10,000th Win

by AlSpangler on Jul 16, 2007 11:13 AM CDT Comment 18 comments

The Phillies became the first professional sports team to suffer their 10,000th loss yesterday. The Cubs will be the first to celebrate their 10,000th win.

CORRECTION: The Giants have already won 10,000 games, although they did that based in two cities.

As of Monday morning, they are 9,947-9,425 since 1876. If they could win 53 more games this year (which would give them 100 wins) they could reach the milestone this season. At worst they should reach it by early next season.

Any predictions when they will get their 10,000th victory?

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Question

Do these overall records include post seasons?

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 16, 2007 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

April 2008

I'm assuming post-season is not included.

I'm pretty up on this team right now, but I do not think they will go 53-19 the rest of the way.

by SuperContext on Jul 16, 2007 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No, they won't get it this year.

And no, that's regular season only.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 16, 2007 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Curious Then....

...why wouldn't post season games count in a team's overall record? It seems to defeat the very definition of a "franchise's overall record." Such as "for regular season games, the Cubs are 10,000-9,900. In post season, they are 40-50, for an overall record of 10,040-9,950."

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 16, 2007 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because...

... regular season records and postseason records are kept separate, for good reason -- not all teams make the postseason, which would make inequities in records for teams and players.

Example: in the year Sammy Sosa hit 66 HR, the Cubs made the playoffs. If he had hit any HR in the playoffs, those would have counted under your scenario.

I think you can see the issue here.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 16, 2007 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This would mean 100 regular season victories

More likely they will be 17 on the low range and 5 on the high range short--meaning I am going say 7 short, (93 wins overall). Meaning that next year it will be around April 15th, tax day.

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Jul 16, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that would be funny

the franchise known for almost a century of futility the first to 10,000 wins

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Jul 16, 2007 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Isn't that just it though??

A century of "failure" and yet possibly the quickest to 10,000.

This is exactly what the Cubs experience is all about...

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 16, 2007 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm

I was surprised that it was not the Reds. Apparently although they are the oldest team (if you go back to the first team) they broke up a few times (and one of them moved to Boston to form what became the Braves -- it is uncertain whether the Red games are included, if they are the Braves could be close to 10,000 as well).

The Cubs are, apparently, the oldest team in the National League.

by frustratedfan on Jul 16, 2007 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the Giants have over 10,000 wins

But the Cubs would be the second to get there.

Should happen sometime early next season.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 16, 2007 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Opps

Yes. The Giants have over 10,000 wins in fewer years. They had that period of significant domination in the early 20th Century.

by frustratedfan on Jul 16, 2007 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And they had

fewer periods of downright awful baseball. The WWII years were about the only time that the Giants have been really bad for an extended timeframe.

by rlpete on Jul 16, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Giants

Giants have 10,150 wins to date.

by John in DC on Jul 16, 2007 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even though I HATE them

surprised the Yankees don't have the most wins in Baseball history

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 16, 2007 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's because...

... the Yankees have been around for 30 years fewer than the Giants.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 16, 2007 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, I suppose that helps

I just figured that so many winning seasons in so many decades(besides the 80's, correct?) would help them out

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 16, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But really,

a great team only has 40 more wins a year than an awful team, so that doesn't make that huge a dent in TEN THOUSAND, especially since most teams aren't great (or awful) for 30 years in a row.

DON'T SAY IT.

But even an awful team will win 1,800 more games in 30 years than a team that doesn't exist yet.

by ChipSet on Jul 16, 2007 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

People forget though...

That the Cubs were a very good franchise from 1876-1945 winning 16 pennants and 2 WS (which didn't exist until 1903).

It would be nice if the national media would include the first 70 years of the franchise occasionally when commenting on its history instead of conveniently forgetting and only commenting on the last 60.

I'd like to see the Cubs winning their 10,000th game get even a fraction of the attention the Phillies got for losing their 10,000th. But I'm not holding my breath.

by Dillthethrill on Jul 17, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs