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Mmmm.... Donuts!

Before I tell you what the title of this post means, and a little about how it felt at the ballpark, on a day when rainshowers dotted the Chicago area seemingly everywhere except on Wrigley Field (where it just sprinkled for a few minutes), during tonight's exciting comeback Cubs 3-2 win over the Giants, a couple of quick comments about the Cubs' acquisition of catcher Jason Kendall from the A's.

First, don't worry. Sean Marshall is still a Cub, and will start tomorrow, despite ESPN's pronoucement on Baseball Tonight that he had been included in the deal. That's pretty embarrassing for ESPN, considering this is the first high-profile deal of the deadline trading season; the deal is for Rob Bowen, who spent just a bit less than four weeks as a Cub, and Jerry Blevins, a left-handed pitcher who had a 1.02 ERA in splitting time between Daytona and Tennessee this year, but who had not really been on the prospect radar.

Kendall's an experienced catcher who, until this year, had been a good hitter -- hit .295 with a .367 OBA last season. This year he's hitting .226; perhaps a change of scenery will help him. He used to hit with a bit of power and had some speed (stole 20+ bases three years in a row when he was younger), but injuries have robbed him of both of those skills. If he can handle the pitching staff and hit better than the combination of Rob Bowen and Koyie Hill (that, despite Hill's second HR of the year tonight), it's a worthwhile deal. Kendall's a free agent after the end of this season, and according to this there ought to be a little less than $6 million left on his contract.

Well done, Jim Hendry. Billy Petrick was recalled when Bowen was designated for assignment just before the game (I assumed a deal was coming because you don't DFA a guy you just traded for, unless you're trading him again), and I suspect that Geovany Soto, who has options left, will be returned to Iowa soon, with Kendall and K. Hill picking up the catching duties, and a 12th pitcher added. Who that'd be, I'm not sure -- Rocky Cherry's due off the DL soon, or perhaps Clay Rapada will be recalled. Kendall's expected in uniform tomorrow; his uniform number throughout his career has been #18. That's taken now by coach Mike Quade, and it's traditional for coaches to give up numbers to players, especially veteran players, who want them. Kendall's already listed on the active roster.

Now, about those donuts.

Jeff came to the game on Friday bearing a couple of the Official Simpsons Movie Donuts. The Cubs won Friday. He brought them back Saturday, and Sunday, and today... winners all. Now, he says, he's going to have to buy about 60 of them and freeze them for the rest of the season, to keep this going, because the promotion at 7-11's, selling these donuts, ends on July 27.

Was that the reason the Cubs won? Of course not; but can't we be superstitious? Why not?

The Cubs won because Rich Hill threw a terrific game after 12 days off, making only one real mistake -- Pedro Feliz's HR in the 5th, after Feliz had hit a freaky ball that bounced away from Aramis Ramirez and hit third base for the first hit of the game. Ramirez made a couple of really nice picks at 3B; I can't say enough about how he's improved his defense this year. Ryan Theriot made a terrific diving grab on an Omar Vizquel line drive in the 4th, a Web Gem for sure.

The game stayed tied into the 8th, when one of those "innocent little walks" led to a run after a sacrifice, and a pinch-single by .170-hitting backup catcher Guillermo Rodriguez, giving the Giants a brief 2-1 lead.

But this resilient Cub team came back -- and with two out and nobody on in the last of the 8th, and after singles by Theriot and D-Lee, Ramirez hit a ball that nearly left the yard for a 3-run HR. No worries, as it settled onto the grass for a two-run double, as the crowd of 40,282 started rocking; the place began shaking with near-playoff intensity as Bob Howry set the Giants down easily, throwing only eight pitches for his sixth save.

A team. That's what we have, fellow Cub fans. Everyone picks each other up; new heroes (the Hills, today) emerge in each game; and with each victory, you can feel the confidence level grow. Does winning breed chemistry, or does chemistry breed winning? Maybe it's a little of both. Sixteen out of twenty, and a new catcher coming tomorrow. (And note, not a single mention of a certain Giant, who didn't play tonight.)

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Was there anything more
To the trash-throwing in left field after the winning double?
Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jul 16, 2007 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking it was a HR
With fan interference knocking it straight down?

AL... you were there. What happened?

1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 16, 2007 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what was the deal with the garbage, al?
i had the game on mute, so i didn't know what was going on.

i felt like benny hill music should have been playing while the groundscrew ran around.

by dudmatic on Jul 16, 2007 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was disgraceful.
There's no reason for that in any case, but especially when the Cubs have just taken the lead.

There's not enough security in the bleachers. There needs to be a more visible presence of security. And people have to stop acting like idiots.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 16, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the trash?
I didn't really understand it.  First time I can recall watching a game and something GOOD happening and the fans looking making us look like fools.

I was also glad to see Lou leave Hill in the game with one out to go in the eighth.  Nice to give the youngin a bit of confidence, contrary to what ESPN guys were saying.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 16, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, this is weird
They were throwing trash onto the field after a game winning double (or lead taking double, anyway)? What's the motivation for that?

phat

by phatass on Jul 16, 2007 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Old Style+Night Game+Immaturity=Trash on Field
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 16, 2007 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I've done some dumb things after a few Old Styles. I might yet tonight. I don't think I'd ever throw trash on any field, though.

phat

by phatass on Jul 16, 2007 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.
i've raised my share of hell when full of Old Styles, but I was raised better than to toss trash on a professional playing surface. My dad took me to games and taught me respect for the game. No amount of Old Style could inspire me to litter that field, because I know what it would do to my old man when he found out.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 16, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Grant Park 20-something crew ...
aka 'College Part II'.  Being a 'fan' is a fashion statement, a fad.  Not the real thing.  I'd be interested how much any of them really know about Cubs history, if any of them were sober, going back pre-2003.
Rob Dibble is a juvenile. Why is he on my XM radio? Why is he on my TV? Please, just, make him stop.

by iowaBear on Jul 16, 2007 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The decision to leave him in
got him the win.  Even though you don't play for stats it's nice to say you won your last start rather than haven't won in over a month.

by JonH on Jul 16, 2007 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

after the trash...
the security guys swarmed up the stairs.  We figured they watched the video and would kick out the offenders.  In right field, the fan who throw the empty cups (toward the end of the trash throwing) was outed by another fan, and was led away.  Didn't see too many others escorted out, but it's very embarrassing - especially on national tv.
"We tried to set up a double play, and the shortstop doesn't play in the bullpen." Lou Piniella, July 4, 2007, discussing Young's GS

by gp1966 on Jul 17, 2007 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More and more of this has to happen
The throwing out of fans, not throwing onto the field.  The Cubs have to better communicate that if you throw stuff on the field, you will be tossed and you will not be allowed to purchase tickets for the following season through the Cubs ticketing office.  

I also wish they would go to city council to have a law on the books to fine any individual that does such a thing.  $200 bucks each time.  Then the Tribune should publish the names of those people fined.

Or we could just throw the fan from the bleachers on the field.  They are just trash anyway.

by NO100 on Jul 17, 2007 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of fun
I think that the Cubs have forgotten how to lose.

I felt the momentum shift on the Soriano error and was worried that the bubble might burst. But then the pitch-out swung things right back in our favor. Luckily Theriot, Lee, and Ramirez were able to cash in.

Did anyone think that Ramirez WOULDN'T get two runs in? I was pretty positive he would.

Oh, and essentially turning Barrett and a couple minor leaguers into Jason Kendall sounds pretty good to me.

by WittyUserName on Jul 16, 2007 9:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As soon as Rami was up to bat
I knew he would at least tie it up.  I thought (as he did) that ball was long gone, but it fell short, luckily not too short as it still knocked in two for a stand up double.

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 16, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Key was Lee...
Or Pinella who sent Lee with the pitch. The head start enabled Lee to easily score from first.

by cubby23 on Jul 16, 2007 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were two outs.
Of course Lee was off on contact.

by bleedhawkeyegold on Jul 17, 2007 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee..
though was running on the pitch, before contact. Turned out to be a good move by the manager.
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jul 17, 2007 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude
Rami is the most clutch player on this team.  He way K at times duringthe game but if you truly search your memory (and no not stat searching but just memory)over this season, and others, for a time that you can remember him not delivering, you would be hard pressed.  

the guy owns the majority of game winning, comeback, deliveries.  Be it a walk off HR, or doubles against the ivy, he is IMHO, the best Cub at this time.  \

I also love to watch his face when he realizes he has to run cause the ball stayed in the park!

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Rammy
is about the third or fourth most clutch player on the team (based on a minimum of 25 AB's in this situation):

BA/RiSP for 2007:

D.Lee .391/.473/.598
Floyd .377/.467/.604
Derosa .363/.419/.500
Ramirez .307/.379/.580

Ramiez, does however have the most RBI's with RiSP of this group with 43.

Now, here's where it gets interesting. BA/RiSP w/ 2 Outs (again with a 25 AB minimum):

Derosa .452/.528/.742
Floyd .364/.500/.682
Soriano .333/.486/.404
Jacque Jones .297/.366/.459
Ramirez .286/.419/.571
Lee .257/.366/.514

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 17, 2007 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay
did you actually flat out ignore my request to leave stats and go by memory?

That was my point.  Think (not research) about the comebacks and walkoffs this season and who comes to mind.  Soriano once and the rest are Rami...according to memory.  I maintain my stance that he seems to me, to be the most clutch player on this team.  Defense has been superior, saving many o runs, and then he caps off comeback after comeback.

I know, plenty will criticize that I go by feeling and memory rather than stats but this was my opinion...

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe...
...other people remember different things. The stats are what happened - they're a record of events. That's all. You want us to trust your recollection of ballgames over what actually occured. Why?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 17, 2007 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

try reading my post
the point was "think back"...that's all.

Not to do the research and come up with numbers as to why he is not.

THINK BACK.

Why do i want to trust my memory?  I was not printing a fact in the paper, I was commenting on my OPINION about who seems to have come through the most this season (or at least, as of late).  

It doesn't appear that he was stating that he remembers differently at all...he rebutted by listing stats to prove me wrong...which I guess I knew would happen.

I maintain...based on my memory...he has been the most clutch player (at the very least, suring the Cubs hot streak) IMO.

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that you
Stephen Colbert?

"Don't look it up in a book.  Books are full of facts.  Look it up in your gut."

by Josh77 on Jul 17, 2007 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay okay,
Rami sucks!  
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I flatly ignored it,
but only because IMO, Derosa has been far more clutch than Ramirez. I'll agree that Ramirez has the edge on GW hits, but Derosa's gotten a lot of really big hits since the Cubs left Texas. I think we could probably make a case for either one of these guys as team MVP at this point. They've both been huge. I won't rip you for not going to the stats, though. You simply stated your opinion, not any sort of objective fact, and that's what makes talking about baseball fun--the exchange of opinions.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 17, 2007 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree with the DeRosa opinion...
he has been HUGE.  I suppose I was thinking about the game winners and the huge comebacks.  Going on my feeling when I see him at the plate and we need runs.

I felt very good last night, better than with Lee or Soriano at the plate.  This was the point of my post.  But I do appreciate the input.

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always feel
good when Rammy steps to the plate with guys in scoring position. He seems to really lock in when he's put in those situations. He even gets a different look on his face. He's a special player, for sure.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 17, 2007 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...
to counter the comment made to me about why I trust my memory...

If I look back at the "Who is the best player on the Cubs" diary/poll, Rami walked off (pun intended) with the vote.  I assume most of the votes were based on feelings regarding his performance this year, not necessarily stats...if not, he would not have gotten the vote right?

PS...This is not a response to you Gary V.

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had to look back
it was Cwyers
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the main reason
i feel so confident with ramirez up, is because he almost never strikes out.  last night going up against lincecum is a different story, but compared to lee and sori, aramis isnt even close in strikeouts.  you can always count on him to put the ball in play, and usually with authority, and thats why i feel so confident with him up.
Big Z on Cuban: "Plus, I can be signed by him. You know, I know he has the money for me. Hopefully he can buy the Cubs."

by kylejo on Jul 17, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Trade Idea
How about Cedeno and Murton for Griffey?

Discuss.

by MrDurdenclone on Jul 16, 2007 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Two no-bodies for a lock tight HOFer
Yeah. The Reds are going to trade away the ticket revenue they have with Griffey chasing 600, and look like complete idiots by taking two nobodies for Junior.

To us, on here, Cedeno and Murton maybe something, but to anyone else they are no-bodies who are not MLB proven.

They will want a proven player (i.e. Marmol) and the answer is NO!

by louslovechild on Jul 16, 2007 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tradewinds
Realizing it is a stupid trade - remember that last year the Reds traded Austin Kearns AND Felipe Lopez to the Nationals for Billy Bray, Gary Majewski's rag arm, and, apparently, the negatives of Reds management and a goat.
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Jul 16, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now here's someone
to trade Marshall for..

Bring up Mateo! :D

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Jul 16, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best play of the day:
Lou's pitchout on the squeeze!

Awesome!

1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 16, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, Theroit having enough sense to jump over
the DLEE Grounder and not cause the third out in the inning.

That was the play of the game.

by MrDurdenclone on Jul 16, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you serious?
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Jul 16, 2007 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

couillon?
Franco-Mexican?
GREAT SUCCESS!!!

by Chitown Mojo on Jul 17, 2007 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ask Theriot
what a "couillion" is...you'll get a belly laugh.

by Cajuncub on Jul 17, 2007 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pronounced
Koo-yawn...with the accent on the first syllable.  

by Cajuncub on Jul 17, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In French it means balsy...
Which is why I ask you... It's the litterate translation anyways, it's actually an insult in everyday language
GREAT SUCCESS!!!

by Chitown Mojo on Jul 18, 2007 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...
...that pitch out was fantastic.  

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 16, 2007 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Rich!!
With Z and Lilly hot right now, if just one of the other three gets going the Cubs are in excellent shape. Another nice break for the bullpen, then with Z and Lilly for games 3&4, even if Marshall has a poor outing Lou can use the bullpen at will.

Man is this fun or what!!

Eamus Ursuli!

by WGNstatic on Jul 16, 2007 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.
That's all I can say.
Al, I'm going to the game tomorrow night, and to do my part, I'm bringing donuts...I think.
Or maybe that will screw the mojo.

Anywho, I'll be down the third base line in the poor boy's region.

Thumps up to Bob Howry tonight.
Great game.

"You're fired." - Dallas Green to Billy Connors while Billy was staying in the hospital.

by jdoolsiu on Jul 16, 2007 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Email me...
... with your seat location, I'd love to stop by and meet you.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 16, 2007 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed this one.
I had more important things, like spending time with my wife.

Oddly enough, I didn't think about the game until late. That's probably good. I need to spend time with my wife doing things, even if it is just watching TV.

You know, it's weird. I've been getting a lot of people complimenting me on my Cubs cap when I'm out and about. This was not happening in the spring.

phat

by phatass on Jul 16, 2007 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah ...
I had that happen at the gym the other day.  I had a Cubs shirt on and some lady gave me a high-five.  Then as I was walking some guy tells me nice shirt.  I've been wearing it to work-out in off and on for 2 years now, and only this past month or so have I had comments like that.  And I'm not even remotely close to 'Cub country'.
Rob Dibble is a juvenile. Why is he on my XM radio? Why is he on my TV? Please, just, make him stop.

by iowaBear on Jul 16, 2007 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh
I know that routine.  Gotta spend more time with the wife.

Struggle with the same thing my friend.  Doesn't mean I don't love spending time with my wife...what it means is, the ideal time spent would be watching the Cubs games.  Sometimes she does, and other times, I have to watch the E channel...yuck!

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess
many of us married guys suffer the same fate. Here is a tip. If they are readers, show them a good book. I watch she reads, how nice is that.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jul 17, 2007 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am the perfect wife......
.....because I would watch every Cubs game if they were all televised.  I typically end up watching on Blackberry if the game isn't on.

Well....perfect wife except that my husband is a (gasp!) Braves fan!  So we fight over which game to watch in the evenings and typically end up in different rooms.  He rips me on WGN NOT carrying the Cubs games....I rip him on the Braves fans and their absolute apathy displayed throughout the 90's when they wouldn't even sell out their playoff games.

by iluvryno on Jul 17, 2007 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are a good woman..
just like my wife who loves to watch the Cubs?
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jul 17, 2007 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes you are...
my wife is a great woman too.  I do believe I did this to myself because she used to be a much bigger Cub fan.  She still loves the Cubs, just annoyed by the over use of our TV!
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you
there, man. My wife likes the Cubs, too, but she just hates the feeling of "obligation," like just because the games are on we have to watch? But she does sit and read a lot, as someone mentioned, while I watch. Sometimes we play cards while the game's on, too, and that's cool. I get to see enough; if I watched every game, I'd never get anything done.
"Mine, mine, says the squirrel to the transformer, unclear on the capacities of electricity." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 17, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The reading thing is good!
Women are so much more sophisticated than us...
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm lucky
as my husband is a Cubs fan too. As guys on here are cursing over a botched play or a player during a game he's doing the same thing beside me.
The recipe for success needs a little Marmol-ade.

by sue369 on Jul 17, 2007 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh sure..
rub it in Sue!  Thanks a lot!
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm the real perfect wife...
we go to 60 games a year, travel to spring training (next year we'll celebrate our 10th wedding anniversary in Mesa), and I can best my husband and his friends on my stats knowledge and he's proud of it.
"We tried to set up a double play, and the shortstop doesn't play in the bullpen." Lou Piniella, July 4, 2007, discussing Young's GS

by gp1966 on Jul 17, 2007 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is
why I'm divorced.  Lol.  Actually I was at my girlfriends house (so cooked supper last night) and I watched part of the game with her, but when she was ready to get on to other things, I left and went back to my place to finish watching the game.  We dont have fights about the tv that way.  TIVO is the other saviour of our relationship
2007 is the year, I can feel it in my bones.

by indytaz on Jul 17, 2007 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but
TIVO?

I do nopt have enough self control not to check the score before I watch the whole game, after the fact.  I tend to watch for highlights that I missed..and the calls (ie. the Rami walkoff HR a few weeks back).

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is hard
to stay away from the scores sometimes but, I am very busy with either work, or I umpire ball games, sometimes two games a night, and if I'm with my girlfriend, we are usually out somewere, so I dont get home until late and its a good way to relax before going to bed.  Plus, I can skip all the commercials and down time so it only take about a hour and a half to get through a game.
2007 is the year, I can feel it in my bones.

by indytaz on Jul 17, 2007 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kudos to you!
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and by the way.
This really is a good baseball team.

phat

by phatass on Jul 16, 2007 9:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Oh, and by the way.
This really is a good baseball team......with a really good manager.
Hey Lou, we're long overdue.

by deadcatbounce on Jul 16, 2007 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes
n/t

by phatass on Jul 16, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said in the earlier thread
The "LOSER" mentality of "what will go wrong next", is obviously now being replaced by the "WINNERS" stance of, "we can do it!".

It has taken until very recently for this transformation to start to evolve.

It is SO MUCH FUN to watch winniing baseball again!

And LOU is the best thing to happen to this team since Dallas Green, imo.

YO! AL!  What's up with the Left Field Bleachers, Man??

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 16, 2007 9:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As I've said elsewhere....
... those people are idiots and do NOT reflect the many good fans out in the bleachers.

But the Cubs HAVE to do something before that gets out of control.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 16, 2007 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always like Kendell
going back to his Pirates days.  He's an old school ballplayer and I'm confident he'll help this club.  He solidifies a very important position.

by cubsbak on Jul 16, 2007 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I liked him after...
He stole home for a walk off win a year or two back after K-Rod dropped the toss back from the pitcher.

by JonH on Jul 16, 2007 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Dog Hate Barry Bonds
Every time that man hits the TV screen my dog goes nuts.

It is hilarious

by louslovechild on Jul 16, 2007 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's kind of creepy
actually.

phat

by phatass on Jul 16, 2007 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great win today boys!
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jul 16, 2007 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Better translation than Hank White....
Is Pedro Feliz, who homered in, thankfully, a losing cause. Pedro Feliz...a/k/a "Pete Happy". Anyone have a better translation of a Spanish MLB name???

by perseman on Jul 16, 2007 10:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jose Mesa
Joe Table

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jul 16, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Delgado
Charlie of the Cat

by ClosingTime on Jul 16, 2007 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OOPS!
Cat in Spanish is gato not gado.  I couldn't find a translation for gado.

by Bojanski on Jul 17, 2007 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have several...
Johnny Bench = Juanito Banco
Rich Hill = Ricardo Colina
Mickey Mantle = Miguelito Mantel
George Bell = Jorge Campana
George Foster = Jorge Postizo
Pete Rose - Pedro Rosado
David Wells = David Pozos
Dusty Baker = Polvoriento Panadero
Bill White = Roberto Blanco
Buddy Bell = Amiguito Campana
Bud Black = Amigo Negro
Willie Mays = Guillermo Mayos

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 16, 2007 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I HATE ESPN
Scott Van Pelt! The story is the damn Cubs! Bonds is a freak and he strained a hammy when he had to bend over a little more so that ESPN could kiss his (sorry) ass a little more.

by louslovechild on Jul 16, 2007 10:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I'm glad
that ESPN sucked up to BB -- or, this game wouldn't have been on the Worldwide Leader -- and those of us out in the hinterlands with EI wouldn't have seen it. It was on WCIU, and on over-the-air TV in SF. No EI coverage.

No Barry, thousands of us wouldn't have been treated to this 'extra' game and an exciting victory.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 16, 2007 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love Sutter's commentary though
Puts the premier Miller/Morgan team to shame.

And I swear he sounded like a Cubs homer, just begging Lee and Ramirez to hit one out in the eighth.

by JFCubFan on Jul 16, 2007 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're 26-12 since Lou's ejection
1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 16, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's the record since the Barrett trade?
In my mind that's when they really took off.

by cubsbak on Jul 16, 2007 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

15-4....
Amazing what a impact that has had. Lou's fit was a show that had little effect.
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Jul 16, 2007 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow! That's handling the pitchers well.
It proves why "catcher" is primarily a defensive poition.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 16, 2007 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know
That may have been a bit of a setup. It was probably planned. But I think it was motivated by real anger and frustration. If my coach had done something like that and I realized that maybe I can do better I think I'd do better.

Nobody wants to see their coach that angry, ever. That really, really sucks. I don't care how old you are or how well-paid.

phat

by phatass on Jul 16, 2007 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of Course It Was Planned.....
.... after the Barrett/Zambrano fight, Piniella knew he had to do something. That it took so long into the next game was because there weren't many plays to argue.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 16, 2007 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree it was planned
But it was not disingenuous.

phat

by phatass on Jul 16, 2007 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

difference between 'B' level & 'A' level mgr's
Piniella knew he had to do something to take away the attention from his players, the locker room, and also show he cared and was willing to pay a high price. He also used this to state he was in control, not the asylum of players.

The club began to rally around him, it exposed malcontents and those willing to change and he played those that were producing. Barrett is not a catcher, he is a DH-OF and possibly 3B-1B like Moreland. Catching is both a defensive and the brains of the game. Calling a game is as important if not more so than the physical parts.

Now we have had full turnover in that place, Kendall is now the starter, K Hill is an able backup, some pop, good head. Blanco is healthy is another good backup, Cubs could carry 3 catchers through September if they drive to the playoffs.

But one thing is for certain, this is now Piniella's team. The pitch out was masterful and showed up Boche, what an obvious call, Vizquel at the plate, 1-out, first pitch...bingo got the out.

The hit&run with 1-1 count, best hitter on the club, hits it the opposite way even though he is a pull hitter naturally....setting up the RBI man in Rammie--

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Jul 17, 2007 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice little recap
The pitchout, a bit anti climactic after Soriano's E, was one of the top calls if not the best all season by Lou.  Perfect, perfect, perfect.  Props to Lou...but that is NOT what makes Loua a great manager (props that is).
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU

Pittsburgh Pirates, again!  I don't know why, but the Pirates love playing their part to see that the Cubs always have the best possibility opportunity of making the playoffs.  Make sure Dave Littlefield knows the new address to send Kendall's check to.  

by Fsemi2323 on Jul 16, 2007 10:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's
..kind of a stretch, isn't it?

by carmenfanzone on Jul 17, 2007 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if you consider
that the Pirates are paying 5.5 of Kendall's 13m this year. That means the Cubs pay less than 4m for Kendall (the A's are sending some cash), instead of 7.5m.

by SouthsideCub on Jul 17, 2007 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but.....
to say the Pirates are in any way responsible for the Cubs actually getting Kendall? It's not like Littlefield said, "OK, we're going to trade him to the A's, but down the line I hope I have to pay most of his salary if he ever gets to a team in our own division." That's ridiculous.

by carmenfanzone on Jul 17, 2007 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The season
is half over.  After Pittsburgh and Oakland's contributions, we're only paying around 900K for half a season of Kendall.

by Josh77 on Jul 17, 2007 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want Wood
Did I miss the announcement that Kerry Wood was going to pitch this week and get called up? Or was it somebody else? Or was it Sutcliffe just meandering down memory lane again?
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Jul 16, 2007 10:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On Rich Hill....
....Sutcliffe kept saying as the game went on that Hill can't keep pitching from behind in the count as eventually that's what gets him in trouble. He said Hill seems to have a problem focusing when there's two outs and when he's got two strikes. His opinion was borne out more than a few times.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 16, 2007 10:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Theriot
He was ready to make out w/D Lee of how happy he was.
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Jul 17, 2007 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I KNOW!
I thought he was gonna jam his fist up DLee's ass and shake like Izturis did to Rami after his walk off!

What the hell happened to that tradition???

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D. Lee
Its nice to see that guy happy,,,,notice when he crosses the plate with the go ahead run !!!!!!!!!!

by cozmotaylor on Jul 16, 2007 10:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To Those...
who have advocated Sutcliffe or Grace as color men for WGN, please watch Saturday's Fox studio show and tonight's game.  Both are brutal.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Jul 16, 2007 10:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 16, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Sutcliffe......
It was interesting to hear someone who calls the game differently from Len and Bob. I kind of prefer the announcers who are unbaised.
RAMIREZ!! PRIOR!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Jul 16, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that Len and Bob......
are biased in the Hawk Harrelson fashion.
RAMIREZ!! PRIOR!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Jul 16, 2007 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To clairify
No Sutcliffe, No Grace as color men.  However, if the color job ever opened up, Those 2 are the leading candidates, and stumblebum Mark Grant here in SD will also be rushing to apply.
(Grant, a native of Joliet has mentioned on radio -- but NOT Padres TV -- that any Cubs radio & TV job is the best in the biz)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 16, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Grace ...
absolute douchebag.  Good player, jackass of a human being.  And an absolutely God-awful announcer.
Rob Dibble is a juvenile. Why is he on my XM radio? Why is he on my TV? Please, just, make him stop.

by iowaBear on Jul 16, 2007 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could not agree more...
Grace clearly bears a grudge against the Cubs (I'm sure I'd feel that way about an ex-employer that made me rich beyond my wildest dreams and provided a means for me to get more tang than any man should be allowed), not to mention that he's terrible in the booth.

by SouthsideCub on Jul 17, 2007 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmm... Tang
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Jul 17, 2007 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm fine
with Len and Bob.

They're not Harry and Steve, but they certainly beat some other combinations. Sutcliffe and Grace I'm not familiar enough with to have an opinion. Sutcliffe strikes me as kind of avuncular, a good guy but maybe not as keyed in as Brenley.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jul 17, 2007 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a fan of sut
he seems to offer bland, obvious comments, i think len and bob are great, i like len over chip, and i think bob gives some really useful insight and has a great sense of humor
Big Z on Cuban: "Plus, I can be signed by him. You know, I know he has the money for me. Hopefully he can buy the Cubs."

by kylejo on Jul 17, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like
Len and Bob too.
The recipe for success needs a little Marmol-ade.

by sue369 on Jul 17, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally disagree
i see grace give a lot of love towards the cubs when ive seen him on national broadcasts, and personally i think hes hillarious, i like his color comentary
Big Z on Cuban: "Plus, I can be signed by him. You know, I know he has the money for me. Hopefully he can buy the Cubs."

by kylejo on Jul 17, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That grudge was ended
That's why Grace was at CubsFest this winter. Time to suck up for a future gig. There's more action in Chicago than in Scottsdale for the twice-divorced ball player.

But man, I've spent some nights in Scottsdale --  head on a swivel, with all the plastic surgery evident.....

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I changed my mind...
No "Sut" for me!

I'm on the Girardi bandwagon now.

Besides, if our catchers have problems, perhaps he could be available.

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 16, 2007 10:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Won't Dempster be #12 when he's off the DL?
<< a 12th pitcher added. Who that'd be, I'm not sure >>

by ChipSet on Jul 16, 2007 10:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

STOP THROWING TRASH.
IT'S EMBARRASSING AS A CUBS FAN

by dkateeb on Jul 16, 2007 10:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs actually have 12 pitchers right now.
Before the game today Petrick took Bowen's spot on the roster to make 12 pitchers. I assume Kendall will take Soto's spot tomorrow. When Depster comes back, Petrick or Gallegher will probably go down.

by Oscarson1 on Jul 16, 2007 10:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hadn't thought of that.
It's kind of silly to carry three catchers, but I suppose Soto could stay, with Gallagher going back, when Kendall is activated.

At this writing there are still 26 names on the 25-man roster list on the Cubs website, including Kendall.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 17, 2007 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Petrick is the 12th pitcher...
I'd guess Soto will be sent down.  So the roster would be effectively changed this way:

Petrick replaces Bowen (already happened)
Kendall replaces Soto (soon to happen?)

That gives us 12 pitchers and only 2 catchers.  We'd have sent away 2 catchers and brought back one.

If Soto is sent down, the roster makes sense.

by SouthernCub on Jul 17, 2007 5:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One always does have to wonder, though,
what Billy Beane sees in a young pitcher that no one else does. He certainly didn't like the trade because of Rob 'I never met a pitch I didn't like' Bowen.

by bloomerang on Jul 16, 2007 10:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they need a young pitcher
to develop with the apparent inability of harden and street to stay healthy.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 16, 2007 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure...
...I like this trade just yet, but I wouldn't lose too much sleep over Jerry Blevins. Despite Billy Beane's magic powers (and I certainly believe he has them), there's not a whole lot one can say about guys that get converted to relievers in A ball. The real prize for the A's here is getting to start Suzuki, a bona fide prospect and an excellent hitter and defender. This was the A's taking out the trash.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 16, 2007 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope this trade doesn't work out
like Mulder for Haren. Beane has a good eye for pitchers.

by SouthsideCub on Jul 17, 2007 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haren
was pretty much ready for the big leagues when they acquired him, and he was a big-time prospect.  My understanding is the guy the Cubs gave up is a double-A pitcher who's not considered a top-shelf prospect.

by cubsbak on Jul 17, 2007 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's be clear...
...about this. Yes, Blevins is a pitcher. A reliever. From what I've read, this guy's ceiling is as a middle reliever. So, basically, if everything goes right with this kid and the A's get something out of him, they're basically getting a younger Scott Eyre.

If.

The odds of this being anything comparable to the Haren trade are so enormously infintessimal as to be a nonissue. I'm sure Blevins is a good guy and I wish him the best of luck, but to just call him a pitcher ignores the fact that he doesn't have the starting rotation ahead of him.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 17, 2007 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Part of me thinks
Kendall garners so much respect from the A's that this trade was almost a way for them to do right by a guy they like so much. Benching someone who meant a lot to them in a clubhouse and character way was probably a tough pill to swallow for the team, and trading him to the Cubs was a gift.

I have yet to hear from a player traded to the Cubs mid-season who isn't borderline giddy about coming to the Northsiders and hasn't remarked..."I have always wanted to play there..."

I got a guy on the other line about some White Walls...I'll talk to you later

by HeyGundy on Jul 17, 2007 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think maybe the great
Crime Dog could be described as something less than giddy about coming here.

by TR on Jul 17, 2007 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 17, 2007 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a bum
I was at the first game McGriff played for the Cubs in 2001, and the excitement was palpable. But he came in and basically sucked the wind out of what had been a very positive team atmosphere, and I'm sure he contributed to that team's failure to make the playoffs.
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jul 17, 2007 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup
I was at that same game. People forget how hot the team was that year- the collapse was the biggest since the '77 swoon. They had a real vibe about them, and then McGriff arrived. He played poorly at first, but more importantly seemed like he almost resented being there. It's weird how a good player seemingly threw cold water on a hot team.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 17, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorta like, Maddux for Izturis?
<< that this trade was almost a way for them to do right by a guy they like so much >>

by ChipSet on Jul 17, 2007 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yabut...
This one has the A's not taking on much long term.  Itzuris was a very expensive "do the right thing."

by N Oakley on Jul 17, 2007 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Living in the Pacific NW
it's been pissing and moaning about losing Lou since he left the Mariners. More than I've heard re: Randy Johnson, Griffey, Jr. and A-Rod. I'd always assumed that Seattle fans' ire was mis-directed, but now I understand why.

We'll all remember tonight's game for the pitchout and hit/run. What amazing instincts. I'm a believer.

by hipster17 on Jul 16, 2007 11:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's really different
to have a Cubs manager who out-manages the guy in the other dugout.  I don't think that's happened since Durocher.

Lou was the player of the day tonight.

by Clark Addison on Jul 16, 2007 11:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who said a manager doesn't make a difference?
Lou won this game tonight:
  1. He left Hill pitch the 8th inning, thus resting the bullpen. That may win more games in the future.
  2. Lou called the pitch-out that killed the Giants' chances. He outsmarted Bochy.
  3. By having Theriot running in the 8th he moved the 2nd baseman from the spot where Lee hit the ball. Had Lou not ordered the hit and run the inning ends with no runs and we would have probably lost the ballgame.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 16, 2007 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Popeye?
Zimmer could occasionally out-manage a few, but just not consistently.  I liked it when he would go out and argue, his face turned red, and for a brief time he would remind me of Dick the Bruiser.

I believe a key to the resurgence is the rest of the team buying into Lou as manager.  I don't know how much lingering resentment there was from the players when the Toothpicked-one (Baker) was let go, but it seemed like the players had to go through a few months of "courting" with Lou until they found their comfort zone.

Now the players have bought into Lou as leader, and the former leader and malingerer (Barrett) is gone.  While this winning streak is nice, let's see how the new and improved Cubs handle the eventual letdown after losing a series or two (at the most!).

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Jul 17, 2007 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was in the left field bleachers tonight
great, great game, dont know why fans decided to throw trash, pretty stupid on there part especially since somethign good happened for us even though if it were somethin bad its still dumb,  soriano is a great entertainer out in left always lookin back to the fans smiling, showin how many outs there are then hittin his head? practicing his swing, lookin forward to tomorrows game too
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Jul 16, 2007 11:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they planned to throw the trash at Bonds
but since he didn't play the drunks decided to throw it anyway. What a disgrace!

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 16, 2007 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fifteen years and TOTALLY worth it
i came into chicago from austin texas for the pitchfork music festival and i tried to make it to the friday houston game, but my stand-by flight got me here too late and i thought i'd be out of luck for the weekend. but this morning i called texas and told my work i wouldn't be back until tomorrow. i took the el from where i'm staying and spent all day in wrigleyville. the last time i had been to a cubs game in chicago i was 16, just over fifteen years ago. today i bought a seat in section 124, money was no option, and i had one of the best nights i've ever had in a ballpark.

between that cardinals series i saw fifteen years ago i had seen the cubs in seattle (2002?) and in san francisco (i used to live in portland oregon and those were my only options) during the sosa-mcgwire chase and both of those series' were a lot of fun, but nothing like tonight.

you're right al, ramirez's defense has been amazing as of late and that theriot play at short was absolutely beautiful, especially from my point of view. as my dad would have said, 'that's something you only see at a major league game.'

i've been following every game this year from texas on mlb.com and after the last few weeks, even after they were down 2-1 heading into the bottom of the 8th, i just had this feeling that i'd get to hear 'go cubs go' in person, and as a lifetime cubs fan you know how weird that is to say. but there is just something about the way the team has been playing of late that has me in super eternal-optimist mode.

and after the 8th inning ramirez double that sent my section into high-five bliss (both of pinella's hit and runs worked to absolute perfection that inning), i instantly looked into the left field bullpen and saw only howry throwing. my first instinct was, no! where's marmol? or why isn't dempster back yet? or even why haven't we traded for gagne yet?, but the eternal-optimist returned and i knew it didn't matter who threw in the 9th, the cubs had this game. they weren't going to let me go back to austin unhappy.

i know i'm writing a ton and going a little overboard, but for someone who hasn't seen a game at wrigley in 15 years, you have to appreciate how special it was to be there for this game. i feel like i should be knocking on wood with every sentence, but i really feel good about the direction things are heading right now.

i fly back back to austin tomorrow and i'll be back to mlb.com for the rest of the year, but part of tonight is gonna be with me for the rest of the year. let's hope part of tonight stays with the cubs for the rest of the year too.

