct 23, 2007 11:26 AM CDT
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I agree with a lot of what you said
http://www.variety.com/VR1117974482.html
I have posted a few times here lambasting FOX and the way they do their games. I still contend that the dumbed down approach to broadcasting is not good for the sport, even though this may be contrary to that. It may not. One thing the article alludes to is that this success is driven not by the broadcast but by the teams involved. Call me crazy, but I think that Scooter, robots, and silly sound effects don't add much to the dialogue.
On another somewhat related topic, I'm at least as interested in the topic of why baseball is losing popularity in the African American community as much as kids in general.
by NO100 on
Oct 23, 2007 11:34 AM CDT
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Kids tend to follow their heroes
Because of Tiger Woods, I think you will see an influx of African American golfers on the PGA tour, because they started the sport young and dedicated time to it.
Scouting systems of all professional sports will eventually find the talent. It may take them time to adjust, but they usually end up finding where the players are with the best talent. Hockey eventually found the talent in Europe, baseball found it in the latin countries and basketball has also found talent outside of the US.
by MPH73 on
Oct 23, 2007 11:45 AM CDT
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I don't think you'll see a...
Tiger Woods is a phenominal athlete. But he doesn't solve a lot of the class issues associated with golf -- even if you don't consider outright discrimination, golf is expensive. More importantly, golf requires a lot of open space to learn, which isn't an option for a lot of kids in America, which is why participation in sports like basketball (which was designed for a low-space, indoors urban environement) is going to be higher for a long time.
by cwyers on
Oct 23, 2007 12:28 PM CDT
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I didn't say massive influx
by MPH73 on
Oct 23, 2007 12:30 PM CDT
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Well
African Americans kids are not going to take up golf in huge numbers just because of Tiger Woods. The barriers to beginning golf (cost of equipment, cost of green, accessibility of greens, cost of instruction) are just too great for someone who doesn't already have access and an interest through a parent, relative or someone like that.
Sure, you might get two African Americans in the next decade on the tour, and that would, in fact, be an increase. But I doubt there will be many more than that.
by Josh77 on
Oct 23, 2007 2:48 PM CDT
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I would disagree
This past summer, I went to watch the US Public Links championships at Cantigny in Wheaton. I saw several African American players who were from college teams across the country. 10 years ago, this would not have been the case.
I would not be surprised to see 5-7 African American golfers on the tour in the next 5 years, and that would be a huge change from years past.
by MPH73 on
Oct 23, 2007 3:38 PM CDT
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Hold On
But that doesn't go to expalin baseball where the financial barrier is low and the older generation is interested in it.
by NO100 on
Oct 23, 2007 3:41 PM CDT
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it's much easier
by mike on
Oct 23, 2007 3:47 PM CDT
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Where did I ever say
Please do not put racist words in my mouth because I didn't say them.
by Josh77 on
Oct 23, 2007 3:51 PM CDT
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The first thing you need
by MPH73 on
Oct 23, 2007 4:11 PM CDT
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I didn't imply racism in your words
But that doesn't go to expalin why baseball, which has a low financial barrier to entry and an older generation that is interested, is losing interest in the African American community.
by NO100 on
Oct 23, 2007 4:52 PM CDT
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The simple answer here...
by cwyers on
Oct 23, 2007 5:39 PM CDT
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That article
For all our bitching about what Fox is doing for baseball, we should acknowledge that the TV networks know more about the TV business than we do. The Rockies/Diamondback ratings were terrible, but that was the Rockies and Diamondbacks, and it was a sweep. Give the public a seven game series between Boston and Cleveland, two teams that are more than fifteen years old, and the public will come out.
Are they maximizing short term ratings and profits over the long-term growth of the sport? Of course they are. That's what TV does. Nobody in the industry cares what happens in ten years because they won't have a job by then if they do.
by Josh77 on
Oct 23, 2007 2:56 PM CDT
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Yes
The music industry, simply put, is not developing acts that hold talent and market themselves simply by releasing a new CD.
To get this back to baseball, what happens when the people who tuned in to hear Scooter tell them what a fastball is get bored and tune out?
by NO100 on
Oct 23, 2007 3:49 PM CDT
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Frisco Dusty or Chicago Dusty?
- A good handler of people, including those with, er, "difficult personalities."
- A man so popular with major league players that superstars would flock to the north side of Chicago and give the Cubs a discount just so they could play for Dusty Baker.
It seems there was some reason for Cub fans to believe the hype. In my opinion, however, evidence from Baker's stint in Chicago suggests that he was a terrible handler of people. Furthermore, the hordes of superstar free agents never materialized. Jim Thome was the only superstar free agent clamoring to play on the north side but I got the sense he would have offered a home town discount whether Baker was managing or not. And for the purposes of this post, it is irrelevant that he ended up playing for the White Sox. The team seemed to attract somewhat better players under Baker than it had under Don "Every Situation Calls for a Bunt" Baylor but overall I think Dusty Baker the Free Agent Magnet performed substantially below the level fans were led to expect.
So which Dusty Baker will we see in Cincinnati? It's impossible to say with certainty, of course, but I'll make a guess. The Chicago Dusty Baker is a more recent vintage than the San Francisco Dusty Baker so it's reasonable to expect a performance similar to the Chicago version. On the other hand, different conditions might not give Baker the opportunity to repeat his Chicago performance. Cincy is hardly awash in revenue so I would not expect the club to be particularly competitive in signing the top free agents. I can't imagine why any established pitcher would choose to ply his trade in that ballpark so the club will probably have to rely on farm products and well crafted trades but that sort of transaction says nothing about which Dusty Baker we'll see in Cincinnati. Will Baker be the deciding factor in a big free agent's decision to choose Cincinnati's offer over a better offer from another club? Forgive me if I'm skeptical. Regarding Dusty the Free Agent Magnet I think Reds fans should expect the deep dish Chicago style Dusty.
And will Dusty Baker be the guy who helped drive Steve Stone from the broadcast booth or will he be the guy who miraculously kept some semblance of peace between Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent? Well, I think the Reds team Baker inherits probably has less clubhouse strife (if such a thing can be measured**) than his Giants teams and his Cubs teams. Even so, every season sees new additions to every major league roster so I suppose it's remotely possible the 2008 Reds will be more contentious than the Athletics of the early 70s or the Bronx Zoo Yankees. Not likely, however. With easier personalities on the roster I suspect Baker will handle his new team without creating too many big incidents. It seems unlikely that he and, say, Eddie Guardado will drive Marty or Thom Brennaman out of town. It's difficult for me to envision the return of such a thin-skinned, passive-agressive Dusty.
Ultimately, I expect Baker to do very little in Cincy. He has a relatively subdued team to manage but they aren't especially good (well, the pitching anyway). It seems unlikely that Baker alone will draw big impact free agent pitchers to a hitters' park or a small market team that tends to perform poorly. Frankly, without some very talented rookies bubbling up through their farm system (and the rooks might not get playing time if Cincinnati gets the Chicago version of Dusty Baker) I have a hard time seeing the Reds doing much more than they did in 2007. I'm guessing that Dusty Baker's primary contribution to the Reds will be a slight increase in national media attention but not much more than that.
by Copter OBob on Oct 23, 2007 1:13 PM CDT 0 recs
Measuring Clubhouse Strife
by Copter OBob on
Oct 23, 2007 1:22 PM CDT
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Rocky Wirtz is a much better name.
by Cool Hand on Oct 23, 2007 3:08 PM CDT 0 recs
Go Hawks!
by cubby23 on
Oct 23, 2007 7:22 PM CDT
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Heavy equipment in right field
Just walked by Wrigley and took a look-see through the right field knothole. The inside gate is wide open and there is a big back-hoe on the outfield grass. Nothing has been dug up in the field yet, but the concrete concourse between the knothole gate and the inside gate has been completely jackhammered and removed. So there's a short dirt "driveway" there that I suspect will see a lot of traffic in and out over the next couple months.
I took some 'before' pictures the other day, and I'll try to keep taking them throughout the process, but I guess that depends on how accessible the knothole continues to be. I think Al said he'd try to get some shots from the Cubs Cam, assuming they don't get shut down.
by ballhawk on Oct 23, 2007 3:55 PM CDT 0 recs
Posting Pictures
Did you configure the blog to strip out 'img' HTML tags from messages?
by cubsnlinux on
Oct 23, 2007 4:25 PM CDT
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No, I didn't.
by Al on
Oct 23, 2007 5:49 PM CDT
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Here's what ballhawk was talking about
by Al on
Oct 23, 2007 5:52 PM CDT
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The ivy still looks pretty green
by JohnM on
Oct 24, 2007 8:19 AM CDT
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About half of it, actually.
by Al on
Oct 24, 2007 8:59 AM CDT
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On Bonds.....
by BeerCub on Oct 23, 2007 6:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Wow.
by cwyers on
Oct 23, 2007 6:11 PM CDT
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Hey, It's The Angels......
by BeerCub on
Oct 23, 2007 6:28 PM CDT
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I thought about the same thing
Prospects frequently flame out so occasionally using them to get proven players makes sense. Boston wouldn't be in the WS without the Ramirez/Sanchez for Beckett/Lowell deal. Stoneman just never wanted to trade his prospects. For a major market team, that's a mistake.
by rlpete on
Oct 24, 2007 9:23 AM CDT
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Wrigley/Fenway
by ronsanto10 on Oct 23, 2007 6:32 PM CDT 0 recs
Chicago Blackhawks
I still follow all Chicago pro franchises (and College) except the Blackhawks. When I was a kid though, I used to be a big Blackhawks fan and then Dollar Bill ruined it for me. Now that he's dead and if the early reports are true that his son is trying to appease the fractured fan base, maybe it's safe to follow the team again and even buy some merchandise.
It's pathetic that the Blackhawks have been a sidenote in Chicago sports over the last 15+ years but it would be nice to see the Hawks get back some of their long lost fans and it would be great for the NHL.
by lemon20pie on Oct 23, 2007 6:51 PM CDT 0 recs
It's time to come back to the Hawks!
Johnathon Toews and Patrick Kane are the two kids you speak of and they are the real deal.
Both have pt. per game averages and if you didn't see the Toews goal versus Colorado, well, let's just say it's already been called the "goal of the season!"
by cubby23 on
Oct 23, 2007 7:25 PM CDT
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Toews goal...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e-UmeAqpx4
Can you say Denny Savard?
by JB 23 on
Oct 23, 2007 10:13 PM CDT
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There's more going on today at Wrigley.
by Al on Oct 24, 2007 9:38 AM CDT 0 recs
Lots of "divots" in left field
Anyway, I walked by the knothole about an hour ago and a bulldozer was ripping up left field. Looked like someone was pushing up one of those long carpet runners - the grass was just folding and piling up at the end but still somewhat intact. Also saw Boss Bossard walking the field, shovel in hand. Gotta love a hands on manager...
by ballhawk on
Oct 24, 2007 12:13 PM CDT
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The whole outfield's gone!
by Al on
Oct 24, 2007 12:55 PM CDT
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View from CF
by Al on
Oct 24, 2007 12:57 PM CDT
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Bare naked.
by sue369 on
Oct 24, 2007 1:56 PM CDT
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LMAO
by Al on
Oct 24, 2007 3:26 PM CDT
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Why does this hurt to look at?
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Oct 24, 2007 7:28 PM CDT
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