Cubs have till Monday to negotiate....for Podsednik
On ESPN radio, I heard the Cubs have claimed Scott Pods off of waivers. Unreal. Thats all I have to say. Pods is and always was overrated, his stats are bad this year, he's not stealing as much, his OPS is abismal. This seems like a move just to make a move, Theriot is doing a great job leading off, Murton would look real good in the two-hole if I was the manager. I see no point to this move, all it does is take away playing time from more deserving Cubs players.
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Keep in mind...
by SouthernCub on Aug 10, 2007 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point
by rlpete on Aug 10, 2007 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murton
Why doesn't anybody like Pods. How can you say he is overrated when he was a big reason the White Sox won in 05. He gets on base, he has speed, and above all that, he has EXPERIENCE. The Sox would have never won the World Series if they didn't trade Lee for him.
by cubfaninSTL on Aug 10, 2007 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He had one good year....
He doesn't get on base at a LEAGUE AVERAGE RATE. He doesn't steal bases at a good rate (71%, which over the long haul actually hurts your team). Experience only counts for so much if you're constantly making outs.
by jtlight on Aug 10, 2007 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before you
by cubfaninSTL on Aug 10, 2007 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
by cubfaninSTL on Aug 10, 2007 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Murton has grounded into one double play...
I mean, seriously, do some of you people think? Your opinion in this matter is largely based on you having no idea what the hell you're talking about.
2:1 odds on you responding to this by making some comment about how stats don't matter and continuing to hold your flawed conclusion in the face of actual fact. I swear, it's like a broken record around here sometimes.
by cwyers on Aug 10, 2007 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats do matter
by cubfaninSTL on Aug 10, 2007 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so...
stats do matter but things outside of stats such as:
- Lou's opinion
- Veteran status
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Stat head"
And if you are a stat head, you wouldn't have any interest in Pods. By almost every statistical metric he is a lousy player.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 10, 2007 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Liar
by frustratedfan on Aug 10, 2007 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah what the hell?
Blatent disregard for facts just to lay into Murton who is CLEARLY outplaying Floyd at this point.
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 10, 2007 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: Before you
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 10, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
pods does not really get on base well, he's avg. i guess. the last three years,
- .351
- .330
- .328
by kylejo on Aug 10, 2007 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pods gets on base?
by jamie on Aug 10, 2007 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid work computer.
by jamie on Aug 10, 2007 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2005 was
by rlpete on Aug 10, 2007 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's that quote again...
Don't overlook the pitcher the Sox got from the Brewers, Luis VizcaĆno. After a rough start Vizcaino did very well for the '05 Sox and certainly contributed to the Sox World Championship.
Interestingly, when the Sox traded Lee, Al stated this:
"(The Sox will) be hard-pressed to win 70 games next year." - Al Yellon, Dec 14 2004
2005 Sox:
99-63
161 days in first place
7-1 in playoffs
4-0 in World Series
by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2007 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That prediction was a typo....
by DudeVf11 on Aug 10, 2007 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A prediction for ...
'06 66 wins
'05 79 wins
by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2007 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little behind the times huh?
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 10, 2007 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: A prediction for ...
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 10, 2007 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Al point in the mirror with that prediction?
And while this years Cubbie team is in a great position (in the worst division in MLB) they are on pace to win a mere 84 games, not exactly a powerhouse team.
by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2007 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhhh
Poor widdle widdle angwy sox fan...
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 10, 2007 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Projecting...
"Angwy?" "Frustrated?" Sounds like you are projecting your feelings as a Cubbie fan.
by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2007 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
Projection I think not friend. I am most certainly experience some negative counter transference though. It's cool if you want to hang here and project, but please don't project your projection.
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 10, 2007 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NL central is worst division?
by cubboy89 on Aug 10, 2007 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious, if you can find for me...
You clearly know the answer to your question and I know it as well. What does that prove?
The Sox have a winning record against Detroit this season. Does that prove that the Sox are better than Detroit? No. What will that mean for the Sox come post-season? Nothing.
The NL Central was last season, in spite of what the Cardinals accomplished, and it's that way again. If you disagree, what division do you feel is the worst?
by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2007 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does it prove????
"If the ignornant were blessed, you'd be a saint".
by cubboy89 on Aug 11, 2007 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basher
The NL Central is worst division in baseball. That's a view held by many people who follow baseball. I've heard that stated by Cubbie fans too.
It's not bashing to state that widely held opinion. Don't get your feelings hurt. Embrace it. Because of it your team is in a very good position to win their division. In fact, the Cubbies should win the division.
by DrCrawdad on Aug 11, 2007 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does it prove????
"If the ignorant were blessed, you'd be a saint". ---Father Majeski to Archie Bunker
by cubboy89 on Aug 11, 2007 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still dont see
by kylejo on Aug 10, 2007 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
by cubfaninSTL on Aug 10, 2007 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um
by kylejo on Aug 10, 2007 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
Podsednik had a solid year, and was certainly a part of the team. But he didn't lead them to the World Series. The pitching defined that team. And it was the lack of pitching the next year that defined them not making it.
by SouthernCub on Aug 10, 2007 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murton doesn't have Pods'
by DudeVf11 on Aug 10, 2007 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be it that 10 teams in the NL and 7 in the AL
Pods might be overrated for 162 games but he might be the ticket for 20-25 games in a platoon system.
BTW; Murton continues as he has he might hold down a starting spot while Soriano is out anyway.
by Ivy Walls on Aug 10, 2007 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there you go
by cubfaninSTL on Aug 10, 2007 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont like this idea
by mike on Aug 10, 2007 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was my problem
let murton and pie play everyday and see what happens.
by kylejo on Aug 10, 2007 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
However
Podsednik brings nothing to the Cubs.
by rlpete on Aug 10, 2007 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree about pods
by kylejo on Aug 10, 2007 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously Podsednik came off...
by cwyers on Aug 10, 2007 9:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We also claimed Casey Blake
That being said, there's no way CLE is going to trade him at this point. I'm surprised they even played the waiver game with him.
by ClosingTime on Aug 10, 2007 9:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is a surprise.
by Al on Aug 10, 2007 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blake:
.299/.378/.526/.904
Got some pop. We'd probably get 8-10 dingers from him down the stretch, and about 15-20 RBIs.
If his cost isn't astronomical, I think he'd fit well. At least they'd have a little bit more pop for the time being.
Plays better at night - lots of night games left (especially if in the playoffs). Also seems to do much better outside of Cleveland.
Could be worth a look.
Bad stats: much better numbers with nobody on base, seems to slow down in the later months of the year.
Still, the power and OPS makes him worth a stab.
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Aug 10, 2007 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's one of the guys
Casey Blake is the Tribe's everyday 3B and they're one of the best team's in baseball
they have no replacement for him since Andy Marte has really struggled outside of the ATL organization
Blake isnt going anywhere
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know there
by sue369 on Aug 10, 2007 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: I know there
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 10, 2007 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have family that know
by sue369 on Aug 10, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell yeah
by kylejo on Aug 10, 2007 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at this point in the season
by Kchance on Aug 10, 2007 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
see Kendall, Jason
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kendall???
by big_lowitzki on Aug 10, 2007 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: Kendall???
Oh, and he's drawn a walk in 6 of his last 10 games, too.
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 10, 2007 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
And it is also WAY to early to call the trade for Kendall a success or that he came here and got better.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 10, 2007 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.286/.385/.393 as a Cub...
Since his slow start (in 41 AB), he has the following numbers: .366/.447/.512. That is most certainly tearing it up, in my opinion. Granted, it's a small sample, but it's definitely tearing it up.
by SouthernCub on Aug 10, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: .286/.385/.393 as a Cub...
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 10, 2007 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
trust me
but i'm giving the man credit where credit is due
the questions was this:
"I have a question, When is the last time the cubs made a move for a player on a "down" year and that player completely tore it up."
