Z offered multi-year deal?

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Feb 15, 2007 4:50 PM CST Comment 80 comments

just saw this in the sun times. He apparently clarified his "ultimatum" comment and said he was offered a 5 year deal in the $90M range. for what it's worth...

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/259194,zamb16.article

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if we sign

Z for 5 and 90 I will give Hendry a kiss on the mouth

"Just say Smith or Jones again, it dont matter, none of this matters"

by ksucubbie on Feb 15, 2007 4:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Somehow I don't think you will...

...you might shake his hand. You might buy him a beer. But somehow I think you'll balk when Hendry puckers up.

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

on the mother

*!%&# mouth

"Just say Smith or Jones again, it dont matter, none of this matters"

by ksucubbie on Feb 15, 2007 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I could see....

... him offering that, and then tacking on two option years. That might do it.

But please, don't kiss Hendry. EEEIUW!!

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al on Feb 15, 2007 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

one little joke

i bet his lips would taste like bearclaw sweetness

ok only dougnut joke from me

"Just say Smith or Jones again, it dont matter, none of this matters"

by ksucubbie on Feb 15, 2007 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The only problem...

... with making one joke is that certain people here don't know when to stop.

Not naming names, just saying.

In any case, if you do wind up kissing him, we insist on photographic proof.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al on Feb 15, 2007 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I would kiss him...

on the cheek. :)

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oh whatever...you would totally make out with him.

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Shhhh!

Hendry's my Prince Charming.

Just don't tell anyone I said that.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

hey sparkles

do you speak spanish at all?

"Just say Smith or Jones again, it dont matter, none of this matters"

by ksucubbie on Feb 15, 2007 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes I do.

Why? Do you?

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I do

I'm minoring in spanish; I've been studying it for about 9 years now overall, and I'm doing a semester in Sevilla, Spain next summer.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

sigh...

...I should learn a new language. But English flubs me up enough as it is.

BTW, Thelonious, what are you studying?

I'm sure you've answered this question before, but I have yet to ask it.

So, apologies if you've tired of answering it.

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

hard to say at this point

I'm 21, but technically still a sophomore, because I took a year off, so although I've declared my major (english) I still haven't gotten to the point where I can no longer switch majors. I prefer doing something like English or philosophy (I'm planning on taking the road much travelled for BCB posters and going to law school, so my undergrad major isn't too important), but I might end up switching to something I'm not really crazy about, like marketing, for a fallback.

I am definitely minoring in spanish, though. I'm pretty close to conversationally fluent at this point, and speaking Spanish makes me eminently more appealing for prospective employers in this day and age.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

it certainly does...

...so the future is open right now? No definitive plans as of yet?

Sounds like you've got something cooking. Or at least setting yourself up well.

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Aside from the fact...

that I change my mind about what I want to do upwards of 3 times per week, I feel good about how I've positioned myself.

Honestly I wish I was better at math. My old man is a ph d chem engineer and I've always respected him a lot for that, and it's always been interesting to me. Upper level math courses like Calc BC, which I took my senior year of high school tend to kick my ass, though.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well good luck to you man...

...you certainly are a smart cookie.

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

I just went and had about 10 Oreos after you said that. It is my professional opinion that cookies are the shit.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

FWIW....

....if you're going to law school, major in something that makes you write a lot, like English. Law school and bar exams are a whole lot of writing, and the more practice you get writing anything the better, no matter how good a writer you might consider yourself now.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Feb 16, 2007 7:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh fun.

Tal vez tu y you podemos hablar en espanol cuando vengas a BCB day. :)

Porque vas a venir, verdad? Tienes que venir. Todos tienen que venir.

I could've gone to Spain for spring break, but I thought it wasn't good enough. I wanted to go to spring training, and now I get to go nowhere.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

My senior year of spanish...

...the teacher really liked me, so she gave me a D.

"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I've always done good...

and I'm always a teacher's pet, so I don't know if any teacher has hated me.

I haven't really hated any teacher I've had. Some are frustrating, but I don't hate them. You should see the way some of my classmates feel about some teachers. It's pretty scary.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I always had good high school teachers

Sometimes, though, I feel like a lot of my college profs are completely out of touch with reality.

"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's because

a lot of them are more concerned with their research than reality.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So true

"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 10:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I went to a small

school, which was fairly well-known for their PT/OT programs. The Modern Languages department was pretty small, and not focused on research, so I got really lucky and had down-to-earth profs who went out to thebar with us. It was great.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Prefiero hablar

en frances. Es posible que puedo hablar contigo en espanol cuando soy a BCB day? Wow! That took about 5 minutes to write. I need to brush up on my Spanish. It's been too long.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oui!

J'aime parler francais. Je peux parler francais avec toi en Jour de BCB. Mon francais n'est pas parfait, mais c'est assez bon.

Sorry for any mistakes. I'm not fluent in French. Yet.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That was great!

I use french every day at work, so it's much better.

I haven't taken Spanish since my Junior year in college, so it's very rusty. And I only made it through third semester, so it's not perfect either.

This'll be fun at BCB day!

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Est-ce que je peux...

vous joindre à parler français?

by carlheartscubs on Feb 16, 2007 8:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Mais, bien sur!

Tout le monde peut parler francais avec nous!

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 16, 2007 9:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

¡Ah, qué lástima!

En mí opinion, España es el mejor país en la Europa occidental. Espero que yo pueda vivir allí en el verano próximo.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Vas a venir a el dia de BCB...

si o no?

Good job. I suck at the accents in every language. If those were required in English, I'm sure I would've never learned the language.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I know where

to put the accents, I just forget how to type them with the keyboard. And I never feel like looking.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Great...

now I'm listening to this gangster song in French on You Tube. We listened to this in class:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mp47q74XIyw

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

when you actually have to type full essays...

en español, like I do in the upper level courses, you start getting incredibly proficient at using accents. I know the alt codes for every accent, upside down punctuation, and tilde etc. off the top of my head.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Espana es bien,

pero pienso que el sur de Francia es mejor...

That being said, I think everyone should get a chance to live in Europe. Everyone except, of course, really stupid Americans.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well done

you may or may not have just consciously written that sentence grammatically correct. A lot of people try to conjugate in the subjunctive after "pienso que", but it's actually supposed to be left indicative. if you say "no pienso que" you use the subjunctive.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't even know these...

tenses in Spanish. It shocks people at school when they come ask me for help, and I'm like I don't know what you're talking about. I usually figure it out though.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Most of the time

I focus on what sounds right. I have a good grasp on the rules, but my profs always encouraged us to worry more about saying what you want rather than worry about the exact tense or word. So, I judge everything by how it sounds. I'm right about 95% of the time.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Do you listen to French music?

Maybe not like the one I posted above, but other ones.

Some of the ones I like are Patrick Bruel and his "Mon Amant de Saint Jean", and I like "J'ai Pas Vingt Ans" from Alizee. I'm sure several people would like some of the lyrics of that last song. :)

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 10:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I love French music

Let me introduce me to my guilty pleasure: http://www.fnac.com. I try to buy a new CD at least twice a year.

I actually like Patrick Bruel's earlier stuff, like his album "Alors Regarde"! There's also a really fun artist out of Quebec named Garou. I don't have him second album yet, but his first one, "Seul", is great. He's got a wonderful duet with Celine Dion (who's French music is much better than her English stuff), and there's quite the diverse types of music. If you get a chance, check out "Adieu" and "Que l'Amour est Violent". And if you enjoy jazz, check out Patricia Kaas' "Carnets de Scene". Tell you what, I'll burn some copies of my French CDs for you for BCB day. I've probably got 10 different albums on CD.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 11:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Olivier Messiaen?

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Haven't heard of him

But Carla Bruni is really good. Her first album was really good.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And since I

used the word good as an adjective in two consecutive sentences, I can tell I'm tired and it's time for bed...

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It was subconscious

actually. The rules of the subjunctive tense are ingrained in my head after 14 years of French and 12 years of German. It also would have been the subjunctive had I changed subjects.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

right you are

Man I love spanish. And let me tell you: there is nothing better than Telemundo. I used to watch Sábado Gigante Internacional en Telemundo todas las semanas.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Telemundo is awesome

and I love Sabado Gigante! Sadly, my cable doesn't carry the channel.

MCDONOUGH!

by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

My favorite Spanish phrase...

Ay de mi! Que Suerte!

It is also the only Spanish phrase I know.

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 16, 2007 2:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't want to see that.

"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey

did you hear the one about how Hendry likes Donuts?

Turns out he likes them quite a bit.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

nice

you really don't have to name names, i'll take that shot as point blanke and direct as it is. Despite the fact no one has generated a single one of those in at least a month to two months.

TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Feb 15, 2007 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You are touchy today

What's wrong?

"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not since Santos got banned...

as I remember it.

ROTHSCHILD!

by Perkins on Feb 16, 2007 1:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank You, Perkins

TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Feb 16, 2007 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Shame, really

I miss Santos, even if he sometimes made too many doughnut jokes.

ROTHSCHILD!

by Perkins on Feb 16, 2007 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

his insight

was invaluable, you're right, it is a shame. for shits and giggles i'm going to look up the last donut/doughnut joke.

TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Feb 16, 2007 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yepp

that last time I made a donut joke was in October, over 4 months ago.

But apparantley my reputation proceeds me in the fact that I have nor the ability to learn from my mistakes or capacity to restrain myself from such immature behavior.

Either way, I'm BCB's stupidass.

TRAMMELL!

by Faith plus 1 on Feb 16, 2007 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

nah

Al's just being a killjoy. If anything, there should be more donut jokes.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 16, 2007 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You want to make those?

Not here. I'd like to at least try to raise the level of dialogue here a little bit above middle school.

Not that we can't have fun, and we do. But that's juvenile.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al on Feb 16, 2007 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

middle schoolers are stupid

My donut jokes can be way more creative than their jokes.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 16, 2007 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I dislike the jokes...

...because I really like Jim Hendry. I don't know why, his moves perplex me. Maybe because of the way he pillages the Pirates and Orioles. And the Karros trade.

"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 16, 2007 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey!

I've got a middle schooler in my house who would quibble with your description!

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al on Feb 16, 2007 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

relax, I was kidding

I said that because I knew you had a son in 6th or 7th grade.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 16, 2007 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

I should have known.

(Sixth grade, FWIW)

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al on Feb 16, 2007 8:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't say that

I'd say cubswin is BCB's resident stupidass, in Mike63's extended absence.

ROTHSCHILD!

by Perkins on Feb 16, 2007 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ugh

You said it.

"Looking for good signs is a good sign of delusion." - Me

by gravedigger on Feb 16, 2007 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

here's an idea

why don't you have a little "lady and the tramp" action with Hendry. You can each start on different ends of an éclair and then meet in the middle.

Unfortunately for you, Hendry is the tramp.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You're dangerously on the edge.

I'd stop now.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al on Feb 15, 2007 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

are you suggesting that Hendry is the lady?

Rudeness will get you nowhere, sir.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Feb 15, 2007 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i thought it was spaghetti...

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I heard...

He only kisses open mouth.

by carlheartscubs on Feb 15, 2007 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

option years

I've always felt this was the way it would go down, if it does. 5 years guaranteed and another 1-2 non-guaranteed ones to protect the club. no way would they guarantee 7 like Zito. Zito is durable. Not nearly as much risk there. Not saying 5 isn't risky. It most certainly is, but it seems obvious Hendry made up his mind a long time ago.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Feb 15, 2007 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

$18M ( $3M more than projected)

probably go to 2011 and then two option years, Z/Cubs get an option at $20M with buyout and $22M Cubs option 2013

Best Harry moment: 'Hey there's Marla without her shorts on!'

by Ivy Walls on Feb 15, 2007 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

5 years is still scary...

...but it goes down much easier than 7/126. I've always been spooked by the years more than the money.

Still not thrilled with Z's comments earlier, he should really just let his agent do his talking for him.

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 4:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

You don't like Z...

right? I wish I could change your opinion, but I probably can't.

Anyway, I knew he meant to say something after the I must go on. That deal is pretty good, so I hope he takes it eventually or something close to that.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What are you talking about?

I love Z.

I'm just a flake is all.

Seriously though.

No, Z is not my favorite Cub in the world, but he is a very good pitcher. And since the Cubs are in a position where they feel they HAVE to sign him lest legions of fans revolt, my hope is that the Cubs don't completely screw themselves over by giving Z too many guaranteed years.

This is already going to probably hurt us long-term, but perhaps the damage can be minimized. And who knows, maybe Carlos lives up to this big contract? I'm certainly hoping he does. And like I said previously, if and when Carlos signs I will be pulling for him as hard as any other Cub that I may or may not like a great deal.

And if he doesn't sign, I will pull for him like crazy until the day he walks.

I just want this team to be good. Now and down the road.

PINIELLA!

by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs