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The Top 100 Cubs Of All Time - #11 Phil Cavarretta

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If someone were to have been named "Mr. Cub" for the 1940's, that player would undoubtedly be Phil Cavarretta. A native Chicagoan, Cavarretta played for the Cubs for 20 seasons, a team record. He appeared in the last Cubs' last 3 World Series and won the National League MVP award in 1945 with an outstanding batting line of .355/.449/.500 (leading the league in both BA and OBA). While primarily a first baseman, Cavarretta never had the prototypical power expected at that position rather it was his longevity and batting eye that carried him to this position, number 11 on the Top 100 Cubs.

Philip Joseph Cavarretta was born on July 19, 1916 in Chicago. While attending Lane Tech High School on the North Side, he was a local sensation as both a pitcher and hitter. Among his feats at Lane, were a no-hitter and 8 one-hitters; he also pitched his American Legion team to a national championship in 1933.

Prior to graduation at age 17, Phil signed with the Cubs; upon graduation he was assigned to the Cubs' minor league team at Peoria, making a splash in his very first professional game on May 17, 1934 -- homering in his first at-bat and hitting for the cycle. In September, the Cubs called him up and on September 16th, he made his major league debut against the Dodgers in Brooklyn, only 18 years old. On September 26, 1934, Cavarretta made his Wrigley Field debut and got his first hit, a home run, in a 1-0 Cubs win over Cincinnati.

Before the 1935 season, Cubs' player-manager Charlie Grimm decided to focus on managing and inserted the rookie Cavarretta as the regular first baseman. Phil responded with an excellent rookie campaign hitting .275 with 8 homeruns in 146 games. 1935 was also the year that a pair of 20-game winners, Lon Warneke and Bill Lee, led the Cubs to the World Series. Cavarretta struggled in the series, hitting .125 as the Cubs lost to the Tigers 4-2.

In 1936, Phil struggled as his OBP and slugging declined, to .306 and .376 respectively in spite of a decent .273 average. After the 1936 season, the Cubs acquired first baseman Ripper Collins from the Cardinals and as a result, in 1937 Cavarretta moved to a part-time role switching between first base and the outfield. 1938 was an especially bad year as Phil hit .239 in 268 AB's. The Cubs however once again made it to the World Series. This time, Cavarretta hit well as he batted .462 but the Cubs lost to the Yankees 4-0.

Unfortunately, 1939 was even a worse year as on May 8, he broke his ankle and only appeared in 22 games for the year. 1940 was a repeat as another broken ankle limited him to 65 games. In 1941, a healthy Cavarretta put up a solid season with a .286 average, .384 OBP and .413 slugging in 346 AB's. Due to an ear problem, Phil was exempt from war service and while many other stars left for war service, Phil remained and put up his best seasons from 1942 through 1945. Between 1942 and 1944 as a regular starter, Phil's average climbed from .270 to .291 to .321, likewise the OBP climbed from .365 to .382 to .390. In 1944, he also had a career high 15 triples and his 197 hits tied him for league lead.

1945 was a very good year for Cavarretta and the Cubs. Phil put up career highs in BA (.355), OBP (.449), slugging (.500) and RBI's (97). He also easily won the league MVP by over 100 points, in leading the Cubs, along with Andy Pafko and pitchers Hank Borowy and Hank Wyse, to their last World Series appearance, meeting the Tigers. Once again Cavarretta had a solid series hitting .423 but the Cubs once again lost the series, this time 4 games to 3.

With the National League back to full strength in 1946, Cavaretta put up solid years in 1946 and 1947 with .294 and .314 averages and .401 and .391 OBP. However, with young first baseman Eddie Waitkus back from military service, Phil once again shuttled between first base and the outfield during these years. By 1948 and 1949, Phil's days as a full time starter were over but he did put up solid years with .278 and .294 respectively. By 1950, he was strictly part-time with a .273 average in 256 AB's. In all, he played 1254 games at first base, and 538 games as an outfielder, playing all three outfield positions.

