The Top 100 Cubs Of All Time - #4 Ryne Sandberg

Profile co-written by BCB reader TheBeerBaron and Al; the personal references within are TheBeerBaron's
To many baseball fans outside of the Chicago area, a player with a career hitting line of .285/.344/.452 (.796 OPS) would be regarded as slightly above average -- not really a player worthy of enshrinement in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. To fans of the Chicago Cubs, this line represents one of the greatest players to ever grace the friendly confines of Wrigley Field and a modern day baseball legend -- Ryne Sandberg.
The fondest memories of my early childhood predominately revolve around the Cubs' most notable second baseman. Ironically enough, the then not-very-notable January 27, 1982 trade of Ivan DeJesus to the Phillies for Sandberg and Larry Bowa occurred less than six months before my exact date of birth. My own personal affliction for the Chicago Cubs began courtesy of Ryne Sandberg. Nearing my fifth birthday in May of 1987, I became aware of Sandberg simply because of the similarities in our first names -- Ryne and Ryan. Due to this personal revelation of sorts, Ryne Sandberg instantaneously became my childhood hero -- along with several characters from Sesame Street, of course. From that time on, I loyally followed the Chicago Cubs and the career of Sandberg in particular, extensively and thoroughly.
For over a decade, Ryne Sandberg was the face of the Cubs franchise. Number 23 provided a legion of dedicated followers a glimmer of hope that one day soon, their years of futility and suffering would end. His time on the North Side failed to provide a much-coveted World Series title -- or even a National League pennant -- to the Cubs' faithful. However, due in large part to the emergence of "Ryno" during the 1984 season, the Cubs participated in their first post-season series in 39 years.
Ryne Dee Sandberg was born in Spokane, Washington, on September 18, 1959, to a father who was, of all things, a baseball fan with a sense of humor. He named his sons after his favorite players -- Ryne after Ryne Duren, a hard-throwing relief pitcher (and maybe it's a good thing Sandberg's father only knew the short version of Duren's name; his given name was "Rinold"), and Ryne's older brother was named Del, after 1950's era Phillies slugger Del Ennis.
Sandberg was a three-sport star in high school -- basketball, football and baseball -- and had been a highly recruited HS quarterback prospect. He had committed, in fact, to attend Washington State University when the Phillies drafted him in the twentieth round of the 1978 June amateur draft.
As Cubs fans, we can only be forever thankful that Ryne Sandberg passed up what likely, due to his great athletic talent, could have been a successful career as a NFL quarterback, to sign with the Phillies and start riding the minor-league buses in the Pioneer League, for their affiliate in Helena, Montana.
His minor league statistics are far from notable, though he did lead each of his minor leagues in OBA, and showed some speed; he hit twelve triples and stole 32 bases for the Double-A Reading Phillies in 1980.
Just before he turned 22 in September 1981, Sandberg was called up to the Phillies, with Dallas Green being his field manager. That team, the defending world champions, didn't have much space for a skinny shortstop, so his month in their red pinstripes consisted primarily of pinch-running and being a defensive replacement. But on September 27, 1981, ironically enough at Wrigley Field, Sandberg was sent in to play the last five innings of the second game of a doubleheader, a game the Cubs (a horrid team that year) were inexplicably winning 13-0 after five innings. In the eighth inning, with two out and a runner on first, Sandberg hit a little flare into short right field off Mike Krukow, his first major league hit and the only one he hit in a Phillies uniform.
Speaking of which, here's a rare photo of our hero in said uniform:

After the season, Green was hired as Cubs GM, and knew of Sandberg's potential and talent, so he set out to acquire him, without letting on how badly he desired him. Green also wanted Larry Bowa's veteran leadership for a young Cubs team, so he arranged a swap of shortstops, Bowa for Ivan DeJesus, a younger, faster man. But Green insisted on Sandberg as a "throw-in", and wouldn't do the deal without him. Eventually the Phillies agreed.
It was one of the best deals in Cubs history. Bowa gave the Cubs three decent years, and was the starting SS for the 1984 division champs. DeJesus fizzled out, and you all know about Sandberg.
Green had also acquired Bump Wills to play second base, so with 2B and SS covered, Sandberg was installed at third base to begin the 1982 season. He promptly went 1-for-32; other managers would have given up on "the kid", but to Lee Elia's credit, he stuck with him -- in the next nine games he would go 14-for-41 (.341), with his first two major league homers. His 1982 season finished capably, with a .271/.312/.372 line and 32 stolen bases.
In the ensuing offseason the Cubs signed veteran Ron Cey to play third base, and with Wills departing to play in Japan, Sandberg relocated to second base. As a full-time starting second baseman for the Cubs in 1983, Ryno was awarded the first of his nine consecutive Gold Gloves. While his defensive prowess earned him national recognition, Ryno's offensive skills failed to flourish as quickly. From his Major League debut in late 1981 through the 1983 season, Ryne only managed a .265 batting average with an on base percentage (OBP) of 312. The Cubs finished their 1983 season with a 71-91 record--fifth in the National League Eastern Division.
Although that bittersweet season of 1984 occurred merely 2 years after my birth, any Cub fan can tell you that this was the season that the baseball world discovered Ryne Sandberg. In large part that was due to the patient coaching of new manager Jim Frey, who had been a batting coach for many years. He worked with Sandberg in spring training, convincing him that he could hit for more power without sacrificing batting average.
And on June 23, 1984, Ryno's status changed from rising Cubs superstar to baseball legend.
Heading into the bottom half of the ninth inning, the Cubs trailed divisional rival St. Louis by a score of 9-8. Baseball's most dominant closing pitcher at that time, future Hall of Famer Bruce Sutter, was on the mound. Sutter was in the midst of arguably his greatest season. In 1984, Sutter finished the year with a 1.54 ERA and a career best 45 saves. According to broadcaster Bob Costas, the game had ended. As Sandberg approached the plate, Costas prematurely named St. Louis' Willie McGee Player of the Game. Immediately following Costas' praise of the Cardinals' outfielder, Ryno proceeded to extend the game with a solo home run to left field. In heroic fashion, Sandberg extended the game further in the tenth inning with a two-run shot, after Bob Dernier had extended the Cubs' chances with a walk drawn on a 3-2 pitch that might very well have been a strike, once again off Sutter -- finishing the day 5 for 6 with 2 home runs and 7 RBI. From that day forward, June 23, 1984 will forever be remembered by Cubs fans as "The Sandberg Game". A great trivia question, incidentally, is "Who got the game-winning hit in the "Sandberg Game?" It was reserve infielder Dave Owen, who singled with the bases loaded in the bottom of the eleventh. After the game, Cardinals manager Whitey Herzog paid Sandberg the ultimate compliment, terming him "Baby Ruth" and calling him "the greatest player I've ever seen".
Ryno finished the 1984 season posting a line of .314/.367/.520 with 19 home runs, 19 triples. 36 doubles, 84 RBI, 32 stolen bases and 200 hits -- winning the National League's Most Valuable Player award. Although the Cubs lost to the San Diego Padres in the National League Championship Series, Sandberg's season is forever immortalized in Chicago as one of the greatest seasons ever by a Cub.
In 1985, Sandberg's speed and power numbers increased greatly upon the previous years totals. Although the team regressed--finishing in 4th place in the NL East with a 77-84 record--Ryno stole a career best 54 bases (the first Cub to steal fifty or more bases in a season since Frank Chance stole 57 in 1906) and hit 26 home runs. From 1985 through 1988, the Cubs failed to win more than 77 games -- despite the addition of Andre Dawson via free agency from the Montreal Expos. During this stretch, the Cubs changed managers five times. Jim Frey, John Vukovich, Gene Michael, Frank Lucchesi and Don Zimmer all spent time -- albeit brief -- managing on the North Side in the late 1980's.