Kendall:
as an A: .226/.261/.281
as a Cub: .286/.385/.393
so while again, i am no Kendall fan (and have made that point clear a # of times on this site), he has proven me wrong and a 240 point swing in OPS probably meets the criteria of player in a down year "tearing it up"
of course "tearing it up" for Jason Kendall is a relative thing
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and... no
nor do i think he should hit in the 2 hole
and i have staked my allegiance to the good gentleman from Iowa, Mr. Soto
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
soto or bust
by kylejo on Aug 10, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randall Simon, sorta.
But he picked it up after the trade - I think he had 6 HR and 20 RBI for us in about 100 at-bats... while simultaneously being a "keep the team loose" jokester AND leading the team in badass staredowns.
by ClosingTime on Aug 10, 2007 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think i just threw up a little in my mouth
here's my question to all the Dusty bashers out there that think he had an infatuation with little speedy guys that cant get on base
are we sure it was Dusty?
cause if Hendry's going after Pods... and Baker's not here anymore....
Pods OBP over the last few years
- .379
- .313
- .351
- .330
- .336
- .822
- .677
- .700
- .683
- .725
they go from this: .274/.341/.378
to this: .262/.326/.358
oh Jim.... this is a bad bad choice
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
argh
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please no
by sue369 on Aug 10, 2007 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you'd like a cheaper alternative to Podsednik..
Seriously, though, I agree: probably a defensive Hendry claim.
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Aug 10, 2007 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
many people
Speed? yes when not injured this year. Otherwise, blech.
Take Blake...hey I like that rhyme.
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 10, 2007 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget Pods!
Lastly, appropos of nothing, I've always found a Pods smarmy and annoying. I could accept Jermaine Dye in a Cubs uniform, I guess, but not Podsednik.
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 10, 2007 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im just curious
by Kchance on Aug 10, 2007 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
do nothing
by kylejo on Aug 10, 2007 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because any time you "try something"
so we'd have to send someone down
thats why you evaluate if the current players on your roster are better than what you'd acquire
the quick answer with a guy like Pods is no he's not better than what we currently have on the roster
he's a sub .700 OPS guy who's injury prone and plays average defense in LF....
not exciting at all
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 10, 2007 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt he
by Kchance on Aug 10, 2007 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not very well
by gary varsho on Aug 10, 2007 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well for one, or two
Pods is just weak these days man, not to mention, K Williams would probably ask for Big Z in return!
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 10, 2007 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Podzilla...
The key question for Cubbie fans though is would Pods help the Cubbies?
The Cubbies could play Pods in LF and when Soriano comes back put Soriano in RF. That's an option, but it would make for a poor OF. That said though, IMHO Pods main weakness as a fielder is his arm, or lack thereof.
As a Sox fan, I have no problem with dealing Pods to the Cubbies, even if it turned out that Pods (or any other Sox player) helped the Cubbies to win so long as the move helped the Sox.
by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2007 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
re: Podzilla...
Regarding Scottie Pods, I wouldn't disagree with you there. I probably didn't follow the Sox playoff run as closely as you but -- yeah, I'll admit it -- I watched or at least kept track of most all of that postseason and Pods was definitely a huge asset for that team.
But that doesn't really change my opinion of him right now. He had a great year in '05, probably the best of his career. Since then, he's been either injured or far less productive. And I still don't think he'd do much if anything for the '07 Cubs.
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 10, 2007 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you'd be happy.
No thanks.
by Al on Aug 10, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pods is better than...
Pagan? Floyd? JJ? Murton? Pie? Pie kind of reminds me of Pods, in fact. But why take the older and more expensive version?
by Ryno8 on Aug 10, 2007 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pagan...
Pods cannot even dream about what Pie can do defensively.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 10, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking offensively
by Ryno8 on Aug 10, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's Pod's in CF??
by CubFaninCA on Aug 10, 2007 11:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The guy hasn't been able to WALK...
by cwyers on Aug 10, 2007 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't
by sue369 on Aug 10, 2007 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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