'hey chicago, what do you say, the cubs are gonna win today.'

that was special. thank you chicago.

by fiveoutsaway on Jul 17, 2007 12:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a great read
How was ptichfork? It was sold out before I could get tickets.

by SouthsideCub on Jul 17, 2007 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks
pitchfork was pretty good. most of the bands played well and the weather and setting was amazing, but they had problems with the sound during the whole festival (speakers cutting out, pa systems way too quiet, etc) and it amde a difference. but overall, my friends and i had a great weekend.

by fiveoutsaway on Jul 17, 2007 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome man
Glad you had a great experience.... both at the ballpark! and during a beautiful weekend for a Chicago summer festival.
1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great...
Thanks for sharing. Makes those of here remember not to take it for granted.
GO CUBS GO!!! INDEED!!!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jul 17, 2007 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lucky, for sure
when i was walking around the neighborhoods before the game i was looking for 'for rent' signs and checking out the prices and doing the math in my head... if only i had gone to depaul... actually, if i had i doubt i would have ever gone to class.

by fiveoutsaway on Jul 17, 2007 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed.
i'm back in austin right now, watching the game on mlb.com, and after being there for last night's game this just doesn't compare.

by fiveoutsaway on Jul 17, 2007 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was special
My only game this year, and my first since '04, was Barrett's last home game, when Bad Rich Hill got absolutely rocked by San Diego. Wish I waited a month.

by JohnM on Jul 17, 2007 6:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My only one was the Dempster meltdown in NY
They lost 6-5 after being up 5-1 in the 9th, if you remember. At that time I thought they'd be lucky to win 50 games all year. What a difference 6 weeks makes.

Go Cubs!

by CubFaninNY on Jul 17, 2007 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, I was at that one, too...
One of my two games this year.  The other was the 8-1 loss against the Mets two days later.

The way the Cubbies are playing lately definitely makes me want to make a trip to Wrigley sometime this year.

by John Q Freejazz on Jul 17, 2007 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got a little lucky with mine
we drove in from Iowa to see Marquis complete game in May and we're coming in August to the Sunday night Mets game.

by brandonb543 on Jul 17, 2007 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good trade...
 That was a good move by the Cubs, picking up Kendall. Here's hoping that batting average of his comes up real soon. The Friendly Confines of Wrigley ought to do wonders for his BA and OBP.
 Go Cubs!!! No homers for Bonds, please!!!!

by txghost3409 on Jul 17, 2007 8:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've said it a million times here on this board:
I WILL NOT SIT IN THE BLEACHERS AT NIGHT OR ON THE WEEKENDS.

Save for a few stalwarts (Al and His Gang), it is nothing but a huge gathering of un-baseball-educated college and yuppie drunks who spend more time staring at their cell phone screens than watching or - God forbid - talking about the game.

I guarantee that every one of the jerks that threw anything on the field last night is denying it today.

It's a real drag that bleacher seats are some of the most affordable GOOD seats in the park.

"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 8:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come sit in 209 with me
And be surrounded by some real fans, who know baseball.
1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet -
I'll take you up on it! I'll be the guy in the Cubs jersey

Ha

Do you have seasons?

"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha.
I share seasons... 20 games.
1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspected this trade would happen
Almost three weeks ago, when Al mentioned a trade with another team with a big contract to unload.
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/comments/2007/7/1/173039/7422/69#69

I think Hendry has been a big fan of Kendall since his days in Pittsburgh.

Overall, I like the move.
Replacing Barrett with Kendall will give some more clubhouse leadership and less bonehead plays.

You have to love Kendall's grittyness(sp?), even if he is having a down year.

Going forward I wouldn't mind seeing Kendall in the 2 spot in the lineup once he heats up a little. Historically he is a good OBP guy.

by GoCubsGo! on Jul 17, 2007 9:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And I brought his name up on June 5
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/story/2007/6/5/143128/0596

But I don't deserve credit because I was only looking at taking him as a way to get Travis Buck.  

The call of the Cub fan, c. 1893: "one long, ravaged, derisive yell...a cyclonic whoop!"

by zambranofan on Jul 17, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned Kendall back in December...
...OK, I never said anything about Kendall...
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Jul 17, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Nostradamus write.........
........a quatrain about this?

To the City of The Wind, a stubby, stubbly man comes from the west his bat having recently betrayed........

"In the olden days, the umpire didn't have to take any courses in mind reading. The pitcher told you he was going to throw at you." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Jul 17, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice call...
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Going to the game tonight
Let's hope the rain stays away and that Marshall Brings It tonight!

I used to watch the standings a lot and worry so much about gaining ground, losing ground, but not so much anymore. I like the way the Cubs are playing and really enjoying being a fan. The standings will take care of themselves.

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Jul 17, 2007 9:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If we rain out tonight
What are the chances of making it up tomorrow in a DH?

I've got tix for tonight and tomorrow. Never been to a double header. That would be sweeet!

1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would almost have to be a conventional DH...
... not a split DH. It's too short notice to get enough employees to work a split DH, plus there's a day game on Thursday.

If -- and let's hope for the best and there isn't -- there's a rainout, I'd expect a doubleheader at noon tomorrow.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 17, 2007 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kendall
I think the important part about the Kendall deal is that it's really not a risk on the Cubs part.  They give up a catcher who's been terrible and a minor leaguer who probably wasn't gonna be "great" for an experienced catcher.  

If it works out and he's a great addition to this team, great, and it will be a good deal.  If it doesn't, then well, it doesn't really matter because he really can't be worse than Bowen and he's not really cost them any money so they could just cut him and go back with Hill and Soto anyways.  

Sounds like a no-lose situation, and I like the effort by Hendry to make an early move.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jul 17, 2007 9:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kendall's got the best catcher's ERA in MLB
1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A friend said
Kendall is not an upgrade defensively (aka...Barrett clone).  Is this true?

i thought he was a good defensive catcher but I am not too familiar with his career.

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

@ 33, he's not going to throw a lot of guys out,
but he calls a great game and protects the plate like it's his kid. He'll be able to work with the vets and the kids alike. He's had a couple of injuries, but try to find a 33-yr-old backstop that doesn't look like a punching bag.

He's an upgrade over the 2 minor leaguers and the MLB back-up we had, that's for sure. Hill and Soto (through whatever contact he has w/ Kendall) will learn a TON from this guy.

"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
IAs long as they play good defense, I am very happy, especially if the Cubs are really only paying 1 mil.  I know Lou wants defense over offense so it appears he go tthat with more potential for offense.  Great move JH!
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yepper -
A good catcher should pretty much go unnoticed back there. I caught for a long time; a good catcher won't cost you games, a great catcher will win a few for ya.

Catching's tough psychologically, too - the TV camera's looking right at you every single pitch. Everyone notices every mistake you make, but rarely the great plays. You get blamed for a lot, and praised for little.

That said, there's no more enjoyable position to be played. You run the entire show from back there. You can play well into your 30s.

"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kendall's got 7 passed balls
Compared to Barrett's 10.
Both not exactly defensive wizards behind the plate, however I'm not what kind of staff Kendall was catching in Oakland. were there some guys with major breaking stuff over there? Or not?  

