Sick of the Jones bashing
I sat in the right field bleachers today to avoid the wind. It turned out to be a wonderful day, at least as far as the weather was concerned. However, today was the first day I experienced what Jacque Jones has to put up with. Cheap garbage from the stands. In a game featuring three errors by the shortstop, and a rocky first inning by the starter, I was really ticked off by some of the clowns yelling at him. Now, I'm not afraid to boo, but I reserve that for very special occaisions. The chants of "You suck" to our starting right fielder need to end. Jones is what he is, a decent major league outfielder. He'll probably end up with about 25 homers and 85 rbi's. I can live with that if nothing better comes up in trade talks. I'm not sure what Jones could have done today short of going 4-4 with four home runs that would have shut them up. I know this isn't the choir to be preaching to, but I had a four hour drive back home to Iowa City to stew about this.
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This gives me an idea
I have been frustrated with Jacque at times this past year, but for better or for worse he's our right fielder. Although his throws in from the outfield have been awful at times, he's catches what he gets to and has put up decent offensive numbers.
While he is far from stellar, he doesn't deserve all the grief that he has received over the past season.
by mike on Apr 10, 2007 11:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Give the guy a chance, at least.
Stop by LF to say hi, anyway.
by Al on Apr 11, 2007 3:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will
by mike on Apr 11, 2007 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, did you forget?
I hope Al didnt forget about me :(
by Galvan316 on Apr 11, 2007 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely agree.
by NightPutting on Apr 10, 2007 11:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You Have to Realilze
I think the whole Sosa era had a lot to do with that atmosphere...while the tease in 2003 didn't help. It's too bad too. It's just not a very knowledgeable fan base for the most part...obviously without offending many who reside here and attend regularly.
by krummy12 on Apr 11, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think..
by santo for prez on Apr 11, 2007 4:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I think it's worthy.
Yes, the people who did this yesterday may not return. But maybe this will make someone ELSE think twice. I'm glad he posted this.
by Al on Apr 11, 2007 4:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The night before opening day
Of course, I chickened out and didn't do it. :( Arg..
by Sarah Hope on Apr 11, 2007 6:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Next time you see him...
by Al on Apr 11, 2007 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you read
I think it would help if some Cub fans got a Jacque Jones cheering section out there to drown out the bums.
by Josh77 on Apr 11, 2007 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be my imagination,
by Sarah Hope on Apr 11, 2007 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just shyness
by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Apr 12, 2007 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no,
by Sarah Hope on Apr 12, 2007 5:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jj has done exactly as to what is expected of him
by HerrProf on Apr 11, 2007 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Part of it...
by Al on Apr 11, 2007 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
by tbizzle83 on Apr 11, 2007 9:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen
I can't help but think that too many Cub fans or idiots who sit in the right field bleachers are closet racists. I'm somebody who typically pukes when an African American plays the race card. But in the case of Jones I shall vehemently come to his defense because I believe he gets unreasonably shabby treatment in this town.
by BlueMike on Apr 11, 2007 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you're a little over the top...
I do agree with you that Jones has not deserved the poor treatment he's received at times.
by Al on Apr 11, 2007 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
by tbizzle83 on Apr 11, 2007 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
If Wrigley banned the used of cell phones and picture phones the world would be a better place. But just my two cents.
by BlueMike on Apr 11, 2007 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
by krummy12 on Apr 11, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I am commissioner
by mike on Apr 11, 2007 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree as well.
by Al on Apr 11, 2007 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My problem with Jones so far
by SuperContext on Apr 11, 2007 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa whoa
by Fsemi2323 on Apr 11, 2007 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa whoa
Thomas Jefferson doesn't belong in the same hemisphere as a baseball discussion, let alone the same sentence.
Second:
I thought it was spelled 'Woah'. Am I wrong?
Third:
People can voice their opinion all they want, yeah it's their right. However, it reflects poorly upon the fan base, especially when Jones had a pretty solid year last year. If this keeps up, how many players do you think the fans will cost us. Meaning, how many will the 'boo's chase away, and how many players won't want to play here because of the heckling.
Saying that, I'm all for showing your displeasure at boneheaded or poorly executed plays. But booing at a strikeout, or booing and heckling just when he's working in the field is totally out of line. It's as though they are willing that player to fail and enjoying it when he does. Booing Jones when he trots out to the field is not just wrong, it's really moronic.
However, I'm not a big Jones fan, I unfortunately think we need him right now, as he's a lefty and a solid number 5 hitter. Personally, I'm hoping for Pie to be ready by June. Pie becomes the everyday Right Fielder, we move or release Ward, and Jones becomes the primary 4th OF splitting time in both RF and LF, and even some CF. Then Floyd becomes the primary PH and offensive sub for Murton in late game situations, with maybe a start or two a week. I'd like that scenario a lot.
by WittyUserName on Apr 11, 2007 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa whoa
by Rev Gunia on Apr 11, 2007 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
by Fsemi2323 on Apr 11, 2007 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woah Woah Woah (spelled correctly)
It's not the fans place to tell Jones how he is doing. It's Lou's job to give Jones his performance evaluation.
I'm not saying you applaud poor play, but you certainly don't berate him when he just patrolling the field. By all means if he spikes the ball into the dirt, or sends one sailing to the screen and something bad happens as a result (an extra base or a run), then yeah whatever, I don't LIKE the booing at any time, but can accept it then. Just let up guys when their doing their job. If he makes an out on the basepaths, yeah the sucks. But booing every time he comes to the plate, you think that's going to help him hit?
As far as A-Rod is concerned, those fans are displaying a rather significant lack in intelligence. So A-Rod starts heating up to hit ungodly right now (as if 'mortal' A-Rod numbers were 'boo' worthy). If he walks out at the end of the year, it'll be because those booing morons made him dislike the town. By booing they may ending costing themselves the best player in the game. So if Jones heats up and suddenly becomes an All-Star (clearly the booing will make his performance better), why in the hell would he stay and play here? Really, really stupid.
by WittyUserName on Apr 11, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*EDIT*
Just let up on guys when their doing their job.
"If he makes an out on the basepaths, yeah the sucks"
If he makes an out on the basepaths, yeah that sucks
I just really hate misspelling things and such. By the way, how do you edit posts?
by WittyUserName on Apr 11, 2007 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"whoa" is the correct spelling
by buckmulligan on Apr 11, 2007 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woah vs. Whoa
1623, a cry to call attention from a distance, a variant of who. As a command to stop a horse, it is attested from 1843, a variant of ho. As an expression of delight or surprise (1980s) it has gradually superseded wow, which was very popular 1960s.
WHOA:
Working to Halt Online Abuse
Women Halting Online Abuse
Woodin-Stick Horses of America, Inc.
Worldwide Hayabusa Owners Association
Women Horseshoers Of America
Wagner High Online Alumni
Walking Horse Owners Association
Wild Horses of Abaco
Wyoming Homestay and Outdoor Adventures
Wisconsin Hockey Officials Association
Wellstone House of Activism
courtesy of: dictionary.com
Apparently 'whoa' is the correctly spelling of 'whoa'. While 'WOAH' is merely an acronym for a rather surprisingly large number of organizations. I was wrong and apologize. I have some previous writings that I need to amend.
by WittyUserName on Apr 11, 2007 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa
by Fsemi2323 on Apr 11, 2007 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bm for post of the year
by HerrProf on Apr 11, 2007 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all
Secondly, A-Rod and Jacque Jones are two completely different personalities. Rodriguez and Jones handle criticism from the fans completely differently. Rodriguez has been a golden boy from the time he was 13. Jones has been told all his life that he wasn't good enough to play. They take criticism differently.
To take the workplace example one step further, it might motivate the loud, brash ex-football player to do better by the boss giving him a tongue lashing in his office. It would be extremely counterproductive for the same boss to give the same speech to the shy single woman who works in the corner and never talks to anybody. Jones is a lot more of the second person than the first.
by Josh77 on Apr 11, 2007 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wyoming Homestay and Outdoor Adventures
If your boss had to point out unacceptable performance, I would hope that he does it in a respectful way. I would hope that he pulls you aside (outside the earshot of others), critiques your performance--not you as a person--explains why it's unacceptable, then gives you resources on how to do better. If he called you out in front of everybody, odds are he's not a boss you want to be working for. Even though a later poster correctly pointed out that we are not Jones' bosses (Lou is), we might do well to boo an inappropriate effort (lack of hustle) or unacceptable performance (spiking a ball, looking foolish at the plate), but it should be kept to the performance, not booing him meerly for appearing at the ballpark.
I would argue that Rodriguez excelled in spite of the booing fans, not because of it. A later writer is correct in saying that Yankees fans are burning bridges by booing Rodriguez and increasing the potential for sub-par play. Let's not do this with Jones.
by Rev Gunia on Apr 12, 2007 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sub-par play ?
You can boo all you want but people booing Jones don't have a clue and are unknowledgable.
by rlpete on Apr 11, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones 2006 Season
As for the comment about Jones being the Cubs 2nd most consistent hitter last year, it's technically true. The caveat is that last year's team had 2 better offensive players (Lee and Barrett)get hurt. That's kind of like the kid who finishes 2nd in the school spelling bee because half the student body was out with the flu.
by MHef08 on Apr 11, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You hit the nail on the head
Luis
by Luis on Apr 11, 2007 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really is hard to respond
Forget it, it is silly responding to your foolishness.
by cubswin on Apr 11, 2007 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones 2006 season...
- I don't agree with the booing. If you don't like the product, don't buy it.
- Jones by my recollecion was a frustrating consistent offensive porducer...it seemed like he had his 2 HR 4 RBI (big) games when the Cubs lost for example, 14-7 and in games the Cubs lost 4-3 or 5-4 he was hitting into double plays, striking out and generally leaving runners on base at critical times that could have made a difference.
by kcjones on Apr 12, 2007 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Fellow Iowan!
As for Jones, I'd probably cut him quite a bit more slack if he didn't constantly work the count to 0-2 on every single at-bat. And yes, this wouldn't be as much of a problem if he wasn't hitting in the 2nd spot. However, this in no way gives drunken morons in right field bleachers the right to hassle the guy while he's trying to work. That's just stupid.
by jasoniniowa on Apr 11, 2007 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My basement
Part of my frustration is the stupidity of the clowns out there. Jones made a nice hustle play to run in and cover 2nd base and almost had the runner picked off yesterday (I still think they had him). On one play Jones ran over to the line chasing a ball that landed in the stands. Some guy behind me yelled sarcastically "You earned your money today", what is that? He hustled after the ball, and had no play on it. As I said, he is what he is as far as skills, but he deserves better treatment. I have no problem booing lazy, stupid play. But he appears to be hustling, and the numbers will come.
by Nibbles on Apr 11, 2007 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My opinion
by sue369 on Apr 11, 2007 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't understand it...
things he could do to improve: limit his strikeouts, and get the ball into the infield as quickly as possible. he does have to throw people out, as long as he gets the ball in fast.
by buckmulligan on Apr 11, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Booing has increased
1)The bar is now higher, people want to WIN
2)Price of tickets is higher, people think they now have the license to do anything they want
3)Freddie Bynum.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 11, 2007 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Number 3
by Faith plus 1 on Apr 11, 2007 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why mention freddie?
Seriously though, did you feel remorse for saying "you suck!"
not judging you. just wondering :)
by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Apr 12, 2007 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen.
by dfrancon on Apr 11, 2007 11:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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