Let's Earn Jacque Jones' Respect
OK, I have something I have to get off my chest now that Spring Training is upon us, and Opening Day will be here before we know it. This is important, because it concerns all of us as members of Cubs Nation, the greatest and most loyal fans in sports history. And it concerns our right fielder, assuming he breaks camp with the Cubs in 2007. I don't know how you all feel about this, but I feel very bad about the way Jacque Jones was treated in Chicago last year. We treated him like garbage, there is simply no other way to describe it. And when you hear him talk (you don't even have to HEAR him, you can't miss his tone even if you're reading a quote from him), he does not like us. He does not consider us to be good fans. And how can you blame him? We did nothing to earn his respect or admiration. And that bothers me.
It bothers me because we, as Cubs fans, are better than that. We're not Philadelphia fans. All I know is, last year, in spite of all he endured, Jacque hit .285 with 27 HR, 81 RBI, and was one base hit away from a Slugging Pct. of .500. In short, he did exactly what he was brought here to do, at least offensively. I know his defense was not good. His baserunning was horrendous. And you know what? He knows that too. The guy is a pro. Booing a guy is one thing. But racial slurs, throwing a ball out of the bleachers and almost hitting the guy, there is no excuse for this kind of stuff. They may act like that other places, but we don't act like that in Chicago, at least on the North Side. I might be preaching to the choir here, and I hope I am, but this stuff has to stop this year. Let's give this guy a break, and accept him as one of our guys, which we should have done from the start.
I truly hope that Jacque Jones is in the Cubs' Opening Day lineup. When he trots out to right field for the first time, and when he comes to the plate for his first at-bat, we owe him a standing ovation, if for no other reason than as an apology for last year. Sometimes it sucks to look yourself in the mirror and admit that you screwed up. Last year, we screwed up, and we need to make it right this year.
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Exactly
by roach on Feb 20, 2007 2:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree as well
These feelings do exist in today's society and it's also wrong not to recognize that sometimes these these things happen. Those of us on the good side need to drown out the idiots.
by cubbieboy on Feb 20, 2007 2:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
hear, hear!
others:
-the treatment of Bartman when anyone in his position would have done the same.
-the beer garden uninformed crowd
-racism directed at Dusty or LaTroy Hawkins
Jones has every right to be pissed at the fans, and want out of chicago. While he is wrong to generalize, if I (as a jew) had to hear antisemitic slurs or suffer balls thrown at my head, I probably would have reacted far more angrily than Jones has. I think he should be commended for not absolutely demanding a trade (although he may have, but he hasn't let this air in the media). We haven't treated him as a welcome player at all, and he's clearly made every attempt to hold his tongue, and try to put forth his best effort.
All hail Jones. I'm sure he'll drive us crazy with myriad baserunning/fielding mistakes, but right now the price is right, and we're relying, in part, on his bat this year.
by Thelonious on Feb 20, 2007 3:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
On a side note
by Laven on Feb 20, 2007 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say this about Jones.
That same article (and I cannot remember now where I saw this) also said that the throwing problems may have stemmed from a shoulder problem that Jones didn't do anything about. Supposedly the shoulder has healed. We'll see.
I'm not a big fan of Jones and I did say the signing was dumb when it happened. However: NOW, given the exploding marketplace, Jones' contract seems cheap, and he did exactly as he could have been expected to last year. In theory, with a healthy Lee, Ramirez, Soriano and Barrett, Jones is the fifth-best hitter on the team. That's just about where someone like Jones should be, on a good team.
by Al on Feb 20, 2007 4:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It was announced in Oct. & an admonishment
As for his shoulder, here is a link from October
From my understanding, he has been working out, largely with Mark Prior and his trainer, this offseason on strengthening his shoulder. To say that he "did nothing about it" is simply silly. We have seen the pitfalls that come with shoulder surgery with many many pitchers, so for an OF to opt against surgery is absolutely commonsense.
Of course Jones didn't advertise this during last season, that would only have made things worse. So, even more, think how that was tearing him up. Fans ripping him a new one every day, throwing beer, baseballs, and epithets his way at every chance, and he had to endure it.
I hate to say it, but I largely blame the influence of blogs such as this for JJ's poor treatment. I honestly believe that this medium for all its wonderful virtue, also has the potential to stir up a witchhunt. From the day Jones was signed he was persona non grata to Cub fans, and that simply was not fair.
