Who Cares?
The Giants beat the Cubs 9-2 in the spring opener today at Ho Ho Kam Park in front of a smallish (well, for Mesa, anyway) crowd of 8,079 on a day when it wasn't much warmer in Mesa (57 degrees) than it is right now outside my window in Chicago (46 degrees).
And so what? Of the eight pitchers the Cubs used today, only one of them -- Jason Marquis -- is going to be on the major league roster. Marquis pitched -- well, OK. Gave up three hits and a run in his two innings; didn't walk anyone or strike out anyone.
The other pitchers -- Les Walrond, John Webb, Carmen Pignatiello, Ben Howard, Randy Wells, Rocky Cherry and Jason Anderson, all non-roster invitees -- gave up eight more runs, including four in the 9th off Anderson, but only two of them were earned; Scott Moore and Ronny Cedeno errors helped pave the way for all the Giants' fun.
Of those who will be on the Cubs' Opening Day roster, only Derrek Lee and Cesar Izturis had hits, both singles. Geovany Soto's triple was the only extra-base hit; it drove in one of the two runs. Briefly reading the boxscore, at first I'd thought Mark DeRosa had homered; nope, it was the Giants' Tomas de la Rosa, off Wells.
Yawn. It really doesn't matter. What matters is that Ron & Pat were on the radio describing baseball (poorly, in Ron's case; at one point he was heard coming back from a commercial break saying, to some unknown person, "I'm on the air"). Sixteen years you've been at this now, Ron. But I guess that's part of his charm, for those who like that sort of thing. What matters is that the calendar has turned over to March and two weeks from today, I'll be sitting on the LF berm in Mesa myself, renewing my own acquaintance with the game we all love.
Tomorrow will be Carlos Zambrano's first spring start; he's not expected to go more than two innings, either.
This is a short recap, because there's not too much to tell. They'll get longer as the season gets closer, and more detailed at the games I actually attend.
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The most exciting thing for me about today's game
Al you are too kind...
Ross
I used....
If I want to talk to a "fan" I can come here or call my friends. When I listen to the radio, I want to be informed and made to feel like I am watching the game. Ronnie does not do that for me.
by timeforachange on Mar 1, 2007 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with you here.
wow, i'm not
different strokes...
I agree with you on Pat. He is top notch. If you put Stoney in the booth, I think you would forget about Santo the announcer quickly.
by timeforachange on Mar 1, 2007 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
but the radio broadcast is so entertaining
Right...
But there are a lot of people out there who agree with your view, and that's why Ron still has the job.
That's true
Since we normally don't learn anything from a lot of these cookie-cutter bores, we might as well be entertained.
by Richie Hebner 18 on Mar 1, 2007 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
I find....
I hope he hangs it up.
by timeforachange on Mar 2, 2007 8:10 AM CST up reply actions
Absolutely right
If the latter is what you want out of the broadcast, then great. I would rather have a one-man booth than what they currently have. The broadcast is not entertaining to me, and that is why I chose not to buy the MLB streaming service last year.
I know I must come across as a total Ron Santo hater. I have nothing against the man, I just wish he would get off the radio.
I'm with Ross on this 100%
That's Pat's job.
I guess I still don't appreciate all the stuff I could learn from announcers. I don't know why, but I guess I just want to know what happened not what can/may happen.
I haven't listened to anybody outside of Chicago, ESPN, and TBS. I don't know if that's enough for me to know what I like in a broadcaster, but I do have some ideas. Mostly, I just want them to entertain me when nothing is going on. That's all I ask for now, and Pat and Ron do fine with that. Len and Bob are getting there.
wild bill is right on.
by wheatfield mike on Mar 2, 2007 8:23 AM CST up reply actions
One of us.....
I will take the likes of Steve Stone over Ronnie any day.
To each their own. I am just happy I get to go to the home games so I don't have to listen to him.
by timeforachange on Mar 2, 2007 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
I've used the same arguments against Harry Caray..
Even worse...
by timeforachange on Mar 1, 2007 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Which is a shame...
DmL
Man...
Count....
He is hurt by having to work with Singleton.
by timeforachange on Mar 1, 2007 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
No doubt.
Have you....
by timeforachange on Mar 1, 2007 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Farmer
DmL
"On the air"
Thanks for the update!
I agree
Oddly enough...
by jolietconvict on Mar 1, 2007 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Listening to the games.....
I know he is a "nice guy" and a hero to many, but his time has passed. Please bring in someone who can add something to the game.
by timeforachange on Mar 1, 2007 6:10 PM CST reply actions
One note
DmL
He's had several major surgeries
Ron has my sympathies...
But, BOY, he is OUT OF IT in the booth.
Last year, in one of the Phillies game, he remarked (during an inning break), that the pitcher had changed his motion, and named him.
What he didn't realize was that it was a new pitcher - and Pat had to tell him it wasn't the same guy! I mean COME ON!
I have an appriciation for radio, and work in the industry, but he just adds zip at this point. I suppose the only way things will change there is if he makes it to "the great diamond in the sky" while on the air.
by TheEman on Mar 1, 2007 9:15 PM CST reply actions
i just can't understand this sentiment
What is it that you...
And, how do we "get" Justin T. for Howlin' Wolf? What's your point?
At least Howlin' Wolf was able to "perform" til the end.
Ronny is just out of it...
Its ENOUGH already.
by TheEman on Mar 1, 2007 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
I remember a similar story...
Pat had to tell him that this Borbon was the son of the guy Ron had faced in the early 70's, when the senior Borbon was a Reds reliever.
You know......
I couldn't resist saying
not to
I'm probably
Seacrest.....
Asking her if she got "anything" else new was obviously a reference to her breasts.
He is too full of himself.
by timeforachange on Mar 2, 2007 8:09 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't like it either.
THIS IS A BASEBALL SITE
Thanks!
by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think there's anything wrong...
Lighten up
By the way, who did you vote for?
by cubbieboy on Mar 2, 2007 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
As I have repeatedly said...
However, perhaps these might have worked better in an off-topic diary. Just a suggestion.
Temperature
It is forecast to be in upper 70s over the weekend and may hit 80 next week.
by jazzman56 on Mar 2, 2007 1:26 AM CST reply actions
Thanks!
Official Air temperature
Funny story: Many years ago, there was a small town in Arizona that got announced in the weather news almost every day from May to September as being the daily hot spot in the nation. This went on for a couple of years.
Someone checked their weather station and found that out they had moved their temperature gauge out into the direct sun, ensuring an abnormally high reading. Somehow, they thought it would boost the town's image by getting mentioned in the weather reports every day.
After they moved the gauge back into the shade, the hottest spot started reverting to locations that truly deserved it, like Bullhead City, AZ and Death Valley, CA, and the little town was never heard of again.
It is supposed to be 69 here today and I am feeling a strong pull to head out to the ol' ballpark this afternoon (don't tell my boss).
by jazzman56 on Mar 2, 2007 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
As long as...
Laying an egg in spring training
Yes, I agree!
I'm glad he has a very low tolerance for stupid plays and lack of execution. Hopefully, This will soon rub-off unto the players, or else they will be riding those busses in the minors all season long.
The sooner the players get that message (which I think they probably have already) the sooner our beloved baseball team gets better!
I am surprised Cedeno made an error. He has been playing ball all winter in Venezuela and should be in top form already.
by CubFanSince1970 on Mar 2, 2007 7:54 AM CST up reply actions
Cedeno's error
Santo
There will be folks complaining no matter WHO is in the booth. On this very site I've seen people rail on Vin Scully, Bob Uecker, and even the best baseball mind in broadcasting, Stoney.
What I like about Pat & Ron's broadcast is that over the coarse of a season, you feel like you KNOW them. Radio is a much more intimate thing than tv, and I like it that way. When I'm sitting at my computer all day I enjoy listening to my old friends talk about the ball game in the afternoon. I laugh along with them as much as I do O&A and Ron&Fez (XM202)
Ron's time will pass soon enough, and whomever replaces him will be completely different. When that time comes, I'll enjoy the things that THAT guy does well. But I'll miss hanging out w/ Pat and Ron every afternoon.
by BCurt10 on Mar 2, 2007 7:40 AM CST reply actions
Stone
Anyone remember the radio broadcasts from the 2003 playoffs? Stone and Hughes? It was a thing of beauty.
DmL
I would think...
You're absolutely right about the 2003 postseason on the radio with Stone & Hughes. One of the best broadcasting teams I have ever heard.
Sure
I've said it b4... I learned 100x more from Stoney growing up than I ever did from any of my coaches.
I can't believe ESPN didn't throw a ton of money at him to stay with them.
by BCurt10 on Mar 2, 2007 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
Radio...
Stone
And apparently ESPN was paring back on their announcers. More importantly they feel the need to bring in names that people will identify with, regardless of their quality.
DmL
At the convention...
I never got attached to Stone, and I don't know why because by what everyone says he's good. I'm just too spacey to pay enough attention I guess.
My vivid memory of Stone is him saying that Corey deserved a gold glove in 2004, but that he wouldn't get one because of all the players who normally got them.
2003....
by timeforachange on Mar 2, 2007 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
i for one would love a 3 man team
Why do you need......
Not being disrespectful, but I just don't get it. A fan has passion for the Cubs. Do you really need a cheerleader to make the game more enjoyable?
by timeforachange on Mar 2, 2007 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe some people do.
I think....
The point I was trying to make is that baseball makes me passionate. The Cubs make me passionate. Ronnie's fumbling of the broadcast does not do it for me.
by timeforachange on Mar 2, 2007 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
I think
by hawkeyenation on Mar 2, 2007 9:20 AM CST reply actions
Nice
My two cents.....
by deadcatbounce on Mar 2, 2007 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Fan of Santo
Santo gets a bad wrap especially for how they handle spring training games. They obviously play them very loose due to the whole atmosphere of Arizona. Ron was (lightly) making fun of their new spring training director for the way he could be heard announcing they were back on the air after breaks and also had some insightful comments about Colvin's swing after watching him take BP.
Pat is great but without Santo the broadcasts would be cold and not have nearly as much "life".
I think some of the "dumbing down cub nation" comments because Santo is well liked is unfair. I don't need to be taught the game on air, I already know it. Let Pat describe what is happening and let Ronnie fill in the dead air.
But what Ronnie fills in...
It adds NOTHING in my opinion. It is not "charming" anymore when the "color" guy doesn't know what is going on, can't communicate when his job is to communicate. Radio is extremely intimate. I have no problem developing long-term relationships with on-air talent. I LOVED Ron as a "color guy" up through the 2003 season. Now - It is like putting your 95 year old grandpa behind the wheel of a car. Sure he "can" still drive and has a license, but should he REALLY be on the road anymore?
You Ron-on-the-Air supporters out there have nothing to worry about, though. Unless he is physically unable to perform, he will be in the booth forever.
As an audio professional, in my opinion, it would be great if they retired him from the booth and created an office or PR position for him.
by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 10:06 AM CST reply actions
Have I told......
by timeforachange on Mar 2, 2007 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
One Man Broadcast!
I should add...
by Goat Whisperer on Mar 2, 2007 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Good idea
That would work for me.
by deadcatbounce on Mar 2, 2007 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
About Pat and Ron
They're the odd couple of baseball radio. Pat is Felix: prim, proper and well-informed, with a cutting wit and remarkable patience while Ron is, well, Oscar: gruff, grumbly and often confused and incoherent.
But I dig it. Cubs radio wouldn't be nearly as much fun without him. That said, I can certainly understand why and how others may not feel this way.
I should also confess that I really haven't listened to many other baseball radio broadcasts. In fact, the only one I can think of is the White Sox guys, whom I found utterly flat, emotionless and monotone. (And let's not even waste keystrokes on discussing Hawk Harrelson -- can't stand the guy.) So maybe I just don't know any better. Nonetheless, I wanted to put in a good word for Ron as a broadcaster, seeing as how putting in a good word for him as a third baseman never seems to do him any good whatsoever.

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