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Anatomy of a Bench-Clearing Brawl

I live in San Diego and am a partial-season ticket holder.  I was born and raised in Chicago as a Cubs fan, and have remained to this day.  I do enjoy baseball in general and going to Petco Park is a family endeavor for us, and I have pretty much raised my daughter as a Padres fan and my wife has adopted the team.  I have always said I am 95% Cubs fan and 5% Padres, although after this incident I would put it more like 99% to 1%.

At any rate, I thought it would be fun to lay out exactly what went into this bench-clearing brawl, since I predicted it to my wife on Saturday morning long before the game even started based on some comments made in the San Diego newspaper by a couple of the Padres.  So here is a description of what happened that resulted in two of the most universally liked guys in baseball coming to blows at Wrigley Field.

This all started with Alphonso Soriano's home run in Friday's game.  I would like to just embed the relevant videos here, but any MLB video that ends up on YouTube is almost immediately brought down due to MLB's copyright thugs (but that's another story).  At any rate, if you go to MLB/Cubs' Multimedia Center and click on the 6/15/07 Cubs/Padres Game, and then "Top Plays" and then on the right of the pop-up box "Soriano homers" you can see it there.  Note carefully Soriano's reaction to the home run, which was to take a few steps backward.  I don't like this kind of stuff, and am no fan of what Soriano has brought (or more accurately, not brought) to the Cubs, but it is pretty commonplace in today's game (think of Bonds' strut or Sosa's hops, for example).

Now we move to the San Diego Union Tribune's article entitled Strutting Soriano infuriates Padres, wherein Padres' pitcher Jake Peavy makes the following comment regarding Soriano's backward steps after hitting his home run:

I didn't appreciate that. Just play the game. They pay him $136 million to hit home runs. They don't pay him to be a circus act on the field. If I think a player shows me up like that, I like the next guy to take one in the stinkin' ribs. That way, his teammate will let him know about it, (he) will tell him, 'Hey, you'd better run the bases.'

I was really shocked when I read this.  How do you think the Cubs felt about it on Saturday morning when they read or heard about it?  It's like throwing gasoline on a small spark, there is sure to be an explosion.  It was at this point I immediately turned to my wife and said there would be a bench-clearing brawl at Wrigley today and that I would blame Peavy.  I do think that putting one in the ribs is a part of baseball, but you don't "predict" it, which puts your next pitcher in an awful tough jam if he accidentally comes inside.  

So now we fast forward to Wrigley Field on Saturday afternoon with the Cubs' best hitter and one of the most well-liked and respected guys in baseball, Derek Lee, coming to the plate.  If the Padres' theory is, as Peavy described, that you hit not Soriano but rather another player, Derek Lee is probably the one they are going to hit, since he is the Cubs' best hitter.  Sure enough, Young fires one headed straight for DLee's head.  You can see the pitch and the entire resulting fight by again visiting MLB/Cubs' Multimedia Center.  This time, click on the 6/16/07 game and again click on Top Plays and, if it doesn't come up right away, click on "Benches clear in Chicago" on the right.  

If you notice, DLee was headed toward first base before the fight broke out.  He said something to Young, and Young said something back, and whatever Young said it immediately set DLee off.  I believe from various replays I have seen that Young said something along the lines of "just go to first base."  That doesn't seem to me like something someone says if they didn't intend to hit someone.  Nobody knows but Young and maybe some of the Padres if they had intended to hit someone, but from Young's reaction combined with Peavy's asinine comments I see no way of coming to any other conclusion than that Chris Young threw at Derek Lee's head as a way of "retaliating" for Soriano's few backward steps after hitting a home run.

So, on one side, we have a bit of irritating showboating.  On the other side, we have someone that could literally be messing with one of the most well-liked guys in all of baseball's livelihood.  A ball to someone's head could end their career.

I used to be a big fan of Peavy, but have lost all respect for him.  I have lost respect for Young as well, which is a shame because he seemed like a class act and is a Princeton grad, which is pretty cool.  I could maybe accept it as an accident if not for Peavy's comments and Young's apparent taunting of Derek as Derek walked clearly in the direction of first base.

I imagine MLB suspensions will be coming down later today.  I am sure DLee will get a suspension but I hope the league takes into account his reputation and at least equally punishes Peavy and Young for their roles in this disgusting display.

I am headed to Petco Park on Friday for the Red Sox game, and will proudly wear my Cubs hat and Derek Lee t-shirt.

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I like the representaiton!
I think speculation has Young saying something like, "Take your base ___".  

I only wish Lee's punches didn;t look so pathetic.  I guess it's hard to hit a 6'11" Ivy Leaguer.

He's a tool and I enjoyed booing him all the way down the ramp to the clubhouse!

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jun 18, 2007 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

If you watch the replay
After the initial barage of lame punches from Lee and Young, Lee had a clear path to Young and he kind of went around and ducked behind Piniella so he couldn't get to him.  That kind of tells me Lee was out of his element, and was probably wondering what he was doing out there.

It's hard to say whether Young threw at him on purpose, but I will say that even if he was trying to pitch inside, he missed his spot by a bunch.  

I was a little surprised the Cubs didn't nail anyone after the game got out of hand on Sunday.  The Braves ended up getting the better of the issue in Atlanta, and the Padres got the better of it this past week as well.  Bad Karma?  I guess we will see.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jun 18, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peavy's comments
I took Peavy's comments to be that, if it were him, he would have hit the next batter after Soriano's homer.  I didn't take it as him advocating that somebody be hit the next day.
"Don't think; it can only hurt the ball club."

by Jesse Guam on Jun 18, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

filling in the blank
a writer from the site i write for www.insiderbaseball.com said he reviewed the tape for quite a while and came to the conclusion that Young said "Take your base __" and the blank was the "N-word"

Now I wasn't able to check since i had deleted the fight on my DVR so I cannot confirm this, but that would make me understand Lee's reaction a little bit better that went from fairly calm and walking up the 1b line to irate and firing haymakers

Again, its speculation and I havent seen it printed or suggested anywhere else, but i thought i'd throw it out there

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 18, 2007 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

that's ridiculous
if he said that it would be a much bigger story and Lee wouldn't be silent about it.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Jun 18, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea
he most liekly didnt say that. But right before lee throws the punch it looks like young says , "hey im not throwin" then they start swinging like school girls

by Kchance on Jun 18, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that's what he said
Young will get drilled by some other team down the line.  

I doubt that is what was said, because it probably would have leaked out by now.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jun 18, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont disagree
i couldn't see how this information wouldn't get leaked if it was in fact what happened

and i cant imagine how any MLB player would say something like that given the impact it would have on his own teammates

like i said it was pure speculation written by a writer on the site i write for

i, myself, am extremely skeptical of the assertion but figured i'd mention someone else's theory about it and see if anyone else had heard the same thing

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 18, 2007 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally ridiculous
Chris Young wrote his thesis on Jackie Robinson.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/jackie/news/story?id=2832713
There is no way in heck he said that word
Tell me Gerald, what is this "walk" you speak of?

by Ross on Jun 18, 2007 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

re: Totally ridiculous
I agree. If he said that word, and anyone else besides Lee heard him, he'd probably be suspended indefinitely.

Most people seem to think he used the word "bitch."

Mountie: I do not approve of your methods!

Ness: Yeah, well... You're not from Chicago.

by daver on Jun 19, 2007 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

By all accounts
Young is a decent guy. And we all know that Lee is among the best men in baseball.

Both of these guys, unfortunately, got caught up in the pressure of the moment. I'm sure Young heard from all the Pads how they'd been shown up. He was almost compelled to throw at someone and Lee is the man in the lineup.

What Young did wrong was throw high to Lee. And then instead of staying on the mound and keeping his mouth shut he took a few steps towards the plate. Lee was hyped up but he never should have charged Young.

So in the end, we'll lose Lee for maybe 7 days and the Pads probably won't lose anyone. Too bad the umps from the previous series weren't at Wrigley. There would have been warnings and Young would have been tossed immediately and Lee would never have been involved with the fight.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 18, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

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