The 1989 Chicago Cubs team rebounded from a terrible three year stretch, winning the NL East with a record of 93-69. Ryno continued to flourish offensively posting a line of .290/.356/.497 with his first 30 home run season as the Cubs reached the NLCS for the second time in five years, and he finished fourth in MVP voting. Despite an incredible offensive effort by Sandberg in the NLCS--hitting .400/.458/.800 with a home run, 4 RBI and 6 runs scored--the Cubs suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of Will Clark and the San Francisco Giants. This post-season series would be Ryno's final chance to win a World Series.
Sandberg continued to hit well in 1990 -- he had his only forty-homer season (leading the league) and drove in 100 runs (something he would repeat in 1991) and again finished fourth in the MVP balloting, despite the Cubs having yet another losing season.
During spring training in 1993, Sandberg was hit in the hand by a pitch from the Giants' Mike Jackson; the resulting broken bone caused him to miss the first month of the season, and robbed him of much of his power. Though he hit .309, he hit only nine home runs, his lowest total in ten seasons, and he shut it down in mid-September, playing in only 117 games, his fewest in a non-strike season. He was never really the same after this injury.
Sandberg remained the Cubs' second baseman into the 1994 season; off to a poor start (.238/.312/.390), he decided to retire from baseball, a decision that surprised almost everyone. He held a bizarre press conference at which his wife Cindy appeared wearing what was immortalized forever as the "corncob dress":

At the press conference, he was asked why he was retiring at the relatively young age of 34:
From his first season with the Cubs in 1982 through the first 57 games into the 1994 season, Ryno played 1866 games (7378 at bats), hitting .289/.349 with 2132 hits, 245 home runs (including the aforementioned National League best 40 in 1990), 905 RBI, 1179 runs, 325 stolen bases and 349 doubles.
Although Sandberg put forth the notion that his retirement was simply due to his fading desire to play the game and to spend more time with his children, it is hardly a secret that some personal problems factored into his decision. According to many sources, Cindy, his high school sweetheart and wife of fifteen years, was unfaithful. Rumors circulated for years that Cindy's promiscuous behavior played a large role in the decision by management to trade both Dave Martinez and Rafael Palmeiro (Palmeiro's trade was more likely due in large part to his lack of power at the time and the fact that management envisioned Mark Grace as their future first baseman) -- just a couple of the players with whom Cindy Sandberg reportedly maintained an intimate affair. Only ten days after the retirement announcement, Cindy filed for divorce.
In the midst of his retirement, Sandberg met his second -- and current -- wife, Margaret Koehnemann. She and her family were Ryne's neighbors in the Phoenix area, and they married and blended their families, five children in all. Late in the 1995 season, Ryne and Margaret were attending a game at Wrigley Field as guests of the Cubs. Margaret would later report that Ryne had "that look in his eyes" and asked him if he wanted to play again. Knowing that his new bride would approve of his return to the Cubs, on October 31, 1995 Ryne Sandberg had another press conference, announcing that he would return to the Cubs for the 1996 season.
Despite hitting 25 home runs and 92 RBI, Sandberg was clearly past his prime. In 1996, Ryno only posted a .244 batting average -- his lowest average for in a full season. After struggling offensively again in 1997, he decided to retire for good. On September 20, 1997, Ryne Sandberg officially played in his final game at Wrigley Field, another dismal loss in a dismal season. Coincidentally, his long time friend in broadcaster Harry Caray performed his last rendition of "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" that day -- Caray passed away in February 1998.
Broadcaster Joe Morgan has often criticized Sandberg on the air, but in my opinion, Ryne Sandberg is the greatest second baseman to grace the diamond. He won nine consecutive Gold Gloves, appeared in 10 consecutive All-Star Games -- winning the 1990 All Star Game's Home Run Derby at Wrigley Field. He won eight Silver Slugger Awards and still possesses the third-highest career fielding percentage for second basemen (.989). In 2164 games, Ryno accumulated 2,386 hits (8385 at bats) with 403 doubles, 76 triples, 282 home runs, 344 stolen bases, 1318 runs and 1061 RBI. The 344 SB are the most for any Cub in the "modern" era (post-deadball), and fourth on the all-time team list. His other Cub rankings include: third in runs, fourth in hits, fourth in doubles, and fifth in total bases and home runs.
In 2004, his third year of voting eligibility, Sandberg earned proper recognition for his career achievements, as he was inducted as the 17th second baseman in Baseball's Hall of Fame -- receiving 393 votes out of 516 ballots (76.2%).
Ryno's critically acclaimed induction speech provided a revitalizing message for every baseball fan, reminding us why the game we love remains one of our national treasures. In an age consumed with astronomical power numbers, many times we fail to realize the fundamental aspects of the game. Sandberg's speech reminded us that laying a perfect sacrifice bunt or turning a simple double play are equally as important as the home run. In a veiled swipe at the players accused of bulking up with steroids, Sandberg said in his induction speech:
This speech reminds every single one of us that while at times fans are lost in the "glitz and glamour" of the modern era's power surge, we should never forget the way the game was supposed to be played -- the way Ryne Sandberg played it.
This past offseason has perhaps opened a new chapter in Sandberg's relationship with the Cubs. After several years in retirement in Arizona, Sandberg threw his hat in the ring to become the Cubs' new manager. GM Jim Hendry preferred the experienced Lou Piniella, but offered Sandberg a managerial slot in the Cubs' farm system, telling him that after some experience, he could work his way up toward a major league coaching or managing job. Sandberg accepted and in 2007, at age 47, will be the manager of the low-A Peoria Chiefs this summer, once again riding the buses in the minor leagues. Given his quiet determination, it would not at all be a surprise to see Ryne Sandberg in a Cubs uniform again, someday managing the club at Wrigley Field.
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Heh guess he wasn't #1...
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 8:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
thanks
by flyball on Feb 15, 2007 9:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Larry Himes
by Clark Addison on Feb 15, 2007 9:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
As anyone who reads BCB probably knows, I was at that game (so was Al) and it was (besides my wedding and having my kids born) the greatest day of my life. I still have my ticket stub. The Dave Owen single was anti-climactic. We knew the Cubs would win. (Remember, they were down 7-0 early in that game)
I was also at the Sept. 27, 1981 doubleheader in which Sandberg got his first hit, but I have no memory of him playing that day.
by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 9:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That one's my fault.
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look now.
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Still not sure if it captures the importance of that day. Realize that the Cubs had lost 6 of 8 games leading up to June 23, and that they had fallen behind 7-0 after two innings. It appeared their regular "June swoon" was taking place. Sandberg almost single-handedly brought the Cubs back from the brink with his performance in that game. They went on to win 13 of their next 18 games.
by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The next day...
That series convinced a lot of people that the '84 Cubs were for real.
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was there also..
http://ignarski.tripod.com/june2384.html
Kasey
by kaseyi on Feb 15, 2007 9:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This puts
That's a neagative, Ghost Rider.
by nextyearcub on Feb 15, 2007 9:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I must say...
Sandberg is my favorite player, I've said it at least 19 times in this thread. But I'd rank Sosa higher.
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ack!
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet you can't wait for that.
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No way
by nextyearcub on Feb 15, 2007 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Morgan
by mrcubsfan on Feb 15, 2007 9:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
re: Morgan
Sandberg was better with the glove, but Morgan was far better at the plate. Then there's the consecutive MVPs and the whole Big Red Machine vs. the Little Blue Bicycle.
In my eyes, Sandberg ranks about fifth all-time among 2B. That said, here I'd have him ahead of Anson at least, and perhaps #1.
by Tracy on Feb 15, 2007 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hornsby was the best 2nd Baseman...
by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Feb 15, 2007 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I should have read further...
by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Feb 15, 2007 6:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be the downer
His lifetime OPS+ is 132 while Sandberg's is 114. Morgan's 1972 to 1976 was as good as any 2nd baseman stretch probably going back to Rogers Hornsby. In 1976, his OPS+ was 187. Morgan also has two MVP's.
Like Mike Schmidt, Morgan the person may be a jerk but you can't argue with him as a player.
by rlpete on Feb 15, 2007 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
But Sandberg is still my favorite.
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Morgan...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 15, 2007 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sandberg is better
I too HATE Joe Morgan, so I am a bit biased.
by Ihatethecards on Feb 15, 2007 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to defend Morgan but
Morgan (career): 689 SB/162 CS
Sandberg (career): 344 SB/107 CS
Morgan (career): 96 triples
Sandberg (career): 76 triples
Morgan (season highs): 67 SB's, 12 triples
Sandberg (season highs): 54 SB's, 19 triples
Yes, Morgan is way too full of himself and the Big Red Machine but if you saw him play, he was better than Sandberg.
by rlpete on Feb 15, 2007 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Morgan
by Tracy on Feb 15, 2007 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so
by ksucubbie on Feb 15, 2007 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It started...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 15, 2007 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it started
by rlpete on Feb 15, 2007 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you!
Come to think of it, "Corn Cob Dresses" makes a good name for a fantasy team. . . .
by cubbiejulie on Feb 15, 2007 9:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
There you go!
You never knew this before?
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't either
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Effortlessly
by wild bill on Feb 15, 2007 9:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like it Al.....
by TheBeerBaron on Feb 15, 2007 9:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol....thanks......
by TheBeerBaron on Feb 15, 2007 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coincidence?
by jeffinmilwaukee on Feb 16, 2007 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very nicely done
At the time Sandberg was was favorite Cub and it was great to watch that team play.
by cubbieboy on Feb 15, 2007 10:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was two...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 15, 2007 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two.
Post the pic!
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, post it....
Al, feeling a bit.....aged? ;)
by cubbieboy on Feb 15, 2007 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't go there...
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I might...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 15, 2007 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Morgan's the greatest 2B ever?
On the all-time 2B list, I'd place Morgan #4 and Sandberg #6.
Hornsby 175 OPS+/4772 TBs/1038 Ws/135 SBs
Collins 141/4268/1499/744
Lajoie 150/4474/516/380
Morgan 132/3962/1865/689
Gehringer 124/4257/1186/372
Ryno 114/3787/761/344
Doerr 115/3270/809/54
Hornsby is 5th all-time in OPS+, behind Ruth (207), Williams (190), Bonds (182), and Gehrig (179), just ahead of Mantle (172) and Pujols (171). Even if he had only an average glove, there's no way any of these guys take the #1 2B spot from the Rajah.
by bleacher on Feb 15, 2007 10:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was getting...
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll still take Morgan
Morgan wasn't as good a hitter (who was?), but was a better fielder and leader of one of the best teams ever.
Also, there's the whole issue of Hornsby, et al, playing in a segregated league.
by Tracy on Feb 15, 2007 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Morgan vs Hornsby
As for the glove, Hornsby might have been "indifferent," but his career fielding pct = league average (actually, slightly above, at 2B), although his range was below league average. However, he was a good enough fielder to play 350+ games at SS and 190+ more at 3B. Morgan is above-average in both fielding pct and range. But that can't possibly make up the difference between an OPS+ of 175 vs 132. His stolen bases probably cut into that more than the fielding, but a 43 pt difference in career OPS+ is enormous.
By the way, Ryno's fielding range was 5.09 vs L'il Joe's 5.03--and the league average was a lot higher during Morgan's career, so Ryno is +.66 vs the league ave, while Joe is +.34, a significant difference. Ryno's fielding pct was .989 (+.08 vs league); Morgan's was .981 (+.04 ).
As for the antimosity of Morgan toward Ryno, Morgan didn't attend Ryno's HoF ceremony--and if you know Morgan, that's the only one he's missed. He's never said anything good about Ryno, although I personally have never heard him say anything bad. But I believe he was po'd about Ryno's comeback, which resulted in Ryno taking down L'il Joe 2B HR record.
by bleacher on Feb 15, 2007 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
1983 Topps Sandberg card
by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 10:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I chose the rookie card...
Not once. He played two games at SS as a Cub, and one at DH in the first year of interleague play.
BTW, did you like the pic of him in a Philly uniform?
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I also have...
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies
by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dependable
by KedzieKid on Feb 15, 2007 10:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No way should Ryno be below Shammy Soso
by LT on Feb 15, 2007 10:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Green on Sandberg in '82
I felt I got the message that I was right about the trade: it wasn't really about Bowa for DeJesus, which was a relief in those forlorn days of early '82.
by bleacher on Feb 15, 2007 10:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sandberg
DmL
by dmlichte on Feb 15, 2007 10:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot he retired in '97
I wonder if he regrets having retired after the '97 season, before the Summer of '98. Anyone know?
by tyger1147 on Feb 15, 2007 10:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good question
by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryno
Even my friends in my non sports net groups know about him.
We write group stories and one time we included vegetable themed dress as an element everyone had to include.
I actually babysat for Cindy and Ryne back in the mid 80s a few times. My friend was their primary sitter and I filled in a few times. She was a piece of work. But he was nice.
I've met Margaret. She is terrific. And people that know Ryne well said she has done him a world of good.
I saw it the first time I saw them together.
I think January 27th and September 18th should be Chicago holidays.
We named our new dog Wrigley. We thought of naming him Sandberg but the kids voted for Wrigley.
by kerrysotherwife on Feb 15, 2007 11:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
June 23, 1984
But we were at that game because of that.
I insisted on staying until the end. Have never left a seemingly hopeless game since.
It turns out my husband was there about 20 feet from us. We didn't know each other yet.
Speaking of birthdays. My 10th anniversary and 40th birthday are coming up in 2008. Plans for a party in that thing in the bleachers are starting. Will post info next spring.
by kerrysotherwife on Feb 15, 2007 11:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good story
I got back on my bike and made the 5-minute ride to Wrigley. My seat was an upper-deck box, near home plate, and I sat next to the guy who gave me the ticket. But I had my eyes on an empty seat down below, in the front row of the lower deck behind the Cub's on-deck circle. I eyed that seat inning after inning, and no one took it. So in the 8th, I walked down there, right past security (which wasn't as impossible to breach back then) and claimed the seat as my own. So I had the perfect vantage point from which to watch Sandberg's heroics.
When I think back to that day, it's almost as if fate had chosen me to witness the game. First, being handed a ticket out of nowhere. Second, having that seat just waiting for me in the front row. I have a video of Sandberg's second homer that day, and you can see me in the front row standing up to watch the flight of the ball. I initially thought it was going to be caught, but I'm not sure why - it was a no-doubter.
by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sosa over Sandberg? No way.
I think what will be telling is if Sosa makes it to the HOF, how many Cubs fans will show up for his induction? Cooperstown was overrun with Cubs fans for the Sandberg induction. I doubt the same will be true for Sosa, if he gets there at all.
by Ross on Feb 15, 2007 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good article, but . . .
As the season went on, Sandberg proved to be great defensively, but Wills wasn't. In fact, Lee Elia blasted his defense repeatedly, and by August it was quite clear that Wills wasn't going to be around in '83. Looking to fill that role, they moved Sandberg there in September -- also knowing that their top prospect, Pat Tabler, was playing 3B and tearing up the PCL. Sandberg finished the season at 2B, which was intended to be a permanent move.
As for 3B, their first priority was to sign Steve Garvey to play 1B, but when he went to the Padres, they acquired Cey instead. A few months later, when they accidentally left Fergie Jenkins unprotected in the Free Agent Compensation Draft, they worked out a deal with the White Sox to give them Tabler, Scott Fletcher, and Randy Martz for Steve Trout and Warren Brusstar -- a deal that helped both clubs.
