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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Tuesday 8/14, 7:05 CT

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I was going to do a separate headline post this morning and then put the game thread up this afternoon, but doesn't it seem like forever since the Cubs played a game?

That being the case, here's the game thread, which will have to last you all day and evening, and a few samples of this morning's headlines:

The Cubs have lost their swagger, Mike Downey says. His solution:

A report that Scott Podsednik might cross enemy lines from South to North Side was a tantalizing one, given that the last thing the Cubs would seem to need is another player with a history of injuries. Yet there is a gap to fill with Soriano sidelined, so Podsednik could be an experienced temp at a fair price.
Guess Downey didn't read the papers over the weekend. That deal was declared dead two days ago, and good riddance, too.

Meanwhile, Bruce Miles writes about Lou Piniella's learning curve and why it took two months for a talented team to get going:

As much as it took Piniella time to figure out what he had, the players had to adjust to a new manager. Gone was the laid-back, coddling style of Dusty Baker. In was the blunt and brutally honest approach of Piniella.

The clubhouse over the first two months of the season was a place filled with uncertainty, as players wondered whether they’d be playing or worrying they’d be on the boss’ bad side.

Once they figured that out -- and personnel changes were made -- two months of good ball followed. Ryan Dempster knows why:
Roles and lineups seemed to change daily in the first half. Dempster admits there might have been a method to Piniella’s madness.

"Keeps you motivated," he said.

Exactly.

Carol Slezak reminds us how many things have gone wrong this year:

Remember when Alfonso Soriano was a bust? And Carlos Zambrano was horrible? And Michael Barrett was behind the plate, and no one wanted to pitch to him? And Piniella seemed more confused by the day? A lot has changed since then.

Remember when Wood was on the disabled list? And Cesar Izturis was the shortstop? And Carlos Marmol was in Iowa? And Ryan Theriot was a backup? And Jacque Jones was on the trading block? Despite their recent slide, the Cubs are far better today than they were in April and May. They have played fabulously well in stretches. And if they were to get hot at the right time -- say, in October? -- talk about good fortune.

Onward to tonight's matchup...
 Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
 C. Zambrano
Cubs		 vs. Aaron Harang
 A. Harang
Reds
14-8 W-L 11-3
3.69 ERA 3.37
139 SO 146
75 BB 41
20 HR 13
vs. Cin -- vs. Cubs
... which is a rematch of a rematch. Unusual in modern baseball with five-man rotations and starters swinging back and forth between minors and majors, this will be the third matchup between Z and Harang this season. Harang won 5-1 on Opening Day in Cincinnati; eleven days later Z homered off Harang, but the Reds hit Z hard and beat him 6-5 when Z couldn't hold a 5-0 lead; also, on July 28 in Cincinnati, Harang left the game early with back problems, and the Cubs pounded five Reds relievers and won 8-1, in a game started by Sean Marshall.

Lifetime, Harang is 6-2, but with a 4.42 ERA, in 12 starts vs. the Cubs; Z is 9-7, 3.20 in 24 games (20 starts) vs. the Reds. Adam Dunn has hit Z hard (6 HR in 45 AB); Derrek Lee, who we'd like to see get going already, is 11-for-29 (.379/.438/.759, two doubles, 3 HR) against Harang. Matt Murton has also hit 2 HR off Harang in 13 career AB.

Finally, if you haven't yet voted in the new front-page poll, the "Where are you?" poll, please do. I'd like to know where BCB readers live!

Tonight's game is cable-only, also on Extra Innings; here is today's Mediacenter link.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for the Brewers/Cardinals game

And even though they profess to not liking Cubs fans very much, check out our SB Nation colleagues at Red Reporter.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Does seem way too long since the Cubs played...
But I really, really hope they are rested up and ready to go.  It's time for the team to take off and be more definative.  Let's go Cubs !!!!

by coral on Aug 14, 2007 8:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bruce Miles wrote a great piece this morning
He really summed up the year so far and brought to light the culture change (I believe for the positive) that the Cubs and their system has made this year.

