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Um, Kerry? Maybe You Better Listen To Lou

MESA, Arizona -- In yesterday's Tribune, Lou Piniella and Kerry Wood had a bit of a war of words on how often Wood should be pitching, and how roster spots might be decided:

Wood: "It's something we talked about before spring training, that it's not necessary for me to go back-to-back days in spring training. Can I do it? Yeah. What's the point right now? I have to stay on the field and continue to pitch and get better."

Piniella: "He shouldn't be questioning anybody, truthfully. All I'm saying is when we [say we want] back-to-back and two-inning [stints], that's the proper way to get the bullpen prepared for the start of a season. With Kerry that hasn't been the plan, obviously, and the reason I say that is because he has had a couple of setbacks. Now, if he hadn't had those setbacks, that would be the plan."

Apparently, Wood, who was supposed to throw tomorrow, must have talked Lou into using him today, because Kerry came on to throw the seventh inning (instead of Neal Cotts, who was originally supposed to pitch today). Bad move. Wood allowed three hits, including a two-run homer by Kendry Morales, which provided the margin of victory in a 3-2 Angels win over the Cubs this afternoon.

BCB reader bleacher came out to the berm to tell us he'd been watching the scouts' radar guns on Wood, and unlike Friday's appearance, when his velocity was good, Wood peaked at 88 this afternoon, and the pitch to Morales was only 82 MPH.

So is this another setback? We won't know until tomorrow, I suppose.

It was another quick game -- two hours and seventeen minutes -- played in front of another sellout (12,727), consisting of a substantial minority of red-clad Angels fans (if you look at the jerseys and T-shirts they are wearing, you'd think Vladimir Guerrero was the only player on the team), on an absolutely perfect day in the Valley; 74 degrees at game time (it was in the 80's later in the day), not a cloud in the sky, the kind of day we know we won't see in Chicago till June.

And at first it appeared the game might go even more quickly than 2:17 -- Ervin Santana mowed down the Cubs in the first four innings, retiring the first twelve batters he faced, until Cliff Floyd led off the fifth with another one of his now-familiar monster home runs over the bullpen. I hate the DH, but find myself wishing the NL had it, with Floyd on the roster, he'd make a perfect player for that position. The DH was used today by mutual agreement between the Cubs and Angels, and Daryle Ward played first base, giving Derrek Lee the day off.

Aramis Ramirez also got the day off, and Mark DeRosa played third base -- oddly, the position he's played most in his major league career to date (147 games at 3B, 137 at SS, 114 at 2B through 2006). It showed. DeRosa made some really slick plays in the field, and had seven assists in all. Not that Ramirez will require many days off (we hope!), but now we know that there's a very capable defensive replacement on the ballclub.

Ted Lilly bettered Santana -- throwing six shutout innings, allowing four hits and only one walk (leading off the game to Gary Matthews Jr.), and getting nine of his eighteen outs on ground balls. He threw 58 pitches, 39 for strikes.

After Wood had coughed up the lead, Michael Wuertz and Ryan Dempster both threw efficient scoreless innings -- whatever that minor problem was affecting Dempster's shoulder a week or so ago seems to have passed -- and the Cubs had a really good chance to win the game in the last of the eighth. They loaded the bases on singles by Cesar Izturis and Felix Pie, and after a nicely-executed sac bunt by Ronny Cedeno (that's nice to see -- Cedeno doing something like that and doing it well), a walk to Angel Pagan loading the bases.

With Floyd and Ward up with one out, things seemed promising. Floyd drew a walk, forcing in a run (to which I said to everyone with me, including again today BCB'ers jessica, dfrancon, jazzman56 and the SD Smooth Jazzman, "Somewhere, Dusty Baker is yelling at his TV, 'Hack at that, dude!'"), but Ward hit into an inning-ending double play.

The ninth inning was thrown by a non-roster Angel trying to make their bullpen, Matt Wilhite, who's a submariner whose hand almost scrapes the ground when he throws, a la Chad Bradford. He was effective, getting Koyie Hill, Matt Murton and DeRosa all to ground out to end the game.

Despite the loss, it was a useful game for Ted Lilly, who had his best start of the spring and who could easily have thrown at least another inning -- this is one reason ST results don't mean anything, because in a regular season game someone who'd thrown that few pitches, with a 1-0 lead in the 7th inning, would absolutely, positively be allowed to at least start that 7th inning, with a setup reliever waiting in the bullpen.

Finally, we met a nice couple, Mike & Tara from Edison Park (hey, you two -- hope you put your BCB card to good use, and are reading this!). I mention them because I kept looking over at him as his cellphone was beeping almost non-stop. The reason for this -- he had text-messaged about 40 of his friends the following:

$6.00 a beer, $5.00 a dog, $200 for spa treatment, Being in Mesa for spring training at 88 degrees....... Priceless.

And apparently, all 40 of his friends were messaging him back. Hey, why not? That's what spring training is for -- players working on things to get ready for the season, and fans having fun. A week from tomorrow, it begins for real.

Finally, I have been asked by the Rev Halofan of the SB Nation Angels site Halos Heaven to appear on a show on KarmaAir tonight sometime between 9 and 10 pm CDT. (Click on the link to hear the show)

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I'm sure someone is going to post a diary on this later, but it really doesn't have the depth to be one.

Baseball Prospectus (subscription required) is reporting that Carlos Zambrano should sign a 5 year extension this week worth between $80-90 million.

I should mention this comes from John Perrotto, who also covers baseball for the Beaver County Times.

Given the market for pitching this past off-season, this is a steal for Hendry.  I do worry about Zambrano's durability over the length of this contract, but I rather take the chance he'll be healthy than take a chance at losing him.

Great deal, if true.

by Josh77 on Mar 25, 2007 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Five years, $80-$90m?
Man, what a great deal if true. Yes, there's always injury risk, but this is far less risky than, say, the deal the Giants gave Barry Zito.

I hope it happens, and SOON!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 25, 2007 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
What the Giants gave Zito is crazy for a guy who is really a #2 or #3 starter these days.

And considering how Mulder and Hudson broke down, Zito might not be far behind.

by Josh77 on Mar 25, 2007 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call me......
crazy, but I can't see BigZ signing this type of contract.

Unless Hendry has pictures of him with farm animals, I think he is 5/ 100 at least.

"I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this." Sue369

by timeforachange on Mar 25, 2007 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fantastic.
Time is running out, so hopefully this is true.  It really would be a great deal.
"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Mar 25, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angels jerseys
Unless you go to Angels Stadium, just try to find an Angel jersey or shirt in the stores that has any name on the back other than Guerrero.

But hey, Vlad's my wife's favorite player in the whole world.

by Josh77 on Mar 25, 2007 6:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Karma
Good luck on your podcast interview.  I play Sporting News Salary Cap Fantasy Baseball and it shows the good Rev. has a team as well.  I'll be listening from now on.  Should be fun.

by northofwrigley on Mar 25, 2007 7:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al, you forgot to mention
that you and San Diego SmoothManjazz were on TV today not once but twice. Bob Brenley thought you were scouts with the clipboards. Wish I had been there today but nice to see the berm crowd still carrying on.
I'm a bleedcubbiebluer!

by mrcubsfan on Mar 25, 2007 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scouts?
Well, maybe not scouts, but they did have a rather intense look about them. Brenley seemed to think so, for sure.
"That would be a home run, if it were in a phone booth!" -Harry Caray

by riggs on Mar 25, 2007 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh darn.
I missed the game and didn't see that! :)
"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Mar 25, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Y'all were also called
Folks working on their fantasy baseball draft choices.  I had the feeling that was youse guys out there!

LRRF

"God, grant me the Serenity to accept the Prior I cannot change, and the wisdom to know I'll be disappointed."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Mar 25, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
Yes, that was us. The SDSJM called me after the game to tell me that he had gotten a call from someone who saw the two of us. Guess we looked pretty impressive with those clipboards.

If anyone's got a tape of this game, could you pull a clip out and send it to me, or post it on YouTube? I could link to it, at least till YouTube asks for it to be removed.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 25, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given the party that
was going on around us, it wouldn't have been hard to look a little less serious. I got a bunch of calls from the midwest on this, apparently significant face time!

by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Mar 25, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smooth Jazz,
please tell me they didn't get a shot of me accidentally pouring beer onto my tshirt!

by dfrancon on Mar 26, 2007 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figures....
The one game I knew I had to miss on TV and there you were. :::sigh::: I'm kicking myself for not getting it on TiVo.

by No Southern Belle on Mar 25, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note to Self:
To get on WGN, leave funny signs and big hats at home.  Bring clipboard.

LRRF

"God, grant me the Serenity to accept the Prior I cannot change, and the wisdom to know I'll be disappointed."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Mar 26, 2007 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was you?
That's hilarious.  I was watching the game and, having never met you before, I had no idea.  
Good morning ma'am... I'm here to fix the cable. -- Lee Northwood

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 26, 2007 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it was.
And now you know what I look like.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 26, 2007 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only problem with that is
first of all, I don't know which one you were and secondly, I remember the "incident" seemed unremarkable at the time so I didn't take note of the people they were referring to.  So fear not, your identity still remains hidden from me.  
Good morning ma'am... I'm here to fix the cable. -- Lee Northwood

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 26, 2007 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
I don't fear -- there are photos of me at various places on this very site. Search through and you'll find them.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 26, 2007 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What inning?
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Mar 26, 2007 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
What inning???

I wish I knew what that meant.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 27, 2007 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In which inning
did they show you on tv- I still have it on the TiVo.
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Mar 27, 2007 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I threaded it kinda funny,
whoops.
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Mar 27, 2007 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I get it now.
I'm not sure. Does anyone else know? If you do, post it here for Whitebacon so he can take out the clip and either email it to me or post it on YouTube (for as long as YouTube can leave it up).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 27, 2007 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if you'll see this...
From what I remember, you were shown with SDSJM at just past the half way point, if you are able to look back on mlb.tv.  
http://www.inaleagueofherown.com

by gravedigger on Mar 27, 2007 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you watch...
... MLB.TV archive games without a subscription? If so, I haven't been able to find the place on their site to do this.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 27, 2007 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Found it
shame on you Al for talking on a cell phone during a game, on TV.  Shame.
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Mar 28, 2007 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll see what I can do with this,
first, I have to figure out how to strip the DRM from tivo, although I could always go low-fi and record it with my digital camera, and upload it that way.
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Mar 28, 2007 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Though
at least you weren't waving at the camera like a lunatic.  
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Mar 28, 2007 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me know if you can upload it.
I was talking on the phone, too? What a multitasker I am! ;)
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 28, 2007 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about
THAT!

It is true.

It was rather disappointing all in all, that the team had a chance to beat the Angels - once. And let it slip through the fingers.

They are very, very good and I fully expext them to be in it all the way this year. Kerry Wood, as you say, is NOT ready for PRime Time.

It is going to be an intersting race between LAA and Tejas, in my humble opinion. OAK will have a down year for them.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 25, 2007 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Amazing
How that turned into a war of words between Wood and Pinella.  Hardly a war of words differeing opinions on how ready he was.
For Cub fans spring training combines the eternal hope of spring with the irrational belief in the impossible.

by kerrysotherwife on Mar 25, 2007 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being mistaken for a scout
When I'm not with my kids at games and when I was single I would bring a notebook and be taking notes.

One time a lady stopped by and said "It's nice to see a woman working in baseball"  I guess I looked official.

Was wearing my serious glasses.  I also had come from work and had my business clothes on and where our seats our could qualify as being official.

For Cub fans spring training combines the eternal hope of spring with the irrational belief in the impossible.

by kerrysotherwife on Mar 25, 2007 8:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al, dont ever become a weatherman..
"The temperature was 74 degrees with not a cloud in te sky.....A day that we wont see in Chicago til June."

Today's high temperature was an all new March 25th high for Chicago of 79 degrees.

Anyway back to the game.

Kerry Wood spoiled an excellent start by Lilly, and I still dont think that home run that Floyd hit has landed yet, they replayed the sound that bat made when he hit it several times, wow what a moon shot.

Of course im a CUBS FAN What other Chicago baseball team is there?

by Galvan316 on Mar 25, 2007 11:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OK...
... let me amend that:

A day we won't see AGAIN in Chicago till June!

Once the baseball season starts, it seems as if it gets cold just to spite us.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 26, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm..
Today is going to be 80 degrees :)

FYI

I know what you where saying just being difficult :)

Of course im a CUBS FAN What other Chicago baseball team is there?

by Galvan316 on Mar 26, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup
The last two days here have been absolutely gorgeous.  They should have closed the city and given everyone the day off today.

Of course, we all know it will be in the 40's (at best) by April 9th.

"Don't think; it can only hurt the ball club."

by Jesse Guam on Mar 26, 2007 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kerry Wood's fastball
 I had a good view of todays game, directly behind home plate, 3rd row - right behind Larry, the Santa Claus look a like and the home run to Morales was a change up. Although it was obvious that Kerry's velocity was down. Compared to Santana who's fastball was electic and I'm guessing mid 90's, Kerry's fastball was almost listless and fat. He did throw a lot of change ups today and after that HR to Morales, he was visibly peezed. Not sure who the next hitter was but Wood had his best fastball of the game against him.

 Wouldn't surprise me at all if his fastball never hit 90. Obviously Wood is a Strikeout pitcher and without a consistent fastball, he's  toast.

But back to Santana, wow he was impressive. Spotting his fastball and made a lot of Cub hitters look silly. HIs fastball was so good that the hitters had to look fastball and there was virtually nothing at all they could do with his curve. If he pitches like he did today, with command of his fastball, he's going to make a lot of AL hitters look foolish and win 18 games.

 Lilly looked good too and was surprised how much life his fastball had. Anyone know what the gun on WGN had him at? I'm guessing he hit 91-92 a couple times.

"What's it all about? Booze, Broads and bullshit." Harry Caray

by lemon17pie on Mar 26, 2007 12:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Angels......
have been trying to deal Santana for a couple of years now. I've been hoping that Hendry would save the team 14.5 million a year in payroll and trade Zambrano for Santana and Brandon Wood, but I don't think its going to happen.
RAMIREZ!! PRIOR!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Mar 26, 2007 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not true
The Angels have NOT been trying to deal Ervin Santana.  They were willing to part with him if he brought in Miguel Tejada (who is signed to a long-term, under-market contract) in return, but that's the only deal I've heard his name mentioned in.  

The Angels simply wouldn't trade Santana and Wood for Zambrano.  First, because of the salaries involved, but mostly because the Angels are one of the few teams that have enough pitching but need more offense.  It wouldn't make any sense for them to trade a solid starter and their top prospect for even more pitching.

Santana's name has not been seriously connected to any trade rumor other than the Tejada trade last summer.  

by Josh77 on Mar 26, 2007 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did you
get this information? Links?

BS

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 26, 2007 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet (?) Lou
What Lou might bring to the club is some discipline that wasn't there before, and maybe this is an early sign of things to come?

If so, good news for the Cubs. And newspapermen.

--

ScoutingBook.com: Daily Prospect Rankings, Closer Watch, and more!

by scoutingbook on Mar 26, 2007 7:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is...
" The Angels have been trying to deal Santana for a couple of years now."
Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 26, 2007 7:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday's game...
...marked the first FULL Cubs game I've been able to watch on TV this year. (Unfortunately, this doesn't happen too often. I won't bore you with the details of why.)

A few comments:

1. I'm really glad Irvin Santana doesn't pitch in the NL or, God forbid, the NL central. Whereas Lilly generally looked effective (and Ted himself has admitted to hanging a few sliders and getting some critical defensive help), Santana looked utterly dominating.

I noticed that Soriano in particular looked completely helpless at the plate. I must admit, it appears as though Cubs fans are going to have to work on our respective teeth-gritting skills to get through Soriano's tendency to, um, MISS THE BASEBALL WITH THE BAT. (I thought he did look fairly comfortable in centerfield, though.)

2. Kerry Wood makes me sad. I know, I know -- me and everyone who's called themselves a Cubs fan over the last two, three, four, whatever years. Before I read all these reports of his declined velocity, not to mention his apparent ticket back to the DL, I didn't think he pitched all that poorly.

He was throwing strikes (12 of 18 pitches, according to BMilez) and those two singles were ground balls -- one of them happened to be up the middle and the other would have gone right to Izzy had the hit and run not been on. The home run...well, OK, that sucked.

I think yesterday's outing also revealed, aside from the whole shoulder injury thing, what many have feared about putting Kerry in a relief role: He tends to have these wild innings where he gives up a run or three. As a starter, he could usually (well, sometimes) survive these "glitches" and still do OK overall. But, as a reliever, there's no such room for error. How much on-the-job training can the Cubs afford to give him?

3. I saw Al and SD Smooth Jazzman, too! Despite the fact that I have seen pictures of you, Al, I didn't recognize you guys, though the the thought did occur to me that it could be you. Yeah, Len and Bob went on for several minutes about how you were either scouts or really dedicated fantasy leaguers.

4. DeRosa looked fantastic at third base. Not only did he make a couple spectacular grabs, but his throws were incredibly strong and accurate. I get the impression that Lou now seems to be leaning away from the idea of shackling DRose to the second base position and, instead, trying to maximize his versatility. I strongly support this.

All in all, I'd say yesterday was a "good loss." The hitters just got dominated by an excellent young pitcher. And despite the lack of clutch hitting at the end, I turned off the TV feeling I'd witnessed a lot of positives.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 26, 2007 12:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with your analysis 100%.
That's the second Angels pitcher who's made the Cubs offense (which has otherwise pounded the ball this spring) look silly. The Angels pitching staff is terrific -- they ought to run away with that division.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 26, 2007 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

#3
Is probably the best observation. Good thing I bought that clipboard at Walgreens' in Tempe on Friday or the shot just wouldn't have been good enough for the Superstation.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 26, 2007 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're going to have to...
... bring that clipboard with you to ALL the games you attend, now!

BTW, I totally forgot -- I had three blank scoresheets with me, I could have given them to you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 26, 2007 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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