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New advertising at Wrigley?

Forgive me if this has been posted already, but I just read this article and got a little knot in my stomach. Apparently, there will be new Under Armour ads on the outfield doors in both right and left. Yuck:

The green doors tucked into the ivy in the left- and right-field bleachers of Wrigley Field will be decorated with 7-by-12 foot advertisements, touting Under Armour's signature logo.

It's the first time the Cubs have allowed any ad or sign on the outfield doors. Jay Blunk, director of marketing and sales for the team, said the Cubs have been approached by other companies wanting to use the space. He said Under Armour was the "right fit."

See the full article here.

Now, I realize this is a new era of mega-bucks advertising (and the Cubs already have a hard time competing with all the newer stadiums), but does anyone else see a problem with this? I know we're going to need some fast cash to pay for a $300 million shopping spree, but this seems like the beginning of a lot of "upgrades" to Wrigley. What say you BCB?

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This is incredibly sad
but probably inevitable. We held out a very long time.
WARD!

by cubbieboy on Feb 14, 2007 7:30 PM CST reply actions  

This makes me sick.
Actually, physically sick.

What a sad turn of events. I guess this is what we receive with McDonut at the helm.

by FukudomeAtLarge on Feb 14, 2007 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

You're probably right
I was just hoping we could hold on a little longer. The article basically says "hey, if you want us to keep paying the big bucks, we have to do this." Too bad.

by ar_hawkins on Feb 14, 2007 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

I don't have a problem.
It doesn't look perfect, but I don't really care.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to care, but Wrigley has never been a big thing for me. I just love going there because the Cubs play there.  However, I do understand why people wouldn't like it.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 14, 2007 7:42 PM CST reply actions  

Yabbut
is this just a step to eventually changing the scoreboard, the outfield wall, the seats, etc etc? I just hope it doesn't signify a change in philosophy that anything in Wrigley is open for advertising. I personally love Wrigley for its simplicity and focus on one thing - baseball. All the constant advertising/noises/distractions take away from the game IMHO.

by ar_hawkins on Feb 14, 2007 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...
I don't mind the noises.  Sometimes I even like them, but they do get annoying and most places overuse them a ton. That's why I'd rather not have them.  It would be especially pathetic if they ever tell me to 'make some noise' through some special display.

I don't even notice the rotating add, unless it has Cubs players. I don't even buy the stuff they advertise the majority of the time.  My dad and I have fun with the radio ads though. Every time we see a Jiffy Lube we say what Pat says for every pitching change. But anyway.

Like I said, I don't pay much attention to this stuff. I'm sure I have a limit with this, but I'm not sure what it is.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 14, 2007 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That Picture
At the linked article looks like something out of the Heckler.  Actually, this whole thing looks like something out of the Heckler.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but if it pays for Soriano I may have to grin and bear it.

¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Feb 14, 2007 7:44 PM CST reply actions  

Haha
Yeah, I know.  At first I was like are you KIDDING me?

by ar_hawkins on Feb 14, 2007 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Sad that there's not a company
Willing to pay the big bucks to keep advertising OFF Wrigley.
Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Feb 14, 2007 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

That would be great.
And you know what?  Since they would really not be getting anything for their money, it could probably be considered "charitable donations" and could be a tax write-off.  I am not even an accountant, and I came up with that one myself.

 

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Feb 15, 2007 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

To be physically sick or even upset about this
is silly if you ask me.  I have heard they are negotiating with Fox to start all games at 1:24 to promote the hit series.

by SonnyJ9 on Feb 14, 2007 8:06 PM CST reply actions  

Are you serious??
What sets Wrigley apart is the historic aspect of the stadium. No advertising, scores changed by hand, and ivy on the walls. This is a serious happening that doesn't bode well for the future.
WARD!

by cubbieboy on Feb 14, 2007 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

But the one constant
has always been the integrity of Wrigley.
WARD!

by cubbieboy on Feb 14, 2007 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

What's constant?
Wrigley Field has seen many changes over many of years. Notibly the lights. Recently the changes in the bleachers. The moving of the backstop brick wall in closer. If you think about it you can continue to add to that list. The baskets, the evergreens in CF. Point is this change will hopefully blend in like many of the other changes that have occured.
"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make"

by wild bill on Feb 15, 2007 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

What's constant?!?
1)No Jumbotron
2)No cheerleaders
3)No mid-inning interuptions, overstimulations, etc.
4)No mascots
5)No mascots with the name Phanatic.  In fact no use at all of "ph" where "f" used to be.
6)No cheerleaders.

As far as spitting on the history of baseball, Wrigley is a constant of not doing so... or at least notsomuch...

WOODY!!!!

by Sarah Hope on Feb 15, 2007 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

You must
of missed it. They have decided to go with cheerleaders as well. Well sort of. A mascot named Swagger Cubbie.
"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make"

by wild bill on Feb 15, 2007 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

You...
soooooooooo get what I'm saying.
WARD!

by cubbieboy on Feb 15, 2007 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

isn't...
Ronny Woohwooh our mascot?

by Chanman25 on Feb 15, 2007 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Someone ban this guy
"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Mentioning...
... he who shall not be named, is almost a bannable offense.

But I choose to teach.

DON'T MENTION THAT NAME AGAIN!!!!!111!!!1!

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

HAHAHA
Highlight of my day. Lord knows I would never use the name of he who shall not be named.

by ar_hawkins on Feb 15, 2007 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Well said Al,
I agree with you whole heartedly. That guy... I don't wanna even get started. You're right.

by ccd on Feb 15, 2007 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey!
It's CCD! :)

I haven't seen you in a while.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I dunno...
I'm not a fan but there are probably 2 things that I care about more than anything:  The scoreboard and the ivy.  If they don't change those and this is what is required to be a winning team I suppose I could handle it.
MURTON!!!

by tal1286 on Feb 14, 2007 8:41 PM CST reply actions  

Sure..
You could be it in terms of Soriano or the advert. But it wouldn't be the truth. It's not "one or the other". Think about it in terms of Marquis, or maybe Blanco's new contract.

There are always different ways to make money. It didn't have to come to this, but the Cubs will be slowly degrading Wrigley to the point of every other obnoxious ballpark.

by FukudomeAtLarge on Feb 14, 2007 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!!
n/t
I very excite about this upcoming season! Jenqui!

by nextyearcub on Feb 14, 2007 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

Seriously???
No one else? This is one of the funniest things I've read in a LONG time!!!

Hilarious. I will be nice to you for a looooooong time. Like two or three weeks at least or something.

worthless...

by tyger1147 on Feb 14, 2007 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Ty,
Thanks. We shall bury our hatchets, since the NFL season is over.

But fantasy baseball, it's on, my man!

I very excite about this upcoming season! Jenqui!

by nextyearcub on Feb 15, 2007 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Awesome
I got it - I just got here to read it later!
D-LEE!

by airweino on Feb 14, 2007 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

it's a good thing I wasn't drinking
when I read that, cause I would need a new keyboard now. Everytime I think of Under Armour that's the first thing that pops into my head.  
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Feb 15, 2007 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

we must protect this house
you just don't like all the UMD images
keeping mediocrity at bay

by flyball on Feb 15, 2007 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

WE ALSO MUST WIN!!
Look, I don't want any advertising in Wrigley.  But reality is reality.  It like the lights and the bleacher renovation and the skyboxes.  We can either put up with additions and renovations, or put up with a new stadium.  In 21st century life, these are the choices we are forced to deal with.  And given this "pick your poison" choice, I choose the former.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Feb 15, 2007 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Sigh.
I love Wrigley Field, as you all know. In a perfect world, they'd still be playing 81 day games there.

But it's not the 1940's anymore. They don't say how much they're getting, but without a videoboard, they've got to squeeze all the dollars they can out of the space they can.

The alternatives are having a blaring videoboard with commercials every half inning, or stratospheric ticket prices, or pay-per-view TV broadcasts, or all of the above.

Given that, a couple ads on the outfield walls don't bother me that much.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 14, 2007 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

I agree
As much as we love Wrigley because of it's lack of ads, we have to remember that we still are better off then any other park in the world. If you go look at Fenway Park, the "sacred" green monster has gone back to the days before it was green. Now it is a giant billboard, with more ads being added every year.

A few ads here and there isn't going to ruin Wrigley's charm. What does worry me is the future, when they will try to cut out segments of the ivy, like they do for the 355 signs, and put ads on the brick.

by stadiumguru on Feb 14, 2007 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

And that will probably happen someday.
But you know what?  If this extra revenue helps keeps the team competitive, and helps keep Wrigley Field in use, I'm willing to deal with it.  
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Feb 15, 2007 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrigley ads
I am still upset about lights at Wrigley so you know how I must feel about the proposed ads in the outfield.
wccubfan

by wccubfan on Feb 15, 2007 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha
Rotoworld's take:
As if the sight of Jason Marquis on the mound wasn't going to make Cubs fans cringe enough, now they're uglying up the ballpark to pay for him.
PTBNL!

by gravedigger on Feb 14, 2007 9:35 PM CST reply actions  

You
beat me to it - I laughed hard at their take! Hilarious.
D-LEE!

by airweino on Feb 14, 2007 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Good observation
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 8:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Hear me out...
I for one love Wrigley Field and wish it could forever stay in the past, but it just won't happen.  It doesn't really bother me that they will have under armour ads on the doors.  At least this is a product that most all of the players are already wearing and not some casino or telecommunications company.  We all want the Cubs to spend and be competitive, so please don't freak out and get all righteously indignant when they make extra money.  If this helps them pay "Big Z" then so what!?  
I am not crazy about the rotating ad behind home plate, but it has never bothered me to the point that I don't enjoy watching a ball game.  We live in a day in age where marketing literally makes the world go round.  We can't escape it.  If other teams are using it to pay the players then teams that don't will fall behind.  I just hope that the Cubs will keep doing it tastefully and the charm of Wrigley Field will remain.  
As long as the ivy is still there and the scoreboard is still standing tall Wrigley Field will continue being a very special place.  
The dumbest people I know are those who know it all.

by madog93 on Feb 14, 2007 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

Loud, sustained applause.
n/t
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 14, 2007 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm
I understand your argument, but it can be taken too far. There's a definite limit on how much they can change the park before the scoreboard and ivy is overwhelemed.
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

This is such crap.
Damn you Under Armour with your tight yet amazingly breathable shirts!!!!

Seriously though, not cool.  I do not approve.

WOODY!!!!

by Sarah Hope on Feb 14, 2007 9:42 PM CST reply actions  

Changes the look of the stadium
No matter what, it will.

Wrigley's not supposed to be a billboard.

100% opposed to this.

by gjdow on Feb 14, 2007 10:02 PM CST reply actions  

It's already been changed...
... with the rotating sign behind the plate and the ads in the dugouts.

Like I said, in a perfect world I wouldn't want those either. But this ain't a perfect world, and I'd rather have those than the alternatives, noted above.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 14, 2007 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

And I was opposed to that, too
But even so, the rotating billboard is behind home plate, and much less obtrusive.  The UA logo is going to be significantly larger, and in a more "sacred" part of the ballpark.

Then there's the fact that from your seats, you won't be able to see the ad as well as I'll be able to from mine, where (admittedly) I can't see the rotating billboard.  =)

Frankly, I don't think any of it belongs, but it's going to be disgusting every time I see an ad on that timeless wall.

by gjdow on Feb 15, 2007 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Al-
What's going on with the comments?  They seem like they're all tabbed wrong or something.
MURTON!!!

by tal1286 on Feb 14, 2007 10:14 PM CST reply actions  

and now they're not
that was strange.

This happen to anybody else ever?

MURTON!!!

by tal1286 on Feb 14, 2007 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Not me either.
You sure your eyes weren't tabbed wrong temporarily?

;)

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 14, 2007 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

haha
I dunno.

It happens to my browser occasionally.

MURTON!!!

by tal1286 on Feb 15, 2007 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Count our blessings
At least the ads are sports-related.

And it's better than having ads on the bases (remember the "Spiderman 2" debacle?).

And a lot better than playing in a ballpark named after a cell phone company.

AUGIE OJEDA!

by Troop EY on Feb 14, 2007 10:16 PM CST reply actions  

Corporate named park...
"Now, in fairness, Wrigley was and still is a corporate logo." - Cub fan, "FMR Ranger"

by DrCrawdad on Feb 14, 2007 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Well,with all due respect.....
I think FMR Ranger was dead wrong about this.

Back in the 1920's and 30's it was common for ballparks to be named after their owners.  Just off the top of my head the following ballparks of that era were named after their owners:  Baker Bowl, Forbes Field, Crosley Stadium, Ebbets Field, Wrigley Field, and Comiskey Park. That's at least 6 out of 16 (and I think there were only 15 ballparks at the time because the 2 Philadelphia teams shared the same park for at least a couple seasons)ML ballparks named after their owners during this period.

Indeed, even today there are still a few parks named after either current or prior ownership - Jacobs Field, Turner Field, Busch Stadium (I do think your comment is true for this park), and Wrigley Field come to mind.

Now, one could argue that William Wrigley was using the park as a marketing tool, but I've never seen any historical evidence to support this - I'd be interested to see any evidence you have, or know about.  I have seen, though, numerous descriptions of Wrigley's pride in his team, and his ballpark, so I think it's much more reasonable to conclude that Wrigley Field was named after the owner, and not the corporate brand for Wrigley's gum company.

BTW, the Cell's a nice enough ballpark in a generic way, although the ivy on the outfield walls is a nice touch :-)  

by HolyMackeral on Feb 15, 2007 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Alchohol, lights, ads, what's next?
"Now, one could argue that William Wrigley was using the park as a marketing tool, but I've never seen any historical evidence to support this - I'd be interested to see any evidence you have, or know about.  I have seen, though, numerous descriptions of Wrigley's pride in his team, and his ballpark, so I think it's much more reasonable to conclude that Wrigley Field was named after the owner, and not the corporate brand for Wrigley's gum company."

It is a fact that Wrigley is the name of their product, Wrigley's Gum AND their former teams ballpark.  What was their true motivation for changing the name to Wrigley?  

Whether it was their stated intent or not, it is a branded, product name.  I don't know if Charles Comiskey had any "Comiskey" branded products.

"BTW, the Cell's a nice enough ballpark...the ivy on the outfield walls is a nice touch."

They put ivy on the outfield walls of the Cell?  When?

by DrCrawdad on Feb 15, 2007 1:12 AM CST up reply actions  

There is ivy at the Cell.
It's on the outside of that new patio area in CF.

About Wrigley Field, it was named after the owner, not the company, although I suppose people took it as one and the same, since the company was also named after its founder.

For the first few years after the Wrigleys bought the team from Charlie Weeghman and his group, it was called "Cubs Park". It wasn't renamed Wrigley Field until, IIRC, 1927 or 1928.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

literally...
"There is ivy at the Cell.  It's on the outside of that new patio area in CF."

True.  There are vines growing on the outside of the Cell. There are shrubbery and vines on the batters eye.  There is no ivy on the outfield walls at The Cell.  

by DrCrawdad on Feb 15, 2007 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I really don't care
The scoreboard and the ivy are nice, but for the most part, I care about baseball, and nothing else. I'd paint Under Armour ads on my face if it would get the Cubs to stop sucking.

I knew someone in high school that was chubby and always wore a tight Under Armour shirt under his regular school clothing. I called it his "man-girdle".

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 2:21 AM CST reply actions  

i don't mind
ads in wrigley but i'd prefer they be off the more "historic" parts of the field, such as the ivy and scoreboard. the under armor ad is tacky imo--looks like a big ugly zit on the nose of a supermodel.
DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Feb 15, 2007 8:48 AM CST reply actions  

Point taken.
We don't know exactly how it's going to look yet -- the only photos are "renderings".

Yes, I'd rather not have it there. But I'd also rather have that, than the alternatives, which are:

  • a Jumbotron scoreboard blaring ads at us
  • stratospheric increases in ticket prices
  • pay-per-view TV
  • a lower payroll, where you'd all be bitching
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

since i'm guessing
the under armor ads and the backstop ads probably bring in less than 7 mil a year, i would've rather had marquis not signed and not have ads on the playing field. spend smart first, big second and they wouldn't have to do things like this.
DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Feb 15, 2007 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Just another reason to yell...
OH GOD DAMMIT JASON MARQUIS!!!

Al really hitched his horse to a poopy wagon this time around. But from what I've inferred from readings, I suppose this wouldn't be the first time.

worthless...

by tyger1147 on Feb 15, 2007 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Who knows
What might happen. The JumboTron might be next year's announcement from the Tribune - another "subtle" change they say they need to keep the park financially viable. And then what will you all be saying - that it's OK as long as we have Soriano?

Might as well start working on the domed stadium in Schaumburg. Since the Cubs never have won in my lifetime, to me the ballpark is the best thing the team has going. The more they adulterate it, the less interested I am in going.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Does this really...
... hurt your ballpark experience THAT much?

Geez. Ads can be ignored easily enough.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Gee Al
You started this thread by saying "yuck." I'm just agreeing with you.
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Although it's "yuck"...
... it's not going to stop me from going to games or enjoying them.

Nor is it going to make me want to go out and buy UnderArmour stuff, either.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

is part of the reason
you don't care because you won't see the ad since you sit in the bleachers, and never watch home games on TV? i don't like these ads because i think it will be distracting to me when i watch the game on TV. Plus, one of the real vistas of the park is looking out at the outfield with the ivy and scoreboard and the rooftops behind it. now there's an ugly eyesore right in the middle.

if this is the slippery slope they are on, i would rather see them keep the bricks, ivy and scoreboard unadulterated, and put the ads elsewherhe in the stadium until they truly cannot financially compete. when that day comes, start working on the new ballpark. seing ads on the ivy wall is like seeing Santo in a Sox uni or Jordan playing for the wizards--let wrigley go out how its been for decades, don't bastardize it until its a hollow, commercialized shell of its former self.

i know its one ad, and this one isn't THAT horrible, but it IS a trend, and it will continue until one day we look at the park, and it just isn't great anymore.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Feb 15, 2007 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

LOUD SUSTAINED STANDING...
...OVATION THAT NEVER SEEMS TO END.
PTBNL!

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Forget about the Marquis signing then ...
... pretend it pays part of Soriano's contract instead.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

You must have missed...
...the fact that I'm not Soriano's biggest fan either.
PTBNL!

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Geez.
Hope you enjoy the season, Mr. Sunshine.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I will
Because I like baseball.  But I feel it will be another frustrating year.
PTBNL!

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

if the cubs suck...
who will be more upset: the optimist, or the pessimist?
Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I suppose you're right...
... but geez, how depressing to be the pessimist.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Whose a pessimist?
I'm just not optimistic about this year's team.
"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

just
look back at the jumbotron mock-up, you'll feel better about the ads on the doors
keeping mediocrity at bay

by flyball on Feb 15, 2007 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

You're right...
That this isn't all that bad, but I think the concern of many people is that it's now EASIER for management to justify the next step - - i.e. modifying the scoreboard, changing the ivy walls, etc.

While I'm not too concerned about this particular change, it's what's NEXT that worries me...

by ar_hawkins on Feb 15, 2007 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

You're right
And this change is just one in a series of changes that Tribune has made for the worse re. the look of the ballpark since 1981. The beer signs on the scoreboard being the first. (Luckily they're gone. If only the sign behind home plate would face a similar end)
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

The ivy walls...
... are landmarked. They cannot be changed.

Frankly, I think they have done a really nice job with most of the changes (apart from the ad boards). The next step, which ought to include removing the ugly concrete panels on the outside, should also be an improvement.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Paneling
When is that stuff coming off? I thought they were working on it recently.
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

the paneling
is so nasty, and so unwelcoming from the outside

if its gone the next time I get there I'll be a happy woman

keeping mediocrity at bay

by flyball on Feb 15, 2007 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

The panels...
... were supposed to be removed as part of the construction of the new building west of the park. Since that didn't happen this winter, maybe next offseason.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Idle speculation on my part
but I'd be willing to bet that this was in place before the convention or was in the works but they chose to wait till after to announce it cause they knew what would happen.

Same as last year when they changed the centerfield restaurant was turned into a skybox.

Just my belief.

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Feb 15, 2007 9:57 AM CST reply actions  

My take?
Personally, I always thought the doors were ugly, so I don't mind advertising on them per se....

However, Under Armour?

That's where I have a problem.  The Cubs should have gone for a more established, long-lasting company....Budweiser, or Coca-Cola (well, I guess Pepsi is their soft-drink sponsor, but still), or even Wrigley gum, and had them design an advertisement that was "nostalgic" or somehow "retro" so that it would fit with the park.

That would have looked beautiful, been an advertising boon for the Cubs and the sponsor, and appeased fans who like the old-time charm....

Under Armour, however, fails the test.

by Chadnudj on Feb 15, 2007 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

see
I don't have a problem with under armour,I am biased towards the company, but their logo is simple and I don't think will be that bad on the doors, they are already involved in baseball, and are directed towards sports and sports fans

and there is enough beer logos all over the place

keeping mediocrity at bay

by flyball on Feb 15, 2007 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey!
If you have poll ideas, tell me. I couldn't think of one.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Umm...
All I can say about this is "Welcome To the 21st Century." Or, wait a minute -- baseball parks have
sported advertising since the turn of the 20th Century, and that includes Wrigley Field -- before it's 'rebuilding' in the 30's. There was a strip ad on the RF wall (This was  before the  'modern' bleachers were built, and ironically enough, the ad was for the Tribune.) I'll search for the picture later on)  This image, with this huge billboard in RF has been used many times in illustrating Wrigley's history. (I don't belive I'm confusing this with images of the West Side Grounds, but that is a possibility. I'll search later on. But, in any event, a Cubs baseball park has been adorned with advertising, albeit in antiquity)

98 years of futility bothers me infinitely more than a damn sign. This is of little concern.
(MLB's attempted 'sell' of the bases to the Spiderman movie  some time back is a bit more intrusive, and stupid. And FYI, someday the unis will sport ads. That's standard in minorleague sports, and it will eventually make its's way to all Major League Sports. It's just a matter of time.

And some day even Wrigley Field might be replaced.
Could happen. Perhaps either The Trib, or a future owner will not want to pour millions into an ancient infrastructure. (But I don't think this will ever happen == but it's always a possibility.) I love the park. We all love the park. It's great to be able to attend games in a historic spot. But as far as I'm concerned, the team comes first. Change is constant, nothing lasts forever -- there are worse things in this world to worry about.

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Feb 15, 2007 12:51 PM CST reply actions  

I might add
The Cubs are fortunate that the Ivy was 'grandfathered' in, since outfield walls are now supposed to sport some sort of 'protection' for the players, be it padding, or a wire fence that 'gives' somewhat. The brick walls could have been covered with protection years ago, and the ivy ripped off by decree from MLB. The new scoreboards placed on OF walls in new parks are covered with mesh fencing. (However, I don't see how that offers protection like a padded wall would....)

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Feb 15, 2007 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

Sign of the Times
I have no problem with these ad's.  It's just the way things are now and an all white ad for an athletic equipment manufacturer actually won't look that bad.  It's not like we're cutting down the ivy and replacing it with the kind of thing you see in the minor leagues.
However, don't kid yourself about this paying for any salaries.  According ESPN's Darren Ruvel(sp?), this deal is only worth $1MM-$2MM.  That's not even going to cover the minibar tabs that Soriano racks up in his private suites while they're on the road.
Also, we haven't even seen anything yet in terms of adverstising.  My prediction is that we're 5 years away from some teams having large logos on the fronts and backs of uniforms, just like you see with European soccer teams.  It won't start with the "traditional" teams like the Cubbies or Yankees, but don't be surprised to see the Marlins or D-Rays do something like that.  And just like everything, we'll be shocked at how it all looks at first, but by the end of the first season, nobody will care about it anymore.

by awesomedawson on Feb 15, 2007 4:59 PM CST reply actions  

In some ways...
... when it's everywhere, it will have even less impact. People will just tune it out.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't buy it
That ad behind home plate still annoys me three years down the road. Maybe you guys would also be OK with ads on the Sistine Chapel.
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish the ad weren't there.
But frankly, I pay absolutely no attention to it. It's not there for those of us at the park, anyway. It's for the TV viewers.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

And on TV
it is really annoying.  I can't stop watching it, which pisses me off.  

They actually want you to watch the ads, not the game.  Pathetic.

"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

True.
You just have to train yourself better to ignore them.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 15, 2007 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Like I've trained myself...
...to avoid the ads on, uh, certain sites :)
"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

It's hard...
when they have Cubs players on them like the Motorola ones.

I don't even buy most of the products.  I don't notice the ads that much.  I'm too concerned with Z throwing all over the place.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He might hit that sign one day
"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

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