Open Thread: Cubs vs. Astros, Monday 6/11, 7:05 CT

by Al on Jun 11, 2007 3:43 PM CDT in Game Threads Comment 231 comments

Two notes from my flight home from Atlanta:

TSA decided that the souvenir bat (you know, the 18" kind with a team logo on it, that look like this) that I had bought for Mark was a "weapon" and thus forbidden in carry-on luggage. Mark has a collection of these and I've brought several of them back on planes, all since 9/11, with no trouble -- until today. TSA does forbid sporting goods including baseball bats, but that's not a bat, it's a souvenir. My option was to go back outside the 30-minute-wait security line and check my bag, or to leave the bat with TSA. I left it, but I am filing a claim with them to reimburse me.
Bruce Miles was on my flight; he agreed with the rest of us that given the current climate with HBP's, umpires are expected to be "mindreaders" as to intent, and thus the ejection of Lilly, which he agrees was totally wrong. He also said that had the game gone into extra innings, Jason Marquis would have been able to throw a couple of innings.

Which somehow brings me to tonight's game, which in my opinion shouldn't even have been played tonight. The Cubs, even after having decided originally that the game vs. Houston postponed due to snow on April 11 was to be made up on July 12, changed their minds -- apparently, neither they nor the Astros wanted to give up that "extra" day off after the All-Star break.

Well, waah, waah, waah. Instead they agreed upon today, since the Astros were already in town this past weekend to play the White Sox. What they didn't figure on was ESPN asking for, and getting, yesterday's game for the Sunday night telecast. With the delay after the Ted Lilly ejection and a game that could have been timed with a calendar, I figure the Cubs' sleepy little heads (save Carlos Zambrano's, tonight's starter, who was sent back from Atlanta early to rest up) hit their pillows about 4 am today.

Lesson: be careful what you wish/ask for.

Today's Starting Pitchers


C. Zambrano Cubs	vs.	W. Williams Astros


6-5	W-L	2-7
5.38	ERA	5.79
60	SO	36
37	BB	25
14	HR	13
vs. Hou	--	vs. Cubs

Z has now thrown well in two of his last three starts (save the June 1 Barrett fight meltdown game), and showed real signs of the "old" Z last time out against the Brewers.

Meanwhile, Woody Williams may have reached the end of the line. He has allowed at least two runs in every one of his 13 starts this year; he did throw fairly well in a no-decision vs. the Cubs on Opening Day, April 9. Too bad, in a way, that Michael Barrett will sit tonight -- he's 8-for-17 (.471/.550/.765), with three doubles and a triple, lifetime vs. Williams. Derrek Lee also hits him well (.345/.406/.448 in 29 AB).

The game's relegated to CSN+, as the White Sox had first call on CSN today. The original game date, 4/11, was a WGN date, which means WGN might get another game later in the season. It'll be on Extra Innings, and at the Mediacenter.

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Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Off Topic: Theriot all star!

So Ryan Theriot may not really be All Star worthy just yet... but let's see how many write in votes he can get at short!

by Willgly on Jun 11, 2007 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bummer about the bat.

Good luck on them remimbursing you, unfortunately. I travel(ed)with and carried on a custom cue stick everytime I flew, atleast 45 times and one time out of the blue in Minneapolis , they wouldn't let me carry it on. I didn't have time to check it and since it's a $800+ stick I considered missing my flight and booking another, but I was pressed for time and had to make that flight.

How did Bruce manage to get his mini bat past the checkpoint?

by lemon20pie on Jun 11, 2007 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I've seen...

tennis rackets and a metal-handled lacrosse stick carried on in the past couple of months. The latter looked like you could do some damage with it, if so inclined.

E - N - O - D

by bison on Jun 11, 2007 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

mini bats

I lived in Louisville where you get a mini every time you go through the tour of the bat factory and at the airport there's a big box with all of the mini's that have been confiscated. I always found it a bit ridiculous but that's the way it goes!!

"You would never guess that a little innocent walk like that could lead to two runs" -- Dusty Baker

by KyCubsFan on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually...