I am not trying to be overly critical of blogs, including this one. They are a great way for folks to share thoughts and information, the ultimate power in our society. But I am also a hute supporter of the free press, and they have done some real doozies in their history as well (the folks who brought us the Spanish American War for one). I just think that we as bloggers need to be more careful and tempered in what we say. What we do has implications. We should be happy about that, but also view it as a responsibility.
by WGNstatic on Feb 20, 2007 7:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Al can speak for himself
I don't think that Al was suggesting he didn't work on whatever was wrong during the offseason.
by Scott on Feb 20, 2007 8:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
If Jones has an offensive season like 2006, and he eliminates, or at least reduces, his defensive troubles and baserunning mishaps, he will be a useful player.
by Al on Feb 20, 2007 8:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What could he do?
Does make you wonder why they didn't at least experiment with him at 1B, but I don't blame Jones for that at all.
by WGNstatic on Feb 20, 2007 8:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
blame blogs?
- Baseball blogs don't make people racist. Find me a single racist Cubs blog and I'll show you a blog with 5 hits a day.
- Yes, many blogs have a negative tone towards certain individuals, but I would guess that active blog readers make up less than 2% of the ballpark at any given time. Of the 40,000 in attendance, how many read blogs? 500? 1000? This site, probably the most popular one out there, might have a few thousand regular readers per day. And most of them are online and contributing to the game thread, so it's not like we're all there and booing. We're the diehards, folks. The diehards with internet access and free time. Most Cubs fans I know don't read blogs. Even the diehards.
I don't boo Jones at the ballpark, though, (nor do I send him racist threats or fire baseballs at his head.) I only boo when a) someone's not giving his best, or b) disrespecting fans or the game (like Todd Hundley). Jones gives his best, so I save my booing for when I'm home in front of the TV and he throws a 16-bouncer into home plate.
by MikeJ on Feb 20, 2007 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blogs
IMO, there are personal attacks on players on blogs such as this, and further, I believe that such villification eeks out and makes it ok to hate the man. Unfortunately, for some that leaves only a small step to hurling baseballs and racial epithets at him.
Again, I am not anti-blog. But, if a blog such as this has any power, which most of us would hope it does, then that power can be both good and bad, and thus, with that power comes responsibility, There have been plenty of examples of irrational anger/hatred directed towards Jones, and that to me is irresponsible.
by WGNstatic on Feb 20, 2007 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 20, 2007 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
JJ Fan Club
Let me be the first to sign up for the JJ Fan Club. He's not my favorite player, but I think he deserves the biggest standing ovation during the home opener. I think he has an amazingly positive attitude given the circumstances. He is the type of guy who could really thrive with some positive support. I'd be thrilled with a repeat of last years numbers.
Unfortunately, us Cub fans like new scapegoats. We gave Moises a tough time his first year (although his crappy attitude never improved, we grew to like him). D-Lee even suffered through some smatterings of boos his first year. This year, it sounds like it'll be Marquis.
by Ghost of Fred Merkle on Feb 20, 2007 7:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
IDEA!!
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 20, 2007 7:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great post
I think his slow start really snow-balled a lot of negative feelings and hopefully everyone in the RF bleachers can make him feel welcomed this year
by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 20, 2007 7:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The one thing about
Hell if we could get 25HRs, 80 RBI's and .285ave, with this lineup, far better than last year, come on aboard.
I like JJ, and racist comments is BS no matter who you are directing them to.
Let all Cubs have a good year.
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Feb 20, 2007 8:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very true
That said, I think the treatment he received from the boobirds at Wrigley last summer was the most embarrassed I've ever been as a Cubs fan. We discussed that here at BCB and wondered wtf was wrong with our fellow fans, especially those in the bleachers.
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 8:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
are you guys kidding?
I hope he is gone from this team by opening day. Cliff Floyd would be a better option offensively and defensively in right field and that would do multiple good things for this team.
- If we package Jones and Ohman we will get a good return on prospects.
- Matt Murton is assured of 550 at bats. THIS IS HUGE.
- We will not have to cringe at the thought of Jones in the two-hole as Lou has talked about. I cant think of a much worse two-hole hitter other than Neifi Perez.
- If Floyd gets hurt Pie can come up in his place.
