In defense of Jacque Jones
I just don't understand the hatred. Hatred isn't too strong of a word either. He's a decent complementary player. He's not a star and he's paid comparable to his production. He should be batting 6th but sometimes with injuries, the lineup gets juggled. Let me post some reality from 2006:
RISP: .298
RISP w/ 2 outs: .277
Men on base: .314
Bases loaded: .385
Tie game: .297
Within 1 run: .307
Those were Jones' numbers in 2006. Pretty solid to me. Incidently, last season he hit best in the 6th spot with a .343 average.
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The problem with Jones is
Luis
yeah, i don't mind jones
It is strange.
Jones
And I agree he should be
Note that...
This is a significant improvement over last year. Yes, he has only 1 XBH and no RBI. But those will come.
If he can keep up the BB/K ratio he'll be a much improved player.
This is a required field
- On Base Percentage. Everyone knows this. While we hope, over the course of the season, that Perry and Lou will help rectify this, it remains to be seen. Guys like Jones, as someone stated, are good compliments to a solid lineup. He's a great 6 hitter, and a passable 5 hitter. But with Soriano being the Sesame Street representative for the letter 'K' at the top of order, followed by Jones in the top third, nobody seems to ever be on base for 3-4-5. Jones isn't himself the OBP problem, but he is in no way part of the solution.
- A whole lot of righties. I've seen, mostly on the Cubs message board, 'dream' lineups of all right handed hitters. I haven't bothered to post back to them how terrible that would be. THIS problem falls on the shoulders of Hendry. Simply that all of our good hitters are right handed. This really forces Piniella to play Jones, and now Floyd, almost every day, just to provide some balance. I believe balance is really important.
What I wouldn't give for Murton to be a left handed right fielder. Or for Lee to be a lefty, that'd be pretty good for this team too. Ah well.
yes, gotta have some lefties
by buckmulligan on Apr 16, 2007 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The Lineup
by BlueMike on Apr 16, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions
Ah come on...Jones is not ready for WF prime time
As I look at the lineup it is all screwed up:
Theriot is the leadoff hitter of choice and should be playing SS everyday.
Pie should be playing RF now and batting 2nd, against tough LHP'er play DeRosa in RF.
Soriano should be batting 3rd, I guess he is okay in CF for now.
Lee should be hitting clean up
Floyd playing LF most of the time and bats 5th to give Cubs lineup balance.
Ramirez at 3rd batting 6th gives the Cubs one of the best 3-6 power hitters in the game.
DeRosa at 2nd base except against LHP'ers where Cedeno plays 2nd and bats 8th
Barrett/Blanco catching and batting 8th
My guess is that Cubs trade Jones to KC, WASH, TB or SF and also find a home for Izturis. Bring up Pie and E Patterson and make DeRosa the utility player and begin grooming E-Patterson for a platoon at 2nd.
Some yes and some no
I bat Lee and Ramirez 3-4. No way I throw my best RBI guy #6. The point of LH-RH hitters is a solid concept because most hitters have a strong bias one way or the other. However, that's not the case with Lee and Aram. Ramirez actually has hit for a slightly better average against RH than LH and Lee is only slightly biased towards RH.
As for EPat, he isn't ready yet. Remember that Hendry has the sword of Damocles hanging over his head with new ownership looming. If he begins importing a number of new players in to replace his recent signings, he'll be admitting failure. It ain't gonna happen.
nah
by buckmulligan on Apr 16, 2007 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That whole post makes little sense...
We've got an abundance of outfielders. Let's not get too lured in by Pie's start, and give it some time. Yes, his defense would help, and it looks like his hitting is progressing nicely, but I think we have more to lose by bringing him up too soon, then letting him get another 200 ABs in the minors.
If, like you said, Pie was brought up, then Soriano shouldn't be in center, he should be in right/left. As for hitting position...i think we're somewhat stuck with him leading off. No comment.
If Floyd plays LF all the time, then both Jones and Murton don't play. Hmm...that makes little sense.
Ramirez in the 6th hole is the most ridiculous suggestion in the post. He's always batted for a decent average (and is over .400 now) and is the top RBI man. Do you see Pujols in the 6th spot?
So what, cut Izturis? Not many trading partners at this point. Same with Jones.
I think Barrett's bat should be higher than 8th, but that's debatable.
As for the Patterson suggestion...not so much.
by thekansasian on Apr 16, 2007 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
If Soriano hits anywhere
This lineup is short on lefties, but if neither Floyd nor Jones is hitting in the top 5, then one of them will have to hit eighth (not gonna happen). You don't want your only 2 lefties to hit consecutively, so a righty needs to be in the seven hole.
At the end of the day, if the roster is not very well balanced then you march your best 8 (right or left handed) batters out there with the occasional sub, i.e. Jones vs. LHP.
Which begs the question
Has anyone else
I can think of one throw...
by thekansasian on Apr 16, 2007 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Jones now in CF/OF defense and offense
If Sori injury serious (went out of game in top of 5th) JJ will get his shot now in center, it appears, at least short term.
Why did Lou switch Jones and Murton LF and RF to start the game?? I just don't get it...is the theory that a righthanded thrower (Murton) has better angle with glove in RF?? But Murton doesn't have a good arm, altho maybe better than JJ....none of it makes any sense but the bigger problem has been lack of production/power from OF...how many homers so far? Projected to get 40 from CF, 25-30 from right and another 20-30 from the LF platoon...that's 85 or around there...so far they've got what, 1 from JJ maybe?
Floyd looks like a hitter just drove one in so I'm not giving up, but the main reason Cubs off to that lousy start is lack of OF production. The problem has been a recurring one since '04 and Cubs can't win without solving it or having the players they've got deliver the goods.
by writerinwrigley on Apr 16, 2007 8:31 PM CDT reply actions

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