Izturis just traded to Pittsburgh

by CA Cub Fan on Jul 19, 2007 11:55 AM CDT Comment 32 comments

This is not exactly surprising but the fact Fox was brought up and not Cedeno is odd to me. Guess they wanted a RH hitting 1B backup with Lee down for the next 4 games.

Here is the link...
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20070719&content_id=209599 3&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

The cubs get the dreaded PTBNL...

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Happy

I am so happy about this trade.

My guess is Cedeno will be up in a week. However, his bat has gone colder in the past couple weeks so maybe Lou is waiting for a spark from him? Granted he's at .362 BA which is great, it's still dropped.

by ak123 on Jul 19, 2007 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I feel bad for PTBNL

he get shopped around so much

by NIUcubbie on Jul 19, 2007 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Also,

The poor guy has a very difficult to pronounce name!

Eamus Ursuli!

by WGNstatic on Jul 19, 2007 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

PTBNL

Maybe the PTBNL will end up being Izturis. I think this happened to the Cubs once before, when they traded Dickie Noles for a PTBNL and the PTBNL turned out to be Noles.

Actually, I just checked Baseballreference.com. According to it, the Cubs "loaned" Noles to the Tigers in Sept. 1987, when the Tigers were in the playoff hunt and the Cubs were in last place, and got him back the following month.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Jul 19, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Next up...

Jones and Eyre...

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Jul 19, 2007 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hmmm....this is interesting

Cubs did not promote Cedeno but promoted Fox who is playing a utility role, could it be he is replacing Derrick Lee during the suspension period but also with Kendall being full time Cubs could be packaging K Hill.

Does this mean a roster spot remains open?

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Jul 19, 2007 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Likely.....

...there's nothing all that complicated going on here. With Lee out for another four games, the Cubs wanted another player for first base. When Ward is there, it takes away from any possibility he could fill in at right field. So, up comes Fox. To make room for Fox, Izturis was already jettisoned. When Lee's suspension is over, down goes Fox and up comes Cedeno.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 19, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with this entirely...

...let's hope Fox can hit a few dingers during this cup o' coffee.

Brew Crew: We are coming for you. (And we mean it this time.)

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 19, 2007 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that would be a good move

The next week or so will be interesting. Someone needs to watch Jones and Eyre's apartment and see if movers or cleaners are coming....

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Jul 19, 2007 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hoping

that this turns out to be like the '03 Ramirez/Simon trade ... that ptbl can be very valuable!

by mrmaroon25 on Jul 19, 2007 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Do ya think the PTBNL...

...will be as "grabby" as Izturis?

Brew Crew: We are coming for you. (And we mean it this time.)

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 19, 2007 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't this mean

that Hendry gave away Maddux for nothing? Isn't that exactly what he said he didn't want to do last season?

by cubsbak on Jul 19, 2007 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Some would say

we were going to lose Maddux anyway, so we took a flier on Izturis and it just didn't work out.

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by danimal15 on Jul 19, 2007 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good point

I actually thought Izturis would be a useful addition. But I was appalled at how much his game (particularly defensively) had slipped. Hendry really screwed up with that move.

by cubsbak on Jul 19, 2007 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually no

It's unfortunate but we gave up Maddux for a PTBNL and about 5 months worth of Izturis. Probably would have been better off with just the PTBNL but that's baseball....

Where is Izzy gonna play for the Bucs? Did something happen to Jack Wilson? Do they have an open infield spot for Cesar?

Afaik the Pirates don't have much in the way of prospects and I can't imagine they'd give up any of their best to acquire another good glove no bat shortstop so we probably won't get much back. Addition by subtraction is what we'll gain though.

Godspeed Izzy, we know you won't come back to haunt us.

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by pageian on Jul 19, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wilson's fallen out of favor with the Bucs.

They're shopping Jack Wilson (and his 5 mil salary), so Izzy is probably a solution til the end of the season for them.

by carmenfanzone on Jul 19, 2007 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well....

How bad do you have to fall out of favor in Pittsburgh to get them to replace you with Cesar Izturis? Oh well, the Pirates were stupid for paying Wilson like they did. Check out his stats, one descent year that was a real outlier statistically from anything else he'd ever done. I think he was on something that year.

I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. - Robert McCloskey

by pageian on Jul 20, 2007 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In Cesar's words...

' "I just want to play every day and now I get an opportunity to go to Pittsburgh. I don't know the situation over there, but I'm going to miss this team," Izturis said.

"There are a lot of good people around here. Good team, but it's business. ... I have to give credit to the young guys like Theriot and (Mike) Fontenot, they bring energy for the team."

Izturis will be reunited with his former Dodgers manager Jim Tracy, who is now the Pirates' skipper.

"Good, especially with a manager that you played before with him and got your confidence. That's good," Izturis said. '

by JFCubFan on Jul 19, 2007 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Pretty Classy....

... mentioning Theriot and Fontenot as he did was a nice thing to do. Here's hoping he regains his form under Tracy.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 19, 2007 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cesar added...

..."I particularly look forward to playing behind great hitters like Sanchez and Bay and congratulating them heartily when they return the dugout."

Freddy Sanchez and Jason Bay could not be reacharound for comment.

Brew Crew: We are coming for you. (And we mean it this time.)

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 19, 2007 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

n/t

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by zambranofan on Jul 19, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm suprised

Hendry actually got something for Izturis from the Pirates. I thought he was supposed to go to a contending AL team. Oh well, either way it fortells additional moves.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jul 19, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How long

until Izturis gets busted for using amphetamines now? Man what were the Pirates thinking? Hendry needs to have Dave Littlefield and Wayne Krivsky on speed dial. It's pretty obvious neither ones knows his ass from a hole in the ground.

I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. - Robert McCloskey

by pageian on Jul 19, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why?

Izturis is better than their current backup infielders. The Cubs are evidently sending money with Izturis and the contract is over at the end of the year. The PTBNL is probably a mediocre prospect at best. Why shouldn't the Pirates say yes?

It's not the same as Neifi who has another year under contract.

by rlpete on Jul 19, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

MLB

tradesrumors.com suggests the Cubs might be working to get Nady from the Pirates. That would be a very nice addiiton.

by jazzypete on Jul 19, 2007 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes, it would.

n/t

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by Al on Jul 19, 2007 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

good bye

izzy go grab jason bay now

by tbizzle83 on Jul 19, 2007 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I wish

it would be as easy as just telling Hendry to do so.

hey, hey, cubs win.

by cubbyblue137 on Jul 19, 2007 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

yea i hear that

by tbizzle83 on Jul 19, 2007 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder

how many games Izturis will win with his glove?

by Peoria Matt on Jul 20, 2007 6:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why would the Pirates

trade Xavier Nady??

by nickler on Jul 20, 2007 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What does he get in return

I enjoy the banter, but I was wondering if anyone has a thought on who you would get in return for Izturis? Double A prospect? Would you even get that? Or, is it conditional to wait and see how valuable he is to the Pirates? I can't imagine why, they aren't going to make the playoffs.

by Nibbles on Jul 20, 2007 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs