Open Thread: 2007 World Series Game #1
A few miscellaneous notes before diving in to the World Series:
- For those interested in the Japanese free agents, at least one of whom (Hiroki Kuroda) might be headed to the Cubs and one other (Kosuke Fukudome) who a lot of us would like the Cubs to sign, our favorite site (for people new to BCB, we started calling MLB Trade Rumors "our favorite site" back in 2005) has an analysis of those two, plus reliever Masahide Kobayashi, posted this morning.
- Nice story about Rockies manager Clint Hurdle and some of the mountains he had to climb to get to where he is now, at ESPN.com.
- Quick review of Monday night's Bruce Springsteen concert at the United Center, attended by me: man, I hope I have that much energy when I'm 58. Springsteen rocked out for two hours, pausing only briefly to make a few comments on the state of our society -- which, whether you agree with them or not, kind of made the show come to a stop for a bit. Otherwise he played several songs from his new CD, "Magic", including the new radio hit "Radio Nowhere", as well as many, many old favorites. Here's the setlist, but if you look at the handwritten list accompanying that link (note: opens .pdf file), you'll see that "Thunder Road" wasn't on it. A little kid right in front of the stage "requested" it, so Bruce played it and that, apparently, shortened what was to have been a longer encore. Bruce is a great showman and put on a great show, as always; even having one of his guitars stop working during "Promised Land" didn't faze him. This is the fourth time I've seen him, including at the Cell in 2003, and the review I wrote then isn't that different from what this show turned out to be. One big difference -- the stage was much smaller; unlike the towering presence on the field at the Cell, the UC stage was low enough that the seats behind the stage, usually "obstructed view" for concerts there, had an excellent view and Bruce even played to those seated there at times.
MLB.com Gameday for World Series Game #1 (7:23 pm CT start)
UPDATE [2007-10-24 13:07:58 by Al]: See the comments for the first pictures of the field-resodding project at Wrigley Field. The field's getting dug up today!
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Looks like the digging has started...
by cubsnlinux on Oct 24, 2007 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure why...
In the meantime, here are two views, in case you missed them in the comments in another thread:


by Al on Oct 24, 2007 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The infield, too.
by Al on Oct 24, 2007 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks Al
by mike on Oct 24, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sod for sale
Come to think of it, I have a few spots in my yard that I would love to drop in a 12" x 12" piece of Wrigley field turf.
And Cubs Marketers: If you are reading this and thinking: "Gee, why didn't WE think of that?" and actually decide to do this, I'm only asking 5% of the gross sod sales as a commission for the idea...or Cubs 2008 season tickets...whatever works for you...
by Zeke on Oct 24, 2007 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: Sod for sale
by dat cubfan daver on Oct 24, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Packers did it
by TkGoUWGB on Oct 24, 2007 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al
by cubsnlinux on Oct 24, 2007 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: Not sure why...
by dat cubfan daver on Oct 24, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pre- '68 Bob Gibson mound level!
by Zeke on Oct 24, 2007 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!
Didn't catch the Boss in Chicago, but hope to if he comes through Indy on the next leg. I've seen him several times before, and agree with you that the political comments can bring the show to a halt. Bruce was a Reagan basher in the 80's so I would expect on this tour to hear some sermonizing on how our country is threatened by denying habeas corpus to enemy combatants and the like. For my money, I don't get too shook up over the NSA trying to snoop in on people who may be plotting to try another 9-11. Oh well.
I'm a Hoosier, so I'm used to rock star political sermons from brother Mellencamp.
It would be refreshing to hear a right wing rocker sometimes. "ARE YOU READY TO ROCK, CLEVELAND?! ARE YOU READY FOR SOME CUTS ON MARGINAL INCOME TAX RATES?!" Maybe someday.....
by perseman on Oct 24, 2007 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would do almost anything
by mrcubsfan on Oct 24, 2007 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1978
Those were the prices back then.
I imagine ticket prices were a touch more for yesterday's show, eh?
by Zeke on Oct 24, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top price was $95...
by Al on Oct 24, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By compairison...
by Zeke on Oct 24, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Springsteen
I was also amazed at how many people were in the United Center. Guess I got used to being at Hawks games since I've been back and have never seen anything else there before!
Anyway, the concert brought back lots of college memories. I was even talking to the guy sitting next to me about Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes. I remember when no one from around here knew who they were!
by No Southern Belle on Oct 24, 2007 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The sod is all gone.

by Al on Oct 24, 2007 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Speedy!
All that sod gone in a DAY?