And D Lee is Fourth in the NL among 1st baseman... we HAVE to get him into the All Star game!

by Willgly on Jun 11, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

who

is he behind?

by WartburgCub on Jun 11, 2007 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably

Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, and Dmitri Young

"It's a great day for a ball game; let's play two!" -Ernie Banks

by Superman on Jun 11, 2007 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lets go big

I think this game rest on Zambrano. If he can get off to a good start and the offense can snag a few runs early, the Cubs can put this one away.

This game comes at a ridiculas time and would be great to win.

I'm really surprised at the reaction of Penilla last night. I thought for sure he would explode at Lilly's ejection. Sure he was asking the umpire why but kept his temper out of it. That could have been a good thing.

by IOWACUBSFAN on Jun 11, 2007 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't

entertain a great deal of hope for this game, unless the bats go on some sort of explosive tear, and put the game out of reach.

Then again, every time you hand Z abig lead, he tends to let up, so he can have a bit of drama or something.

Fear and Loathing at Turner Field!

by Tekboy on Jun 11, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

re: I don't

Why so little hope? The Astros have been a horrible team. They aren't hitting consistently and Williams hasn't been pitching well.

Time for the Cubs to start dominating the Comedy Central, if nowhere else.

Go Cubs!!!

Justice for Ted Lilly! Justice for Mike Fontenot!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 11, 2007 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Any roster moves imminent?

Has anyone heard about any potentially imminent roster moves?

-Floyd is in Chicago, I believe, although he is on the bereavement list and a move would have to be made in order for him to play.

-Blanco is apparently reacting well to treatment and it looks like he won't require surgery.

-Obviously, the bullpen is a bit depleted after the past two games.

-In the slightly longer term, what should be done about Fontenot? Granted, it's a very small sample size, but in his two brief visits up he's been hitting quite well.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 11, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Aramis to DL, Floyd back

Just reported on ESPN 1000.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 11, 2007 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

15-day DL for Ramirez

He can return June 22nd against White Sox.

by dfrancon on Jun 11, 2007 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good luck getting the bat reimbursed

Something tells me the claim is going to get filed the same place single socks go in the dryer.

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 11, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

aram

they put aram on the DL and Floyd is back

by drodd on Jun 11, 2007 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That sucks.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Jun 11, 2007 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bats...

Last fall I was in Louisville for a horse show, and they had signs up all over the airport saying that mini-bats are prohibited from carry-ons. Can't imagine how many have gotten thrown away there!

by bleedhawkeyegold on Jun 11, 2007 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Go get em

tonight Z

GO CUBS!!!

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Aram to the DL

stinks so hopefully Floyd can come in and swing the bat.

Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 11, 2007 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yikes.... Lineups

Cubs
Soriano LF
Pie CF
Lee 1B
Jones RF
DeRosa 3B
Fontenot 2B
Theriot SS
Hill C
Zambrano P

Astros
Biggio 2B
Pence CF
Berkman RF
Lee LF
Loretta 3B
Lamb 1B
Everett SS
Ausmus C
Williams P

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jun 11, 2007 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

why not

pie
theriot
soriano
lee
zambo
derosa
fontenot
hill
jj

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lineup has...

Jacque batting fourth in right. Gross. Get Floyd's bat in the lineup now that ARam is out.

2007 Badger Football - 1-0 every week...

by Schwa on Jun 11, 2007 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

JJ batting cleanup??

What a joke........

RAMIREZ!! PRIOR!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Jun 11, 2007 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Jock should never bat higher than 7th....

Ever. For anyone.

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Jun 11, 2007 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Jacque........

shouldn't even be playing.

RAMIREZ!! PRIOR!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Jun 11, 2007 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least...

...we're not seeing Jones and Izturis at the same time.

by cwyers on Jun 11, 2007 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aramis question

Does anyone know if the DL listing retro to Friday?

