Rumor: Jacque Jones to Marlins

by Maverick @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:20 PM CDT

I have it on very credible source (which means nothing to you guys), but apparently JJ is on his way to Florida.

that's all I got for now, hopefully I can get more details later without looking like an ass if this doesnt go through.

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Florida?!

We getting Dontrelle?

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?" ~Groucho Marx

by Jettero2112 on Jun 26, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions

Oh

you'll look like an ass if this doesn't go through.

And you'll look like a genius if it does. That's just the way these things work. ;-)

by Josh Timmers on Jun 26, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions

latest

a pitcher from low-A Greensboro

all the Marlins good pitching spex are in high A, so it looks like its no one of consequence

maverickball.com

by Maverick @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:19 PM CDT reply actions

Anything is good, great depends on how

much contract Hendry is eating.

by N Oakley on Jun 26, 2007 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions

And I almost bought

my Cubs jersey with "Cabrera" on the back.

It really is too bad that the Cubs couldn't sweeten it up somehow to get Olivo over.

by NO100 on Jun 26, 2007 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Maybe

we could get Hanley Ramirez AND Cabrera if we just threw in Izturis.

by 10 14 23 26 on Jun 26, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions

Jones gone?!

Really?

So is Hendry getting a surgecally repaired player who bats .230 and has a good glove, or a mid- to late- round draft pick who hasn't amounted to anything and struck out 175 times last year in the minors? Perhaps some career utility/bench player who won't help the Cubs at all, but can play lots of positions?

Far be it for Hendry to actually ever GET anything in return these days.

Still, I'll take a blank roster spot in exchange for Jacques Jones at this point. Just being free from the threat of seeing him play is in many ways addition by subtraction.

So whatever the Cubs get in return - so long as it isn't another Izturis type deal - will be fine. No crap for more crap, please. Othewise, I'll take it.

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."

by The Jade Scorpion on Jun 26, 2007 3:25 PM CDT reply actions

If it really is for an A-ball pitcher

then the Cubs better not have to eat any of JJs contract

by Scott @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:29 PM CDT reply actions

Why?

Last week they couldn't get a used infield rake for him. Getting ANY live body professional baseball player is a positive step. Eat most of the deal if you have to.

I cannot imagine why the Marlins want him, but go right ahead.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 26, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

the Marlins

have no CF and while JJ is having a terrible year, he had been pretty solid in years previous

Future Fish

by Maverick @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions

In my opinion

It would further set the tone for the rest of MLB that the Cubs are willing to bend over and take it from anyone willing to trade with them.

They got a questionable return on Barrett and now if they have to eat most of JJs contract for a warm body, then it basically amounts to a blood in the water scenario for the rest of the league. It sends the definite message that Hendry is there to be taken advantage of and that other GMs don't have to offer or give fair market value to the Cubs for the rest of Hendry's tenure as GM.

I've never been a Hendry basher, but if all he gets for JJ is an A-ball pitcher AND has to give up money, then I'll have lost any remaining respect for his GM abilities.

by Scott @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions

You've got to be joking.

Right now, Jones is just about the worst regular player in the major leagues. He has been reduced to being a pinch-runner. He's hitting .234/.295/.328 -- that's a .623 OPS. That's Pattersonesque.

Hendry's been trying to trade him since November. The alternative is to outright-release him. If you get an A-ball pitcher who MIGHT be decent in three years, I say hooray.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 26, 2007 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Jones is terrible individually

The Marlins OF is terrible collectively. Their OF consists of 3 starters with BA of .258, .258 and .223. One is a converted SS. Yet they're 4.5 out of first. They may actually welcome Jones. Besides, Beinfest and the Marlins are detestable people. The PR campaign they did on Girardi was beneath contempt.

Please recognize that the above in no way is an endorsement of the ability of Jones to help the Cubs at any time in my life or my children's lives.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 26, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

Josh Willingham

and Jeremy Hermida are fine players

and since when is batting average the be all end all?

Future Fish

by Maverick @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Every Marlin OF

is making the minimum. OK, that's not an indictment, but it is a strong indicator.

Willingingham is a platoon OF who is .182 vs LHP. Amezaga is a converted backup IF with a .646 OPS. And those are the two best. Excuse me if I refuse to call them fine players. Would you like the Marlin OF playing for the Cubs. And while I am well aware that BA isn't the most significant tell on a player, it was the most readily available and certainly not an insincere attempt to diminish the value of those fine players.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 26, 2007 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions

never heard of Jeremy Hermida I assume

do yourself some research on the 23 year old

also, Josh Willingham is actually pretty good in his career .900ops vs LHP... he is in some kind of funk this year vs them in about 60ab

Future Fish

by Maverick @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 27, 2007 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions

Yep

Seems certain people drastically overestimate the value of players who wear the Cubs uniform.

by cubsbak on Jun 26, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm not overestimating anything

I didn't expect the Cubs to get anything of worth for JJ. The ONLY argument that I'm making, is that the Cubs shouldn't have to pay someone to take him. There are other teams out there in a bad position; there are other bad contracts.

I just find it very hard to believe that the Cubs basically had to give JJ away and pay another team to do it.

by Scott @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions

In my opinion

it's ridiculous to think Hendry could unload Jones without kicking in some cash. If he was able to do that he should be nominated for GM of the year.

by cubsbak on Jun 26, 2007 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

jacque of all trades

i think the operative item will be how much "some" cash is... i certainly think that we will be on the hook for this year's salary, but i would hope that hendry was able to get most of the $5mm for 2008 off the books, if all we are getting in an A prospect.

if we are getting major league ready talent in return, that can help the team this year, then i think paying the majority of the salary is less of an issue. it just seems a testiment of ineptitude to be paying $7mm for jacque to be manning the outfield in miami, and in return getting a prospect with a marginal chance of ever making the mlb.

don't get me wrong, jacque should be gone, i would just rather see him dfa'd if we are giving him away for free.

by bobby h on Jun 26, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Of course

It would be ridiculous for Hendry to eat the entire contract. He'd be better off releasing Jones in that case. But I think it's absurd to expect Hendry to make a deal in which the Cubs don't eat ANY of Jones's contract (unless it's for another highly overpaid piece of garbage). That was what I was responding to.

by cubsbak on Jun 26, 2007 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions

if he was going to dfa him

then as long as the cubs aren't paying the full contract any return is good

GO CUBS GO!!!!!!

by roach on Jun 26, 2007 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

agreed.

i suppose that my only point is that if we are paying MOST of the contract i would hope that we would be getting something that is imminently useful in return.

but if the fish -- or any other trade partners -- agree to take on most of that inflated deal, i would take some pony league level talent.

by bobby h on Jun 26, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Not joking at all

The Cubs set the tone in this area when they traded away Sosa and paid so much of the contract. It was further compounded by the Patterson for nothing trade, then the Maddux for Izworthless trade. Now we have the Barrett and cash for Bowen and a promising but under performing minor leaguer.

Add to that any money the Cubs have to cover in this trade, and I think it points to the ineffectiveness of the GM.

I'd have more respect for Hendry if he held on to Jones until closer to the deadline and included him in another deal. Just to show he wasn't going to be taken advantage of.

As it is, the league knows they have the Cubs over a barrel because of the state of flux of ownership and their inability to add or sign significant contracts.

I think it's a stupid move if they have to eat any of JJs contract.

by Scott @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Hold on to him til the Deadline?!

why have some guy who NOBODY wants just sit on our bench until, magically at the deadline, we get all sorts of takers for JJ. He's sitting on our bench, playing horribly, and hemoraging his value by the day, get rid of him while you can and clear out the roster space.

by DTJchris on Jun 26, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Not joking just silly

Corey turned into Mike Fontenot. Hardly nothing.

And the phuckup by Hendry wasn't in trading Jones and Sosa and Barrett for nothing and eating money, it's for not moving them sooner (Barrett and Sosa) or signing them at ALL!!!! (Jones)

by SsEll on Jun 26, 2007 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree

with that. Hendry's done a horrible job of selling high.

by Scott @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Barrett for Bowen

I think the Cubs won that trade. I would rather have Bowen behind the plate then Barrett.

GO CUBS GO!!!!!!

by roach on Jun 26, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Then the Cubs

should have picked him off of waivers last year instead of having to give up a player for him.

by NO100 on Jun 26, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Cubs also got a 19-year-old #1 draft pick.

It wasn't just Bowen. We got that 19-year-old, too. Let's see how he does in Boise before we call this trade a failure.

And let's not exaggerate Barrett's contributions. He has a slightly-above-MLB-average bat for a catcher, and a dramatically-below-MLB-average glove. And he was consistently losing games with bonehead plays. And his teammates and manager didn't get along with him. And he is headed for free agency.

by ClosingTime on Jun 26, 2007 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm not saying that the trade was a failure

It may have been the best that the Cubs could do. However, they did acquire a 26 YO cather who is on his 3rd team with a career .238 average (in the minors) and a 19 YO prospect who has thus far been underwhelming for a current starting catcher at the major league level.

This trade, basically, was to get Barrett off the roster. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. All I'm saying is that the Cubs got very little in return. Maybe that's all they could get.

by NO100 on Jun 26, 2007 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes he has...

and I have also done a horrible job of realizing when he should sell high. I'm so glad I'm not the GM.

If a player is at his highest value, I want to keep him because he's doing great. That's why I stuck up for Barrett and his offensive abilities, but he's a great example of something that I wish Hendry(and I)would've thought about trading with his value high.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Jun 26, 2007 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions

We got Fontenot

for Sosa, not Patterson. Corey was Carlos Perez and Nate Spears, which is essentially nothing.

But we sure do like trading with the Orioles, Marlins and Padres.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 26, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

My bad

Fine. Regardless, I'd rather have those two shlubs in the minors than Corey and his negative OBP.

by SsEll on Jun 26, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Yep

Hendry tends to wait until he's backed into a corner and has to get rid of a guy when his value is at its lowest.

by cubsbak on Jun 26, 2007 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions

This is called market value

The players you mentioned have very little market value. The Cubs would be better off DFA'ing JJ. They would still have to pay his contract. So anything they get is better than nothing, even if they have to pay a portion of the contract. This is what the market holds.

by LT on Jun 26, 2007 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions

fallen pretty far

from being a good signing for 3/$16 for a platoon player, to should be a decent 4th OF who'll put up better numbers than Geoff Jenkins, to eating the contract for a warm body.

That is a crash of epic proportions.

by jacob on Jun 26, 2007 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions

There's no way

to get anything decent for Jones, he has played terribly this year and is not worth ANYTHING on the trade market.

ATTENTION GM's: 7 million dollar pinch runner available who is not all that fast or good at stealing bases. Better act fast GM's cause who wouldn't want that deal?!

They have been trying to trade this guy for months and months and haven't gotten any takers. If the Fish are willing to take him for more than a fresh rosen bag, then by all means, take him.

And this will not make Hendry look bad, what's better do DFA him and get nothing or trade him and get next to nothing?

by DTJchris on Jun 26, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

It depends on how much of Jacque's......

contract FLA is taking on. If Hendry's paying for all of it, he should have just DFA'ed him.......getting some A-ball pitcher who most likely won't amount to much isn't any prize.

RAMIREZ!! PRIOR!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Jun 26, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions

If we have to eat the contract

then I would agree, just DFA him

by DTJchris on Jun 26, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions

That is kinda ridiculous

The point about Barrett is somewhat debatable, but what exactly did you expect Hendry to get back for JJ? If we all know he is worthless, how can you expect Hendry to get something worthwhile for him?

It is not as if we are trading Babe Ruth for cash. We are talking Jacque Jones here, a no-hit, mediocre defense guy making some decent bucks. He really has little or no worth to most MLB teams. It continues to amaze me how people can go on and on about how horrible a player like JJ is then turn around and moan about how worthless Hendry is for getting nothing in return. You don't get something for nothing - everybody knows that.

The options were, a) trade Jacque for something of some value, however limited, b) DFA Jacque and get nothing in return except the empty roster spot, and c) leave on the club to rot on the bench and take up space. Option d), trading him for Mark Buehrle and Jermaine Dye, or whatever other ridiculous return someone might have thought the Cubs could get, only ever existed in fantasy world. Given the realistic options, what Hendry did seems reasonable. You say teams now know they don't have to offer fair market value - what makes you think JJ's fair market value was a bit more than what Hendry got for him?

by SuperContext on Jun 26, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions

The problem is

Hendry once again waited until a player's value was non-exisent, or even less than nothing, to trade him. All the players he has dumped (Sosa, Patterson, Barrett, Jones, etc.) saw their value take an absolute nosedive in the months before they were traded. Prior to the nosedive, the uneducated masses were clammoring for their trade because of glaring weaknesses we all saw in their game, but Hendry did nothing. It was only after they were completely exposed as players, abnd in some cases as individuals, that Hendry moved them.

We don't know what Hendry tried to do before their value tanked, but it's hard o believe he couldn't have gotten more back if he had better timing and took the time to understand his players and their faults.

It also seems like the Cubs try to really beat down their players when they are on their way out (Sosa leaked video, leaking about being the clubhouse snitch, etc) on their way out. Maybe that's to appease the masses.

by jazzypete on Jun 26, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

I would agree with that

Hendry does wait until a player's value is exceedingly low to sell (although if it is true that he was trying to shop JJ all off-season, its hard to imagine a time he would have had more value - he was coming off a pretty decent year).

by SuperContext on Jun 26, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions

latest

it isn't for Sean West or Graham Taylor (not much other decent arms down there)

Future Fish

by Maverick @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

What????