Also, for all the legend about Sandberg being a "throw-in" in the Bowa trade, it really should be emphasized that he was the essential element of the deal. Even the news stories at the time emphsized that the deal revolved around Sandberg, not Bowa.
by deJesus Freak on Feb 15, 2007 12:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The "throw-in" part...
But you are right. Green wanted Sandberg badly and wouldn't have made the deal without him.
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually . . .
by deJesus Freak on Feb 15, 2007 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it comes down to...
Sure, the deal was really for Sandberg, and it was stated explicitly that he was a key element in the deal, but Larry Bowa was famous and coming off a WS victory just two seasons before. I can see how people at the time paid more attention to Bowa instead of Sandberg as the key pick-up, and Sandberg's fame sort of crept up slowly in 82-83 until it was clear who the real star was.
by dvdmgsr on Feb 15, 2007 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Over the years, it's gone down in history as if Bowa was the centerpiece and that Sandberg was not only just a "throw-in," but a completely unknown kid that Green stole out from under the Phillies nose. It wasn't that way at all -- he was one of their top prospects at the time.
by deJesus Freak on Feb 15, 2007 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I also remember
by kerrysotherwife on Feb 15, 2007 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My all-time favorite Cub.
by ctcoff99 on Feb 15, 2007 12:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ryno has always been my favorite
Back in 1985, when my brother and I moved to a new neighborhood, we started playing wiffle ball with the other kids. One older boy was a die-hard Cardinal fan (as many are here) and he wanted to play Cardinals vs. Cubs all the time. All the kids had names of Cardinal or Cub players. I got to play on the Cub team. This older boy told me "well, I guess you can be Ryne Sandberg. He's pretty good." I knew absolutely zero at the time about him, so I looked up some info on this guy he named me after. Wow. Pretty good did not even begin to describe it. But, coming from a Cardinal fan, it's not surprising. To make a long story short, so began my allegiance to the Cubs, and my following of Ryno. This also has brewed a long-standing argument with my brother, the Cardinal fanatic. But even he was pulling for Ryno to get into the Hall of Fame.
(The next best thing will be to see Ron Santo in there with Ryno, but that's another story.)
My husband and I will be welcoming our second son in April, and we have already decided to name him Ryan. I wanted to name him Ryne, but we have a friend who named his son Ryne (after Ryno too) and no one ever pronounces or spells his name right, so we decided on Ryan. Now all we have to choose is a middle name! :)
by southernilcubfan on Feb 15, 2007 12:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
progs's favorite Cub too...
by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 1:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
hmm...
If we're done being friends let me know.
by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
by flyball on Feb 15, 2007 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps it is that
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm...
Do we need to fight or something?
by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
Also, I hear he is managing this year.
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we're done for awhile dude...
by theprognosticator on Feb 15, 2007 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First Julie, now you
Anyway, stop trying to hijack the Sandberg thread. This was a good profile.
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My Sandberg story
by NL doormat on Feb 15, 2007 1:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mistake in Article re: Final Game!
It was his 2-3, RBI-double-off-Schilling, pulled-for-pinch-runner-in-the-5th-for-standing-ovation, 11-3 Cubs Win performance on Sunday, 9/21/97!
by ClosingTime on Feb 15, 2007 2:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the clarification...
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Question
by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC...
by Al on Feb 15, 2007 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I too, was there for both of these games
Little did we know that when we sang with Harry at the 7th inning stretch on Sunday, that it was the last time we would do that, as Harry died the next February.
by Ihatethecards on Feb 16, 2007 8:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sandberg Game
by alwaysacub on Feb 15, 2007 3:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Costas
Costas' call of Sandberg's second homer was along the lines of, "Do you believe it? It's gone!" At the end of the game he says, "Best one I've seen in years." He did a great job.
And Harry's call of the second homer was: "He did it again! He did it again! The game is tied! The game is tied! Holy Cow!"
You can hear Lou Boudreau in the background yelling "Whoa!," and then saying "How about that?"
by danimal15 on Feb 15, 2007 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
There was nothing he didn't do well. He hit for average, hit with power, ran the bases like a gazelle and fielded his position better than anyone. Just watching him run the bases in his prime was a treat.
