how much is it worth
after having spent the weekend in chicago this weekend and going 0-2 i was disscussing with some friends the cost they were willing to pay for the future.
it basically came down to this, if i told you that i could gaurentee the cubs would win the world series but every prospect except three, any three, would be gone from the system and every piece that was acquired had no gaurentee of being able to be back next year, final year of the contract type of deal, would you do it??
is a gaurentee at the good stuff worth knowing that the next few years would prolly be the worst we had seen in a while? i honestly dont know what i think...but i do know how much winning one would mean, and how much we have lost and been bad already, so what is a few more years of that if you can gaurentee the big W?
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Maybe because I'm only 21
I much rather have a team that can compete for a few years than a one-hit wonder.
this is of course
by sniddlycubbie on Jul 23, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
also
by sniddlycubbie on Jul 23, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
re: also
(And, yeah, I'd do it. After all, Mark Cuban is going to buy the team, so the Cubs won't need these...how you say?..."prospects".)
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2007 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
didnt Hendry try to take this deal?
In all honesty i think most Cubs fans would take the chance at a world series season in a heartbeat
to a lot of people their relationship with the Cubs represents or is tied to family through some way, shape, or form in their life and i believe most would take the shot at knowing they could celebrate a title with current family members or friends and in honor of other family members that couldn't see it before
with that said, i was very disappointed in the way this offseason was handled from a long-term planning perspective for this franchise, i thought the best turn around we could hope for was to put us in the 83-88 win category range for 2-3 years, while severely restricting the team for years 4-8 down the line due to some of the heavy backloading of contracts given to guys who should be well past their prime 3-4 years from now... of course if you're lucky enough to win a WS while being an 83-88 win team (like the Cards did last year) then all would be forgiven
i just believe the GM's goal is to do everything they can to put a consistent winner out there, and the best GM's have shown the easiest way to do this if you dont have limitless pockets is to avoid super long-term deals and long-term committment to players over the age of 30 while continuing to invest resources into the farm system. It's a cheaper source of labor and one where minimal added investments can mean huge long-term returns
i think this organization has struggled with that concept for a long time and this off-season was another example of that
with that said, its done and in the past and i'm rooting like heck every day for this team to prove me wrong and make all of our wildest dreams come true
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 23, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions
Probably would...
- it's hard to value future happiness as compared to the present
- there's no guarantee that keeping our team (and prospects) would ever result in a championship later on
- there's no guarantee that gutting the team after the championship would result in the team sucking for a long time. With free agency and the lack of a salary cap, anything can happen.
For an example of this...
That's tough to take -- but they've still got that title to remember. No one can ever take that away from them.
I'd like to know how that feels.
i know this might get ridiculed
yes the ending was heartbreakingly painful
but that was the most fun i've had watching a Cubs team in my lifetime (only 25 years old) and I remember it vividly and still think upon that season with a big smile on my face
a lot of times the joy of the journey gets lost in the end result (same with the '06 bears) and to be able to have that type of journey again would be another unforgettable series of memories... and to have it capped off with the icing on the cake of a championship... WOW... i'm getting starry-eyed just thinking about it
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 23, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed, somewhat
There are very few things
by mike on Jul 23, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions
Marmol doesnt count
so i'm keeping Pie, Vitters, and Colvin
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 23, 2007 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
those three are at the discretion
by sniddlycubbie on Jul 23, 2007 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Hypothetical
hopefully
i hope you're right, but i dont think we can take for granted that these guys will still be as good as they are now when they're 33-34-35
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 23, 2007 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
35 today
hard to say
despite the decline being slower now for players than it ever was before there's still a decline nonetheless as hitters still tend to peak somewhere between the years of 26-31
and trying to predict pitchers effectiveness 3-4 years down the line is a crapshoot
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 23, 2007 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano IS 31.
The 1976 birth date is legit.
fair enough
still at 31, you'd have to admit he's "likely" to be hitting the decline phase of his career relatively soon
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 23, 2007 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Throw in....
Easiest question I've had all day.
by Goat Whisperer on Jul 23, 2007 11:37 PM CDT reply actions
The future is never certain...
Next year never comes.
I would trade any and every player if it meant the Cubs would win a world series this year.
You play for the year every time.
by Chad on Jul 24, 2007 1:44 AM CDT reply actions

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