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Jun 11, 2007 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ithin

it's retro to thursday

by anormal on Jun 11, 2007 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think

is what i meant to type. god i'm a terrible typist!

by anormal on Jun 11, 2007 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh man, it's gonna be a long time.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's messed up.

i'd rather see derosa batting cleanup than jones (or theriot or fontentot or soriano or zambrano).

by anormal on Jun 11, 2007 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lost For Words --

If Cliff is back, why didn't Lou start him instead of Jones?
For God's sake and the rest of us, Pagan should be in instead of Jones if Cliff isn't starting.
There is nothing and I mean nothing stopping the front office from releasing JJ if they cannot get a Class A prospect for him.
EAT THE SALARY !!!! -- The guy has done absolutely nothing all year. He should not be in the lineup. He contributes absolutely zero -- 000000 -- to this team.
And while I ranting about eating salaries -- munch on Eyre's as well. PLEEEZZZ stop trotting his lame butt into any more games. There are 3 or 4 guys at the lower level who can't do any worse than him.

by ceegeewow on Jun 11, 2007 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Triple those feelings

If Hendry can't bring himself to admit failure, why does Lou have to compound them by playing these guys. Starting Jones again and placing him at cleanup is like shouting "Where's my Alzheimer's medicine?"

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 11, 2007 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the reality

Is there is no upside here, he doesnt want to be here, he cant hit and unless Floyd is 0-98 against Williams its illogiical outside of that absurd coach / player loyality we saw with dusty.

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Jun 11, 2007 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe defense?

does anybody have jacque's numbers against woody williams? if lee was hitting for power, it wouldn't seem that bad.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'd rather see

soriano
pie
pagan
lee
derosa

etc. try to beat them with speed.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or at least bat z 8th

and throw pagan in the 9 spot. that would be interesting. this is just "well, we're probably gonna lose unless z throws a gem."

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right now

Ernie Banks has as much power as Jones. No. Make that more power.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 11, 2007 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lee will see great pitches...

With protection like that. Then again its Woody Williams, I think he is out of great pitches.

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Jun 11, 2007 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

tommorrow

im headin out to wrigley for the first time this year from out in medinah. i went to milwaukee to see wade miller... ugh... anyways, exactly what happens tommorrow for "Country Music Night"? Go Cubs...

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

man, we needed some insurance

in the eighth last night. that was a killer. and after scoring four runs in the first on saturday. yuck. with aramis gone for awhile, dlee has to get the bat going. i hope he starts splitting the gap in right-center with regularity; that way, jones can move him to third on bouncing balls to the second baseman. hey, maybe jones'll do one of his patented bat flips tonight.

marquis has hit his wall as well. if we can get .500 ball out of him from here out, i would be more than satisfied. this could get difficult: we've got the padres coming in later in the week. we need to win some games now. and the cardinals are about to go play 6 with the royals, so expect them to make a move.

i'm nervous. we really needed to win one over the weekend. dempster...damn it.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Biggio

is a joke. And the idea that the Astros are batting him leadoff is an even bigger joke.

The guy is a Hall of Famer whether he gets those final 20 hits to get to 3000 or not. But the guy who is out there right now has no business being on a major league roster.

It's good for the Cubs that this guy is still playing (and the Astros are still insisting on playing him) but I would hope he'd retire the day after he gets that 3000th hit. It's probably too late for him to retire with his dignity intact, but maybe he can get out without doing any further damage to his reputation. He's like Willie Mays with the Mets in '73.

First ballot Hall of Famer. Crappy ballplayer at the moment.

by Josh77 on Jun 11, 2007 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

no hitter for z

after 1!!! not to mention the perfect game...

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

COUNTRY MUSIC NIGHT

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i'm guessing they have a country music star

throw the ball out, sing the stretch, etc. and a few people probably wear cowboy hats, and so forth.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was thinkin about wearin my

cowboy hat, lol

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought

Len and Bob said last weekend that Kelly Pickler was going to be there. Maybe I heard wrong too.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea,

i knew about that. i was wondering if there was anything special like if they'd be giving away concert tix or anything like that...

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

in 2000

fontenot and theriot were DP partners for championship team at lsu. also together last opening day at AAA iowa.

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

adios to

perfect game, z hits lorreta on back of left arm/rib cage

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

man, lee's batting avg. is plummeting

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i'm really concerned about ramirez

i feel like he's going to be suffering all year.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

About Floyd

I suspect that floyd isn't in the lineup because I read I think on ChicagoSports.com that he was at Wrigley earlier today, but then left to be with his dad. He might not have made it back in time for bp.

by CubmanBamafan on Jun 11, 2007 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That's

what I heard too.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

zambo

no hitter through 2

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

kind of bad form.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Enough of the no-no talk.

2007 Badger Football - 1-0 every week...

by Schwa on Jun 11, 2007 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

too many

3-2 counts for big Z! but if he can keep it up, we should be in good shape. time to get the bats going agaisnt woody williams.

Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 11, 2007 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

of course woody williams has a no-hitter as well

and is having a much easier time of it.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

nice jinx!

by vegascubsfan on Jun 11, 2007 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

did work.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what did u say?

oh, no - hitter, like the thing woody doesnt have anymore... haha

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

still has the shutout....

oh as i'm typing. nice.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sad when

the only guy with life in your lineup with life is just been called up from AAA.

"I threw the ball really well warming up" -Ryan Dempster 5/10/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jun 11, 2007 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

did dempster say that yesterday or in may?

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea that was yesteday

my bad thanks for catching it.

"I threw the ball really well warming up" -Ryan Dempster 5/10/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jun 11, 2007 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fantastic quote.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice wheels

fontenot

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

GEAUX TIGERS!

Fontenot and Theriot!

by Josh77 on Jun 11, 2007 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The Riot

Thats the riot we all know and have come to love!

by CubmanBamafan on Jun 11, 2007 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah!

Let the rookies play!

Fear and Loathing at Turner Field!

by Tekboy on Jun 11, 2007 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I wish

they brought up Soto and not Hill. He hasnt impressed me at all one bit...

PIE!!! GALLAGHER!!! AND THE OTHER YOUNGSTERS!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 11, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Where is Izturis

when you need a 3rd out?

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 11, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Mike can

run. Nice to see the young guys doing well.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

GO CUBS GO!

Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 11, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

come on z. work quickly.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

has berkman already served his suspension?

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

alright. nice work. pitch count an issue however.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

compltley agree...atlhough

hes getting squeezed on some pithces, but he could be a little more efficient, but so far good outing.

Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 11, 2007 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Zambrano

Zambie's pitch count looks like he wont make it much past the 6th, can anyone tell me how he looks, i.e. movement and velocity because im restricted to Gameday

by INWes44 on Jun 11, 2007 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He just slugged one out of the park

Can't tell you how he looks, but nothing wrong with his offense tonight!

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 11, 2007 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ZAMBRANO!!!

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 11, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Z!

We all knew he was a slugger!

by CubmanBamafan on Jun 11, 2007 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ZZZZZZZZ!!!

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

z has some pop.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Zambrano

is a better hitter than Jacque Jones

Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 11, 2007 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

zambrano

Zambie's pitch count looks like he wont make it much past the 6th, can anyone tell me how he looks, i.e. movement and velocity because im restricted to Gameday

he looks pretty good. as always, he has a lot of movement, but has much better command than most outings this year.

as far as his velocity is concerned, his fastball has been between 92-94 consistently while topping out at 97 mph.

by rm463 on Jun 11, 2007 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who is available in the bullpen today?

I'm afraid to ask.

by vegascubsfan on Jun 11, 2007 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

marquism, lilly, gallager

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think you let zambrano go as long

as he's effective tonight, maybe 130 pitches.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Come on Soriano

get back into your groove.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

shoot

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

z's pitch count

he's at 84 after 5, he very well could be at 115 after 6.

by rm463 on Jun 11, 2007 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

great inning

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

pitch count 87

he can get one more, maybe two

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How many more innings for Z?

Probably only 1 more.

by vegascubsfan on Jun 11, 2007 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

probably

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Listen to Larry:

Go Big Red!

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 11, 2007 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Come on JJ

PLEASE!!

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

voodoo.

