Rumors Of Kendall Swirling In Milwaukee
This is the first time I've posted anything here, but I've been reading the site for the whole of last season. I grew up in Hanover Park and I've been a Cubs fan my whole life, but I'm going to school up here in Milwaukee at UW. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel is carrying a report in this mornings edition that the Brewers are working quite hard on a deal for Former Cubs C Jason Kendall, with GM Doug Melvin expecting something to be done before Thanksgiving Day.
Obviously, this is just a rumor and like all others of its kind should be taken with a grain of salt. But the wording in the article makes it sound like a reliable rumor, if thats not some kind of oxymoron.
To me, this seems like nothing but good news for the Cubs. Yes, Kendall had some nice moments for us last year. But I fail to see how anyone can say that Soto is not a vast improvement over Kendall in almost every facet of a catcher's game. And furthermore, although the catching market is slim pickings this year and the Brewers were not likely to end up with a star, it is nice to know that for all those games next year here and in Milwaukee, we'll have one less hitting threat to contend against.
The Cubs should also have a bigger speed component next year, with Soriano healthy and Pie possibly in center. If we're going to be stealing bases, it can't hurt to have Kendall backing up the plate for the other team.
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If we have a speedy team
by HectorVillanueva on Nov 20, 2007 10:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
the best part
If they wait until after the arbitration deadline (december 7th-ish) they'll owe us nothing, since the cubs will definitely not offer Kendall arbitration.
By signing him soon, however, baseball makes the assumption in the benefit of the old team (namely the cubs), and the brewers will owe us a draft pick.
I'm not positive on this, but it sounds right.
by Thelonious on Nov 20, 2007 11:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
A clarification
So the Brewers don't lose anything. The only think that they might care about is keeping the Cubs from receiving a compensatory pick. My guess is that this is not a real concern with them.
DmL
by dmlichte on Nov 20, 2007 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, true
by Thelonious on Nov 20, 2007 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats almost right...
Something to do with the new bargaining agreement and the fact that Kendall is a Class-B free agent.
Don't quote me on that. I'm not in any way, shape, or form familiar with the rules governing this stuff. I just like baseball.
by cublessinmilwaukee on Nov 20, 2007 11:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Cliff notes of how it now works.
- Type A free agents (top 20% over the previous two seasons, by position as determined he Elias Sports Bureau): If they are offered arbitration or if they are signed before the arbitration deadline their former team receives compensation from the team who signs the player. If the signing team has a draft pick in the first half (top 15 picks) of the draft, they surrender their second round selection.
If a team signs more than 1 Type-A free agent who has been offered arbitration, they give up additional draft picks. The higher round pick goes to the team who lost the higher ranked player.
- Type B free agents (next 20%): If they are offered arbitration their old team will receive a compensation pick in a sandwich round between the first and second rounds. The order of the compensation round is determined by the ranking as determined by Elias.
Of course, teams that decline to offer arbitration to their own free agents receive no compensation.
DmL
by dmlichte on Nov 20, 2007 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
The funny thing is that I believe two years ago, the Giants were declining arbitration to players who had already signed with other teams and signing other player who weren't going to be offered arbitration before the Dec 7 deadline because they actively didn't want draft picks. They didn't want to pay the bonuses to amateur players. This is why the Giants stink, by the way.
by Josh77 on Nov 20, 2007 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great news for the Cubs
by DeRoMyHero on Nov 20, 2007 11:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
KazMat....DeRo
I'm not an old man (22), so I wasn't around during previous baseball generations, but I DO know that today's nicknames SUCK. We need some more creativity here....these nicknames are horrible and annoying.
by Thelonious on Nov 20, 2007 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So,
by HectorVillanueva on Nov 20, 2007 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
by Kinky Reggae on Nov 20, 2007 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What was that Baker nickname for Derrek Lee?
Anway, I'm up for more creative nicknames. Although I'm not sure the old nicknames I loved ("The Sarge" "The Penguin" "Ryno") were all that creative, either. I guess in comparison to the letter shortening variety they are.
Maybe this revamped nickname project needs its own diary.
by DGU on Nov 20, 2007 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually..
I do know that they refer to Cedeno as E6, and Scott Eyre as stumples, both of which I approve.
by Thelonious on Nov 20, 2007 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad about "stumples"
was describing the Lee/Furcal collision and mistakenly typed that Eyre stumpled instead of stumbled. I think we should just call him "stevie" now.
by jessica on Nov 20, 2007 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Answer
by krummy12 on Nov 20, 2007 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rodan is actually
Nicknames have been dying since the 1960s. (How can you beat Dr. Strangeglove?) Part of the problem is that the baseball writers of old (the Shirley Povich generation) were leaving the profession in favor of the Dick Young types. The old generation didn't go to modern Journalism schools and thought of themselves as writers first (and of course, there were sportswriters like Ring Lardner who became successful writers outside the sport) and thought nothing of spicing up a story about a ballplayer by making up a colorful nickname for them.
The new generation went to J-School and wanted to know what really went on in the clubhouse. They worshipped at the altar of objectivity and thought it was a sin to insert their own voice into a story. They wanted to know what they players called each other. That's how guys like Carl Yaztremski got the "great" nickname of "Yaz." Boring and unimaginative.
Then comes Chris Berman, who almost singlehandedly destroyed what was left of nicknames. A nickname is not a pun. (Although occasionally Berman did hit one, like calling Rex Hudler "The Wonder Dog.")
And a first initial and a first syllable of a last name is definitely not a nickname.
I love guys who have real nicknames. Unfortunately, they are few and far between. That Alex Rodriguez is "ARod" and not "The Miami Masher" leaves our sport for the worse.
Where have you gone, Oil Can Boyd? Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you. Woo hoo hoo.
by Josh77 on Nov 20, 2007 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Much as I detest Hawk Harrelson...
by Al on Nov 20, 2007 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your diary...
by dat cubfan daver on Nov 20, 2007 12:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well Blanco/Hill is not a terrible backup combo
Backup catchers are usually pretty bad, so it's not a terrible loss if Blanco/Hill is what we end up with. If we could only trade for Shoppach, that would be awesome.
by IllinoisCubs on Nov 20, 2007 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
by Thelonious on Nov 20, 2007 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blanco...
by Al on Nov 20, 2007 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
In absolute dollars it doesn't amount to much, so this isn't a huge deal. This is a silly allocation of money, though.
by Thelonious on Nov 20, 2007 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers trade Estrada
This likely is a precursor to a signing of Jason Kendall. Its had to believe that Estrada would be traded without his replacement in tow.
DmL
by dmlichte on Nov 20, 2007 5:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Estrada must be a walking cancer
by rlpete on Nov 20, 2007 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Normally I do it by figuring that...
I could be wrong, but it gives me comfort at nights.
by cwyers on Nov 20, 2007 8:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And that is exactly the reason...
I have heard in several places that Estrada was a terrible clubhouse guy, much as Todd Walker was. Todd Walker was a useful player statistically, and did produce fairly well as a Cub. There is a reason he wore out his welcome in six different cities very quickly, and it has nothing to do with his decent .289/.348/.435 career stats.
My feeling is that Estrada is the same type of person. Pretty good at baseball, bad at getting along with his teammates and manager.
by Al on Nov 21, 2007 4:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Estrada with the Braves
by DeRoMyHero on Nov 21, 2007 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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