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 8:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 20, 2007 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Floyd...
Are you NUTS???
I like the Floyd signing. But the man has not played RF in quite a while, and since then has gotten more and more brittle. Floyd is a good 4th OF/platoon guy (in LF) at best, and you want him over JOnes in RF?!? Have you bothered to look at their numbers? Or have you simply read abunch of blather about Jones sucking?
If Jones and Ohman are going to bring this bevvy of prospects, don't you think that Hendry would have made the deal earlier!
As for Pie. I like him, I think he could be good to great. But the idea of rushing him along so that you can simply get rid of Jones is in a word, moronic. We saw what happened to our last 5-tool CF when rushed to the big leagues. I am fine with using prospects as in insurance policy against injury, but with Jones in RF, that is not a quesiton of if he will get hurt, but when.
by WGNstatic on Feb 20, 2007 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh my goodness
Where the hell do you come off comparing him to Corey? Just because their batting styles are similar and theyre left-handed? The situations resemble each other in no other ways than that.
Corey had never shown a mastery of one level of baseball other than low A-ball. He sucked in Double A, he sucked in Triple A--we brought him up. Pie has shown the ability to play well and adjust to each and every league and promotion he has had. Give him two months at Triple A and he'll be ready for the big leagues. I absolutely hate it when people make this comparison, it is ridiculous.
Where did I mention a "bevy" of prospects? If you traded both Jones and Ohman chances are you could get a couple decent prospects, I dont think there is an argument from most here either.
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 20, 2007 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes me wonder..............
After all, he ran the bases well and fielded various positions without fail. Yes, he was a bum at the plate, but he was only being paid half of what Jones is making.
So in hindsight, why did we rag Neif!???
Time for love - if not a possible return - of Neif!!!!
Geez...........this is baseball and if Jones needs therapy because he took abuse for not doing his job, he's certainly got enough money to cover the fees.
by tville on Feb 20, 2007 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He did...
I like what the original poster said: We are not Philadelphians, c'mon people.
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And we're not..............
I was at Wrigley on Opening Day in 1987 and listened to Andre Dawson get booed because he struck out. Obviously he did some things quickly to turn the minds of the fans.
Meanwhile Jones is whining about a trade (his recent disclaimer notwithstanding) and dancing with the race card.
Instead of kissing Jones, we should be wanting him to perform as expected. Is it too much to ask for a ML player to catch a fly ball? Am I out of bounds for thinking a ML runner should know how to take an extra base?
We're not on a sandlot, c'mon people........
by tville on Feb 20, 2007 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody said anything about...
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not so much..
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 20, 2007 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i wasnt harrassing him
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He played well enough...
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Aramis and Pierre deserved the boo-birds more than JJ. I'm not a big JJ fan, but he did what he was signed to do. Was the alternative (Preston Wilson) much better??? Well, let me restate that: Was Preston Wilson much better against anybody other than the cubs?
Like so many said, it was just a bad year and everyone was looking to take out frustrations.
by Ghost of Fred Merkle on Feb 20, 2007 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
aramis
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Come now...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 20, 2007 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
give me a break
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when i say hurting himself
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you watch Aramis last year....
by Ghost of Fred Merkle on Feb 20, 2007 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
did you actually read my post?
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
um no
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coming in...
I'm sorry JJ isn't the world's best baseball player. But he isn't the worst, either. Just as he lies somewhere in between, so should the level of booing and cheering he should get.
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two things
- We do know whether Floyd is healthy or not. He isn't 100% right now. He has said so. This is part of the reason it took him so long to sign. Hendry wanted to see the progress of recovery. You can look it up. It's all on cubs.com.
- Hendry will not trade Jones/Ohman for prospects unless they suck or are injured. Count it. For his job security's sake, it's stupid. This team must win now for Hendry to keep his job. Getting rid of your 2nd/3rd most productive outfielder and your second best left-handed reliever for guys that won't help your team now, and Hendry's livelihood, is stupid.
by tyger1147 on Feb 20, 2007 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent post ... !
by Littlerock Rynofan on Feb 20, 2007 8:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I whole heartedly agree
by WGNstatic on Feb 20, 2007 8:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
you mean
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 9:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you have a trash can in your house.....
by ctcoff99 on Feb 20, 2007 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
endzone celebrations?
