Cubs trade for Bowen
While at the Cubs BCB game on Saturday I told Al that the Padres catcher Rob Bowen was the nephew of my boss and that I wanted him to do well, but with the Cubs still winning. Well, its 7:30 a.m. here and my boss said he just got a call from his sister and that Rob Bowen has been traded to the Cubs. I can not find out who for because I havent seen it announced yet. Just thought I would give everyone a heads up.
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Thsi is a horrible trade...
by dtpollitt on Jun 20, 2007 7:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if it is horrible...
I will need someone to explain to me why the Padres, leading their division, would want Barrett. They already have Bard behind the plate and Gonzalez at 1st.
by N Oakley on Jun 20, 2007 7:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're jumping the gun
by Rev Gunia on Jun 20, 2007 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Indytaz has a good reputation with me, so I'm taking this at face value. But I'm surprised it's not been reported by the MSM yet.
by zambranofan on Jun 20, 2007 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd agree.
Good deal, actually, if true.
by Al on Jun 20, 2007 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
by Ghost of Fred Merkle on Jun 20, 2007 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowen's also
by Rev Gunia on Jun 20, 2007 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 20, 2007 8:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Classic Hendry move
If the deal is for Jones, I'd call it a good trade for both teams and both players.
by zambranofan on Jun 20, 2007 8:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
one thing to consider
I agree though, at this point Bowen for Jones I'm happy with.
I guess we'll play the "wait and see game"
by jonpyardi on Jun 20, 2007 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just heard
by tbizzle83 on Jun 20, 2007 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bruuuuuuce Miles?
Where's our caped superhero of inside information when we need him!?!?
Quick...somebody find the red phone.
by Ghost of Fred Merkle on Jun 20, 2007 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Padres are sending
by dfrancon on Jun 20, 2007 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But this Ken Rosenthal
by dfrancon on Jun 20, 2007 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the story
by Rev Gunia on Jun 20, 2007 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For reference
http://www.milb.com has current year stats and descriptive pages for all active minor leaguers.
by zambranofan on Jun 20, 2007 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming this is true
by mike on Jun 20, 2007 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burke
by zambranofan on Jun 20, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
by Al on Jun 20, 2007 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
By the way, Burke signed last June 16. He was not eligible to be traded until a full year had passed. Maybe Hendry has been working on this one a while.
by zambranofan on Jun 20, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burke
Toolsy guy who set a lot of records in TN HS ball. I think he'd do better in Boise (and he'd still be young for Boise, which is mostly college guys.)
by Josh77 on Jun 20, 2007 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That seems fine to me...
by Al on Jun 20, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
As of now, I guess this tells you what Barrett's value is. Nothing. However, I guess they assume that Barrett's an upgrade over what they have -- offensive-wise. However, I'm looking forward to piss-head Jake Peavy starting to sizzle when Barrett lets one of his sinkers get away in a crucial situation.
And, in turn -- the Cubs pitchers better keep throwing over to first to bail out Bowen.
I can guarantee that Maddux will designate Josh Bard as his personal catcher.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 20, 2007 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
By all accounts
by cubsbak on Jun 20, 2007 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you mean 'defensive'
I have probably watched more Padres games than most of the posters here, and both of the Padres catchers (and I mean Bard and Bowen) can't throw.
I've seen so many bounced throws to second from that tandem and I doubt that is the fault of Maddux or Wells.
We are trying to spin this in our favor, and I find that to be a futile exercise. Bowen isn't very good -- this was a dump of Barrett for anybody.
I don't think we could have expected much more for Barrett, however.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 20, 2007 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how many games
by cubsbak on Jun 20, 2007 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stealing on the pitcher
...ok, maybe not that last comment.
by jrm78 on Jun 20, 2007 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
Barrett has the potential to rebound and get streaky with his hitting. You don't trade a guy when he is at rock bottom, especially someone with Barrett's potential.
by nickler on Jun 20, 2007 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Except
by cubsbak on Jun 20, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's too bad.
by nickler on Jun 20, 2007 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that, in a nutshell
But teams don't keep players around because they are nice guys. From a pure baseball perspective, I think the trade was a good one for the Cubs.
by SuperContext on Jun 20, 2007 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I believe the Cubs are a much better baseball team today than they were yesterday.
by cubsbak on Jun 20, 2007 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barrett was done here,
In all, this is a good move for the Cubs, the Padres, and Barrett himself. He gets a change of scenery and fresh start with a new pitching staff. The pressure is off of him a little now. The Cubs get a defensive upgrade and a guy who's going to stick around for a couple years (Barrett was going to be gone at the end of the season anyway), and the Padres get to try their hand at turning around a guy who was pretty good at the plate.
It's a trade that makes sense for all involved.
by Rev Gunia on Jun 20, 2007 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget baserunning
by gsblake on Jun 20, 2007 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Despite what Hendry says,
Our team ERA is ranked 5th in the NL. Other than San Diego and LA, no team in the NL has given up fewer runs than the Cubs. But we had to trade our catcher? Barrett had become the whipping boy and a victim of groupthink.
We need hitting and Barrett was finally starting to show some life at the plate. Not a fan of this trade, and I remain convinced that this was Lou's doing.
by Matt Allison on Jun 20, 2007 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
by cubsbak on Jun 20, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
by Matt Allison on Jun 20, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you post things twice?
I don't see how Sweet Lou getting rid of a terrible catcher qualifies as "groupthink". I know you love Barrett, but some of us who understand the game of baseball have recognized that he's been killing the Cubs for years. I'm happy that it's finally become obvious to others on this site, but this move has nothing to do with "groupthink". It has to do with improving the Chicago Cubs.
by cubsbak on Jun 20, 2007 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I post
by Matt Allison on Jun 20, 2007 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
by cubsbak on Jun 20, 2007 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
by nickler on Jun 21, 2007 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm responding
by cubsbak on Jun 21, 2007 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does
by tbizzle83 on Jun 20, 2007 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
by cubbyblue137 on Jun 20, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano's deal
by Josh77 on Jun 20, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our offense needs help!! now more than ever
they are going to have to add offense since this offensive-tailored team really hasn't produced...we're below avg. at rf (big gap there), c now, ss and 2b...cf is undetermined.
their biggest off-season need remains a SS and now maybe a capable C...I dunno who/what's gonna be available, but Barrett's defense was a big liability...lost them so many games, and then lost the pitcher's confidence, he had to go.
But that offensive hole--remember, the Cubs batted him 4th on occasion--will need to be filled, somehow. RF and SS look like the most likely spots, there aren't a lot of great hitting C's around anymore....
by writerinwrigley on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, this sucks.
by buckmulligan on Jun 20, 2007 12:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Posada? Lo Duca? Pudge? Anyone Anyone?
Hendry you should be reading this.
by Galvan316 on Jun 20, 2007 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not Pudge
by gsblake on Jun 20, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
two of which who are getting very old
by Chanman25 on Jun 20, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take...
by vegascubsfan on Jun 20, 2007 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree on Posada
by gsblake on Jun 20, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
Good deal overall. The Cubs lead the league in idiotic plays and Barrett was a big reason why. This will help team chemistry.
by CubFaninCA on Jun 20, 2007 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've concluded
by zambranofan on Jun 20, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Barrett should still be a Cub....
Patterson, Sosa and Barrett have all thrived while the only servicible thing the Cubs have to show from these trades is Mike Fontenot...yikes.
by thedaddy23 on Jun 20, 2007 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
uh.. thrived?
2007 BAL 205 23 43 1 17 12 12 .2098 .2613 .2878
patterson is really tearing it up... shoulda held on to him, huh?
by seanlovescubs on Jun 20, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For defense, Ausmus or someone like that...
The Braves have 2 good young catchers they don't seem to want to part with however unless they're BLOWN away, by what, i dunno...
Who else besides the obvious FA's big-names/old & declining types might fill the bill?
