Get Over It, Crybabies!

by jpalaska on Oct 7, 2007 12:42 AM CDT

I'm disappointed too. Very disappointed
But this diary is directed at the whiners that are blaming Lou P.
He is, in my opinion, the best thing to come to the Cubs in many years. He did a terrific job of taking what he was given in his first year of managing last year's Comedy Central doormat team.
It wasn't Lou who got swept, it was a bunch of mega-millionaire players who didn't perform when the rubber met the road. No surprise, really. Did you really think that Lou could take last year's doormat team and even win the division in his first year?
It's October, are you still waiting for the Easter Bunny to bring you Belgian chocolates?

Lou did a fantastic job with a team that no one would have wagered real money on winning even 3rd place in Comedy Central last June.

And don't tell me how long you've suffered as a disappointed Cubs fan. If you can tell me who was Barry Goldwater's VP candidate, then I'll listen to you. BTW, I dated his daughter Mary, who went to Newton College.

Hang in there 'till next year
Really!
JP

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100% right

I saw the topic and thought this was a Brewers or Cards fan trying to make our day worse.

I agree with you. Lou did an excellent job. I don't disagree with anything he did throughout the year and post season (with the exception of his belief Dempster could close non-save games). Regardless, our big players didn't perform.

Big props to Theriot who went out there and treated every played every moment like it was the biggest game ever. I'd say the same about DeRosa but that DP he got into will take a few more days for me to forget...

In the end, if there's one thing Lou can be blamed for it is not recognizing that our our hitting coach was doing a poor job. From our low HR activity to constantly getting into DP's. He did a lousy job and I think that's one area that should be focused on improving. A hitting coach to get our big bats in better shape for 2008.

by ak123 on Oct 7, 2007 1:09 AM CDT reply actions

Stop blaming the hitting coach...

... and start blaming the hitters.

The Cubs were much improved at the plate this year, showing more discipline than they had in years.

Hitting coaches teach philosophies, concepts. They try to correct bad habits and reinforce good ones.

Unfortunately, hitters are difficult animals to train. They have their ways of doing things and can be difficult to change dramatically.

The truth is that guys like Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, DeRosa, etc. are never going to change their style dramatically. They might start hitting to the opposite field a little more, or pulling the ball a little more. But they are what they are, and the Cubs are either going to have to live with that or try to deal them for someone else. It doesn't matter if that coach is Jeff Pentland, Gerald Perry, Sarge, or whoever.

In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband

by Ross on Oct 7, 2007 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Well

you're right on some things, but you're wrong with on others. First of all, Lou, nor any ONE single person is to blame for this. They played lousy. Period. However, Lou is bound to take heat, and when you're in that profession and make some of the moves he did, he deserves it. I'm not going to get in to the reasons why taking Z out was dumb; it just was. Also, he was given a team because money was spent I'm sure there were others who could have led this team. It was the Central Division, pretty weak. I'm happy they made it this far, and its a helluva difference from last year, and this year unlike others, we don't need much. A RF and another good starter. I think Theriot will do fine in the leadoff spot if given to him. Also, the heading for this topic isn't really fair. You shouldn't tell people, especially on a night when a lot of hearts are empty to stop being "Cry Babies". Also, it doesn't matter a lick of difference how old you are. Age doesn't make you the fan you are. My Dad is 56, likes the Cubs, has technically waited more than I have, yet he'll be the first to tell you it means more to me. Age isn't everything to being a fan.

I would not fight Jason Kendall.

by TCobb1911 on Oct 7, 2007 1:45 AM CDT reply actions

Not Lou's fault at all

Lee, Soriano, Ramirez left 25+ runners on base this series and didn't have any RBIs. That's terrible. I hope this lights a fire deep in them instead of making them feel like crap players. We'll need them in the following years to come, but man they ruined this series for us.

by IllinoisCubs on Oct 7, 2007 2:00 AM CDT reply actions

Isn't it

Lou's job as manager to have these primma donnas ready to perform?

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Oct 7, 2007 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions

Lou's job

Lou's job is to put the pieces in place...he needs to put the right people in the right position to perform.

The right people were in right position...they just did not perform.

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Oct 7, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Not putting all the blame on Lou...

....to put all the blame on one person of the most futile series played by any team in playoffs history is silly.

But like every single player on that 25 man roster, Lou certainly has his share of blame as a Manager. You can't have it both ways. You can't say he's the greatest Manager ever to wear a Cubs uniform and have your team play absolutely horrible, while others get the blame.

Everyone sucked. Period. Everybody knows it too and have yet to see 1 post by anyone putting all the blame on Lou, so i'm not sure the reason for this diary and the opinions expressed within it.

by lemon20pie on Oct 7, 2007 2:17 AM CDT reply actions

* Carlos *

* You ready to pitch game 4? *

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Oct 7, 2007 2:18 AM CDT reply actions

you are a loser

nobody finds you funny

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Oct 7, 2007 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions

Bill Miller

and the day they lost was even sadder than today.

It's not to late to go to Soto.

by tharr on Oct 7, 2007 3:10 AM CDT reply actions

Bingo

You win the gold doubloon.

"Everything that rises must converge"

by jpalaska on Oct 7, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions

This part of the thread....

.. could become political.

So let's stop here.

Thanks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Oct 7, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Of course Lou isn't to blame....

he never is...

he only gets all the credit for when they win

remember Lou won those 85 games, and the players lost the 80 other ones

UGH

Players win and lose games, managers rarely have an impact. In the 1 game where the manager had a chance to make an impact (Game 1) Lou made an atrocious decision in saving Z for Game 4...

No one is 100% responsible for this team's postseason struggles, NO ONE

but if you're going to give Lou the credit all season long for this team's turnaround, then you cant absolve him from blame right now

good news is Big Z is ready to pitch the game of his life today

by DartmouthCubsFan on Oct 7, 2007 8:30 AM CDT reply actions

Just remember:

Everybody was in love with Dusty Baker after his first season with the team 4 years ago. Not saying that the same thing will happen, but don't just expect all happy days ahead.

We need another SP, a SS, and Pie in CF.

by zam on Oct 7, 2007 8:54 AM CDT reply actions

We need Pie in CF?

What so he can hit .230?

How about a real CF, Torii Hunter? Rowand? Andruw Jones?

To hell with Pie.

GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 7, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions

I just can't understand

how people can root for Pie to take over CF duties. He is nothing more than a late inning defensive replacement and has shown time and again that he is light years away from being able to hit major league pitching. Hey may improve drastically by the next spring training, but I want to see a real Center Fielder next year.

by cubsnlinux on Oct 7, 2007 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions

Andruw Jones

hit .222 this year.

by qccub on Oct 7, 2007 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions

Jones may be a good pick-up

He had a horrible year and for no apparent reason. BUT, this marks down his value on the free agent market and if we picked him up we'd probably get a good deal.

He couldn't possibly have another .222 season.....could he?

When I hit a home run over the fence at Wrigley Field, I hit it over a Tru Link Fence. -Andre Dawson-

by wangchung on Oct 7, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

just say no

He has been on a very quick and rapid downward trend for a couple years now, we do not want him

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Oct 7, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions

It's always scary

when a player has his worst year when his contract is coming up. Don't know what happened to him, but he fell off big time.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 8, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

ok then

to hell with our future, too. I'd like to be able to win division championships in a few years too, not just right now.

Maybe we should just spend all of our time finding pricey free agents to spend our money on and hope they work out.

God knows all that "prospect" crap never worked for anybody like the Twins(Morneau, Mauer), Tigers(Granderson, Miller), Indians(Sizemore, Sabathia, Carmona), Yankees(Chamberlain, Hughes, Cano, Cabrera), Marlins(Cabrera, Ramirez from BOS), Phillies(Howard, Utley), Brewers(Fielder, Hardy, Hart, Braun, Weeks, Gwynn). Not to mention the numerous other young guys that completely demolished our Cubbies this past series. Need I name them off? Stephen Drew, Chris Young, Justin Upton, Mark Reynolds.

Even better news, they don't demand $136mil to hit in a lineup spot they don't belong. And they know the strike zone.

Good day.

by zam on Oct 7, 2007 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions