Stone to Call White Sox Games

by Schwa on Dec 19, 2007 2:40 PM CST

Per this note on chicagosports.com, Steve Stone is returning to the booth to call Friday home games for the Sox on the radio. Of note is the game June 27 against the Cubs. As a fan of Stone it kind of pains me to see him calling White Sox games. Didn't see this posted anywhere yet so I figured I'd post it.

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Stone

I understand why that would bother you.

He's too good of an announcer not to be working regularly somewhere, though.

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 19, 2007 2:34 PM CST reply actions

My guess...

... is that Stone wants to remain in the Chicago area, and part of this is that he will remain with WSCR doing the same gig he's done for the past few years. I do believe he'd like to return to the Cubs (gut instinct) and one would imagine that Ron Santo likely, with his health problems, may be nearing an end to his run of being a full time broadcaster. However I would not at all be surprised if Chris Singleton wasn't let go in the next year or two and Stone replaced him (or Darrin Jackson moved to radio and Stone teamed up with Harrelson).

DmL:hopes that this doesn't have to turn into another "I hate that egotistical prick thread"

by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 2:52 PM CST reply actions

WOW

......this is literally the ONLY way I could imagine that show of Farmer and Singleton getting WORSE. Ha, go figure.

Farmer: "Swing and a long one"
Farmer: "Three run blast here and we're within a salm" (He actually said this last year when they were down something like 18-11)

Steve Stone is a good anaylst. Maybe not being able to see himself on TV amy lessen the EGO. Doubt it though.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 3:05 PM CST reply actions

There's a great article

about Stone in Chicago Magazine a couple months ago.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2007/Stone-in-Exile/

"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Dec 19, 2007 3:15 PM CST reply actions

Thank You For Sharing...

...it was a pleasant read.

This is the Cubs new #1!

by initram on Dec 19, 2007 4:57 PM CST up reply actions

Thank you very much

for posting that article. As one of the biggest Steve Stone fans in the world, I thought Chip Caray nailed it in his analysis of Stoney, that "his best weapon is also his biggest obstacle, and it's that he's smart, and has to tell the world how smart he is", and in the process, comes off as condescending, which is absolutely true. He comes off as very arrogant and self promoting, and people like that, you either love them or hate them. Two other examples would be Howard Cosell and Bill O'Reilly, and I am also huge fans of both of them, even Cosell was a bit before my time. Make of that what you will. Maybe I just like arrogant people in a weird sort of way. But love him or hate him, most people at least agree on this about Stoney: no better baseball analyst has ever lived.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Dec 19, 2007 9:20 PM CST up reply actions

He is smart

but there were too many times you can add the word ass after smart as well.

I think he may have jumped at the Sox opportunity when he saw McDonough bolt to the Hawks. McDonough was really the only ally he had with the Cubs that could have possibly brought him back.

That may change with new ownership, but we'll see.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Dec 20, 2007 12:35 AM CST up reply actions

That was a good article

Obviously written by someone who loves him. Hes a baseball anaylst he isnt mayor. In response to his one wish.....he always talks about being in a front office or what if the Cubs offered him a GM job. No one has offered it so it should stop being talked about.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 3:21 PM CST reply actions

So

he's not supposed to answer questions? You are so freaking biased against Steve stone that you have no credibility as you have shown no ability to be honest on the subject.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 3:37 PM CST up reply actions

No credibility?

So my opinion on Stone is an outlier? Since I dislike him SO much my opinion has no credibility?

I stand by my opinion, I liked Stone growing up because I knew nothing else. After years of listening to his self-absorbed crap about himself and how he states his opinion as fact and how he is a jerk to callers on the radio shows, I have formed an opinion and it wont change.

Thats pretty honest.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 3:40 PM CST up reply actions

You have shown a clear bias

and acknowledge that you hate the man. Yet you cannot acknowledge that he has said that he doesn't want to be a GM or manager. He is asked questions and you blame him for answering them. You act as though Stone is the only man with ego. Please, I don't think I've seen an announcer with more ego than Ron Santo who makes the entire radio broadcast about himself, his movie, his disease, his Hall of Fame drive. People are egotistical. At least Stone has a brain in his head.

We all state our opinions as fact, just like you do here. Such is life.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 3:46 PM CST up reply actions

Fine....

.........agree to disagree. I just dont feel that since it is clear I dislike him more than the average former Steve Stone fan that my opinion has no credibility and is dishonest.

I love the Cubs more than any person I personnaly know; yet I do not withhold opinions, comments, predictions because my opinion could be considered and outlier.

You attacking my Steve Stone opinion "credibility" is humurous, its only a matter of time before Josh comments about my poor grammar.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 3:52 PM CST up reply actions

Why is it humorous?

You have a signature line about your dislike for Steve Stone which you have since toned down. Anytime your attacks about Steve Stone are questioned, like the fact that you claim he wants to be a GM when he has said that he doesn't, that you attack him for answering questions honestly, that most people in his position are egotistical, you have no response.

by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 3:58 PM CST up reply actions

Ha

In your first post you indicated you didnt want to get into this. So lets just end it. Most people in his position are egotistical-----agreed.

Now, you have no response to your stating I have no credibility and all.

By the way, I toned my sig. down because people were "outraged" at it.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 4:01 PM CST up reply actions

Anyways

....the press conference started....we all love the Cubs.................agreed!!!!!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 4:02 PM CST up reply actions

BTW

I never claimed he wanted to be a GM. My claim is that he is always denying reports about becoming a GM somewhere......yet, what he never mentioned is that it has not been offered, at least publicly.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 4:06 PM CST up reply actions

Hammer, I agree with you

about Stone. He's an arrogant POS, who now is in his self promotion mode. He QUIT THE CUBS JOB. Now he finds no one thinks he is the baseball god that he fashions himself as. Pretty funny that he quit the best TV job in the country and now will do part time radio for the 2nd team in a 2 team market. Couldn't happen to a bigger smuck. I just can't stop laughing about this.

by cubswin on Dec 19, 2007 6:18 PM CST up reply actions

Well.

ha to the way you put it, I didnt think of it that way. It is interesting they way it is put out there about him 'leaving' the Cubs.

Well....if you look at it another way if it were not for the Kent Mercker, Todd Walker, and huh huh laugh Dusty, Stoney would still have a job with the Cubs. Well......at least that is how Stoney and his PR crew would like to think.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 19, 2007 6:35 PM CST up reply actions

yet

people love Ron Santo, who self promotes unlike any person I've ever seen. Its just that he's dumb, so people feel comfortable with his down home tone.

by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 8:18 PM CST up reply actions

We agree

On Santo. My biggest complaint with Santo is that I am listening to the game to know whats going on....sometimes Ronny makes that tough

Did you ever notice he always needs to recheck the replay?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 20, 2007 9:13 AM CST up reply actions

Gripion...

...Stone's only going to be in the Sox broadcast booth for 13 games. I don't see what the big deal is in that.

"...the Sox ... may be even more marginal after the Cubs win the 2007 World Series." - Cubbie fan "Joe Alberti" as posted in the White Sox NG on 9/21/2007.

by DrCrawdad on Dec 19, 2007 9:46 PM CST reply actions

for a few reasons

Maybe not a big deal but its a decent size deal depending on who you are. From a Cub fan's perspective its noteworthy that a former Cubs announcer is now with the Sox, if only for 13 games. I am sure it was mentioned on the Cubs NG (Blogs probably weren't really well used) when Josh Lewin moved from to the Tigers and to the Rangers.

Its also a deal for those who pay interest to announcers. Some people don't care all that much about announcers. I personally like to listen to different teams to get a taste of other announcers.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 19, 2007 11:38 PM CST up reply actions

Stone pony

From the Ed Sherman article, Stone does not want a full-time radio gig (and that appears to exclude a full-time radio job with the Sox OR the Cubs.)

Brooks Boyer, the White Sox's vice president for marketing, contends if Stone goes back to working with a team full time, it will be on television.

"His game is not radio." Boyer said.

Seems as though Stone took the 13 game gig with the Sox as it gives him the flexibility to grab a national TV job. And clearly Stone is just hoping and waiting for the current Cubbie regime to go away so that he get the Cubbie TV gig (again).

...With Tribune Co. set to sell the Cubs, Stone has expressed interested in having a role with the new owners.

Again, it is about keeping his options open.

"Nobody knows when the new owner will take over," Stone said. "The only thing I can say is if I'm familiar with the people who will own the team, I would like to have a discussion with them."

If Stone does have a role with the Cubs, how would that affect his radio duties with the crosstown Sox?

With tongue firmly in cheek, Boyer said, "It will be fun because then we can fire him."

"...the Sox ... may be even more marginal after the Cubs win the 2007 World Series." - Cubbie fan "Joe Alberti" as posted in the White Sox NG on 9/21/2007.

by DrCrawdad on Dec 20, 2007 12:20 AM CST up reply actions

I posted this several months ago.......

When we were in San Francisco last summer for the Cubs road trip we sat next to Piniella, Sinatro, Santo and Hendry in the team hotel bar. They were friendly to us and were in a good mood as the team had won the first two games of the series.

When Piniella and Sinatro joined Santo and Hendry, who had arrived first, they began to talk about the team and the batting order (Soriano at lead off or fifth, etc.), and then moved on to telling stories. They got around to Stone, and Santo and to a lesser extent Hendry told how Stone imploded at the end of 2004. Santo was the main story teller, but Hendry would confirm certain aspects, as Piniella and Sinatro had never heard the story. The thrust of the story was that if Stone would "be a man" and go down to Baker's office and apologize, he'd still be working with the Cubs today. Stone refused. An apology was demanded and expected because Stone called out the players and Baker on the air rather than say it to their faces, and when given the opportunity to talk face to face alone with them about it, he also refused to do that. So, either talk face to face about the team shortcomings Stone perceived or simply apologize for not criticizing them first to their faces. All involved at that time (2004) agreed Stone needed to do that. Piniella also thought so when he heard the story.

Well, we all know how that turned out. Suffice to say, Stone was hard enough for all of them to get along with anyway, and with this, it was the last straw. As long as Hendry, Santo, and whoever is left in the front office now who was there in 2004 is around, Stone will NEVER be a regular in the Cubs booth on radio or TV.

One more thing as it relates to oomments made about Santo's intelligence. Granted, the guy is an awkward speaker and he seems not to be tuned in a lot of the times. Sometimes that's probably true. However, in the few conversations I've had with him, he's very perceptive and observes and takes in more than people realize. Often, I think, what he sees just doesn't matter to him as he's decided at this stage of his life to focus in on what is important to him. Sometimes, a trivial baseball matter means more to him than something with more import because he realizes he doesn't have much time left, and he just wants to talk about what interests him or makes him happy, even if it often is himself. When he wants to, he can articulate any point he wants very well. To his detriment many times, he just chooses not to do so.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 8:38 AM CST reply actions

You're joking, right?

Yes, this is the Cubs front office's perspective on the story. Did they say anything about Cubs players calling up to the radio booth? Did they say anything about Kent Mercker and other players acting totally inappropriate towards Stone and Caray on the radio and in the team hotel? I'm sure not. Was Stone over the top at the end of the year? Yup. Did this follow an entire season of players and their manager acting totally inappropriate towards the announcers who weren't willing to kiss their ass, without a doubt.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 8:59 AM CST up reply actions

Stone got what he deserved

Never forget a lot of it related to a salary drive for Dippy. He thought he deserved a big increase and he wasn't going to get it.
You may like Stone but many don't. He treats people like crap and it isn't just the Cubs who don't like him as a person. WGN wasn't broken up when he left either. His pompous, arrogant act got old for them too.

I just hope whoever buys the team is smart enough to never let him have any influence in decision making.

by cubswin on Dec 20, 2007 9:15 AM CST up reply actions

Now...

... you're simply making stuff up.

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 9:21 AM CST up reply actions

OK expert

I'll stand by what I wrote. Maybe if you weren't a message board genius and actually knew people, then I'd care. But you don't, so I won't. I'll believe the people I know and what they think about the situation.

by cubswin on Dec 20, 2007 9:31 AM CST up reply actions

so you stand by made-up comments

This infamous "Salary drive" rubbed WGN the wrong way, yet they ended up paying Stone's replacement several hundred thousand dollars more than they paid Stone. Um OK.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 9:44 AM CST up reply actions

reading is a skill you don't have

the salary drive was for Dippy.

by cubswin on Dec 20, 2007 10:11 AM CST up reply actions

Or...

...perhaps name calling is a little unnecessary as it doesn't lend itself to identifying which person you're talking about.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 10:42 AM CST up reply actions

Issues with Stone were

brewing for a long time before the 04 blowup. For the most part, Stone has gotten a pass from media, which has helped create the "he got screwed" perception.

In summary, the general public hasn't been exposed to what others have seen that had to deal with him on a day to day basis. Merker was one of the ring leaders in 04, and that was wrong, but no one ever asks how tensions got to that point.

I have heard this from several sources who have been exposed to what the public hasn't and it's easy to summarize that Stone's departure drew no tears. I will acknowledge that the man is intelligent and knows baseball, but he is simply a guy who rubs many, the wrong way.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Dec 20, 2007 9:36 AM CST up reply actions

This seems...

... the most logical conclusion to draw. Were the players wrong for doing what they did? Sure they were.

But Stone wasn't blameless, and if the two "sides" had simply had a face-to-face, air-out-their-concerns meeting back in 2004 when this all happened, I agree, Stone would probably still be a Cubs broadcaster today.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Dec 20, 2007 10:00 AM CST up reply actions

Yep

And that's all that they were asking of Stone after the big blow up, was for him to meet face to face with Baker and the players. he didn't have to change his opinion or retract what he said, just apologize for not saying it to them first. Stone refused. When he was told his job might be on the line, he sent Sharon Panozzo instead, and that's what really set off Cub management. Not only couldn't he be a man and face them, he sent a woman instead.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 11:05 AM CST up reply actions

Well, let's not be sexist here.

I suspect Stone sent Pannozzo because she was the Cubs media relations director, not because she was female.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Dec 20, 2007 12:16 PM CST up reply actions

Her being the media person was his excuse....

... but since they were telling HIM to "be a man" and it turns out he sends her, the way it was received and perceived by those in 2004 was that he did send a woman, no matter her job, to do a "man's" work.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 6:57 PM CST up reply actions

ya

and apparently to the 2004 Chicago Cubs, doing a mans work was threatening other people with physical violence when you can't stand the truth.

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 7:59 PM CST up reply actions

Stone's ego

wouldn't allow him to do that and that is his main problem in dealing with people. Chip Carey was right, Stone is smart, but the problem comes from Stone needing to think he is smarter than everybody else.

Anyone who has been around people with these traits, can understand how it gets a little old after a while.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Dec 20, 2007 11:16 AM CST up reply actions

Joking?

I'm just repeating what I heard that night. I've purposely left out some things and the language used, but I heard what I heard. If this doesn't mesh with what you think you know, I can't help that. The gist of the story is that for whatever reason, Stone is persona non grata with the current ownership and front office of the Cubs.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 10:54 AM CST up reply actions

Ya

he clearly is on the outs with the Cubs. My point is that this is a total one-sided story, as is anyone who thinks that Stone is totally innocent in the situation. I just love it that Stone is supposed to come down and apologize when Cub players are berating and threatening him. I'd love to know what Piniella thought of that. I think Lou would have been repulsed by the way Dusty ran his clubhouse.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 11:03 AM CST up reply actions

Well....

...he wasn't asked to face them all, just a few. The story goes that they could grudgingly accept Stone criticizing them, they just didn't want to hear about it first from someone else since they saw him all the time, traveling with the team, etc. Being a former player, they thought he "knew the code." That way, when his comments were repeated to Baker or whoever, Baker or the player could say they knew and had a ready response if they wanted. They felt blindsided, and he more or less gave them the finger over it, as far as they were concerned. In the end, Cub management felt the same way.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 11:09 AM CST up reply actions

But the entire situation...

... snowballed. It started out with players calling the booth because Stone and Caray said good things about other players. This escalated into players berating Caray and Stone on the team plane and hotel elevator. This happened well before Stone's end of the year blow-up. Stone and Caray were simply saying the exact same types of things that Bob Brenly has been saying over the past few years. Stone had nothing to apologize for in terms of his on-air analysis. His end of the season blow-up was certainly not professional however what the players got pissed at him for was his job and what most broadcasters do. The problem was that the Cubs had a manager who created an us against them mentality. He did this against Stone and Caray, against the media, and against all us racist Cub fans.

So tell me this... if you were Stone would you apologize to players who had been treating you the way that he was treated when he was simply doing his job? Again, this isn't about the end of the season blow-up, it was about the entire season.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 11:16 AM CST up reply actions

All I Can Say....

...is from what I overheard, his job wasn't on the line until the end of the season blow up. So to answer your question, if I was told or it was strongly implied to me I could lose my Cub TV color job if I didn't have a face to face with them and apologize, no matter what happened before, I'd do it.

There's a saying- it never hurts to say you're sorry, especially if you don't mean it.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 11:22 AM CST up reply actions

And those in the business...

... likely want to maintain their professional integrity...unless they work for ESPN. The point that I'm trying to make is that it never would have come to this had Piniella or someone with some balls been managing the team. Dusty not only allowed it to fester, letting his players act like little brats, he made it worse. This is Dusty's MO and why so many observers who typically like the Cubs turned against them towards the end of 2004. Prime example was Marty Brennaman who had a lot of choice words about Dusty and the 2004 Cubs at that time. It will be fascinating to see those two working together.

Why would anyone go and apologize to people who were being verbally abusive to them?

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 11:38 AM CST up reply actions

Okay....

... I don't have any more insight than to offer up what I heard that night in San Francisco. The jist I got was that Stone had a problem with difficult face to face encounters, so I'm surmising it was to the point where he couldn't even face them when they were abusing HIM. So if he chose to "abuse" them back over the air instead, it would seem both sides made mistakes. That doesn't mean someone couldn't rise above the fray. Why not Stone? And no matter what the circumstances, if the job I loved and meant so much to me was on the line over something ultimately so stupid, I'd at least give strong consideration to apologizing or addressing the matter in person as opposed to sending Sharon Panozzo to deal with it, even if I thought I was absolutely right.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 11:57 AM CST up reply actions

I understand your point...

... but comparing Kent Mercher threatening Steve Stone in an elevator is abusive and aggressive while it is more than a stretch to say that Stone calling out the Cubs for lacking focus, as bluntly as he did, is the same thing. Yes, Stone lost the job he loved. All parties involved, stone, the players, and the front office are to blame. I just love the revisionist history that Santo and Hendry were portraying to Piniella and Sinatro.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 12:13 PM CST up reply actions

There may have been...

... other incidents over the years that we don't know about, and that what happened at the end of '04 was the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back".

In any case, I think a face-to-face meeting where ALL parties would have at least put on the face and apologized would have solved this problem. Stone refused to do it and paid for it with his job -- and I imagine, even though he's had some good gigs since then, he probably privately regrets not doing this, because the Cubs job was the best one he's ever had.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Dec 20, 2007 12:21 PM CST up reply actions

Bar none...

"When Piniella and Sinatro joined Santo and Hendry, who had arrived first (at the bar)..."

Big surprise that Hendry was first to the bar.

"...the Sox ... may be even more marginal after the Cubs win the 2007 World Series." - Cubbie fan "Joe Alberti" as posted in the White Sox NG on 9/21/2007.

by DrCrawdad on Dec 20, 2007 8:59 AM CST up reply actions

Hey! A Gratuitous Dig At Hendry!

Who knew? And as if you care, Santo and Hendry arrived together that night. Hendry had merlot, and so did Santo. Pinella and Sinatro had beer, Amstel Light if I remember correctly. And I'll save you a question. How do I know? I bought it.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 20, 2007 10:59 AM CST up reply actions

and...

... as far as Santo often choosing not to articulate points well, that's his freaking job. I get a kick out of listening to Pat and Ron on the radio but Santo is a horrid color commentator. I cannot honestly say that I have ever heard Santo choose to articulate a point well. I believe you're giving him far too much credit.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 9:01 AM CST up reply actions

Um, ah, duh, ooh, ah, um, ah, what was I saying...

You're right Dan.

"When he wants to, he can articulate any point he wants very well. To his detriment many times, he just chooses not to do so."

If this is true, and I do not believe it is, then that's worse than just by nature being an inarticulate, bumbling rube.

"...the Sox ... may be even more marginal after the Cubs win the 2007 World Series." - Cubbie fan "Joe Alberti" as posted in the White Sox NG on 9/21/2007.

by DrCrawdad on Dec 20, 2007 9:10 AM CST up reply actions

Yup

The options as provided above are that he's either too dumb to articulate his thoughts or too lazy to articulate his points. Like I said, I get the value of Ron and Pat and its entertaining, but then I listen to another team's broadcast and I'm ready for something better.

But I love it that people take Stone to task for being a self promoter when WGN radio and the Cubs broadcast is a living billboard for Ron's Walk for the Cure, Jeff Santo, This Old Cub and Ron's HoF candidacy.

DmL

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 9:20 AM CST up reply actions

Until

Stoney creates a fundraising organization that does GOOD for the world and people please dont compare the two.....two completely different things.

Stoney is a Hey Look At Me Kind Of Guy
Santo is raising money for a cure.....
Stoney needs to cure his ego and get over himself

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Dec 20, 2007 9:58 AM CST up reply actions

ya...

... if Santo just pushed JDRF thats fine. but every broadcast is about his movie and his son. He gets pissed at Pat when Hughes jokingly misstates Santo's gold gloves. The Cubs radio broadcast is one big Ron Santo Hall of Fame promotion. I'm not sure what you believe Steve Stone "self promotes".

by dmlichte on Dec 20, 2007 10:03 AM CST up reply actions