I for one would welcome A.J. to the North Side but know he's under contract for another year to Sox...Cubs need to upgrade offense in RF and SS if they're going to go with a defensive-minded C for sure.
by writerinwrigley on Jun 20, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This was strictly a dump
At this point, both parties may be better off with Barrett elsewhere---and being as how he caught Maddux last year, I doubt Mad Dog will say anything now, whoever suggested such. And while we may have gotten a prospect in return, the Bowen part of it's a little troubling for two reasons. 1) Our current ML-catchers have both been released twice in what, the last three years? Does this bother anyone else? 2) I think this shows that Blanco's injury is worse than previously believed. If he was going to be back soon, you would probably trade Barrett and promote Soto until Henry was back. Getting a backup catcher makes it look like Henry won't be back anytime soon.
It would have been nice to have gotten Linebrink or one of their other relievers. Actually, I like any deal at this point that gets us somebody that makes sense.
by JDay on Jun 20, 2007 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting point by Al
"I will say that he's done a good job handling the best pitching staff in the NL."
I find that interesting. If I have the best pitching staff in the NL, I imagine I would give my cathers a degree of credit for it and not be especially inclined to throw a potential monkey-wrench into the situation by trading one cather for another. I wonder if the Padres know something about Bowen that we don't...personality-wise, team-chemistry-wise, or other-wise.
Hmmmmmmm.....
by Rev Gunia on Jun 20, 2007 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blanco
by lepard2099 on Jun 20, 2007 5:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Minor league catchers mixed bag
I agree Blanco's short-term outlook is not good, and unless they've made a steal with this switch-hitting catcher from SD, Cubs will need to find someone to fill the position capably down the road...I always thought Murton should try C he won't make it or stick in majors as an OF!! He's hopeless out there, time to try another position Matt!! (his hands don't seem very good at catching balls, however).
by writerinwrigley on Jun 20, 2007 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Andy Masur
He also blamed the fight w/Z entirely on Z.
Guess Masur didn't see the plays that preceeded it, and he conveniently forgot about Barrett's clash with Hill.
"He's just what the Padres need."
It didn't take long for him to become a hometown honk.
But -- Andy knows who is signing his paycheck.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 21, 2007 12:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh. White flag trades begin.
...you know, because the Cubs were just too good offensively.
As if it wasn't hard enough for this team to score runs, we just dumped a guy - who sometimes batted cleanup for this offensive juggernaut - in exchange for a bag of magic beans.
Sounds like the beginning of a white flag trading mentality to me. I think we can determine that the Cubs will be sellers at the trade deadline, and this is the first quiet concession of that truth. I see no reason to believe that Hendry has any interest in acquiring anyone for the stretch run who'll require something in return. And since Hendry can't trade with Hendry - the only means by which he'd be able to acquire a player for almost nothing - I can't see anything more than the usual bullpen-acquisition-of-this-year's-trade-deadline happening.
Sad that Jim Hendry has quietly given up on this team in June - again.
I still don't see how this trade could have possibly, or even theoretically, happened. You know, because Jim Hendry has always sworn an oath to us - given us his solemn word of honor - that you just cannot possibly ever, ever, ever acquire a player this early in the season. It's impossible - I mean, a team like the Padres would have to give us Jake Peavy and their top Minor League prospect to get a player like Barrett this early in the season, right? Isn't that what Hendry always tells us every year as we wait until three weeks after the trade deadline to see if the Cubs get any help at all?
Hendry just proved his own annual political spin to be a big bag of lies, and he just raised the white flag half mast in June. It's a damned shame this man gets to be the one to dump our players to contenders before the deadline, a damned shame.
Oh well, who needs to score runs to win ballgames, anyway? Just howl "underperformers" really loud and beat your breast and gnash your teeth as usual. Why sway from a great annual gameplan like that?
Paging the Cubs' bullpen: even perfect won't be good enough now. You're officially the goats no matter what happens the rest of the year. I pity you for being the cheapest commodity.
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jun 21, 2007 8:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well said.
by Matt Allison on Jun 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed....
Sorry about the negativity Cub Nation....
by thedaddy23 on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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