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=9&season=2007&seasonType=2&split=78 &sortOrder=true&sortColumn=fieldingPct

1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like his numbers
PB can certainly be a result of his former staff.  I'll take that chance with those numbers and hopefully the O will pickup.  
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oakland and Boston lead the majors in ERA
What comes first the chicken or the egg?  I think CERA is a very questionable stat to use especially when comparing catchers across different teams with different home parks.  All reports though say that Kendall is a good catcher though.  

by rlpete on Jul 17, 2007 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just told
the Cubs are only paying 1m of Kendall's salary. If that's the case, I like this move even more.

by SouthsideCub on Jul 17, 2007 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They said on that one eastern network...
that he is just a great leader to have in the clubhouse.  Barrett was the opposite, and Bowen didn't seem to have much of a dominant personality.

by WartburgCub on Jul 17, 2007 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a different subject
With the Yanks just about out of it, Abreu might be had.  I would like to see him in a Cub uniform for the rest of the year playing RF fulltime.  His power is down, but he is still a good veteran that walks a lot.  Anybody have an opinion on this?
PC load letter, what the f*** does that mean?

by cubfaninSTL on Jul 17, 2007 9:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yanks

are over .500 now.  I'll bet they won't be selling; those guys in Boston have blown big 2nd half leads in the past.

by salparadise23 on Jul 17, 2007 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

word.
The Yanks are far from out of it.  They've been making a nice run over the past month or so.  I heard on Mike and Mike this morning they are the fourth hottest team (behind us, the Mariners, and someone I've forgot) the last month.

I doubt they would consider getting rid of Abreu.  

by pollymerase on Jul 17, 2007 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love it..
As long as they don't give up the entire farm. I have no idea what the Yanks would want that we would be willing to part with...the idea of acquiring Abreu though is great.
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jul 17, 2007 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't see the Yankees throwing in the towel
this early.  There's also the wiold card.  Cleveland has swooned before too.  

by rlpete on Jul 17, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know man...
can't help but want a little more if we make a trade of that nature.  By that nature, I mean involving the Yanks, and that will cost us some good prospects.
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 9:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a big fan of trading w/ the Yankees at all,
though I like them on the whole.

They'll drive a hard bargain. But, we do have a plethora (hefe - what is a plethora?) of young talent. I just don't think I want Abreu. Unbelievable arm, but I dunno. I'd love Nady.

"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Side note...
I checked BrewCrew Ball and their poll on who the Kendall trade benefits and the Brewers got most of the votes (or at least the most now).  Does this make sense to anyone?

Or...are they just scared about the Cubs comin and not taking the poll seriously?

Can it benefit the Brewers?  How?  because Bowena and the minor leaguer were our driving force and now we will cool off?  Because Kendall will call bad games and we will start losing?  Or because they are making yet another poor attempt at humor?

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 10:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They posted somrthi ng the other day
that, to me, indicated that they see the Cubs getting closer and closer in the rear-view mirror.
"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figured as much
kinda funny if you ask me.  Can't post there though, I've been banned.  Ha!  What a joke!
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe
my comments here, bothered them and they took them back and bitched and moaned.  then I attempted an explanation (sort of a peace offering...kind of admittedly) and they bitched more and then banned me.

I think there was actually someone going there to taunt and antagonize and that was also unappreciated.  

All in all, it is a childish way to run a blog however, it is his choice.  No love lost.

MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, no problem
I've been banned from the Angels site, if you can believe that.

It happened during the forlorn Angels 2005 ALCS. And, I wasn't even hyping the WS. These idiots kept insulting ALL Chicago baseball fans, so I decided another point of view was necessary.

And, I told "The Rev" (The braniac who runs the site) what's with all the obscenity? Unlike Al, this guy seems to think obscenity is necessary in his blog for 'free speech.'

I then asked him if his children read the blog--
I was banned for THAT comment. He e-mailed me and said you're out....acting like a little baby, who couldn't take a loss. (Which he couldn't.)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My vote just now...
put the Cubs in the lead:
A's 20 total votes
Cubs 52 total votes
Brewers 51 total votes
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Jul 17, 2007 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's the most action...
...brew crew ball has had all year!

ha ha ha

:)

"And Cubs fans: Play nice or go home." - Jeff Sackmann

by ilovepie on Jul 17, 2007 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just voted for the Cubs
It's probably getting annoying for them to realize more Cubs fans visit their site than Brewers fans.  
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 17, 2007 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,
I think they should just realize that this is "Internet" and not "BrewerNet".

by cubsnlinux on Jul 17, 2007 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

makes sense.
Does this make sense to anyone?

I'll take a crack at the explanation if you are genuinely curious. Are you a stats guy or not?

by jacob on Jul 17, 2007 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some NL Central Splits on Kendall
vs B. Sheets: 42ABs .286/.318/.333/.652
vs S. Chacon: 13ABs .385/.471/.692/1.163
vs D. Weathers: 18ABs .389/.500/.556/1.056
vs A. Harang: 15ABs .267/.389/.400/.789
vs B. Looper: 10ABs .500/.545/.600/1.145
vs R. Oswalt: 36ABs .417/.462/.472/.934
vs W. Williams: 35ABs .514/.553/.657/1.210
vs J. Jennings: 13ABs .308/.400/.385/.785
1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SOLD!
"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks nice.
Those numbers are sweet. Maybe more time in the NL Central will be good for the Offense.
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 17, 2007 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about...
Chris Carpenter? Mark Mulder?...Todd Wellemeyer?

by WartburgCub on Jul 17, 2007 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't matter what he did vs. those guys
Carpenter--injured

Mulder--injured

Wellenmeyer--bad and in the 'pen now

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 17, 2007 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...
wellemeyer was a joke.  ha ha.

by WartburgCub on Jul 17, 2007 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not enough of a sample size
vs J. Isringhausen: 14ABs .143/.368/.357/.726
vs R. Franklin:    14ABs .143/.250.143/.393

----

vs C. Carpenter: 7ABs .143/.143/.143/.286
vs M. Mulder: 6ABs .167/.286/.167/.452
vs T. Wellemeyer: 3ABs .333/.500/.667/1.167

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=3401&teamId=24

1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

VS SF and Arizona
Giants
Tue. Marshall (4-3) vs    Zito (6-9)
Wed. Zambrano (11-7) vs    Cain (3-10)
Thu. Lilly (9-4) vs Morris (7-5)    

vs B. Zito: 4ABs .250/.250/.250/.500
vs M. Morris: 42ABs 42 .214/.250/.238/.488
vs M. Cain: 11ABs .273/.385/.273/.657

Diamondbacks
Fri. Marquis (6-5) vs Webb (8-7)    
Sat. Hill (6-6) vs Owings (5-5)
Sun. Marshall (4-3) vs     Petit (1-1)

vs B. Webb: 7ABs .286/.375/.286/.661

1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW... we've got some GREAT splits vs Morris
Aramis Ramirez 40ABs .300/.341/.575/.916
Derrek Lee 28ABs .357/.438/.893/1.330
Daryle Ward 23ABs .348/.360/.522/.882

Ward will definitely be in RF on Thursday

OK, enough with the splits... time to do some actual work today.

1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the Splits...
Sack.

Let's just say, he should feel right at home in the NL Central!

Did you get his Wrigley splits, man?

I have memories of him ALWAYS killing us with key hits when Kendall was on the Pirates.

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 17, 2007 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yadda yadda yadda...
Please don't make this look like the Brew Crew Ball home page.

And leave the stats up to Professor Falken and The WOPR

"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 10:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Greetings Professor Falken
How about a nice game of chess?

by cubsbak on Jul 17, 2007 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way to win
is not to play.

Funny how Matthew Broderick looks exactly the same these days, but Ally Sheedy looks like she fell out of a tree and hit every branch on the way down

"Alou backwards is Uola!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 17, 2007 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rich Hill's curve last night
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but Rich COMPLETELY changed his curveball last night. He didn't throw the Zito-esque 12to6 curve even once last night. He instead appeared to be throwing a cruve that moved almost like Kerry Wood's old "slurve."

It seemed to be more effective than the 12/6 curve.

by SouthsideCub on Jul 17, 2007 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Observation
and I think he did that because he was having a hard time throwing the 12-6 curve for strikes.  The 12-6 curve can be a very effective pitch, but it can be a challenge to command, and also it can be difficult for the umpire to call, because of how it breaks through the strike zone.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 17, 2007 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He actually threw
one big 12-6'er, to Aurilia. It hung up in the zone and Aurilia took a huge hack and just missed it. He never went back to it that I saw...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 17, 2007 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that
and also looked like a few either changeups or cutters in there as well. Or were they sliders? Something did look a bit different...
D-LEE!

by airweino on Jul 17, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team
is reminding me more and more of the 1984, 1989, 1998 and 2003 Cubs teams that always found a way to win the games they should have lost. Like in 1984 when Sandberg hit two homers off Sutter as the Cubs came back from being down 7-1, 9-3, 11-9 and won 12-11. Or the 1989 Les Lancaster game, when relief pitcher Lancaster doubled to win the game in extra innings. Or the heroics we saw from guys like Rod Beck and Gary Gaetti in 1998. It seems like, as with those teams, every player is contributing and you don't know who might be a hero on any given night.

After the way the Cubs started out this year, I never thought I'd be writing a message like this. I sure will be eating crow if they make the post-season considering some of the comments I made here in May.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jul 17, 2007 12:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I reiterate my post from the Texas series
that this team reminds me of the 2003 Florida Marlins.  I was lambasted pretty badly back then, but that team got hot around the same time we did and NEVER cooled off.  Sure wouldn't mind the same outcome as that 2003 Marlins team either.  

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jul 17, 2007 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see the similarities...
but I think they're pitching staff was superior to our current rotation.
MARQUIS! YES, MARQUIS!

by thekansasian on Jul 17, 2007 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To some extent
The 1984, 1989 and 2003 staffs were definitely better. The 1998 staff was similar - it really didn't have an ace, unless you call Kevin Tapani an ace. Wood was great, but he missed a month to injury. The rest of the staff was hit and miss. Beck was better than Dempster, however, as closer.
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jul 17, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's just hope
this keeps up and for years going forward, teams start comparing themselves to the '07 Cubs.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jul 17, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wood Missed a Month...
to INJURY??

REALLY?? (sighs with fond rememberances)

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 17, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet you Wood contributes this season.
I have no reasonable belief as to why this will happen, but it just seems like all the planets are aligned for this team right now and nothing would surprise me, including a healthy Kerry Wood for the last couple months.  

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jul 17, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

None of those teams had:
3 catchers and 4 left fielders :)
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by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me...
This team doesn't remind me of any of those teams to a large degree. Some like all of them.

There is one ACE -

Two young lefties who are pretty good, another one who is solid, and a 4th starter (Marquis) who pitches one game well, then three or four bad ones.

No one is hitting for power really.

Ain't no "lights out" closer (although Marmol is on the edge).

Base stealing whiz - well, we have some speed, but no one has emerged as Bobby Dernier or Eric Young yet.

Catching corps? C'mon...

Only one Ryno. Period.

I could go on and on, but I won't.

Suffice to say, its an exciting team to watch now and let's hope it does not revert to it's evil self again this year!

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 17, 2007 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

While we are comparing...
the closing situation reminds me of the '04 Angels.  Frankie Rodriguez was the 8th inning guy, while I believe it was Percival that closed games.  K-Rod was the scary one... kinda like Dempster and Marmol.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jul 17, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You misinterpreted my original post
I'm not saying this team compares with those teams on a position-by-position basis. Compared with the 1984 team, for instance, this club is way, way down the ladder talent-wise.

All I meant was, they're making a habit of winning games I thought they'd lose, and that's what brought the memories of those other teams. There's no way to know if they can keep it up, but let's hope.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jul 17, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way
That response I just wrote was meant for EMan.
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jul 17, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh - o.k. whatever...
I don't think I was the only one that "misinterpreted" your post.

But that's cool. Whatever brings back pleasant Cub memories is fine by me.

Winning teams find a way to come from behind. But in reading many interviews and hearing sound bytes, there certainly was a lot of work put in by Lou to try to change around this losing culture.

Again, its a big leap to go from, "What's gonna go wrong next?", to "We are coming out of this on top - no matter what!"

During April and May, they grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory too many times.

IF they had hung on to just 2 or three of them when they had substantial leads in late innings, I have no doubt we'd be in the lead now.

But, there is plenty of baseball left and if it comes down to it, a BIG showdown in Wrigley at the end of August.

And THAT would remind ME of the Cardinals series in 2003.

All in all, isn't it great to watch a team where every game means something?

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 17, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been predicting that big August showdown for
a while now.

I think it's going to be exciting.

If it comes down to one game I think I might have to start taking heart medication.

phat

by phatass on Jul 17, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
The irony here is that the BREW just WILL NOT LOSE.

So f-ing frustrating.

Thay have been winning all of the close games and only have had one minor slide earlier in the year.

I just do not see them going wall-to-wall.

But they do have excellent balance (bastards).

And, a catcher!

THAT'S one that got away.

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 17, 2007 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talent of 84 and today
I disagree, this Cubs team has better talent then the 84 team.  Pinella himself said he's never coached a more talented team than this one, that's saying quite a bit

by ItCouldBEmightBEitIS on Jul 17, 2007 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If ESPN hasn't screwed up enough lately
They have us playing a triple header vs the Cardinals on Friday September 14, followed by a double header on the 15th. LOL

Fri. 14 at St. Louis     8:10 PM                
Fri. 14 at St. Louis     2:40 PM
Fri. 14 at St. Louis     8:40 PM         
Sat. 15 at St. Louis     1:05 PM
Sat. 15 at St. Louis     8:10 PM
Sun. 16 at St. Louis     2:15 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/schedule?team=chc

1-RUN GAMES = 12-15 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 24-21 | updated on 7/16

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2007 3:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
That'd be interesting, starting one game at 8:10 and another one thirty minutes later. You'd have an awful lot of people on the field, not to mention two baseballs flying around.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 17, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a bad idea
Imagine how much faster we could get through the season if we played a minimum of two games a day.

Or imagine how much MORE baseball could be played in such a scenario.

I'm all about more baseball. Even if it doesn't abide by the rules of the space-time continuum.

by WittyUserName on Jul 17, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please notice that it was on ESPN
Sincerely,

Marshall for Kendall

by MrDurdenclone on Jul 17, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happened
to the original Mr.Durden? Haven't seen him for a while.

And what happened to Mike63, anyway?

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jul 17, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for the record...
Jeff couldn't find the "special" donuts at either 7-11 in the vicinity of Wrigley. This loss falls squarely on his shoulders.

No excuses tomorrow!

E - N - O - D

by bison on Jul 17, 2007 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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