Stone to Call White Sox Games
Per this note on chicagosports.com, Steve Stone is returning to the booth to call Friday home games for the Sox on the radio. Of note is the game June 27 against the Cubs. As a fan of Stone it kind of pains me to see him calling White Sox games. Didn't see this posted anywhere yet so I figured I'd post it.
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He's too good of an announcer not to be working regularly somewhere, though.
by Shanghai Badger on Dec 19, 2007 2:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My guess...
DmL:hopes that this doesn't have to turn into another "I hate that egotistical prick thread"
by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 2:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WOW
Farmer: "Swing and a long one"
Farmer: "Three run blast here and we're within a salm" (He actually said this last year when they were down something like 18-11)
Steve Stone is a good anaylst. Maybe not being able to see himself on TV amy lessen the EGO. Doubt it though.
by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 3:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
There's a great article
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2007/Stone-in-Exile/
by RynoHoF on Dec 19, 2007 3:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thank You For Sharing...
by initram on Dec 19, 2007 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you very much
by ctcoff99 on Dec 19, 2007 9:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is smart
I think he may have jumped at the Sox opportunity when he saw McDonough bolt to the Hawks. McDonough was really the only ally he had with the Cubs that could have possibly brought him back.
That may change with new ownership, but we'll see.
by MPH73 on Dec 20, 2007 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a good article
by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No credibility?
I stand by my opinion, I liked Stone growing up because I knew nothing else. After years of listening to his self-absorbed crap about himself and how he states his opinion as fact and how he is a jerk to callers on the radio shows, I have formed an opinion and it wont change.
Thats pretty honest.
by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have shown a clear bias
We all state our opinions as fact, just like you do here. Such is life.
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fine....
I love the Cubs more than any person I personnaly know; yet I do not withhold opinions, comments, predictions because my opinion could be considered and outlier.
You attacking my Steve Stone opinion "credibility" is humurous, its only a matter of time before Josh comments about my poor grammar.
by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it humorous?
by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
Now, you have no response to your stating I have no credibility and all.
By the way, I toned my sig. down because people were "outraged" at it.
by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hammer, I agree with you
by cubswin on Dec 19, 2007 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well.
Well....if you look at it another way if it were not for the Kent Mercker, Todd Walker, and huh huh laugh Dusty, Stoney would still have a job with the Cubs. Well......at least that is how Stoney and his PR crew would like to think.
by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yet
by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 8:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We agree
Did you ever notice he always needs to recheck the replay?
by Hammer on Dec 20, 2007 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gripion...
by DrCrawdad on Dec 19, 2007 9:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
for a few reasons
Its also a deal for those who pay interest to announcers. Some people don't care all that much about announcers. I personally like to listen to different teams to get a taste of other announcers.
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stone pony
"His game is not radio." Boyer said.
Seems as though Stone took the 13 game gig with the Sox as it gives him the flexibility to grab a national TV job. And clearly Stone is just hoping and waiting for the current Cubbie regime to go away so that he get the Cubbie TV gig (again).
Again, it is about keeping his options open.
"Nobody knows when the new owner will take over," Stone said. "The only thing I can say is if I'm familiar with the people who will own the team, I would like to have a discussion with them."
If Stone does have a role with the Cubs, how would that affect his radio duties with the crosstown Sox?
With tongue firmly in cheek, Boyer said, "It will be fun because then we can fire him."
by DrCrawdad on Dec 20, 2007 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I posted this several months ago.......
When Piniella and Sinatro joined Santo and Hendry, who had arrived first, they began to talk about the team and the batting order (Soriano at lead off or fifth, etc.), and then moved on to telling stories. They got around to Stone, and Santo and to a lesser extent Hendry told how Stone imploded at the end of 2004. Santo was the main story teller, but Hendry would confirm certain aspects, as Piniella and Sinatro had never heard the story. The thrust of the story was that if Stone would "be a man" and go down to Baker's office and apologize, he'd still be working with the Cubs today. Stone refused. An apology was demanded and expected because Stone called out the players and Baker on the air rather than say it to their faces, and when given the opportunity to talk face to face alone with them about it, he also refused to do that. So, either talk face to face about the team shortcomings Stone perceived or simply apologize for not criticizing them first to their faces. All involved at that time (2004) agreed Stone needed to do that. Piniella also thought so when he heard the story.