Plus, Ryno did things the right way. Although he played on mostly bad teams (with the exception of '84 and '89, of course), he simply went about his business. He never complained, just went to the ballpark every day and played baseball. That's why, to me, he's the ultimate baseball player. Period.
It's a shame he retired when he did, but he never should have come out of retirement either. His Hall of Fame induction was more than worthy. And, as far as Joe Morgan goes, he couldn't hold Ryno's jock strap.
by rynofan23 on Feb 15, 2007 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.....
by TheBeerBaron on Feb 15, 2007 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have attended
The Morgan fued always burned me. I always felt that Morgan thought that Sandberg was overrated, Ryno never dives for balls, average numbers, so on and so on. With Sandberg it was never about the other player, it was the game itself, and what I can do to help the Cubs win. Morgan was a great player, great team player, but an self absorbed individual that cared about "his" legacy.
What a shame that Ryno (1) got hit by Jackson, and (2) had apparently a horrible first wife. If it is true about Martinez and Palmerio running "The Corn Cob woman", no wonder Ryno left the game early. Also the wonderful Larry Himes who had a part in Ryno's departure and the free agent mess with Maddux.
Sandberg was great to watch. I would go to Philly everytime the Cubs were in town, and the bitterness the old time Philly fans had towards "giving" the Cubs, 1st Jenkins and 2nd Sandberg was hilarious.
I too disagree with Sosa being ahead of Sandberg. Sosa has the numbers, however Sandberg had the belly and heart.
Here is hoping one day Ryno is filling out the lineup card in Wrigley.
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Feb 15, 2007 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I fondly recall...
That being said, I loved him at third and he was a pretty good offensive player.
by Blood Brother on Feb 15, 2007 4:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You don't have to dive if you're already there.
Sandberg was always in position, and he had a ridiculous first step.
You can't have multiple 300 put-out, 500 assist, or 100 double-play seasons if you're a slow middle infielder.
by ClosingTime on Feb 15, 2007 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
umm
by ksucubbie on Feb 15, 2007 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
overrated as a second-baseman
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Feb 15, 2007 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh, my first true love!
To this day, I'm hard-pressed to think of another Cubs player of my generation who exuded such talent and class. I wept when he retired the first time; I rejoiced when he returned. I made the bookstore her in Michigan special-order his book, and I wore the binding off the first copy I bought, it was so often read.
I taped the Hall of Fame ceremonies and cheered him in my living room in admiration for his speech.
I secretly hoped he would be #1, but that is my own opinion. For me, Ryne Sandberg is the living symbol of baseball and the Cubs, and I continue to be a fan of this team in the hopes that I will see someone of his class and caliber come through the town of Chicago again one day.
by secdelahc on Feb 15, 2007 7:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ryno.....
by deadcatbounce on Feb 15, 2007 7:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
(shrugs)
Seemed appropriate.
by cubbiejulie on Feb 15, 2007 8:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That....
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 15, 2007 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So awesome
by gravedigger on Feb 15, 2007 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually haven't read all of Moneyball...
I'm almost done though. I just never really thought about reading baseball books until I came to BCB where everyone talks about all these baseball books.
It's even more pathetic when I realize I read a ton of Gossip Girl books and A-List books(although I really like A-List).
I love the book. I get so happy every time I read more of it.
by sparkles721 on Feb 15, 2007 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryno...
His HOF speech was everything I expected, hoped, and knew he'd do. Too often professional athletes forget how much spotlight is placed on them; the lose their sense of humility and grace, but in Ryno's case that simply wasn't to be. I only wish he'd gotten a chance at a World Series, a chance to shine on the national stage.
I still can't believe Sosa is being ranked higher than Sandberg.
by cubby23 on Feb 15, 2007 11:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sandberg
Anyhow, part of his radio appearance was to push a new foundation he has started: http://rynokidscare.org/
DmL
by dmlichte on Feb 16, 2007 12:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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