With Fonzie and Felix, no one can beat us.

by Matt Allison on Jun 11, 2007 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Jones .230

impressive...

by Chanman25 on Jun 11, 2007 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

slow everything down z

get someone warming.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that's something i'd like to see us do...

slow down in these situations. try to throw off the rhythm.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

or get an immediate dp

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

solid outing by Z

7 IP, 0 ER

by Chanman25 on Jun 11, 2007 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

107 pitches. let him go one more

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

107 Pitches

Think he goes another inning?

by broham on Jun 11, 2007 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

send him out there anyway. let him try

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

See what Lou does.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd let him throw more than one

If it takes 140 pitches, so be it. He's done it before with no ill effect.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jun 11, 2007 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if he could get through

the eighth under 120, i'd let him go for the cg.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

On the other hand

If he's going to walk the leadoff man, I say get the bullpen going. I'd let either Lilly or Marquis close the game.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jun 11, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

larry the cable guy

I may burn in hell for saying this, but that may have been the best rendition of take me out to the ballgame all season.

by CubmanBamafan on Jun 11, 2007 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

At least

he was in tune.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He

knew the words and he sang it loud and at a good tempo. That's really all we ask for.

by Josh77 on Jun 11, 2007 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I gotta agree

He had surprisingly good tempo and, besides the obligatory "get 'er done" at the end, he delivered a pretty honest rendition of the song.

Justice for Ted Lilly! Justice for Mike Fontenot!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 11, 2007 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

larry the cable guy

that was funny . . .

by CZ38 on Jun 11, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i'll be shocked if z doesn't continue

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i like this fonty guy

by CZ38 on Jun 11, 2007 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

i wish he could have done something last night in the eighth.

not a good start to the inning for z.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

need the double play.

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

uh oh. slow down z.

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The Curse of the Eighth

might be striking again.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 11, 2007 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

god, the cubs always do this late.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

y is he still in?

I dont understand this, I saw the game last night but this seems like asking to give up at least one run, all year he has lost his effectiveness after 100

by INWes44 on Jun 11, 2007 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the pen needs rest

they've pitched about 16 innings the past two days.

by SouthernCub on Jun 11, 2007 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

strike him out.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

damn it

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

gave them a run.

man, we just give away too many runs.

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

For the record

Carlos Zambrano has not gone the full nine innings in a game since Sept. 18, 2005.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jun 11, 2007 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he won't tonight either.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

128 pitches Youch.

by Arbusto on Jun 11, 2007 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I said

He's thrown more than that on other occasions. The guy is a horse. He could throw 160 if he needed to. (And would do that often if he didn't play in the current era)

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jun 11, 2007 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes.

one more z.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Woohoo

Come on Z!

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i hope z

wont go after fonty . . .

by CZ38 on Jun 11, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

gameday sez 124 pitches.

yowza

With Fonzie and Felix, no one can beat us.

by Matt Allison on Jun 11, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

watch the first pitch.

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

no walks.

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

unbelievable

with how many balls he's thrown

by Chanman25 on Jun 11, 2007 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG

wow.

With Fonzie and Felix, no one can beat us.

by Matt Allison on Jun 11, 2007 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank you Soriano!!

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

anyone who saw it?

can you describe the catch? just got home from dinner and only have gameday.

by Mr Snrub on Jun 11, 2007 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it was deep...a couple steps from the ivy

i only have pat and ron though. pat didn't give it the homerun sound.

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks

on gameday it was in the basket! whew!

by Mr Snrub on Jun 11, 2007 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i know it looked like it was gone

on gameday. i about lost my dinner.

by bennyha on Jun 11, 2007 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes. standing ovation time!!!!!!!!!11

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

what happened?

can't watch game.

by Chanman25 on Jun 11, 2007 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

deep fly out to soriano.

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

z also lowered his era

to 4.99 :)

by CZ38 on Jun 11, 2007 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

boy do we need some insurance.

gotta win this game.

With Fonzie and Felix, no one can beat us.

by Matt Allison on Jun 11, 2007 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that was a hell of a performance.

let's get some runs and nail down this win for the guy. wow.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Great job tonight

I've got to hand it to El Toro. He went out and did the job we needed him to do - 8 innings with no earned runs. And if he hadn't thrown nearly 130 pitches, there's no doubt he'd be going back out there for the 9th.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jun 11, 2007 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

soriano needs to park one on waveland.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

let Z bat

he deserves it

by Chanman25 on Jun 11, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wind blowing out now.

bobby's gotta close it down.