Well, we all know how that turned out. Suffice to say, Stone was hard enough for all of them to get along with anyway, and with this, it was the last straw. As long as Hendry, Santo, and whoever is left in the front office now who was there in 2004 is around, Stone will NEVER be a regular in the Cubs booth on radio or TV.
One more thing as it relates to oomments made about Santo's intelligence. Granted, the guy is an awkward speaker and he seems not to be tuned in a lot of the times. Sometimes that's probably true. However, in the few conversations I've had with him, he's very perceptive and observes and takes in more than people realize. Often, I think, what he sees just doesn't matter to him as he's decided at this stage of his life to focus in on what is important to him. Sometimes, a trivial baseball matter means more to him than something with more import because he realizes he doesn't have much time left, and he just wants to talk about what interests him or makes him happy, even if it often is himself. When he wants to, he can articulate any point he wants very well. To his detriment many times, he just chooses not to do so.
by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 8:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You're joking, right?
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stone got what he deserved
You may like Stone but many don't. He treats people like crap and it isn't just the Cubs who don't like him as a person. WGN wasn't broken up when he left either. His pompous, arrogant act got old for them too.
I just hope whoever buys the team is smart enough to never let him have any influence in decision making.
by cubswin on Dec 20, 2007 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now...
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 9:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK expert
by cubswin on Dec 20, 2007 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so you stand by made-up comments
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
reading is a skill you don't have
by cubswin on Dec 20, 2007 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Issues with Stone were
In summary, the general public hasn't been exposed to what others have seen that had to deal with him on a day to day basis. Merker was one of the ring leaders in 04, and that was wrong, but no one ever asks how tensions got to that point.
I have heard this from several sources who have been exposed to what the public hasn't and it's easy to summarize that Stone's departure drew no tears. I will acknowledge that the man is intelligent and knows baseball, but he is simply a guy who rubs many, the wrong way.
by MPH73 on Dec 20, 2007 9:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This seems...
But Stone wasn't blameless, and if the two "sides" had simply had a face-to-face, air-out-their-concerns meeting back in 2004 when this all happened, I agree, Stone would probably still be a Cubs broadcaster today.
by Al on Dec 20, 2007 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's not be sexist here.
by Al on Dec 20, 2007 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Her being the media person was his excuse....
by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stone's ego
Anyone who has been around people with these traits, can understand how it gets a little old after a while.
by MPH73 on Dec 20, 2007 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Joking?
by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well....
by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But the entire situation...
So tell me this... if you were Stone would you apologize to players who had been treating you the way that he was treated when he was simply doing his job? Again, this isn't about the end of the season blow-up, it was about the entire season.
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All I Can Say....
There's a saying- it never hurts to say you're sorry, especially if you don't mean it.
by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And those in the business...
Why would anyone go and apologize to people who were being verbally abusive to them?
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay....
by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your point...
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There may have been...
In any case, I think a face-to-face meeting where ALL parties would have at least put on the face and apologized would have solved this problem. Stone refused to do it and paid for it with his job -- and I imagine, even though he's had some good gigs since then, he probably privately regrets not doing this, because the Cubs job was the best one he's ever had.
by Al on Dec 20, 2007 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bar none...
Big surprise that Hendry was first to the bar.
by DrCrawdad on Dec 20, 2007 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! A Gratuitous Dig At Hendry!
by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and...
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, ah, duh, ooh, ah, um, ah, what was I saying...
"When he wants to, he can articulate any point he wants very well. To his detriment many times, he just chooses not to do so."
If this is true, and I do not believe it is, then that's worse than just by nature being an inarticulate, bumbling rube.
by DrCrawdad on Dec 20, 2007 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
But I love it that people take Stone to task for being a self promoter when WGN radio and the Cubs broadcast is a living billboard for Ron's Walk for the Cure, Jeff Santo, This Old Cub and Ron's HoF candidacy.
DmL
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Until
Stoney is a Hey Look At Me Kind Of Guy
Santo is raising money for a cure.....
Stoney needs to cure his ego and get over himself
by Hammer on Dec 20, 2007 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ya...
by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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