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Cubs' Kids!!

I don't recall so many kids stepping up for the Cubs since Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith in 1989...

Quick question for the prospect experts..  Can Fontenot play SS??  Imo Theriot will be around .250 by July, so hopefully Fontenot's ready to step-in.  

Although Theriot and Murton aka Mark Grace aren't as great as some thought, Pie, Marshall, Hill and Marmol have really picked up the team.  It appears Guzman, Pagan and Fontenot could really contribute too.

I believe!

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DeRosa...
... could play SS if necessary.

Fontenot's not this good, but they've got to ride this hot streak as long as it lasts.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 15, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

True...
Is he better than Theriot tho?  Seems Theriot will continue sliding downward..
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Jun 15, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's historically better...
but it's close.  Fontenot was drafted higher, had a better career early in the minors.  Theriot did better the last 2 years, but Fontenot emerged in AAA this year.  I'd say they're similar in overall quality but with different skill sets.  Fontenot has a bit more pop, Theriot has more speed and plays more positions.

And I don't know that Theriot will play much worse.  His minor league numbers suggest about a .270/.340/.350 type of hitter with 20+ SB.  He's right about there right now.

by SouthernCub on Jun 15, 2007 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot's problem
of late is that he is hitting nearly everything in the air, which is not "dancing with the one that brung him", so to speak.

He needs to go back to hitting line drives, and his numbers will go right back up where they belong.

Fear and Loathing at Turner Field!

by Tekboy on Jun 16, 2007 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fontenot: ghost of the Steve Dillard Streak
He wasn't exactly a kid, and his career ended two years later, but there isn't a Cub fan around who cannot forget the 1979 phantom menace ol Stevie was that year. Who can forget it?

For about 8 weeks that summer, he had a Feenom-inal ride, and was one of the hottest hitters in the NL. That dude just seemed to zero in on everything that got thrown at him. Between him, Buckner and Kingman, we almost got fooled into thinking we had a snowball's chance that year (but after 1977, I had no illusions ..)

I hope we enjoy Fonty's work longer than Stevie's. The streak ended by September ..  

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 15, 2007 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know...
... I hadn't remembered this, but cubnational is right.

From August 3 to September 9, 1979, a period of about five weeks, Dillard hit .311/.362/.491 in 106 at-bats; he had four doubles, five HR and 18 RBI in that period of time. All of this was WAY above his career averages (.243/.295/.343), and those 5 HR were more than 1/3 of his career total of 13.

Well remembered!  

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 15, 2007 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok ... it was more like a month ..
... but boyoboy, it seemed like it would last forever. Al, you had to see it believe it. Right now, Monsoor Fontenot (who was playing 2B just as Dillard did) is a reincarnation of those good ol' daze. May he burn longer!

On my raggedy old mitt, the one that made me a Cub fan is the barely visible scrawl of a Steve Dillard autograph. I can't ever forget that streak .. one of the dozens of transitory flashes of glory that would occasionally illuminate the black interstellar void of Cubs baseball from about 1978 to 1983, when Cubs baseball finally began to get fun again.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 15, 2007 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know...
... I DID see that streak, as I attended quite a few games in that era. Just don't quite remember him specifically doing that, though I do see that 1979 was his "outlier" good year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 15, 2007 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Theriot...
...seems to have been the victim of regression to the mean, or in this case his underlying talent level. (His current batting line on the season is eerily similar to his PECOTA weighted-mean projection.) That said, I don't forsee him dropping much further than he has, and he could even bounce back a bit. His line drive percentage would indicate a higher batting average than what we're seeing, so it seems like he's being robbed of a few hits here and there. (Luck COULD even out, but then again it could not.)

That said, right now Ryan Theriot right now is essentially right at the league average in AVG and OBP, and a shade below in slugging. That's not all that bad, and still more valuable than Cesar Izturis's production by quite a bit. That said, DeRosa's higher slugging and OBP means he should probably see most of the playing time at the keystone when Ramirez returns.

With Mike Fontenot... if you just ignore the results, and look at what he's doing at the dish (strikeouts, walks, batted balls -- line drives vs. fly balls vs. ground balls), you start coming to the conclusion that he's just a much luckier version of Koyie Hill offensively. He's going to have to start backing up his awesome production here soon, or I would forcast a severe regression for him here soon.

If I had to choose, I'd say Theriot is the one of the pair more likely to have long-term success in the majors at this point. But a year ago I'm sure I would have written both of them off completely.

[For those curious, you can look at the Hardball Times' Projected OPS page, which shows you how much guys are over/underperforming their perhipials. (Helpfully filtered out to show you only Cubs.) It's possible to overanalyze this a bit -- guys who stick in the majors for a while have a tendency to outperform their perhiphials over the course of their careers, so don't start freaking out and thinking that Derrek Lee is due to lose 115 points of OPS any day now. But just take a gander at the entries for Fontenot versus Cedeno for a little while.]

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jun 16, 2007 12:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Qualifications on the link?
Change the team to ALL, and guess who pops up with the highest projected OPS??

No seriously, guess first.  I'll give you a hint, it's an ex-Cub.

Augie Ojeda.

You need to pick the 'qualified' option to get rid of small sample sizes.

If Theriot could get his OPS back up to about .700, and Fontenot could regress only down to maybe .730 (where Barrett is now), it would be a very acceptable middle infield for a bargain price.

by Invalid User on Jun 16, 2007 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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