As for the Cubs being better off without him, we will just have do disagree on that. If the Cubs are going to try to win this year, I simply can't imagine trusting Floyd in RF, and Pie is simply not ready! The guy struggled at AAA last year and was horrible in winter ball. I am as big a believer in Pie as anyone, but he is a young raw talent, and shouldn't be rushed, that will not do anybody any good.
by WGNstatic on Feb 20, 2007 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok dude
"Pie struggled at Triple A"
How is that? He struggled at first, sure, like any 21-year-old would on their first taste of Triple A. But second half stats are the ones worth trusting when looking at a players first year in Triple A and in the second half Pie did great, leading to good overall numbers in the league.
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Soooo..
While I disagree (sort of) with a lot of your other comments: mainly that I think Jones will be traded, but not until June when they are comfortable that a 5-way platoon between Theriot, DeRosa, Floyd, Murton and Pie can be effective at 2B and RF and LF. That's my hope anyway. My guess is that Jones, along with others, are traded for a hitting SS or a closer sometime around the All-Star game. Again, not for prospects.
by tyger1147 on Feb 20, 2007 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well thats what spring training is for
I hope what you suggest in your post happen...curious as to what you disagree with about my other posts.
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scenarios...
No matter how Floyd does this spring, I won't trust his health. I won't trust his health until after the last game he plays for the Cubs. That isn't a knock on him, I like the signing, but a realistic acknowledgement of who he is.
As for Pie, he basically needs to be no worse than the 2nd best OF on the team to make the club out of Spring Training. I would love nothing more than to see Soriano/Pie in CF/RF, but realistically, I just don't see how the Cubs can count on that unless Pie has the type of spring that forces the Cubs hand. Obviously, if a young player outplays a veteran, I am all for trading that vet, but I just don't see Pie outperforming Jones in the near term.
by WGNstatic on Feb 20, 2007 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you live long enough.............
First of all, Jones has to earn OUR RESPECT; not the other way around. Those of us attending games are paying his salary and it's up to him to produce.
Secondly, he's being paid handsomely to perform, and part of the deal is putting up with the grief when he doesn't perform well. No reason for the racial remarks, I agree, but all the other stuff he heard for his poor fielding, base running and hitting were certainly warranted.
He had a whopping total of two hits in the team's first 12 games in 2006. What do you expect the response from the crowd will be, especially when he was inept on the bases and in the field?!?!
I'll grant you his hitting did improve over the course of the season and he seemingly played hard all the time, but the die had already been cast given his April performance.
It strikes me Jones still has some proving to do in the field. I see no reason to let up on him until he delivers - CONSISTENTLY.
And not to stray too far, but this racial issue is a two-way street. Doesn't anyone find it odd that Lovie Smith can steer clear of this topic yet Dusty did everything possible to stir that pot?
by tville on Feb 20, 2007 9:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
absolutely agree
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Putting up with grief...
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming............
"No reason for the racial remarks, I agree"
...........comment in my post covers this topic.
by tville on Feb 20, 2007 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then what is the disagreement about
This would include the prolong period of boos, where he can't take a step in the field without being showered with boos. Is that necessary?
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There were parts................
The fact that by September he was able to camp under a fly without dropping it does not, in my mind, erase his history of poor defensive play.
by tville on Feb 20, 2007 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you are finding reasons to hate him?
But man, last season's team was so atrocious, I barely noticed these aspects of JJ's game. It wasn't his fault nobody got on base, or that the pitchers gave up a ton of home runs, or that the starters couldn't go at least 5 innings, or that.. well, you get the picture.
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats not the point
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why shouldn't he complain...
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you didnt address my comment
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I meant to say...
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true
by kylejo on Feb 20, 2007 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now you are putting...............
Don't recall me saying I hate him. In fact, can't remember stating I even disliked him.
Nonetheless, his game has holes and I don't intend to ignore those deficiencies.
I'm also not going to blame "last season's team" because only Jacque Jones was wearing #11 for the Cubs when fly balls dropped in front of him or when he dribbled throws in from the field or when he swung at 58-footers or when he ran to the wrong base, etc. Blame the team for the overall results, but please DO blame Jones for the blatant errors he himself created.
by tville on Feb 20, 2007 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I booed him a lot
None of the responses here were suggesting that we give him our respect for his playing. Just that we say that we aren't all racists and bigots. That's what was said in the original post, if I read it correctly.
by secdelahc on Feb 20, 2007 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Loud, sustained applause!
by Al on Feb 20, 2007 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now wait...
For the booing of Jacques Jones?
If we all applaud when someone boos Jacques Jones, might that get confusing. Especially when it seems others might respond by booing when others cheer...
oh boy, my head hurts...
by WGNstatic on Feb 20, 2007 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great post....
I think a majority of the criticism, as others have said, started from the original signing of Jacque. After a disappointing end to '05, I think alot of us were hoping for a big signing - and when Hendry announced the deal, many were outraged at what seemed like an overwhelming contract (with more emphasis on the # of years) at the time.
With that disappointment, JJ got off to a horrible start - and he heard from all of us. By the time he was putting up respectable numbers, the Cubs were 6 feet under.
If he's in our OF for '07, then I am behind him 100%. With the ball throwing & racial comments aside (and i'm not ignoring or supporting those - they were WAY out of line), I think alot of it was just "The nature of the beast" - We expect to win & win now, and those that can't come here and be successful, they will catch the Cub fans ire.
by talkingcubs on Feb 20, 2007 9:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
A few comments
I think it goes beyond that, too. But what I do hope is that the Lou Piniella led Cubs bring an end to what has been some really difficult Cub teams to like. I think there has been a very negative aura surrounding the Cubs that started with the 2004 collapse. I hope that 2007 ushers in a different feeling because I'm not sure I can deal with another season of this.
What bothers me the most is the racism claim. Dusty, Bob Nightengale, Dan McGrath, the crap that they propagated about Cub fans being racist was a symptom of the Baker management. There are racist fans amongst every team. While I empathize with Hawkins, Jones, and anyone else who ever got racist mail or criticism, and while I think that this behavior is unacceptable, just because a few Cub fans are racist doesn't mean that this is anything more than the fact that racist people exist in this world.
DmL
by dmlichte on Feb 20, 2007 10:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
This is a new season with a new manager and some new players. I am optimistic about this Cubs team and can't wait to see how they play together. I will be very disappointed if Murton doesn't get left field and Prior fails again.
by sue369 on Feb 20, 2007 10:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The bottom line on this.
by ctcoff99 on Feb 20, 2007 11:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Every diary, a headache
I think Jones will be an important component this year. If he runs the bases the same way, I will scream. At my TV. If I'm lucky enough to be able to catch a game since I don't have DirecTV. I would hope his arm will be better, but he never had much of one to begin with. It'll never be strong, but as long as he isn't throwing it into the ground right in front of him, I'll be happier than last year. He's actually a pretty good outfielder otherwise.
There's also the chance that Soriano doesn't take to center, and at that point they are going to look at Jones in center. With four capable outfielders in Soriano, Jones, Floyd and Murton, I really doubt we'll see Pie in center before Jones. There isn't much room for him this year unless (until) someone gets hurt.
So Jones is important because of his left-handed bat, his experience, and because he might be our centerfielder. And from my recollection of watching him as a Twin, he's pretty clutch.
The only time I soured on him was when I thought he wanted off the team and was going to be a distraction. I think some reports of his unhappiness were exaggerated or at least focused on too much. I now think he'll fit in just fine, and be an important part of the team. He's got my support, just like every other member of this Cubs team, but I reserve the right to bitch about him if he screws up.
by JodyDavis on Feb 20, 2007 12:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 20, 2007 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In various costumes
by cubbiejulie on Feb 20, 2007 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do I get to behead you?
by gravedigger on Feb 20, 2007 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how well I hit
by cubbiejulie on Feb 20, 2007 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
UZI
by Ozgreeder on Feb 20, 2007 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cliche
by Jesse Guam on Feb 20, 2007 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Move on
Much of Jones' problems were not of his making. As a hitter he did very well against RH pitching. However, he took 139 AB versus LH and had an abysmal .261 OBP. It wasn't Jones fault he was asked to hit against lefties. That's on Baker and Hendry. But JJ took the fall.
Finally, I've never heard when the problem with his shoulder was discovered. Did he have the injury when he was signed? Did Hendry act with due diligence?
by tharr on Feb 20, 2007 2:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i have no regrets
by CubsBall2202 on Feb 20, 2007 5:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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