I have no idea what the Marlins are thinking but right now I LOVE FISH.

I hate Steve Garvey and Alex Gonzalez.

by Cubs hate me on Jun 26, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

Marlins fans are happy

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74836&st=50&gopid=1454824&#entr y1454824

by gocubs40 on Jun 26, 2007 3:39 PM CDT reply actions

Not for long...

...wait until they watch him try to hit a breaking ball.

by 10 14 23 26 on Jun 26, 2007 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Fish

they've had garbage in CF for 2 years now... atleast this will be big name garbage then

Future Fish

by Maverick @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Obviously...

... no one reading that thread has ever seen Jones play.

Wait till they see him try to hit lefthanded pitching.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 26, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

he wont play vs lefties

once Cody Ross is back... I think he hits lefties very well

Future Fish

by Maverick @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Jun 26, 2007 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah...

Maybe they will actually use him in a situation where he can do well most of the time.

I hope Jacque does fantastic wherever he goes if this is all true.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Jun 26, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

He's better

than Alfredo Amezega.

Desperate times . . .

by Josh Timmers on Jun 26, 2007 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah,

this actually isn't a bad move by the Marlins. Jacque has struggled this season, but he has a long history of being pretty solid against RHP. The Marlins have absolutely no centerfielders that deserve to be in the majors, so starting Jones in CF is a decent upgrade. They really aren't too far out of the race (7 games back), so they probably figure they might as well give it a shot and hope Jones can return to form. Who knows, he could start hitting again and the Marlins could deal him at the deadline if they're not interested in keeping him for next year.

by mportsch on Jun 26, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions

We sure trade

a lot with the Padres and the Marlins.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 26, 2007 3:51 PM CDT reply actions

and Orioles

by DTJchris on Jun 26, 2007 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Our favorite site has picked up

on the JJ to Fish rumor as well.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

by DTJchris on Jun 26, 2007 3:56 PM CDT reply actions

I heard it was JJ and a couple of our top minor

league pithers for Steve Bartman. Lou said he was going to put Bartman back in left field.

A good day for me is a cubs win and a sox loss.

by diehardmark on Jun 26, 2007 4:26 PM CDT reply actions

YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED

--BANNED--

by billywan on Jun 26, 2007 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Florida paper reporting trade

This is the 1st media reference I have found...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-0626marlins,0,5116352.story?coll=sfla-sports-front

Kasey

by kaseyi on Jun 26, 2007 4:44 PM CDT reply actions

Trib also reporting it

same story though.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070626-cubstrade,1,107131.story?coll =cs-cubs-headlines

by madmf on Jun 26, 2007 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions

And this...

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070626-cubstrade,1,107131.story?coll =cs-home-headlines

Neifi, we hardly knew ye.

by Krande on Jun 26, 2007 4:48 PM CDT reply actions

roster move

i've got a good source telling me that billy petrick from AA has been called up...

please don't flame me, take it for what its worth but i believe my source.

"Winning is the greatest marketing idea of all time." --Cubs President John McDonough

by cubbieblue on Jun 26, 2007 4:58 PM CDT reply actions

petrick's stats

http://www.smokiesbaseball.com/team/statistics.asp?stats=t_ipi

for those who are curious

"Winning is the greatest marketing idea of all time." --Cubs President John McDonough

by cubbieblue on Jun 26, 2007 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions

This would be so Cubs

Go spend millions on relief pitchers, have them fail, then bring up a kid that's clearly nowhere near ready to get major league batters out under pressure.

sigh

And on we go....

by paulucla on Jun 26, 2007 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah.....

...and the Cubs knew some pitchers would fail, so they did it on purpose. F'n Cubs. And rather than spend even more money for failure, they have the nerve to use the farm system. Imagine that.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 26, 2007 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Here's another article

Palm Beach Post.

They're saying we may be tossing in a prospect and only one million in salary and possibly getting Graham Taylor.

Honestly, I can't think of what prospect we'd have to be throwing in to only have to toss in a million in salary to get Graham Taylor, who is a real prospect.

I think this is a little bit too much speculation. If we got Graham Taylor for Jones, it would be a coup.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 26, 2007 5:09 PM CDT reply actions

Yes, Graham Taylor would be a great deal

for the Cubs.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jun 26, 2007 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

IF this is the case..than

Cubs are giving up a AA pitcher like Holliman or E-Patterson or something because Taylor has a .85 WHIP and is killing the lower A ball league.

My bet is that the Marlins get to choose the PTBNL and then the Cubs get this prospect...if that is the case....bigger news is that Cubs dumped a unusable roster spot....next up is Eyre....

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Jun 26, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions

don't know him

but his numbers look impressive, and he's left-handed.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/T/Graham-Taylor.shtml
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Graham%2520Taylor&pos=P&sid=milb&a mp;t=p_pbp&pid=501869

he wasn't one of Sickels top 20 prospects, fwiw.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2006/12/23/225355/26
might be getting a little old to still be in low-A ball, but I could be wrong on that.

Nonetheless, if the Cubs only paid $1 mil and got this guy back, it would be impressive.

by jazzypete on Jun 26, 2007 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Why

do I feel like to player we'll be getting will be from single A and have a whip of 2.5, but strikes out a lot of guys?

Oh wait, I know why. I just remembered its because Hendry is our GM.

Though in fairness if the Marlins pick up most of the contract, it doesn't matter who we get back. Whatever happens, this represents another failure by Hendry that nearly EVERYONE saw coming. I think just about everybody though Jones was a terrible signing, everyone but Hendry.

by jazzypete on Jun 26, 2007 5:10 PM CDT reply actions

PLAYER-TO-BE-NAMED-LATER

A dump a salary...this means this year we have dumped $750K of Barrett and possibly $1.5M of Jones getting $2.5-$3M in the kitty...

PTBNL is usually a choice depending on some terms...could be reciprocol...meaning the trade is really exchanging prospects and Jones is taken off the books and given to them to pay...

Either way the cancer is gone!!!!!!!

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Jun 26, 2007 5:17 PM CDT reply actions

With a month left to trade, who's next?

Izturis?

Eyre?

Ohman?

Howry?

Pick your favorite loser!

by JFCubFan on Jun 26, 2007 5:32 PM CDT reply actions

How could we 'trade' Eyre?

Maybe dump him on waivers. But trade?

Rob Dibble is a juvenile. Why is he on my XM radio? Why is he on my TV? Please, just, make him stop.

by iowaBear on Jun 27, 2007 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions

Per David Kaplan, Jones + 5 million

to the Marlins for a lefty minor league pitcher.

And Jim Hendry still has his job.

by Peoria Matt on Jun 26, 2007 5:38 PM CDT reply actions

OMG

We better not have paid Jones to play in Florida next year. Freaking ridiculous.....

by bamix1 on Jun 26, 2007 5:43 PM CDT reply actions

What are you talking about?

We were committed to paying Jones to play for US next year. Given two options, continuing to do so or paying him to play on some OTHER team, I know what I pick. It's like having a double agent in the Marlins lineup!

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jun 26, 2007 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I know

We better be getting Hanley Ramirez and not paying over $1M of Jones future salary.....

by LT on Jun 26, 2007 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions

why don't we just ask for a pony

I mean, who doesn't love ponies?

Maybe if we just clap really hard they'll give us Dontrelle Willis and pay for both his and JJ's salary....

by SuperContext on Jun 26, 2007 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah, dfa him instead.

rollseyes

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Jun 26, 2007 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Fox Sports

is reporting that the deal is done but how much of JJ's salary the Cubs pay is holding it up.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6963972?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49

by LT on Jun 26, 2007 5:46 PM CDT reply actions

Not So Fast

Rosenthal of FoxSports
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6964484
Updated 20 minutes ago...

"Barring an unexpected reversal, the Marlins' trade for Cubs outfielder Jacque Jones is not going to happen, FOXSports.com has learned.

The Marlins pursued Jones with the intention of making him their regular center fielder, but the deal hit an unspecified "major snag" Tuesday night, according to a major-league source.
The Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel reported that Jones had been traded Tuesday night, but the Cubs did not inform Jones that a deal had been completed, according to another source.

The holdup likely involves money -- Jones, 31, is owed the balance of his $4 million salary this season and $5 million next season.

The low-revenue Marlins almost certainly would require the high-revenue Cubs to pay the majority of Jones' remaining salary. Any transaction involving more than $1 million requires the approval of the commissioner's office."

Jay Leno reported this week: "Statistics show that in a lifetime, the average person sheds 120 pints of tears. Double that if you're a Cubs fan."

by talkingcubs on Jun 26, 2007 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Len Kasper just reported

After close-up of Jones, that Hendry held press briefing they worked very hard and close on a deal, but not going to be rushed into anything...still open for business if it's something that he thinks will help his team.

So the Dempster DL thing may have given him a little more time to field offers, and maybe find another team willing to take on more of Jones' salary than Fla.

May not be so dumb after all...Jones could get a key hit as PH or occasional starter to help us win a game before trade deadline..but really don't need him as regular, obviously, with way Floyd and Pagan have performed (and Jones has not).

by writerinwrigley on Jun 26, 2007 7:36 PM CDT reply actions