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by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Come on...

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

fucking dempster.

i'm gonna be sick.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Demp

SUCKS!

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

man...this sucks.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

fast game

only 2:02 elapsed so far.

With Fonzie and Felix, no one can beat us.

by Matt Allison on Jun 11, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dumpster coming in....

Hopefully he can close it out or he will blame the offense for not scoring or Z for letting that run in last inning. Maybe he won't blame Z, he doesn't want a facial.....

by LT on Jun 11, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I should make more predictions

like that

by LT on Jun 11, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He blamed

himself last night.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not according to this article....

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=270610115&prov=ap

Maybe he was misquoted.

by LT on Jun 11, 2007 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bob and Len

said they talked to him today and he took all the blame.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe if he blows it tonight

they'll send him away.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hold your breath...

Cub Nation.

But I have faith. Let's go Demps!

2007 Badger Football - 1-0 every week...

by Schwa on Jun 11, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i have no faith.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Z's ERA

4.89

by INWes44 on Jun 11, 2007 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i can't believe it

isn't he tired. put bobby in there. they really booed dempster when they announced him. rightfully.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Howry threw...

2 innings last night... he's bound to be more tired.

by SouthernCub on Jun 11, 2007 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'd much rather see z at 150 pitches.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

2 more

With Fonzie and Felix, no one can beat us.

by Matt Allison on Jun 11, 2007 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bad feeling

that CLee is going yard... Hope nobody is on...That dude kills us...

by LT on Jun 11, 2007 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

IDK

If Dempster nails it down, he still blows and needs to go.

Pie Rules.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

this is going to be a damn tough save

to get. pence, berkman, and lee isnt exactly easy.

by bennyha on Jun 11, 2007 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Classic Dempster

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

now he'll give up a bomb.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

cubs win

dumpster almost got in trouble again . . .

by CZ38 on Jun 11, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ESPN

Just gave an update. That didn't like any problem at all.

by Arbusto on Jun 11, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

can someone give me an update

My Gameday is not updating I can only see Soriano flying out to tend the 8th

by INWes44 on Jun 11, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Same here

by Arbusto on Jun 11, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thank you God

With Fonzie and Felix, no one can beat us.

by Matt Allison on Jun 11, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What?

A DP by demp? I must be dreaming.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

DP!

Cubs Win! Screw you Dempster Haters!

2007 Badger Football - 1-0 every week...

by Schwa on Jun 11, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

whew.

great win. i still have no faith in dempster.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

well good for you

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeahh

i have 0 faith in dumpster . . .

by CZ38 on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey,

Dumpster needs to go to the dumpster.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

update

Pence flew out to Pie.
Berkman walked on a 2-2 then 3-2 count.
C.Lee hit into a D.P. but he was looking to hit one to Lake Michigan.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not sure...

what relevance that last line has. Of course he was looking to hit a bomb. But he didn't, did he?

Great win. Zambrano gave the team the kind of performance we needed after two long outings for the pen in a row, and then Dempster bounced back to get the save after failing the team last night.

Now hopefully the team can get going again.

by SouthernCub on Jun 11, 2007 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm glad

to see Dempster rebound.

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Possibly

if he would have just been trying to get a hit, things may have turned out differently.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

can you break down the last half inning?

gameday is stuck.

by carolinacubbie on Jun 11, 2007 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

nevermind!

by carolinacubbie on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I did

n/t

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fantastic, 5.5 back

we need to stick it to the mariners.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

a one run victory

wow, a special treat!

by LT on Jun 11, 2007 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

good win

Big Z came up big and dempster needed to get right back onthe horse.

Imagine after how Z pitched if Demp blew that one. He he

white flag time boys and girls

6-01-2007 the Cubs begin to rise. They will never look back.

by Scott G F on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Me too

I have absolutely no faith in Demp, cuz he got lucky Lee didn't hit one to the moon.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good Lord

Can't some of you people ever be happy?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 11, 2007 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really

sad isn't it?

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can get

as Cubbie morose as the next guy, but give credit where it's due.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 11, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He and Buck won't let it go.

Two blown saves on the year, and apparently those two think they can do better. Especially the brainiac who said to leave Zambrano pitching to 150 pitches. Good call there genius.

"Not true at all. Vaseline is manufactured right here in the United States." - Don Sutton, about the rumors that he uses a foreign substance on the ball

by Orangeman94 on Jun 11, 2007 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey, i'm down on dempster.

look at all the people who bash jones and barrett. i'm not confident when the guy is in there, and i don't think we can win long term with dempster closing. he seems like a good guy, but i don't trust him. i thought he was lucky tonight. he simply does not have sufficient command of his pitches, and i think he overthrows. i much rather see howry get a shot, and i'd also feel more comfortable with a gassed zambrano, especially tonight.

for what it's worth, i was at the mets game where dempster imploded and blew the 5-1 lead, so i'm sure that has something to do with my feelings concerning him.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice win!

way to cubbies wasnt a pretty game by any means but a great performance from z nice to see him turning the corner

by bennyha on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

z with the performance of the year.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

is he back?

maybe he just needed to beat someone's face in. maybe it's k.hill.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 11, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

very, very big win.

This team has seen some real ugliness this year, and they always seem to bounce right back after the ugly losses with a big win like this. And a 1-run win, at that. They're showing real resiliency.

With Fonzie and Felix, no one can beat us.

by Matt Allison on Jun 11, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

so what the hell's going on?

Did the Cubs win? Because Gameday shows the 9th, so does mlb.com and espn.com, so what gives?

by DTJchris on Jun 11, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Quit checking with those losers....

the Cubs won!

by LT on Jun 11, 2007 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cubs Win!!!

Congrats to Big Z, RYAN DEMPSTER and the rest of the team. Great way to start the homestand.

Justice for Ted Lilly! Justice for Mike Fontenot!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 11, 2007 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

biggest start of z's career?

I'm having a hard time thinking of another where he was this clutch.

by elgato on Jun 11, 2007 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I

kinda wanted to see Z beat in Demps face.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What the hell

is wrong with you?

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's great!

now go away...

by DTJchris on Jun 11, 2007 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I

kinda wanted to see a win.

by elgato on Jun 11, 2007 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I

kinda thought this site was for Cub fans. Go away.

"Not true at all. Vaseline is manufactured right here in the United States." - Don Sutton, about the rumors that he uses a foreign substance on the ball

by Orangeman94 on Jun 11, 2007 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

what your signature says.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jun 11, 2007 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Be Happy

We got a huge win, and Dempster rebounded! GO CUBS GO!

Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 11, 2007 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm happy!

It's hard being a Cubs fan day in and day out.

by sue369 on Jun 11, 2007 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Z hittin 95, 96, & 97 on the gun tonight

1-RUN GAMES = 3-13 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-5 | HOME = 11-17

by SackMan on Jun 11, 2007 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How bout it

where are all the members of the Zambrano's hiding an injury camp?

"I threw the ball really well warming up" -Ryan Dempster 6/10/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jun 11, 2007 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He changed speeds big-time tonight

Hitting the fastball most often at about 93 in the mid innings... and then slowing things down to 83, and even in the high 70's at times.

1-RUN GAMES = 3-13 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-5 | HOME = 11-17

by SackMan on Jun 11, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was a little surprised...

to see Dempster hit 95-96 consistently.

"Not true at all. Vaseline is manufactured right here in the United States." - Don Sutton, about the rumors that he uses a foreign substance on the ball

by Orangeman94 on Jun 11, 2007 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like

the new Z

Z 2.0?

"I threw the ball really well warming up" -Ryan Dempster 6/10/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jun 11, 2007 9:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fonteot is a nice change from Izuseless

Too bad Izuseless makes like $4 or $5 mil. When A-Ram gets back, would love to see a middle infield of Theriot & Fontenot vs lefties... and Theriot & DeRosa vs righties.

1-RUN GAMES = 3-13 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-5 | HOME = 11-17

by SackMan on Jun 11, 2007 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs