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Movie Review: "The Bourne Ultimatum" and Thursday Cubs Game Recap

Before last night's game I went to see the movie that's "The Number One Movie At The Box Office!" (to quote only one of the hype-filled lines I've heard about this film), The Bourne Ultimatum.

It is absolutely as advertised -- non-stop action from pretty much the first scene to the last, in cities all around the world, from Moscow to London to Madrid to Tangier to New York, and you have to suspend your disbelief at times, just as in the first two Bourne films, because in some of the action/chase scenes you know, you absolutely KNOW, that there's no way that any human being could survive what Jason Bourne goes through.

And yet he does, and you root feverishly for him to escape the CIA higher-ups who are desperately trying to prevent him from finding out and revealing the secret stuff they've been doing. David Strathairn, who had that perpetually puzzled/harried look on his face as the president of Marshall University in last year's "We Are Marshall", does it again here as a CIA deputy chief. Joan Allen reprises her role from "The Bourne Supremacy" as the only good person in the CIA, the one who's going to blow the whistle and make everything come out OK, and Matt Damon again plays Jason Bourne (who, this time, wants to find out who he really is) with grim determination. There's a brief love interest played impishly by Julia Stiles, and although most things about Jason Bourne are wrapped up in a neat little package (after they destroy pretty much every car in Manhattan), there are enough loose ends left in case director Paul Greengrass and the producers want to make another Bourne film.

Given the success of this one -- and it's well worth seeing, the action scenes are terrific -- it wouldn't surprise me at all if there's another one in a couple more years.

AYRating for the movie:

Meanwhile, in Denver, the Cubs apparently took their cue from this film, scoring early and often in a 10-2 blowout of the Rockies, a very good way to begin what is likely to be a tough four-game series, and they did it without Alfonso Soriano and Aramis Ramirez. And, apparently, neither injury is as serious as once feared. Soriano's talking about returning earlier than the team's projected September 1 date, and after some breathless emails and other speculation I received yesterday that Ramirez was "OUT FOR THE YEAR!!!11!!", his MRI revealed no structural damage and he's had a cortisone shot, may miss the Rockies series, but will likely be ready to return next Tuesday at home.

All of which means the rest of the team has to suck it up and perform, which they did last night. Oddly, in the 16-hit attack, the only one of the starting eight who didn't get a hit was ... Derrek Lee, the guy on whom a lot of pressure rests while Ramirez and Soriano are out. Jacque Jones stepped up and had his second four-hit day of the year, drove in four runs, and since the All-Star break is hitting .333/.396/.432 with 17 RBI, although still no HR. Matt Murton homered (so maybe all the Murton-haters here can let up, at least for a day); Jason Kendall had three hits, including a triple, and is now hitting .286/.385/.393 in 17 games as a Cub. I'd still like to see that .385 OBA in the #2 slot.  

I was a little concerned to see Ted Lilly (who drew the only Cubs walk in the game -- the first walk he has drawn as a hitter in his major league career), sent out to throw the sixth inning after being well over 100 pitches after five. That means he threw 127 pitches at altitude, something that is likely to take quite a bit out of him. Fortunately, with the off day on Monday, the entire rotation can be given an extra day, and Lilly won't have to throw again until Wednesday vs. the Reds. Kerry Wood (a scoreless inning despite two walks), Carlos Marmol, and Bob Howry all threw well last night, finishing up the game without incident. This was against a Rockies lineup missing Brad Hawpe and Todd Helton, but so what? A win is a win, and now my advice to Jason Marquis for tonight's game: keep the ball down! (FWIW, Marquis has a 3.60 lifetime ERA in Coors Field, in three games, 15 total innings, and only 1 HR allowed.)

Finally, to all of you who are posting breathless diaries on every waiver claim the Cubs have reportedly made (Shannon Stewart! Scott Podsednik!) I will say only this: sports talk radio is doing a real disservice by reporting these supposed claims. As has been pointed out in the diaries, waiver claims like this don't necessarily mean the team gets the player, or in some cases, even wants the player. Many players are claimed by multiple teams. Some claims are made to block other teams from getting a certain player. It doesn't mean that Scott Podsednik (who I wouldn't want) or Shannon Stewart (who I might want, and yes, I mean the ballplayer, not the model/actress we discussed here the other day) are going to be wearing a Cubs uniform any time soon.

Onward; last night was a nice way to break out of the losing streak. The Cubs are only half a game behind the Brewers, and moved to within two games of the wild-card lead.

AYRating for last night's game:

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Let's hope
the many Jacque Jones hater take the day off too.  He's been excellent over the last month or so.

by cubsbak on Aug 10, 2007 9:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed...
I am not sure what he has been doing but his swing is totally different this past month than what it was at the beginning of the season.  His strong point is up the middle and left field, he is starting to use that more and more.  When he trys to pull it to right, that is when he gets those weak grounders to 1st and 2nd.

by HIGGY on Aug 10, 2007 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you have to give a great deal of credit
to Gerald Perry.  I think he's helped out JJ as well as a lot of other guys.  I've always liked his intensity in the dugout (and fighting with Padres on the field) but in some of these hitting adjustments, it kinda looks like the man knows what he's doing.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Aug 10, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey now, we don't take days off!
This is a full-time commitment and we're always on call.  The Murton haters can have their day off now and then, but it takes real dedication to hate on Jones.  I mean, it comes from within.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Aug 10, 2007 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...
Jones has been pretty good since the ASB and his supposed trade to the fish. Just baffled on his lack of 'some' power after hitting 27 last year.

My son was the one that pointed out that Lee was the only one not to get on base last night, but those things happen in this crazy game. I was just glad the rest of the team picked it up and got them out of their funk.

Yes Lilly did throw a lot of pitches last night. I was thinking Lou would take him out after 5 considering the big lead.

You are freaking out man!

by crw89 on Aug 10, 2007 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder
I wonder if the trade thing was a swift kick in the butt that Jones needed.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 10, 2007 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some need butt kicking, some need back patting
JJ seems to be the sensitive type that needs positive affirmation. He just looked like he had lost all confidence in his abilities early in the year. Remember when he got a big key hit right after the ASB how excited he looked, clapping his hands. He just looks like he's getting some self confidence back and he has a much more confident demeanor at the plate recently. I really think he could be a big surprise down the stretch. I'm not sure where the HRs are but his power was always to center/left so this could return as he really heats up and keeps going the other way. Personally I don't care if he doesn't hit HRs if he keeps having 2-3 hit games.

by billybuck on Aug 10, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

What - no song title for the thread?
After yesterday's most excellent "Stop Making Sense", I was hoping the trend would continue.  Something like, oh I don't know...

... "Can't Explain"  by the Who?
 

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2007 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Good choice!
But, I can't do that every day.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kendall is hitting .286 as a Cub
should we resign him for another year??
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 10, 2007 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

A little early to decide that!
Wait and see what happens the next few weeks.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed
But I think coming to Spring Training next year with Kendall, Soto, Hill, and Blanco would be acceptable.  Kendall might get an incentive-laden 2-year deal.  
The call of the Cub fan, c. 1893: "one long, ravaged, derisive yell...a cyclonic whoop!"

by cubzfan on Aug 10, 2007 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing ...
The dude prefers the National League.  Some players are just that way.  I'm glad he's found his bat--and I noticed yesterday he's pretty lithe for a catcher and hauled his butt about those bases pretty well for an old guy.

Both he and Jacque Jones had fine nights.  Good to see it!

--t.

"One of the worst writers on this board: !Neifi! didn't do it, honest."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Aug 10, 2007 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

So glad to see him come around.
Did anyone else hear the Three Stooge's-Curly Howard-WOO WOO WOO sound when he was stretching that one hit into a triple? Maybe I just heard it in my head
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Aug 10, 2007 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

kendall
was just declared one of mlb's "horrible hitters"
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7104348?MSNHPHMA
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs" - Alvin Dark

by holycow07 on Aug 10, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess that means
they need to trade him and bring back Bowen.  

He hitting for the Cubs, that's all I care.  

by rlpete on Aug 10, 2007 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at the author
DaYn is a notorious Cubs hater and Cards asslicker. This is the same guy who advocated the cubs sign Lilly, and after they did, called it a terrible move. Typical Cards fan.

by SouthsideCub on Aug 10, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crappy article
Why would they pay someone to write an article that could easily be duplicated by going to the stats page and hitting sort by?  I mean, no reasons for poor hitting are given, no idea for improving the hitting, not even predictions of who will hit better/as bad the rest of the year.  It is literally, look I sorted the stats and these guys suck!  

Just about anyone who can use a computer and knows a baseball from a grapefruit could have produced this piece of crap.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 10, 2007 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paging Pedro
I felt bad for Derrek Lee last night - he does not seem to have his happy face.  I felt so bad I almost wanted to start a telethon for him, but for now all I can do is wish him well and hope he finds his happy spot.  He had a couple of pitches last night that he would ordinarily crush, but ended up fouling off.

To get rid of the bad ju-ju, perhaps the BCB nation can chip in and sponsor a visit by Pedro Cerrano for D Lee.  Hey, the team had its first meeting of the year, so why not the first exorcism of the bad ju-ju stuck on Lee's bats?

[Is Felix Pie the Cub's Willie Mays Hayes?]

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Aug 10, 2007 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

We need to sacrifice a whole chicken
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by SackMan on Aug 10, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Remember when...
... Julio Zuleta started rubbing Cub bats with fruit? That happened in 2001.

Maybe we need him back.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

That Sounds Better
than urinating on your hands.  Let's hope it doesn't get to that point.
Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Aug 10, 2007 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Up your butt, Jobu!
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Aug 10, 2007 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is very bad
to steal JoBu's wine.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

SHOOT!!!
I MEAN RUM!!

It is very bad to steal JoBu's rum.

wow I screwed up.

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't leave that rum sittin around
out here, with this group.
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by SackMan on Aug 10, 2007 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you saying...
...that Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball!?

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 10, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Super Jacque and the red head
have been playing better lately. Hopefully the can pick up some of the slack with two of our big bats (soriano & ramirez) out and another one (Lee) struggling.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like
Sounds like a good rock band name.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 10, 2007 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Zuleta!
What a rally cry that could've been. I forgot about him, Al. Where is he now?

I love characters like that, it's part of what makes life - and especially baseball - so interesting. I tell my wife about ol' Turk Wendell's quirks all the time. He was great to have around, even if he couldn't get anyone out consistently.

"Mine, mine, says the squirrel to the transformer, unclear on the capacities of electricity." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 10, 2007 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

He plays for the Chiba Lotta Marines in Japan.
He's been the league leader in home runs over there the past few years, if I recall. I think the Yankees considered signing him in the offseason.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 10, 2007 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fighting...
that's how I rediscovered Julio Zuleta last week on youtube.  Zuleta wins.

And as baseball fights go, this one is the funniest I've ever seen.  It's a little pixilated, but you get the idea.  With Steve Stone-like commentary.

"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Aug 10, 2007 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

ROTFLMAO
Zuleta took that guy's head. Yikes...and that pitcher that ran. Total weenie. If you're going to have the sack to nail a guy, you need to stand there and fight.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ultimately Bourne
is finished, unless they choose to go without Matt Damon, who's made it very clear that he's done with it.  From the way it ended I don't know what else you'd do with him:  
The Bourne Parent Trap - he searches for his parents and/or the secret twin separated shortly after birth
Raiders of the Lost Bourne - he searches for a secret Nazi decoder device to help him decipher a map of buried gold
Bourne Wars - CIA vs. MI5 vs. Mossad in a race to find the mastermind terrorist sponsor of bin Laden - Darth Ali

I've heard someone mention trying a spin-off for the Julia Stiles character and what she'll go through having to rebuild her life, but I don't know if it could be made sufficiently interesting for 2 hours.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Aug 10, 2007 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Harry Potter Meets Jason Bourne?
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Read the Robert Ludlum
Bourne books. A thousand times better than the movies. A solid action/adventure writer at the top of his game. The plot line is much more complex, as well.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are two more
Bourne books, but not written by Ludlum. The studio wants to do The Bourne Legacy where he is a Georgetown teacher and gets sucked back into his killing ways. Yes, Damon most definitely did say he was finished with Bourne. One web reviewer jokingly talked about a Jason Bourne/Ethan Hunt version called "The Bourne:Impossible" lol

Great flick, will go see it again.

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Aug 10, 2007 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the first three
Bourne books were the ones i was referring to...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, knew what you meant
I didn't realize the Bourne books were written so long ago! I think I will read them, haven't as of yet.

Before he made these movies, I would bet that no one would think of Matt Damon as a badass, but he is one in these flicks. Love all three.

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Aug 10, 2007 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the movies are good,
but the books are even better. I read them on deployment over the course of a week. Couldn't put them down. Ludlum's lost his fastball since then , but these are gems.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was quick to think...
...that 2 hours of Julia Stiles on the big screen would be plenty entertaining for me >8^9

...but then I remembered that she's a Mets fan.

Its like I just experienced a mini Crying Game.

>SHUDDER<

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 10, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming Jimenez is low in the Rox'
rotation, meaning the Brewers saw the top of it.

That said, it was nice to see The Beloved hitting ALL of the pitchers they threw at them last night, not just teeing off on one Contreras-esque struggling starter

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Aug 10, 2007 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

actually,
i think that's the 2-spot in the rotation, but ubaldo is pitching for the injured rodrigo lopez.

by anormal on Aug 10, 2007 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Murton
He is so great.
I have always been behind him.
100%.
Ha!
I will gladly eat crow today if Mr. Murton keeps his tear on.
"You're fired." - Dallas Green to Billy Connors while Billy was staying in the hospital.

by jdoolsiu on Aug 10, 2007 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I too would be glad to eat crow
As it would mean that the Cubs got to the postseason. We need more than just ARam back and DLee to heat up. We need two or three other players to step up and play key roles. So far it's been Theriot. Hopefully Murton and Jones keep this up. I would like to be proved wrong by these guys and see the Cubbies in the race coming down the stretch.

by hawkeyenation on Aug 10, 2007 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Murton was 1-5 with a homer
in a blow out in Coors.

That is not a tear, rather a typical Thursday.

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He also
played some great defense too.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 10, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

By "great defense" do you mean
he hasn't dropped a routine fly ball or that he has made diving catches and saved runs from scoring?

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was talking about
the diving catch last night and throwing from his knees to keep a run from scoring. He's not played much since he got called back up so there isn't a lot to judge him on since he's been back. So basically I was talking about last nights game.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 10, 2007 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im glad to hear that
I was really asking.

I haven't seen any games this week.

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree on "great" defense
but I would say he's not a liability in the OF.  I think that he'll play solid defense.
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 10, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

in August
.381/.409/.714 in 21 ABs

tear

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many ABs

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No jerk
I was pointing out it was only 21 ab.

way too few ABs to make any solid predictions about Murton.

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the kind of junk I hate
If you want to make a comment about a small sample size then say "I don't think 21 ABs is enough to base a judgement on"

When you make some smarmy question like you did Mac then you are the one that looks like a grade A jerk.

Then you try to throw it back on someone else.  

Don't start this crap then call foul.

by El Borto on Aug 10, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Jennings on the hill tonight for HOU
Ugh.... This guy SUCKS!
I saw him get absolutely SHELLED in Atlanta last week.
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by SackMan on Aug 10, 2007 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Great game
last night and a fun time chatting. Matt had another homerun and a great throw from his knees. I'm not worried about Derrek. He will bounce back. I'm sure it bothers him more than it does us.
Hope they can continue their winning ways tonight. My only fear is Marquis. I admit I don't have alot of faith in him. :(
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 10, 2007 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Good to hear
Zuleta's doing well. I remember liking him, though he wasn't around long and didn't do much.

I think we should plan on going with Soto and Kendall next year. Maybe we can keep Blanco around to start the year and work on getting Soto up from AAA and playing more, but ultimately I'd like to see Soto given a solid opportunity. He's too good a hitter down there not to see what he's got. Hill has to go, if not now, definitely once the season's over. There's no reason to keep him around for next year, is there?

"Mine, mine, says the squirrel to the transformer, unclear on the capacities of electricity." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 10, 2007 10:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Soto should be on the opening day roster
And with the team all year long. I don't see any reason why we need to keep him in AAA.
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by SackMan on Aug 10, 2007 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

SackMan...
Seeing that the Cubs are playing in a Stadium this weekend that gives up alot of runs...hows the weekend look for your 4 game series?

by HIGGY on Aug 10, 2007 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Outlook looks sweet!
Twin Bill on Sunday... and then early BP on Monday morning.

Was shelved all week, in to see the trainer. All exams turned out fine. Me and the girlfriend are very happy.

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by SackMan on Aug 10, 2007 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good deal...
Lets hope you get one of those nice dinners again!

by HIGGY on Aug 10, 2007 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, really,
but then what do we do with Blanco? Isn't he under contract for another year? Trade him? There's always a chance he won't be healthy, too. I'd love to see Soto on the opening day roster.
"Mine, mine, says the squirrel to the transformer, unclear on the capacities of electricity." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 10, 2007 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

It's time to let go
If we don't sign Kendall to an extension then you keep him around. If you do sign Kendall I think you just have to let Blanco go. I know Hendry doesn't like to do this, but it's the right thing. You can't keep Soto in the minors forever. And as nice as Kendall has done hitting, getting some home run pop from the catchers spot would be a really nice thing.

by hawkeyenation on Aug 10, 2007 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Next year's catcher
You guys are talking about having two offensive minded catchers.  I think you have to have at least one catcher who can come into games and gun down runners.  A guy who can focus on catching and not on offense.  Who can be the personal caddy as needed.  I think that is Blanco, if he ever gets healthy again.  I think the choice is Kendall OR Soto as the other catcher.  That decision might come down to how Soto does after September call ups.  Then there is the issue of having at least experienced hand behind the plate.  So it might be Kendall and Hill OR Soto and Blanco depending on Blanco's health and Soto's batting at the end of the year.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 10, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

why?
are you assuming Soto is an offensive minded catcher?

he's actually regarded as a better defender than hitter by most scouting sites like BA

most suggest he's not THIS good as a hitter, but he's above average defensively

just cause a guy CAN hit, doesnt mean he cant catch

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto
I don't hear calls for Soto to be moved to the majors for his D.  People are calling for him for his O.  Whether he pans out O-wise or D-wise we won't know until he comes up.  What are his minor league defensive statistics?  I am leary of believing evaluations because "some guy said" something, even unnamed scouts.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 10, 2007 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

In his two starts up here
Soto performed very well defensively, FWIW.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, good arm
As I recall in one game he made two great throws to second on attempted steals, and the ump ruled the runner safe both times on what I thought were very questionable calls.  Nevertheless, Soto's throws were quick and right on target.  Small sample size, I realize, but...

by John Q Freejazz on Aug 10, 2007 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

So to be clear...
You relied on what some people said on here to decide that Soto is an offensive catcher, but you are leary of believing evaluations because they are based on what "some guy said"?

by lji001 on Aug 10, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope
I am relying on AAA statistics to decide that Soto may deserve to be called up due to his offense.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 10, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Before I answer that...
...can Blanco stand up right now? We have word on that?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 10, 2007 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

As long as he's not...
standing on his left shoulder, I think he can stand.  As for baseball-related activities, I believe he has yet to resume action in the minors again.

by SouthernCub on Aug 10, 2007 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meanwhile, In St. Louis......
....they got 7 innings of four-hit shut out ball with no walks last night from Joel Pinieiro (sp?). I'd almost be more concerned about the Cards again than I would the Brewers going down the stretch. And yeah, their rotation on paper looks atrocious, but they've pulled this close again anyways.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Aug 10, 2007 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

The Cards had the good fortune
to play the weak-hitting Padres. If you think the Cubs have had some problems, I assure you -- the Padres are having worse problems.

And, to complicate matters, 2 of the players they picked up to 'help' are now injured -- Milton Bradley is probably going on the DL, And, Scott Hairston (8 for 20 with 3 HR's since coming to the club) WILL go on the DL today. (Hey, it's another oblique strain!)

The Padres may actually have the worst offense in the NL. They may wind up dropping out of the race, unless Greg Maddux and Chris Young can pitch every other day.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 10, 2007 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is Barrett doing?
From what I see his stats are not too horrible...I remember something like .250.  But there have been a few articles around (ESPN, SI, etc.) alluding to some kind of "Barrett Curse" and I was wondering if the average SD fan regrets their team getting Barrett...

By "Barrett curse" I don't mean something magical, but more having to do with his defense, pitch selection, clubhouse skills, etc., etc.

by zevkalman on Aug 10, 2007 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barrett in SD
He is hitting at the Koyie Hill level, better average, fewer homers, worse defense.  .228/.235/.287/.522 0 HRs in 100+ ABs.  .167 CS%, 4.49 CERA, 3 passed balls, 1 E.  The Pads are 7-17 in games he started (using games he had more than 1 AB).  Since getting him they are 13-7 in the other games.  And he isn't being shunned by just 1 pitcher.  Those non-Barrett games are 6 by Wells, 4 by Peavy, 3 by Maddux, 3 by Young, 2 by Germano, 1 by Hensley, and 1 by Stauffer.  They are playing him less and less, from 3/4 of the time to 1/2 the time now.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 10, 2007 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's really running the Padres right now?
Alderson/DePodesta or Towers? Some of these moves don't seem very Towers-like. Picking up flotsam and jetsam is what DePodesta did to drive the Dodgers into the ground.

As for Maddux, he pitched decently the other night, but he's 7-9 with a 4.15 ERA. At the end of the day, he's a mediocre pitcher anymore.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Aug 10, 2007 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Padres are doing great
next to the Tigers.

1-12 in the last 13 with a team ERA over 7.

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can the Cubs play at Coors
every time they hit a slump? What a game last night. Way to break out fo slump and as hard as I've been on The Big Murt and Jones, they really came through last night, offensively and defensively. Pie looked good as well and it was nice to see him shorten up his swing a bit. He still looks a bit raw at the plate, but with that speed, he is a game-breaking player.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

They did get 12 hits in Houston on Wednesday
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by SackMan on Aug 10, 2007 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.
but not a single one when they needed it. Last night, they played like they did in June: timely hits, solid defense, and good pitching.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fontenot.....
...is the one who set the tone last night with his sliding catch !!!  That kid wanted to win last night and I get the feeling he set the spark.  That play set everyone right, including us !!!!

by coral on Aug 10, 2007 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm worried about Aramis
 This article in the Trib this morning.

quote:

fluid resides in the wrist below Ramirez's pinkie finger, and was caused by the violence of his swing, according to the Cubs trainers.

First off lets hope he really did hurt his wrist with his bad swing and not something else, wink wink....  but all jokes aside.... Is he going to work on improving his swing? What's going to happen next year, or the year after? How can he fulfill his new contract w/a bad wrist when his profession is to be a home run slugging baseball player?

What do you guys think?

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Aug 10, 2007 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

For now, it seems the cortisone ...
Is keeping the wrist under control ... but then, of course, those kind of shots need to be kept at a minimum because they eventually undermine the structure and nerves of the given area ...

Tordol is pretty effective as well and can be injected any where ... and have systemic success.

But yeah, if Lee's wrist is holding him back from power, I'd hate to see the same thing happen to A-Ram.  As Brenly says, "baseball is a game of adjustments," so Ramirez might have to modify  his swing to protect the wrist.

Just a few random thoughts from the Queen of Steroid Shots ... ugh.

--t.

"One of the worst writers on this board: !Neifi! didn't do it, honest."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Aug 10, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bagwell
Wasn't Bagwell taking cortisone shots? For some reason I remember that his shoulder actually got to that point because of the shots.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you're right.
I'd totally forgotten about Bagwell ... but eventually the steroid becomes the problem--even when administered legally.  I received one in the bottom of my heel (I don't recommend that to anyone--it hurts like no tomorrow.  Many doctors will use general anethesia to give one) in May and it weakened and ruptured a tendon within three days.

This is dangerous stuff; not to be taken--or given--lightly.

--t.

"One of the worst writers on this board: !Neifi! didn't do it, honest."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Aug 10, 2007 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was not a whole lot different
From the first game at Minute Maid, only this time we were hitting them into gaps. That and Felix Pie was playing.

 The thing is moreoften than not we're going to get a good pitching performance. So losing streaks won't  or shouldn't be that big. Marquis scares the hell out of me tonight but I like the two lefties. If we can take 3  out of four and end the trip 3-4 thatwill be disappointing, butnot the end of the world.

"I can't be held responsible for what I personally tell my goons to do...."- C. Montgomery Burns

by yahoodi on Aug 10, 2007 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

10,000th win
Did anyone notice this occurred* on July 24 against the Cards?  We all heard about the Phillies 10g loss, but what about the Cubs?  Did I miss the parade?

*See Wiki

by west side grounds on Aug 10, 2007 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Parade?!?
You want a parade for winning all those games but no WS? Please. I'd rather be the Marlins and have 2 rings but a fraction of the wins.
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Aug 10, 2007 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs have won
two world series.  Back-to-back champs '07-'08 baby!!!!

by cubsbak on Aug 10, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

2 rings
We have 2 two rings.  Is 10,000 wins more than any other profession franchise in the recorded history of earth?

by west side grounds on Aug 10, 2007 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Point of clarification:
Two rings that anybody alive was around for.
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Aug 10, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

The oldest living person
is 114 years old.  The Cubs two championships still count!

by cubsbak on Aug 10, 2007 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK fine. I stand corrected.
But I think you're missing the point...
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Aug 10, 2007 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Deliberately
missing the point.  GO CUBS!!

by cubsbak on Aug 10, 2007 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

And, didn't happen
at Wrigley Field, (not built yet) but took place at the memorable "West Side Grounds."

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 10, 2007 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

No
The NY/SF Giants have 10162 wins.

by cubsbak on Aug 10, 2007 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought this was gonna...
happen next year...or in the playoffs?

by HIGGY on Aug 10, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

According to baseball reference.com
the Cubs have won 9959 games.  I'm not sure if this is up to date through this season...

by cubsbak on Aug 10, 2007 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is.
The Cubs had exactly 9900 wins at the end of the 2006 season.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

The most
The most wins by any one city franchise in world history.

Of course that and $6.10 gets you from my house to my office on Metra but it is a stat.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 10, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's just ironic
that "Lovable Losers" have the most wins.

by west side grounds on Aug 10, 2007 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Post Season
or regular season?  Is that the difference?

by west side grounds on Aug 10, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

The difference is 2007...
we had 9900 after 2006, and we have 59 wins this year.

by SouthernCub on Aug 10, 2007 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs
have 77 wins in the old N.A. and 29 wins post season.  Are those counted?

by west side grounds on Aug 10, 2007 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

From baseball-reference.com

The National Association is not officially recognized as a Major League by Major League Baseball, so these teams and franchises are considered separate from the ones above, though six franchises continued playing in the National League upon the dissolution of the National Association: the Boston Red Stockings, Philadelphia Athletics, Chicago White Stockings, Hartford Dark Blues, New York Mutuals, and the St. Louis Brown Stockings. The Chicago and Boston franchises are the only ones who lasted more than two years. They currently play as the Chicago Cubs and the Atlanta Braves.

by cubsbak on Aug 10, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

baseball reference.com
Does not count 77 wins during 1871-1875 when the Chicago White Stockings played in the National Association.  Should these count?

by west side grounds on Aug 10, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, they shouldn't.
The NA isn't really considered a "major league" by the present-day definition. There are debates about this, but I'd say "Major League Baseball" as presently constituted, dates from 1876.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our Kickball team...
Notched it's 20th win last night and completed it's first undefeated season.

by HIGGY on Aug 10, 2007 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's deserving of a parade down State St
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by SackMan on Aug 10, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

That would be nice...
In 3 years we have had 1 championship (7-1 regular season), and and undefeated season (7-0 this year playoffs starting next week).

If we win this year i am gonna make a phone call.

by HIGGY on Aug 10, 2007 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

What grade school do you go to?
KICKBALL?!? Hey, if it's your thing, then great. But I give my 35-year-old brother-in-law MOUNTAINS of crap for being on a friggin' KICKBALL team. He talks about it so seriously. It's hysterical.

It's like people that are soooo into beanbags - it's friggin' BEANBAGS!!! It's was on the damn Bozo show!

I'm AWESOME at Red Light - Green Light

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Aug 10, 2007 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha
You would be shocked at how many people want to play on our team. The ages on our team range between 23-27, and all we do is play and drink a few beers and then go to Merkles afterwards!

by HIGGY on Aug 10, 2007 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

baseball-reference
Al:

I really like the JJones stats you highlighted on baseball-reference.com.

Boy, that site is sweet.

"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon

by ExNorthsider on Aug 10, 2007 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Isn't it, though?
I spend a tremendous amount of time on that site. Solves all kinds of mysteries.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

AL - Agree on both reviews
AND - while fliping around to relieve tension last night - I saw a Doc on Lucielle Ball.

What was interesting among many things is according to this piece, she was responsible for utilizing the three-camera shoot for her live shows ("ready camera one"), and as Production Head of her studio, was responsible for, among other things, The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Untouchables, Mission Impossible, Mannix, and Star Trek being made.

She was the "Oprah" of her day.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 10, 2007 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Did she?
Did she solve the world's problems?  Did she give advice to the world's downtrodden and save them?

Then she's not Oprah like and I think Oprah is overrated.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 10, 2007 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I said "of her day"
And - in fact she was THE ONLY woman Head of a Hollywood Studio in a day when this was not possible.

I was only drawing a loose analogy which you did not get.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 10, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw on the cover of the latest Oprah
magazine that she walks on water and turns water into wine. She's amazing. She doesn't get enough media attention. I wish I heard more about her.
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Aug 10, 2007 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Show me the $$
$250 million a year ... that's a quarter of a BILLION a year.  If you had asked anyone 15-20 years ago that a black woman primarily known for hosting a TV show would be generating that kind of money in 2006, you would have thought they were trippin' on mushrooms (or whatever people ingested back then).

The US - land of opportunity.  She could afford to buy the Cubs.  Just think how nice the unis would look after a redesign by Harpo Corp.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Aug 10, 2007 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

She offers
some of the same qualities the opposing pitchers that the Cubs have faced recently. Maybe we sign her to pitch for the Cubs.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Aug 10, 2007 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well....
...this is something I know more than a little about. Desi Arnaz was responsible for all the things you mentioned. Even after I Love Lucy ended, Desi was the brains behind it all. Only after they divorced and Ball bought out Arnaz' interest was she the sole chief.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Aug 10, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes - Arnaz was the brains, first...
"Only after they divorced and Ball bought out Arnaz' interest was she the sole chief."

This was a major point of the film. Yes, very true.

It took Lucy four or five years post-diveorce of needing to regroup and then she was able to convince the network to give her a shot at a new show, sans Desi.

It was through this re-invention period that she was able to grow a new empire based on the success of this pilot.

So her talent, experience, and perseverence served her well and she was able to make some nice calls on the funding of the above-mentioned tv shows which ran for years. And sure, she had a few flops as well...And yes, Desi was the business side of their original partnership - but Lucy was the act.

 

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 10, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute.....
Lucy was always the brains behind that outfit.  That was a time when women could not be in charge and had to have a man in there to make it look like it was his idea.  Lucy was brilliant.

by coral on Aug 10, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to assume you're kidding...
...because it is well documented that if not for Desi's business acumen, they wouldn't have had nearly the success they did.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Aug 10, 2007 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bourne
was great entertainment.  Forulaic but done very well.  I certainly agree with your recommendation.

With regards to Lee, I am beginning to grow concerned.  His BA has dropped precipitously yet I have heard no one use the 's' (slump) word.  Do you think he may just need a rest now and then such as ARam was getting?

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Aug 10, 2007 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

At the risk of sounding like a whiner
I think D-Lee's getting a really cruddy strike zone called right now. He's been forced to expand outside, because pitchers are staying away from the inside pitch, which is where is power is, however, he's getting pitches called for strikes low and away that are not on the plate. It's happened pretty consistently over the past 2-3 weeks. He's also getting pitches 1-2 inches below the kness, but down the middle called for strikes. If the umps aren't going to make the pichers throw strikes for strikes, what can Derrek do. Stone touched on this yesterday and he remarked that while Derrek has taken a lot of called strikes lately, most of them are off the plate or low. As a result, lee's often forced to swing at a pitcher's pitch. Take a look at his and Holliday's at-bats from last night. They were pitched in much the same way, but Lee took low pitches for for strikes that were balls for Holliday.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting
With regards to Lee's strike zone, just how accurate do you think Gameday's pitch charts are.  I have often wondered.  Where else would one look for accurate charts of at bats?
And so it goes.

by Luigi on Aug 10, 2007 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gameday's the only one I know of
that charts pitch location, but I've just noticed watching the games that Lee gets pitches called for strikes that many others don't. I don't think there's some sort of vendetta against him or anything, I just think he's not getting the respect that other hitters of his stature get.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

You make a great point!
I have always felt that a guy like Poo-holes has always gotten the "benefit of the doubt" when he takes a border-line pitch, while DLee does not.  

Maybe it is the way each stands in the batter's box.  Maybe it is the self-confidence each projects to the home plate ump.  Maybe it is the way these guys work the ump while they are playing first base (while that ump is next to them)...who knows.

But clearly, the umps are human and DLee does not seem to get the benefit of the doubt as well as some of the other top hitters in the game.  I believe it starts with the politics these other guys play in the field.  DLee has to learn to play the game, is my guess.  He is a quiet guy.  The umps have EGOS a mile wide, which is painfully obvious.

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 10, 2007 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've noticed that too.
The umpires started calling that low and away pitch as a strike earlier in the season and it forces Lee to swing at shit pitches anywhere near that zone just to protect the plate and the at bat.  

D's current stretch of bad plate appearences are not necessarily all his fault.  

Fookin' umpires--even they're against the Cubs.
--t.

"One of the worst writers on this board: !Neifi! didn't do it, honest."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Aug 10, 2007 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...
I don't think umpires hate the Cubs, but some hitters get respect while others don't. Konerko's been going through the same thing with the low and away pitch (though not a Sox fan, I watch a lot of their games. I love baseball). Umpires are giving pitchers an out and it's not fair. It's almost as if someone wants HR production to go down so it looks like the Substance Abuse policy is working. Hmmmmmm.....
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a very good point.
Lee, IIRC, credited his success in 2005 to being able to turn on the inside pitches that he had previously not been able to do so with (sorry for the tortured syntax!).

In any case, if he's now getting outside pitches called strikes, he's probably had to expand his zone too much and hasn't been able to make adjustments -- yet, anyway.

His K rate doesn't seem to be inordinately high -- 84 in 104 games -- but obviously, something's amiss. Hope he figures it out.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.
His strike zone is gi-normous ...
"One of the worst writers on this board: !Neifi! didn't do it, honest."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Aug 10, 2007 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

jones hitting .352
since July 18th.
And his OBP is .417.

I just did da math.

"You're fired." - Dallas Green to Billy Connors while Billy was staying in the hospital.

by jdoolsiu on Aug 10, 2007 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

saw
bourne last night it was very good. i liked the first two and i like this one also. going to see rush hour 3 tonight

by tbizzle83 on Aug 10, 2007 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

rush hour 3
could be terrible. the first was pretty funny, the second had some funny parts, but i think this one will blow. you can only hear chris tucker yell the same lines so many times
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Aug 10, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

the quick clip I saw today of RH3
on WGN this morning had a very funny Christ Tucker line about Barry Bonds having a big head because of steroids. Wish I could remember the exact line so it can be funny to you all too.
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Aug 10, 2007 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha Christ
that was a mistake, sorry.
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Aug 10, 2007 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

its not out yet
but superbad is going to be absoultly hilarious. lol Mclovin

by Kchance on Aug 10, 2007 12:29 PM CDT reply actions  

boop
n/t

by hawkeyenation on Aug 10, 2007 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was great to finally see the offense up
back.

But what was up with no Amram and Lee going 0-5?

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2007 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

completly off topic
but i dont follow the yankees, and i was considering picking up melky caberea cause he is tearing it up. But does he start everyday? He has been i think, but giambi is back and they have damon?

by Kchance on Aug 10, 2007 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

for fantasy
im not saying the cubs will get him. im saying i wanted to pick up for my team

by Kchance on Aug 10, 2007 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

melky
melky will most definitely be in the lineup everyday. damon and giambi will be battling for dh at-bats.
"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Aug 10, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh...
This thread is cracking me up today. We've got a Lucille Ball conversation intervweaved with a self-contradictory thread about Soto and historical information about MLB. Oh yeah, and Oprah is overseeing it all.

Damn, I love this site, Al.

"Mine, mine, says the squirrel to the transformer, unclear on the capacities of electricity." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 10, 2007 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL
See how you can have fun on an otherwise boring Friday?

Speaking of Lucy, she got a mention in today's Sun-Times, because Mel Shavelson, a man who produced and directed some films and TV shows with her, died on Wednesday.

Here's my favorite part of that obit:

But making movies wasn't always the glamorous business many people imagine, Mr. Shavelson related in an essay he recently completed commemorating what would have been Ball's 96th birthday on Monday.

The two had a contentious relationship on the set of the 1968 movie, "Yours, Mine and Ours" about a couple raising 18 children, and Mr. Shavelson said that after the final scene was shot the actress asked how he liked directing her.

He said he replied, "Lucy, this is the first time I ever made a film with 19 children."

"To my surprise, she started to cry," Mr. Shavelson said. She wouldn't talk to him for months.

Tough business, Hollywood.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2007 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Under the radar?
I notice that not much is being discussed about Lou calling a rare meeting to talk to the players, just 2 hours before they snap out of their funk to absolutely cream a red hot Rockies team.  Coincidence, possibly.  If the Cubbies get hot again from here, Lou will be the genious coach who kick started us yet again.

I like Lou, can ya tell?

by californiachicagoan on Aug 10, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you watch the game on WGN last night?
Len and BB couldn't stop talking about two things: the meeting with Lou and the players and the line outside the batting cage where Gerald Perry was. They really ran with the meeting story, though. I realize, however, that not everyone who comments here can get WGN, so please don't take this as me being smarmy...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good movie
It was a good movie.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 11, 2007 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Bourne Ultimatum spoof
This was pretty funny.  Most of you would enjoy this video.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T23oNcCFriE

by AJ on Aug 13, 2007 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

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Cubs By The Numbers is a history of the ballclub by uniform number, but the biographies help trace the history of our beloved team in a new way. For everyone who's a Cubs fan, anyone who ever wore the uniform is like family. Cubs By The Numbers reintroduces readers to some of their long-lost ancestors, even ones they think they already know.

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