Get Kenny Lofton!!
I've already given up on getting Griffey. Just going to be too costly and the Cubs don't have enough prospect depth to make a strong offer.. Hopefully, I'm wrong tho.
Lofton's obp is .378, and he'd be an ideal 60-70 game rental. Murton or Cedeno should be of interest to TX, and the Cubs could throw in a pitching prospect..
The Cubs are getting very little out of CF and catcher currently, and Fontenot could cool off any day.. Lofton gives the Cubs 6 reliable hitters (Sori, Lofton, Lee, ARam, Floyd & DeRosa). Sure the Cubs could use more power, with Lee becoming a singles and doubles hitter, but I doubt they address the lack of power at the deadline.
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we shouldnt have...
Yeah, preferrably someone who can play
Memo
Pagan and Murton are 4th and 5th outfielders on a good team..
Pie isn't ready..
So currently the Cubs have 2 outfielders (Soriano and Floyd), and Floyd's healthy is shaky...
And we need old declining OF's?
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 7, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
No thanks to a .378 obp
lofton would be sweet
I watched Lofton
He has more stolen bases this year than any cub.
We could probably put that sort of "decline" to use on the Cubs, wouldn't you think?
i often wander....
so you think pagan should be
I think you missed the sarcasm...
by HanOfTheBluegrass on Jul 7, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
so here's what i would do
Why
by Frustrated Fan on Jul 7, 2007 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i would almost bet
Lofton is
I'd give up any combo of Izturis, Jones and Eyre for him but definitely not Murton who is working out in RF in Iowa. Maybe a middling prospect added would be OK. No Patrick. However, I certainly wouldn't get him as long as Jones is on the roster. Your expectations for his departure, I hope, are not overstated.
his .333 obp v. LHP is decent
If Hendry
So you rent
.331 actually
Pagan can competently play all 3 OF positions, and can hit nearly as well... Has more speed too.
Altho Pagan hasn't been given regular playing time, and has nearly as many at-bats as Murton, his ops is 100 points higher than Murton's...
.363 really
But my point was, only a foolish GM would risk a potential .300/.360 26 year old player for 70 days of a 40 year old CF. I stand by that conclusion.
And I stand by the conclusion
So dishonest
Yeah, lets hang onto Murton's 1 home run....
FYI
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=444875
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=150218
Murton's career OPS is .804 as I said. Jones OPS this year is .629.
But at least you did get one fact correct. Murton has 1 HR this year which is obviously much less than Jones total of 2. Of course Jones does have almost twice as many AB's.
May I suggest that before calling someone dishonest, you might want to learn how to read a stat table, but that's just me.
You know what I meant
Let me get this right
OK. I accept your apology. And from now on I won't imply you're an idiot.
.667 ops LF's are
.804 OPS really
No
Yes he is
Who do you want to take off the 25 man roster to make room for Lofton or have you ignored that fact also?
You'd send down Pie
I believe
And while you may feel Murton is valueless, many others feel quite the opposite. They see the exchange of a 26 year old player with a .363 OBP lifetime for 70 days in the life of a 40 year old making ten times the salary as further evidence of muddled thinking.
No doubt
It must be quite a burden
This from a guy
Also
I know logic
On the other hand, all I claimed was that trading Murton for Lofton was a bad idea. I'd guess that you might have to rethink your vision of arrogance.
Wrong
And I disagree with your opinion that trading Murton for Lofton is a bad idea. It would be a steal.
Wow
Ha ha
If that's what you
Then your
It's hard to debate
Wisdom?
Although your post is obviously complete nonsense, I do agree with the part where you admit you're a fool. Probably the smartest thing you've said all day.
imo
as of right now..
I think some big market team
The Cubs may have to DFA Izturis. He's just clogging up a roster space. I'd rather see Cedeno get another shot..
As for Jones, doesn't seem anyone wants to pay anything for him and the Cubs aren't willing to give him up for free. Sooo he may end up staying.. Regardless gotta send down Pie and get a CF. I like Pagan as a 4th OF, but he's not an everyday player..
Big market
As for Izturis, if we won't DFA Jones or Eyre, what makes you think whoever makes decisions on the team now is willing to eat Caesar's salary?
Keep up the good thoughts.
Izturis isn't signed through
I can't help if
So I'm stupid and
Your words
The namecalling WILL STOP.
Oh christ Al
I never said
If Izturis is DFA'd, we will eat his salary until the contract term is over. Since the team seems disinclined to eat salary, I doubt they would be willing to do so even in the short term. I could be wrong, but I just don't see him leaving.
However, if he is cut or traded I will gladly apologize for my presumption.
I was just pointing out the difference...
Please excuse me
Perhaps if you spent more time trying to elevate your writing level, you'd be half the man you'd like others to believe you are.
It's making moves
6mil is a large chunk of change for a rental.
by Faith plus 1 on Jul 7, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
How's he a $6 mil rental?
Grand scheme of things = getting into the playoffs this year..
He's a rental
Pass.
by Faith plus 1 on Jul 9, 2007 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
for one
His fielding is HORRIBLE.
is very bad. We have enough veterans and enough outfielders.
The Cajun twins can steal the bases. He is seriously in steady
decline. Maybe we should not have let him go but I don't want him back.
Right now the ONLY thing worth trading for is a catcher. Everything else out there is going to be worthless or too expensive for our needs ( We are not going to win bidding wars
for Buhrle or Gagne etc but what other team is out sniffing for half way decent catcher ?)
by jessica on Jul 8, 2007 8:27 AM CDT reply actions
hlofton
A mistake?
Al...
by Damen Jackson on Jul 8, 2007 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe because...
so
I like watching
precisely
And that, sums up
Perhaps with Bradley now in the line-up, and if he hits, there will be less of Barrett, and when he does play, he'll be pulled for defensive purposes if the Pads are ahead.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 8, 2007 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
Lofton
Lofton's having a very impressive year. At the plate he's better than ever - he's hitting .301 and has 37BBs to 25Ks. He's lost a step in CF and probably needs to be rested once or twice a week if you want him to have any gas left come October. Most of his steals came in April and May.
As far as what the Rangers would want, they don't need a light hitting corner outfielder or a middle infielder. They'd be more interested in minor league pitching.
He's owed approx 3 million on the remainder of his contract. I bet the Rangers would throw some cash your way if that made the ownership/mlb happier with the deal.
by randytx on Jul 8, 2007 8:16 PM CDT reply actions

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