1951 brought a new chapter to Cavarretta's time with the Cubs. On July 21, 1951, Cubs' manager Frankie Frisch resigned and was replaced by Cavarretta, who was team captain. The '51 Cubs were a bad team and didn't improve under Cavarretta's leadership (27-47), finishing last. Phil did bat .311 in 206 at-bats but his playing career was essentially over. In 1952, the Cubs did improve finishing in 5th place with a 77-77 mark, the only time between 1946 and 1963 that they did not have a losing record. That didn't last very long -- in 1953, the team regressed, falling to 7th place with a 65-89 record. On March 29, 1954, during a spring training meeting with club owner P. K. Wrigley, Cavarretta commented that he did not believe the Cubs could compete in 1954. Wrigley, not pleased with the comments, decided to fire Phil and replace him with his long-time teammate and current minor league manager Stan Hack, and offered Phil a minor league managing slot. Cavarretta quit instead of taking the Los Angeles minor league assignment and ended his association with Cubs after 20 years. He was the first manager ever replaced during spring training. Incidentally, Phil was right: the 1954 team couldn't compete -- they finished with a 64-90 record, their fourth 90+ loss season since 1948.

After leaving the Cubs, Phil signed with the cross-town Chicago White Sox in May 1954 as a utility man. He batted .316 in 158 AB's for the Sox in 1954. As the 1955 season started, Cavarretta was once again a member of the Sox as a utility player. However, he had only four at-bats, and was released on May 9th, ending his major league career. He remained in baseball as a coach, scout and manager well into the 1970's, coaching for the Tigers in the 1960's, and working as a minor league batting instructor for the Mets in the 1970's. Phil is currently retired and living in Florida, the second-oldest former Cub after Lonny Frey; he is also one of only six living former players who played while Babe Ruth was also an active player (Frey, Bill Werber, Rollie Stiles, Sol Carter and Milt Bocek are the others; Cavarretta played against him when Ruth was a Boston Brave in 1935).

Cavarretta ranks in the top ten in many categories on the Cubs all-time lists: sixth in games played (1953), tenth in AB's (6592), tenth in runs (968), tenth in hits (1927), tenth in RBI's (896) and seventh in BB's (794). His .371 OBA ranks thirteenth -- not bad for a city kid from Lane Tech.

Phil Cavarretta's career stats at baseball-reference.com

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Interesting
Good data there on those who played against Ruth and are still alive. And also interesting that Cavaretta is the second-oldest former Cub.

I have to take issue with his ranking, however. I think he's ranked a bit too high, judging from the stats I just read. If you notice, he had his best four seasons (1942-1945) during the war years, when many of the best pitchers and fielders were serving in the war. This had to help his batting average quite a bit (he'd never hit much before the war, and he never hit much again after the war). Yes, he did play on three Cub World Series teams, so that should count for something. And his popularity, which made him the Mr. Cub of the 1940s, certainly should also count for something. I'm glad he didn't make the top 10, but I question whether he should even be in the top 15. Maybe the top 20.

"Eighty-five percent of the $#@&$ world's working! The other 15 come out here! A %&$&# playground for the $&&*@!"

by danimal15 on Feb 8, 2007 8:46 AM CST reply actions  

I agree.
Cavarretta spent about half of his 20 year Cubs career as a part timer.  And his career years were during the war.  Bill Nicholson, who led the Cubs in HR's eight years in a row, was heavily penalized in the rankings for the same thing.

Cavarretta's competitiveness held over into his coaching and managerial career.  I had a friend who played under him in the A's minor league system.  He had nothing good to say about ol' Philibuck.  According to my friend, he was strategically challenged and couldn't relate to young ballplayers.  Not great qualifications for a minor league manager.

by Clark Addison on Feb 8, 2007 8:57 AM CST reply actions  

re: I agree
I have to concur with the first two as well.  Three of Cavarretta's four best seasons were during WW2 - he was a good player, but I question whether he belongs in the top 25 at all.  He certainly shouldn't be ahead of Grace and Chance.

by Tracy on Feb 8, 2007 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Comparables
Sorry to pile it on Al, but work is very slow this morning.

I just looked at Baseballreference.com to get comparables for both Cavaretta and Nicholson. The players whose careers most resembled Cavaretta's, according to the site, were Wally Pipp, Dixie Walker, Sam West and Harry Davis.

For Nicholson, the top four comparables were Ben Oglivie, Jackie Jensen, Jeff Burroughs and Larry Doby. Also on the list was Kirk Gibson. Obviously we're not talking Hall of Famers here, but certainly a better bunch than the comparables for Cavaretta.

I realize your rankings look at more than just raw stats, and that Cavaretta played far longer for the Cubs than Nicholson and might have meant more to the team and its fans emotionally over the years. But just looking at the comparables, it would seem that Nicholson should be higher than 52, and Cavaretta shouldn't be as high as he is.

"Eighty-five percent of the $#@&$ world's working! The other 15 come out here! A %&$&# playground for the $&&*@!"

by danimal15 on Feb 8, 2007 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice write-up!
It has been really cool to read all of these excellent biographies of famous Cub players. It really give us fans a better grasp of the history of the ballclub and waht life was like in the eaarly days of the franchise.

I do hope, as we get into the top ten Cub players of all time, that Sammy Sosa is included somewhere in there! No matter how bad you hate the guy for what he did at the end of his Cubs' career, I believe we calmly have to set back and look at him thru an impartial lens as being perhaps one of the 3 best Cubs players of all time.

I don't agree with everything he was or did as a Cub, but by golly, he put up some monster numbers consistently for quite a few years, which deserve to be fully recognized as a huge part of Cubs history.

Leaving him off the list would be a real travesty in my book. Please don't do it Al! :)

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Feb 8, 2007 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

Patience!
All shall be revealed in good time.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 8, 2007 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Sosa
I imagine he'll be in the top five, love him or hate him. His numbers are incredible - probably the best raw offensive numbers any Cub ever put up. On numbers alone, he could conceivably be number one, but I think he has to be docked a few notches due to his attitude problems and possible steroid use.
"Eighty-five percent of the $#@&$ world's working! The other 15 come out here! A %&$&# playground for the $&&*@!"

by danimal15 on Feb 8, 2007 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Patience!
All shall be revealed in good time!

(I think I heard that somewhere before...)

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 8, 2007 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll say this again
when Sosa's write-up gets posted, but from 1998 to 2002, Sammy Sosa was the greatest Cub ever.

The rest of the time he spent in Chicago?  Not so much.

Time for a baseball-related sig line

by Josh Timmers on Feb 8, 2007 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

True
But those years you mention are of utmost importance.  He was one of the game's very, very best players.  He reinvigorated the game.  He brought many young fans back into the game.

And hell, Rick Wilkins made the list for hitting 30 home runs one season.  For the truly great seasons Sammy put up, he belongs in the upper portion of the top 10.

But of course, I think we will be arguing this again very soon.

PTBNL!

by gravedigger on Feb 8, 2007 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Banks
I would guess that Sandberg, Banks, Jenkins, Santo, and Williams are all ahead of Sosa.   And I would have Hartnett ahead of him as well.  So that's 7th, at best, for Sosa.  

by frustratedfan on Feb 8, 2007 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

And I forgot
Mordeci Brown.

I think Sosa stays in the top 10, but its close.

by frustratedfan on Feb 8, 2007 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Sosa ranks
number 2 behind Banks, but not far behind.  His five year run from 1998 through 2002 is unparelleled in major league history.  Nobody hit as many home runs in a five year period.  Not Ruth, not Bonds, not McGwire, not Aaron.

by Clark Addison on Feb 8, 2007 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Sosa........
I have said this before and I will always believe this. Ryno's Hall of Fame induction speeche was superb!!!

Excerpts from Ryno's speeche.....

"Hit a home run? Put your head down, drop the bat and run around the bases."

"When did it become OK for someone to hit home runs and forget how to play the rest of the game?

"These guys sitting up here {other Hall of Famers} did not pave the way for the rest of us so players could swing for the fences every time up and forget to move a runner to third. It's disrepectful to them and to you and to the game of baseball that we all played growing up."

Honesty compels me to say, that Ryno was throwing somebody under the bus......

I'm not sure where Sosa ranks as a Cub.

I do know that I respect the Hall of Famer and manager of the Peoria Chiefs, Ryne Sandberg, *and I do not respect Sosa. *

 

by deadcatbounce on Feb 8, 2007 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Sosa
Sterling character is not a prerequisite for baseball success.  Sure, Sosa was a self-centered showboat who might have cheated.  But what counts is what he did between the lines.  At least two other of the top ten Cubs had major character flaws.  Anson was a racist who set the cause of black ballplayers back over 6 decades.  Hack Wilson was an alcoholic.  

The hall of fame is filled with lots of less than sterling characters, from Ruth to Durocher and eventually to Barry Bonds.  

I stand by my statement that Sosa ranks second only to Banks, and not very far behind.

by Clark Addison on Feb 9, 2007 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

One stupid problem...
But since these are part of the record and not just lame posts people will forget in a week:

Born: July 19, 1916
Debut: September 16, 1934

That makes him 18, not 17.
And he would have been 17 at graduation, not 16. (did make the "professional debut" at 17, though)
(again, I know it's small, but still...)

worthless...

by tyger1147 on Feb 8, 2007 11:28 AM CST reply actions  

I missed that...
... when I was going over the piece. Thanks. I'll fix it.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 8, 2007 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Age
Reminds me a bit of Robin Yount, the way he became a major leaguer prettu much right out of high school.

Of course, Yount was the Brewers' starting shortstop at age 18 and never relinquished his spot in the lineup. Cavaretta took years to become a regular.

"Eighty-five percent of the $#@&$ world's working! The other 15 come out here! A %&$&# playground for the $&&*@!"

by danimal15 on Feb 8, 2007 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

And, in other news, Al...
Your buddy, Jody Garrut (spelling?), is now trying to make it with the Pirates.

So, he might make it back to Wrigley someday.

Or, then again, maybe not.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Feb 8, 2007 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

It's Gerut.
If he's finally healthy, I would expect him to make the Pirates as a backup.

FWIW, he and Kevin Ciarrachi are childhood friends -- that's how I know of him -- and I hope BOTH of them make it.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 8, 2007 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Caverreta
played in 140 games just 3 times, in 130 just 6 times, 4 of which were during the war.  He spent most of his career as a part-time player.  In  22 years, he failed to collect 2000 hits.  His OPS+ is just 118.  He did walk more than 200 times more than he struck out.  But he was hardly above average in the field.

Mark Grace outhit Cavaretta by 10 points; had over 2000 Cub hits in 8 fewer years, an OPS+ of 119, and won 4 gold gloves.  Cavaretta did make 4 all-star teams to Grace's 3, but its hard for me to see how Cavaretta makes #11.  Longevity, I guess.

by bleacher on Feb 8, 2007 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

And...
... played on 3 NL champions, won a MVP award, and managed the team. Those all count for something, too.
"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 8, 2007 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

True...
3 NL champs, but he was hardly responsible for the '38 title, hitting .239 in 268 ABs.  And his MVP was during a war year.  In fact, he hit .300 as a full-time player in a non-war year only once in his career: 1947, when he had just 144 hits (.314-2-63).  If you discount his war years as being vs inferior opposition, he seems especially overrated.  

by bleacher on Feb 8, 2007 8:39 PM CST reply actions  

Good to see
the Lane Tech boy finally gets in. Stories about him are legendary. Along with all the plaques on the wall.

GO INDIANS!!!!

by On tha come up on Feb 8, 2007 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

Ruth research, etc.
Good data there on those who played against Ruth and are still alive.  Can I ask whether that was your own research or something you saw somewhere.  And is that played against or just were in MLB at the same time?  Thanks!

For a further Cub connection, one of those players on your list, Rollie Stiles was a teammate of HofF Kiki Cuyler when the latter was player-manager of the Chattanooga Lookouts in 1940.

by Brownieand45sfan on Feb 9, 2007 1:11 PM CST reply actions  

There are online lists...
... of the oldest living former major leaguers. One of them is here.

It appears that all of them DID play in games against Ruth, though that is not confirmed through boxscores.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 9, 2007 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

more info please
The list of oldest players only goes "down" to players two years older than Phil.  There still could be a whole lot of players born after 1914 who may have played against the Bambino.

Sorry to be persistent, but just wondering if that research is out there of who is still alive and played with or against Babe Ruth.  

Eventually it does get down to box scores, as you suggest, but it would be a good start just to have a list of who was in the A.L. in the same year as Ruth (or WS, if applicable.)  To do that, I can't think of any other way but to sift through by hand the playing records of everyone born 1918 (would be 17 in 1935) or older and see if they faced him.

One day there will be no more left!

by Brownieand45sfan on Feb 9, 2007 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...
... if you want to do the research, go ahead -- baseball-reference lists players born by year (you can click on Cavarretta's stats, then click on his birth year, that gives you everyone born in 1916, then change it to 1915).

I was going to do this, but there are over 400 players born in those two years. Given the fact that only a handful of 1914-born players are still living, I made the (probably NOT erroneous) assumption that none, or nearly none, of the 1915 and 1916 born players faced Ruth.

My guess is that there are fewer than ten living players who were born between January 1915 and when Phil Cavarretta was born. If you think you can find some others to add, be my guest.

"[BCB] is much better than... well, everything." -- gravedigger, January 21, 2007

by Al Yellon on Feb 9, 2007 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

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