Maybe the Cubs got a look at the weather forecast for the next few weeks and figured they better "git" on with it while the gittin' was good.
by Zeke on Oct 24, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is really bare.
by sue369 on Oct 24, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just looking at that...
by bison on Oct 24, 2007 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's call Adam Dunn
by LAcarl519 on Oct 24, 2007 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know
by giddyup on Oct 24, 2007 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Knothole" is bigger than you think...
by ballhawk on Oct 24, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Via actually
by giddyup on Oct 24, 2007 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you gotta remember
by TkGoUWGB on Oct 24, 2007 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
soooo
by kylejo on Oct 24, 2007 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think
i'm a cubs fan in denver and the rockies are my 2nd team. i root for them as long as it does not hurt the cubs. i was at the game when the rockies won the nl championship. i have to say that, thrilling as it was, it made me a little sad when i thought of how great it would have been to see the cubs winning the nl at coors field instead.
still, i do love this rockies team - young, home-grown, and hungry. it's a nice change of pace from the complacent, over-priced stars that infest baseball these days....
by anormal on Oct 24, 2007 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
A majority of performers today would save the audience a lot of time by simply putting on the tickets: "(Insert performer's name here) would like to state up front that Bush is a criminal, and republicans want to take away your freedoms and deny your children health care. Thank you. Enjoy the show and please drive home safely!"
by Goat Whisperer on Oct 24, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love it
by psennett on Oct 24, 2007 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Counterpoint...
by Al on Oct 24, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
by Goat Whisperer on Oct 24, 2007 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
by Al on Oct 24, 2007 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Be Fair
by Goat Whisperer on Oct 24, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More counterpoint...
Bruce Springsteen has, over the years, made very sure he keeps himself informed. I suspect he's more deeply knowledgeable on a lot of things, political, social, and other, than many of us. And that is in large part why I have the respect for him that I do. (As opposed to a no-talent hack like Britney Spears or that "put a boot in your a__" mope, whose name I thankfully forgot.) Not to mention, a large part of his stage talking has always been urging the audience members to inform themselves, something much of this society could truly stand.
He can talk if he wants, because I also know he'll pick up that Telecaster, and launch into something truly awesome, within a few minutes.
And I say that as someone who's seen him at places going back to the Uptown Theater. Six or seven times at least, maybe more - I don't bother to keep track these days.
Bruce can talk all he wants. You don't have to buy a ticket, and it's not like he's started this only last week.
by MN exile on Oct 24, 2007 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This idiot...........
Informed? By who? Puh-leeezze..........
Sorry, but I'm not prepared to pay more than my monthly cable bill to be abused by a bully pulpit, and at least at that point I can change the channel.
by tville on Oct 24, 2007 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you actually have anything coherent to add?
Now, I'm not - and never have been - a U2 fan, nor Bono individually, and by the way, since when was he a part of the discussion?
And I think it's fair to ask what you consider "information" - Faux News? Rush? YOu write (?) like those are your sources.
You don't like it, don't buy an f-in' ticket. That's all.
Would you like it if I insulted the pathetic excuse for a proto-human being that is Ted Nugent? Called attention to his moronic outbursts and abysmal lack of musical talent? Would you like it if I told you that Chuck Norris was such a bad actor that he couldn't sell being warm if you set his pants leg on fire? (Not to mention that ludicrous beard dye-job the Chuck-strich has been sporting?) Or trashed Toby Keith (I remembered, dammit) for being simpleminded enough to insult the intelligence of an average mineral?
I won't, however, as I've never paid to endure any of them, and won't. So go revel in your Neanderthal tastes, and leave the quality stuff to those of us capable of understanding it.
</grouch>
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry...
by MN exile on Oct 24, 2007 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick jumps to...........
I don't care about the others you have mentioned, but also don't recall them lecturing to a captured concert audience. Nugent found politics after his touring days, I believe. I've never seen Norris allowed to break into speech during a movie or TV episode, and sorry, but I don't follow C&W to comment on Keith.
Truth is I don't want ANYONE preaching to me when I've purchased a ticket to a show. I'm attending because of the music, not for a lecture.
Let's face it: If you are going to a lecture, don't you want to hear from folks more scholarly than those listed above?
I DID buy tickets to shows BEFORE those musicians thought they had the right to lecture. I'm miffed over their newfound "rights" to bore us with their "informed" opinions.
By the way, Springsteen is a horrible guitarist and would fall to Nugent as Harrison did to Clapton.
by tville on Oct 25, 2007 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a performer wants to incorporate his views
If you don't want to hear it, then you have the right not to go or buy a ticket.
Nice how that all works out, isn't it?
by SuperContext on Oct 25, 2007 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
by NO100 on Oct 25, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another thing about the Springsteen and U2
Which brings us to the more important point- you're approaching these musicians as entertainment. They're approaching what they do-songwriting- as an art. So now we're upset because our entertainment is trying to push political agenda's, which its not supposed to do as we see it. The songwriters however since they view what they're doing as an art do so in a way that communicates things they care about- to do otherwise would be insincere. So whether or not we like their politics, we should realize this when we listen to their music. I for one can appreciate a well written song whether or not it reflects a view I hold or perspective I understand.
by philadelphiacub on Oct 25, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I agree with all you wrote
I recognize that we have market forces at work. If someone wants to pay $100 for a ticket, then that's the price of admission - Cubs bleacher seat tix are a perfect example. But, we know that the Cubs organization primary purpose is to make money.
by NO100 on Oct 25, 2007 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is indeed............
And it's not a bully pulpit if the attendee knows this stuff is coming. They chose to attend.
But when one has already dropped big coin on tickets, anticipating a concert but instead forced to listen to one of these douche bags drone on about their political views, it can turn folks sour.
Interesting these artists don't promote their tours by saying, "Come listen to (pick one) give his tremendous insight into international politics, as well as play a few tunes you've come to know and love".
Gee, I wonder why????
by tville on Oct 25, 2007 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Yo ... hold on now
I don't know where you get your impression of Toby Keith, but he's one of the best country performers around. And I write that from the perspective of being a rocker at heart. I'm a huge fan of U2, Bruce Springsteen, and stuff that makes Metallica sound like a Sunday church service (Meshuggah anyone?), but I can recognize greatness in other forms of music when I see it.
By the way, I'm not sure what the "I remebered" reference was in regards to.
by NO100 on Oct 25, 2007 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On this tour...
Looking forward to my 82nd Springsteen show over the last 30 years tomorrow night. 'Cause it's all about the man and his music.
by bison on Oct 24, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al--
Trish in Little Rock
(though I'll be happy if either team wins)
by Littlerock Rynofan on Oct 24, 2007 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ack!
by Matt Allison on Oct 24, 2007 7:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Drone...
by Goat Whisperer on Oct 24, 2007 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
World Series weather
by DeRoMyHero on Oct 24, 2007 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McCarver is not bright...
by SouthernCub on Oct 24, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For you Bosox haters
http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/story/191848.html
PS I have been a proud cockroach for three decades
by jessica on Oct 24, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Serious question here....
I really never thought about it, but Manny seems to know where the ball is going to go, and is usually prepared for it. I think that Soriano is still learning how to do this....
by zevkalman on Oct 24, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not watching the game but no
He was did however pull off one of my favorite plays of all time
eithe last year or the year before when he CUT OFF THE THROW TO THE CUT OFF MAN with a great leaping grab. You just had to see it to believe it. I don't Soriano is ever going to do that.
by jessica on Oct 24, 2007 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just Manny being Jim Edmonds...
You know how Edmonds holds off on some of his catches so he can dive at the end and make it look much tougher than it actually was? Manny does the same thing, except he's smart enough not to have to dive. Sure he's not the fastest guy out there but he figures out quick enough if he can get to it or not, and then adjusts his speed accordingly to just get to it at the end.
It looked like a tough catch, but believe me it wasn't - Manny had it all the way. I'm surprised he didn't flip off his cap at the end like he does when he's rounding third... ;-)
Oh, to answer your question... IMO, Soraino is a much better left-fielder than Manny. But I'd love to see both of their bats in the Cubs' lineup.
by ballhawk on Oct 24, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's the color guy on Fox tonight?
Didn't he realize that the Rocks played the Mets and Diamondbacks? The kind of announcers we've seen in the playoffs are pretty lame...no one does his homework....
by zevkalman on Oct 24, 2007 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did the Rockies show up for the game?
by love the ivy on Oct 24, 2007 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody who's watching the game...
by DTJchris on Oct 24, 2007 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep - at least once.
by ballhawk on Oct 24, 2007 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...that's awesome, thanks
by DTJchris on Oct 24, 2007 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh man, Red Sox fans have to be pissed...
arrrggghhh....
To paraphrase Pink Floyd: "Just 5 minutes, Worm your honor. Me and Bud alone..."
by ballhawk on Oct 24, 2007 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is now, but it was 7th when I made my post
by ballhawk on Oct 24, 2007 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, read the link...
by bison on Oct 24, 2007 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh.... my [partial] bad.
I still stand by my Bud-bashing comments though. The guy professes to be such a fan (and I kinda still believe that) but he seems to be doing all he can to mess things up for the average joe/jane fan. I just wish once he'd say "hey -we're doing this for the money" instead of trying to convince us poor folks how this is for us.
by ballhawk on Oct 25, 2007 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard at work at Wrigley Field on Thursday morning.

by Al on Oct 25, 2007 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why cover
by mike on Oct 25, 2007 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because they might be using these
by cubsnlinux on Oct 25, 2007 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm thinking.
by Al on Oct 25, 2007 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that makes sense.
by mike on Oct 25, 2007 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This job is going very quickly
by Al on Oct 25, 2007 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al
by cubsnlinux on Oct 25, 2007 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That image shows up fine.
by Al on Oct 25, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im going to go on the tour again next summer
by mike on Oct 25, 2007 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bottom Right of the Picture
by Goat Whisperer on Oct 25, 2007 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SUNDAY!!! SUNDAY!!! SUNDAY!!!
Sam Zell crunched the numbers and figured out that he can get more money out of Wrigley Field by having Demolition Derbies, Tractor Pulls and Monster Truck shows there. Take another look at those pictures and tell me I'm wrong. Get your tickets now!!!
SUNDAY!!! SUNDAY!!! SUNDAY!!!
by ballhawk on Oct 25, 2007 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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