2007 Community Projections: Jason Marquis

by Al Yellon on Mar 5, 2007 8:19 AM CST in Community Projections

Well, this ought to be interesting.

I think most of you know that I think Marquis will snap back to near his 2004 numbers with the Cardinals. He's never going to be a Cy Young-caliber pitcher, but I see no reason he can't be a serviceable fifth starter.

G 32
GS 32
IP 211
H 220
W 11
L 12
BB 73
SO 128
ERA 4.21
WHIP 1.389

Jason Marquis' career stats at baseball-reference.com

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Better but still "suck"

G 37
GS 15
IP 141
H 163
W 6
L 7
BB 45
SO 70
ERA 4.52
WHIP 1.47

I think Mr. Marquis will find his way into the Rusch role by July 1.

It is good to be home again!!!!!!

by timeforachange on Mar 5, 2007 8:21 AM CST reply actions

Marquis

I'm working on my specific projection but I kind of expect Marquis to have an okay but not great year. Around 500. Do enough to keep us in games when he starts and win games 5-4 when he wins.

If Prior is healthy he will be a decent 5th starter.

For Cub fans spring training combines the eternal hope of spring with the irrational belief in the impossible.

by kerrysotherwife on Mar 5, 2007 8:25 AM CST reply actions

Rusch redux?

Well, at $8mm more a year, what are you guys sayin' here?

Hopefully, he'll throw many less HR balls than Rusch.

However, should he falter, I believe Miller will take his place.

Unless Prior is hurt, the rotation will be somethng like:

Z
Lilly
Prior
Hill
Marquis

Wade Miller supplants any of the faltering above. At least until the trade deadline.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 5, 2007 8:46 AM CST reply actions

Bris Marquis

G 45
GS 24
IP 171
H 186
W 9
L 11
BB 64
SO 91
ERA 5.03
WHIP 1.46

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 5, 2007 9:15 AM CST reply actions

Serviceable enough for a 5 spot. I hope.

G 31
GS 31
IP 197
H 210
W 14
L 12
BB 71
SO 110
ERA 4.35
WHIP 1.43

That's my shot. I was going to try and bump him down to a Rusch role, but frankly it just doesn't look like Miller is going to be able to get himself out of the role and into Marquis' fifth spot.

by hawkeyenation on Mar 5, 2007 9:53 AM CST reply actions

my god

would i take that. the answer of course is hell yes.

Come on over to my house mama, ain't nobody home but me.

by buckmulligan on Mar 5, 2007 12:00 PM CST up reply actions

ha yeah

After I posted it I kept thinking about it while at work and thought about how impossible those numbers really are. If his ERA is south of 4.5 that would be a very good sign. I got caught up in the optimism I suppose. I hope, and think in my heart of hearts, he can and will be league average in that 5 spot. Oh how I hope that happens.....

by hawkeyenation on Mar 5, 2007 12:10 PM CST up reply actions

I don't think

He will be 2007's Rusch at the amount of money they paid, unless he completely sucks.

He'll get his 200 innings - but I have no idea what they'll look like.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 5, 2007 9:58 AM CST reply actions

Unfortunately

I think this projection and Rich Hill's projection are both wildly optimistic.

I'll be happy if Marquis' ERA is under 5.0, but I don't think it's likely.

by salparadise23 on Mar 5, 2007 10:21 AM CST reply actions

Marquis

G 18
GS 12
IP 80
H 120
W 0
L 11
BB 35
SO 20
ERA 9.0
WHIP 1.95 (or so)

by frustratedfan on Mar 5, 2007 10:21 AM CST reply actions

Heh

He's bad, but not that bad.

by salparadise23 on Mar 5, 2007 10:23 AM CST up reply actions

you're an incorrigible, albeit droll knob

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 5, 2007 10:27 AM CST up reply actions

re: Marquis

More numerical sarcasm. I love it!

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 5, 2007 11:26 AM CST up reply actions

meh, it's pretty frivolous

the fact that FF doesn't like Marquis, but has a mancrush on Hill is well documented, and pretty played as far as I'm concerned.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 5, 2007 11:36 AM CST up reply actions

Well, I do credit him for living up to his

screen name....he truly is a "frustrated fan".

Mark William Prior is BACK! This was one Cactus League start and at least he's pitching!

by TheBeerBaron on Mar 6, 2007 12:41 AM CST up reply actions

0-11!

Geez!

That is truly pessimistic!

I just threw up in my mouth.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 5, 2007 11:12 AM CST reply actions

as if they'd just keep trotting him out there

Come on over to my house mama, ain't nobody home but me.

by buckmulligan on Mar 5, 2007 12:01 PM CST up reply actions

It was a REALLY bad idea to sign this chump

What is it with these ego-maniac teams and coaches that want to take the guy with the ERA over 6.00 and say they can fix them? They all want to defy the odds and say, "I told you so."

It would have been much smarter to take a guy with a better track record and stop this madness. They should have went after Padilla instead.

The Cubs will regret this. We're looking at a sub .500 pitcher with a 5.25 ERA if we're lucky.

This signing negates a lot of the other good signings the Cubs made this off season. This signing disgusts me.

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Mar 5, 2007 11:50 AM CST reply actions

yes, negates.

Come on over to my house mama, ain't nobody home but me.

by buckmulligan on Mar 5, 2007 12:02 PM CST up reply actions

As I've pointed out...

Indeed last year was a wreck. BUT La Russa counted on him as the SOLID #2 behind Carpenter for two years in a row. One year was a 100+ win season and NLCS appearance for the team.

Again, LaRussa is many things, but stupid is not one.

I (and Millions of dollars) are betting he'll be at least .500.

We will all have to wait and see.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 5, 2007 1:02 PM CST up reply actions

I agree......

and the shame of it is that with how bad the team was last season, Hendry really couldn't afford to make any throw away signings.

RAMIREZ!! PRIOR!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Mar 5, 2007 1:06 PM CST up reply actions

He's not that terrible of a pitcher

He's just got some mental issues. If he can work those out and LISTEN to people, then he'll probably a servicable innings-eater.

by vegascubsfan on Mar 5, 2007 12:02 PM CST reply actions

Let's ride this horse to the W.S.

G 32
GS 32
IP 210
H 200
W 14
L 10
BB 70
SO 140
ERA 3.95
WHIP 1.286

Hey Lou, we're long overdue.

by deadcatbounce on Mar 5, 2007 12:25 PM CST reply actions

that seems highly unlikely

Everything above is unlikely, but I'm talking about the hits specifically: he's given up more hits than innings pitched almost every year of his career.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 5, 2007 12:31 PM CST up reply actions

Man.

Someone more optimistic than I am. Take note!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 5, 2007 1:29 PM CST up reply actions

the two of you belong in straight jackets

and I might need to sedate frustrated fan.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 5, 2007 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

The funny thing is...

... with these projections all over the place, we're likely to get one that's actually fairly realistic once all the numbers are totalled up.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 5, 2007 1:43 PM CST up reply actions

Re: that seems highly unlikely

Yeah, I know my projections are highly unlikely, and yet it's March, and I am still optimistic. Maybe, he's not a horse. Let's call him a mule, and maybe, just maybe, this mule has a hard-on to show La Russa and the Cardinals that they screwed-up. Wouldn't that be sweet?

Oh, for F**k's sake, somebody find me straight jacket, before I type more stupid stuff!!

Hey Lou, we're long overdue.

by deadcatbounce on Mar 5, 2007 7:01 PM CST up reply actions

here's the logical progression:

If we can't call him a horse, let's call him a mule. But since we can't really call him a mule, let's call him a jackass.

I think our new Jackass will bray his way into a 5+ era this season. If he puts up those kind of numbers, I just don't think he's keeping kosher.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 5, 2007 7:42 PM CST up reply actions

I was thinking...

... of inviting him over for Passover.

But the Cubs will be in Cincinnati that day.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 5, 2007 7:48 PM CST up reply actions

maybe if we spread some rams' blood...

on his doorpost, they will "pass over" him for the rotation.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 5, 2007 8:00 PM CST up reply actions

LMAO

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 5, 2007 8:09 PM CST up reply actions

LMAO, too.

n/t

Hey Lou, we're long overdue.

by deadcatbounce on Mar 5, 2007 8:23 PM CST up reply actions

I can see a reason...

...it's that he is a generally a very bad pitcher.

G 28
GS 20
IP 120.1
H 136
W 5
L 9
BB 49
SO 60
ERA 5.19
WHIP 1.54

by dvdmgsr on Mar 5, 2007 12:26 PM CST reply actions

Marquis 2007

The reason Marquis posted double digit wins the past two seasons is the team he was on, not his 'talent'. I don't see the Cubs offense being able to bail him out the way the Cards did. Signing Marquis was a desperation move motivated by not being able to count on Prior and not wanting to count on a crop of young arms again. His contract must have been offered after one of Hendry's binges.

Marquis is going to eat innings. And batters are going to eat him. Let's hope that in the process, he gives the Cubs enough opportunities to win that the rest of his efforts don't sink the ship.

G: 31
GS: 31
W: 9
L: 14
IP: 196
ER: 110
H: 215
BB: 70
K: 95
ERA: 5.05
WHIP: 1.454

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by Jed Taylor on Mar 5, 2007 4:06 PM CST reply actions