I was never a Dusty basher, but like what's been said before, I think he managed egos well but wasn't as equipped at rebuilding or managing past the weaknesses.

The Cubs have been broken for a while and it has been refreshing to see how this team has been rebuilt not just with trades and acquisitions, but with coaching and management.

BTW, Go CUB! Beat the Reds and make some hay during this homestand.

'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Aug 14, 2007 8:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, first comment..
I like that article by Carol, I think she hit the nail right on the head there. It seems likes it has been a week since the last game. Does anyone else go through baseball withdrawl or is it just me? Ugh, over 10 hours 'til first pitch. I hope this day goes by quick!
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Aug 14, 2007 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes!
It freaking kills me.  I spent hours last night going to the computer and checking on my 3 active fantasy players every few minutes.  

They should televise the Iowa Cubs games on days when the big leaguers are off.  I would love that.

Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cub Withdrawal
I agree about the cub withdrawal.  Amazing when a team is in the playoff hunt how you actually want to watch them play.

by shawonfan on Aug 14, 2007 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately
When the Cubs are good, we don't get to watch them, because all the games end up on cable.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-13-07

by gary varsho on Aug 14, 2007 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmmm........
Where is the "Where are you ?" poll ?

by coral on Aug 14, 2007 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On the right sidebar.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 14, 2007 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd vote, but...
there's no entry for the Caribbean (Puerto Rico, Atlantic standard time zone). What option should I vote for, Al?

BTW, I saw the photos in your old site about your trip to San Juan, PR, to watch the Cubs play in our small ballpark. I'm glad you enjoyed it as much or more than I did. I remember at the time the Cubs were a long shot to win the division. Three weeks later it happened and the turnaround began more or less about the time the Cubs played the Expos in San Juan. Maybe the same will happen again, starting tonight against the Reds. I just hope that the storm forecasted to pass nearby this weekend [ http://www.accuweather.com/news-top-headline.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0"target=_blank" ]doesn't leave me without cable for long as in 1989, when I couldn't see the Cubs win the division. [ http://www.geocities.com/hurricanene/hurricanehugo.htm"target=_blank" ]

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 14, 2007 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al: shouldn't you assume
that in true Chicago tradition that the Chicagoans will "vote early and vote often."  Do you need to bias down the Chicago area vote?  Maybe that's just my '60s influence coming through.  ;-)

Though I live in LA now, I love having BCB to keep me connected to the Cubs!  Keep up the great work!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 14, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If what you say is true, then I'm certain Al
has thought this through and gerrymandered the voting lines to make certain as many votes fall in the category Al, as board president, already deemed the winner.  In addition, he may have encouraged some of his people to get out and knock on doors and encourage votes into his "selected" category.  And by "encourage," I mean having your garbage collection stopped or something just as subtle.  As Sean Connery says, "That's the Chicago Way."

by N Oakley on Aug 14, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

California
Only 18 of 395 in the Pacific Time Zone?  Really?  I guess I got West Coast bias, but I would have guessed at least twice as many as that.  Maybe it is volume of posts I am noticing instead of number of posters :)

By the way, I would be really interested to know which specific countries the various international posters are from.  And how they became Cubs fans.  Anyone wanna volunteer?

by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2007 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I currently live in the states, and am only 21
but growing up 91-95(when i became a Cubs Fan) I lived in South Korea and the only english channel at the time was afkn, (run by the military base) and the only games I really got to see were wednesday night or Thursday morning baseball, it got me interested so i started to collect Baseball cards got a Mark Grace and Ryne Sandberg in one pack, before i knew it started liking the Cubs and it took me three years when I watched my first televised broadcast in the states to find out about the history but for some reason wasnt phased.  There's my life story sorry for typing so much.

by INWes44 on Aug 14, 2007 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully the team...
got some rest after playing what, 20 days in a row? I see Z getting win #15 and the Cubs starting a new hot streak...gotta be optimistic.
You are freaking out man!

by crw89 on Aug 14, 2007 8:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope the day
of rest helps the team come back energized tonight. Z needs to have a winning frame of mind tonight.

GO CUBS!!!

I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 9:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.........
for pointing out the obvious. ;)
RIP kerrysotherwife!!!!

by timeforachange on Aug 14, 2007 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is your problem?
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did..........
you notice the ;)?
RIP kerrysotherwife!!!!

by timeforachange on Aug 14, 2007 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Cubs!!!!!
;)
RIP kerrysotherwife!!!!

by timeforachange on Aug 14, 2007 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al,
in retrospect, do you believe that Uncle Lou should have replaced Dusty mid season last year?  My arguement last year was that it would take at least a half season to change attitude and weed out the crap.
RIP kerrysotherwife!!!!

by timeforachange on Aug 14, 2007 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No....
... because the team had to be rebuilt anyway, and I think Lou had considerable input into what players were acquired.

He wouldn't have been able to do anything with last year's conglomeration and all that would have accomplished is associating him with all the negatives surrounding last year's team.

Let's move on. Last year's done.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 14, 2007 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMHO.....
it was about attitude and expectations earlier this season.  I think if he was brought in last season, the change may have occured earlier.

Anyway, I hope to see you tonight.  

RIP kerrysotherwife!!!!

by timeforachange on Aug 14, 2007 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope to see you tonight too.
My point was, the personnel needed to change so dramatically (and it did) that any such attitude changes would have had to be RE-introduced at the beginning of this year.

Half a season of Lou last year would have been irrelevant to what's going on now. I think I see your point -- i.e. that they could have hit the ground running this year -- but since so many new faces would have been here anyway, it wouldn't have mattered.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 14, 2007 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"but since so many new faces ......"
I agree with you. Hiring Lou in the middle of last season wouldn't have eliminated the learning and adjusting process at the beginning of this season.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is
ARam playing today?
PC load letter, what the f*** does that mean?

by cubfaninSTL on Aug 14, 2007 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We don't know yet.
But all indications were that he was going to sit out the weekend so that he would be ready today.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 14, 2007 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pigs up? gallagher down?
Daily Southtown says sources are saying that Pignatiello is up and Gallagher is down.  It would mean there would need to be a 40 man roster move.
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by jonpyardi on Aug 14, 2007 9:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing...
... Henry Blanco to the 60-day DL.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 14, 2007 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

60 day dl
I've read somewhere that Bruce Miles thinks he is already on the 60 day DL, but of course Cubs.com says differently.
Check out Road To Wrigley, my NEW Cubs Minor League System website: Road To Wrigley

by jonpyardi on Aug 14, 2007 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there a limit...
... to the number of players a team can have on the 60-day DL?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 14, 2007 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hypothetically they all...
...have to be injured.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
But seriously, is there?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 14, 2007 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty certain those limits...
...went out the window in the late 80's.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't quote me but...
I believe the limits were gotten rid of by 1990 when they went with only two types of DL (15 & 60 day DL). Also, there's no maximum number of players that can be DL (on the 60 day list) so long as the 40 man roster is full.

I remember there use to be all kinds of special DL time lengths and roster restrictions (e.g. 15-day, 21, 30).

by cubby23 on Aug 14, 2007 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, while I'm thrilled that Hendry...
...is finally listening to me, I really wish he would have consulted my entire body of work before he did this. Ah, well, my next sig is going to have to be more specific as to what roster moves I want.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

change your signature....
to sign Z Now
every time Ohman gets a hold...an angel gets it's wings

by jds2 on Aug 14, 2007 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a bad feeling about that road trip
Before the Cubs even got on the plane I didn't expect the Cubs to do well for some reason. Call it the lull before the storm, but I am guessing the fireworks will begin this week for the division lead.

I hope that the Cubs take care of themselves this home stand and not worry about the Brewers. The Cubs and the Brewers don't need to let the Reds or Cards join the party. The Cubs need to get the lead and kill the Cards this week. It could happen.

I'm looking for the younger guys to contribute big on this home stand. Pie, Theriot, Fontenot and Murton along with our starters giving quality starts. I look for Lee to find his grove again and Am Ram to contribute where he can. I can see Jones continuing his hot streak as well.

Here's to hoping the Cubs catch the bounce again and start streaking toward the finish line!

Just begin this streak by winning today.
 

6-01-2007 the Cubs begin to rise. They will never look back.

by Scott G F on Aug 14, 2007 9:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you didn't expect them to do well on the
road because they had just finished a lackluster 3-4 homestand?  And I'm not thrilled about playing the Reds right now either.  I wish the Cubs could take a week off to let ARam heal and DLee rest.  Let's hope the latter can at least get his singles and doubles stroke back.

by TR on Aug 14, 2007 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs DID take a week off
In fact... they took two weeks off.
1-RUN GAMES = 15-18 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-7 | HOME = 30-28 | updated on 8/7

by SackMan on Aug 14, 2007 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feelin' confident
Coming home.  First day off in a long time.  Top of the rotation.  Ward available.  Aramis coming back.  Kendall/Jones/Murton showing life.  Ten straight games against under .500 teams, the last three of which I intend to see in person.  Scheduled to face 7 righties and 3 lefties.  Lotsa good reasons to be feelin' confident.

Yeah there are concerns.  My main one being having Dempster and Wood get on track.  I want and expect Howry closing until Ryan shows he can get it done in the 7th/8th.

Assuming Aramis is starting, I still want DeRosa in the lineup.  Theriot has to keep leading off (unless you want to play a hot Kendall there, but I am guessing we are getting Z's personal caddy, Hill), and you probably want Fontenot in against righties, so put Mark in right.  Jones/Murton are the hot hands, so bench Pie today.  One of the main reasons they played him in Colorado was for his speed/defense in he huge outfields of Coors, but Jones can cover enough ground in the "friendly confines".  Hopefully we get in a situation to let Ward get back in the swing of things.

Harang is their ace, so this'll be a tough one, but I am feelin' confident.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2007 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Cliffy goes on the breavement list
Does that make room on the 25 man roster for a call up?

by El Borto on Aug 14, 2007 10:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He already is on the list.
And Daryle Ward was activated from the DL to replace him.

When Floyd returns I imagine Eric Patterson will be sent back to Iowa.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 14, 2007 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrigley Field Logistics Question...
Wrigley Field Logistics Question...

I have 4 tickets (in my name & credit card) for tonight's game to be pickup at will call. I can't make the game. Is it possible to have a friend pick up the tickets and use them?

I know you need the credit card and a picture id to get the tickets from will call. Is there a way to arrange it so someone else can pick them up? If I give the credit card to my friend, can he pick them up if he is not me, but has my credit card?

Any help would be appreciated!

by jjo31420 on Aug 14, 2007 11:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You should call the ticket office and
see if you can arrange to have the tickets put under your friend's credit card.  Sometimes the Cub ticket office is very helpful.  Sometimes it's like dealing with an office in a Kafka short story.

by TR on Aug 14, 2007 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definately possible
My friend in AZ got me half my supply of bleacher tickets
Call now. Your friend may need the confirmation # and your
CC info. They are probably just swamped but they are generally
very helpful.
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Aug 14, 2007 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano
Any news on how he is doing? When he will come back?

I'd love a nice easy win tonight....but I'll take a nail-biting one too.

Ryne Sandberg Game, June 23, 1984, he was 5 for 6, 7 RBI's

by mweil on Aug 14, 2007 12:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

around labor day
according to lou, according to him hell come back sooner than that . . .

by CZ38 on Aug 14, 2007 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all....
This is my first post here... and I am a Brewers fan. I know none of you like to hear that. Let me first say that I am not here to start anything at all. I have alot of friends who are cubs fans. Although I am not a cubs fan, I am a baseball fan. And to tell the truth, if the Brewers had no chance at winning the division, I would want the cubs to win it. Now that we are in such a tight race, I have to cheer against the cubs. I am sure you do the same with the Brewers. Anyway, do you all realize that if the cards have a good week this week, they could be right back towards the top....and I hate the cards, so lets not let that happen. I would not care if the Brewers were tied with the cubs at the end of this week....as long as we both beat the cards!!  I don't know about you guys, but having this tight race with the cubs/brewers is soo much fun to watch. I am 23 years old, and my whole life I have not seen a winning baseball team from Milwaukee. Most of the time by this time of year I am looking forward to the packers and the badgers. This is nice for a change. anyway, good luck the rest of the way! Should be an exciting last two months! peace

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 14, 2007 12:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree
those pesky cards are coming up from behind, and the way the cubs and brew crew have been playing, it makes me realll nervous.  a team that was considered fully out of conention a few weeks ago now has a shot...ah, the drama of the nl central.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs" - Alvin Dark

by holycow07 on Aug 14, 2007 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome...
We like baseball fans and appreciate your thoughts.  Most of us also hate the Cards and used to like the Brewers when they were in the American League.  However, I hope your winning trend  doesn't end this year.

Oh, and thank the higher power that the Packers now stink.  Go Cubs and Bears.

by N Oakley on Aug 14, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the deal
You guys sweep them Tueday- Thursday and we will sweep them Friday- Monday. Then will worry about each other

FYI I am ALREADY in trouble for saying I liked the Brewers
( but of course want to beat them) Anyway we all agree
WE HATE THE CARDINALS.

"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Aug 14, 2007 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly not a Brewer fan
but a baseball fan as well so kudos for loving and following a great sport.

I had the opportunity to meet one of your current scouts a few weeks ago and he seemed like a class act. He loved the game and really enjoyed working in the Brewer organization. I must admit I enjoyed looking at his WS ring :) (not from the Brewers).

Quite honestly, Milwaukee works one of the better small market systems out there. While not perennial contenders they look like they'll easily mimic Minnesota's periodic push to the front of the division.

My love for the Cards barely exists. I'll respect them for their accomplishments but I've got too big a grudge against them to go much past that. That said, my dislike for the Cards is so minor to my utter distaste for all things Astro... but I digress.

Welcome to the forum. Hope you're treated a little better than an enemy combatant :)

Peace.

'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Aug 14, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

going
to the game today really exited, hopefully z can be lights out and we can also get a cuple hits off harang. GO CUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by easyaspie on Aug 14, 2007 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope you
get to see a Cubs win tonight.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here, Here !
How much time left 'til first pitch? Did I mention I hate waiting ;(
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Aug 14, 2007 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Offdays make me miss doubleheaders.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Malaise
I think I was spoiled by the great 6 week run of games the Cubs had. I'm a little disinterested now, as I believe the Cubs are.

I'm hoping they can show a little passion, gaine that game back from the Brewers and win 5 out of the next 6. That should break the boredom.

by SouthsideCub on Aug 14, 2007 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting
Rotoworld says that Jake Fox is to come up along with Carmen Pignatiello. This could get interesting.

by hawkeyenation on Aug 14, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You figure
I know the Carmen thing had been posted, but the Fox thing was suprising. Looks like they realize DLee needs a break.

by hawkeyenation on Aug 14, 2007 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To continue this conversation with myself
I'm an idiot and didn't check the diary section. Move along, nothing to see here.

by hawkeyenation on Aug 14, 2007 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the Road from Iowa
Just checked the Iowa Cubs roster and both Fox and Pignatello are no longer listed. Whenever this has happened in the past, the "delisted" player has been on his way to the bigs.

Is Cedeno leaving with Gallagher?

by ceegeewow on Aug 14, 2007 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lineup...
theriot ss
jones cf
lee 1b
ramirez 3b
ward rf
derosa 2b
murton lf
kendall c
zambrano p

by seang03 on Aug 14, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking I liked the lineup, then
I noted the thing I missed.  Ward in RF?

Holy SHI.......  An outfield of Murton in Left, Jones in Center and Ward in Right has me thinking of the all defense lineups of '98 on the days with Hill in LF, Brown in CF and Sosa in right.  mmmm boy.

by N Oakley on Aug 14, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ward
Man, they really really want to get Ward back in the lineup.  Sheesh.  I'd rather have Fontenot in and Ward off the bench, with DeRosa in right.  Is Fontenot gonna miss the entire series?  The Reds have two lefties going the rest of the way.  

by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2007 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Fontenot's batting average...
...has finally made it below .300. He is continuing his rapid downward slide. Ward's numbers on the season are wildly better than Fontenot's, and Fontenot's are mostly an illusion created by his "lightning in a bottle June" that he has almost no chance of ever duplicating. So why is Fontenot preferable?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
Hopefully Jones has his PF Flyers on tonight because he is going to need to cover a boatload of ground.

by hawkeyenation on Aug 14, 2007 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

terrible..
calling darryl ward a right fielder is pure blasphemy.  a euthanised dog could chase down a ball in the gap better than DHarryl.  
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic.

by seanlovescubs on Aug 14, 2007 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And maybe
I'll win Power Ball tomorrow night. :)
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And maybe
my husband will buy me the red Corvette I want.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least...
Ward is hitting .344 at Wrigley this year, and he's got a .328 average against the Reds for his career...

Go Cubs, let's turn August around now.

"It's a pier 9 brawl!..."

by rrobinson on Aug 14, 2007 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry
that should be .298 against the Reds...(he's hitting .328 on grass)
"It's a pier 9 brawl!..."

by rrobinson on Aug 14, 2007 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"...(he's hitting .328 on grass)"
really...snoop dogg would be proud
I demind an asterisk be placed behind Neifi Perez's mark of 64 career homeruns

by jds2 on Aug 14, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson Leaves
The Cubs sent Patterson back to Iowa --
When Cliffy comes back, it will probably be Cedeno.

by ceegeewow on Aug 14, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that was an effort in futility....
never understood that callup...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 14, 2007 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a taste
Some managers believe in giving rooks a taste of the bigs.  Let him get used to the way they do things up there: the clubhouse, the travel, getting to know the other players, get into a game, field a little, hit a little, etc.  Unless they catch lightning in a bottle, you send the kid down to work on his game in AAA with his goal firmly in sight.  Now he knows how great it really is to play in the bigs.  Hopefully, it motivates him further, and he learns what he needs to work on.  The demotion is no big deal, he will be coming up again and will get a shot.  the bring em up, toss em in the deep end, and if they struggle let em drown, days are over.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2007 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any brewers suspended yet?
I feel yost&Feilder should both get time out.  Not to sound like a conspericy theorist but wasn't lou's suspension annoucned <24 hr
every time Ohman gets a hold...an angel gets it's wings

by jds2 on Aug 14, 2007 6:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LaRussa
has Kip Wells batting 8th tonight above of Brendan Ryan. That doesn't make any sense...
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 14, 2007 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he's been doing that for a while now
apparently it's working cause the cards have been winning more lately...

by anormal on Aug 14, 2007 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And is anyone
else nervous that Vitters will not be signed?
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 14, 2007 6:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

somewhat
the way I understand it is that if he isn't signed we get the 3A pick next year,  I think the 3A pick means we get a pick either before or after the third worst team this year,  but i could be 100% wrong can anybody confirm/deny this?
I demind an asterisk be placed behind Neifi Perez's mark of 64 career homeruns

by jds2 on Aug 14, 2007 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vitters will be signed
Selig has set up a slot money expectation for everyone. And the #3 guy in the draft usually waits for the #2 guy to sign before he inks his deal.

The slot for Vitters is $915,000, I believe and he's just waiting for the other dominoes to fall. He doesn't even have an agent.

It's not too late to go to Soto

by tharr on Aug 14, 2007 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is fox a catcher
gameday has him listed as a cathcer?
I demind an asterisk be placed behind Neifi Perez's mark of 64 career homeruns

by jds2 on Aug 14, 2007 6:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fox was a catcher til this year
Then either for defensive reasons or to get his bat into the bigs faster, he moved to corner OF and 1B.

by fogelmania on Aug 14, 2007 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox was a catcher at spring training.
It was determined that Fox's defense at catcher is "worse than Michael Barrett's" and "completely unacceptable." His bat is nice... for a catcher. So he's sort of a man without a position right now. His bat isn't good enough to make him an everyday first baseman/left fielder -- at least not yet. So "bat off the bench" is probably his ceiling right now. Too bad, really.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Cubbies
I feel good about tonight. I'm predicting an offensive explosion. From the Cubs of course.

by andysilv on Aug 14, 2007 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm predicting an offensive explosion.
Heck - I'd even take an offensive explosion laced with explanatives from Lou's mouth....

...as long as it produces a win.   :-)

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sit back and enjoy it
Zambrano has got special filthy stuff tonight. I smell complete game.
It's not too late to go to Soto

by tharr on Aug 14, 2007 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know he didn't turn it...
but man, is The Riot an athlete....
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

last thing I wanted to see was bases loaded...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Z
loaded bases. crap
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh....
Not who I want to see with the bases loaded.  Pull it together Z
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

whew
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whew!!
Now let's get some runs Cubs.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Phewwwww..inning over
tonight is going to be our night..

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

time to knock harang around.
get it started riot!

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Umm....
Harang is on his game. Those K's were nastiness

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee....thuuuuhhh WHIFFFFF :-|
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shoot
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well the Reds are hitting the ball.
At least this may help Z's pitch count.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This umps strike zone is huge
its going to make it difficult for both offenses, but they look a lot more promising haha

by INWes44 on Aug 14, 2007 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Check out those wheels on Ward!
n/t
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 7:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice play Rami
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I will take 7 pitch innings
Let Harang throw 15 per inning and wear his arm down.

It is a bit worrisome that Carlos is getting hit hard. Luckily they are to outfielders thus far.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

6 straight outs to start for harang... :-(
harsh tokes...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If its harsh
take out the stems and seeds.  Or get some better shit.

by GoCubbies34 on Aug 14, 2007 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

stop
stop stealing your dads schwag

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 14, 2007 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

poop
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Game over
I might as well say it, since I know someone else will soon ...

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2007 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Slow down
We n eed to get hits before we talk about runs. This offense makes the Bloomerang unhappy.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's to wishing a quick 1-2-3 inning
for Carlos..

It's a pitcher's duel as advertised.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Carlos isn't fooling anyone
Is this April Carlos to match the April Cubs?

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man...we needed Z to be big time tonight...
maybe he can straighten things out....come on Z!

by razzpunk on Aug 14, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Carlos is overthrowing....
because he knows this offense will not score much for him....the poor offense is starting to wear on the pitchers...

by razzpunk on Aug 14, 2007 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe he forgot where the...
...water cooler was again and he's cramping up.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, would someone explain to me...
...why all the inspiring comeback stories are happening to division rivals? Couldn't the A's or the Tigers dig up some past screw-up turned good so I could share in the lovefest?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey! Happy Birthday to Scott Eyre's daughter
Seriously, Happy birthday! I hope your Dad doesn't pitch tongight.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

crap
I hate this.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

eff.
i'm super-peeved.

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope The Riot didn't pull somethin'...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2-0 and it's all over
Shut off the TVs and go to bed.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2007 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shut off the TVs and go to bed.
Go ahead...don't let us stop you
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he
is doing an impersonation of all the Debbie Downers who usually show up in here.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed
Let's see what happens.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2007 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to come back home, boys
If we have learned anything from this season, we can  expect Milwaukee to lose out the season and win the division. This is not how you want to return home after a tough road trip.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't the ace of your staff suppose to...
pitch well in critical games like this?

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely hate it
when people say its going to be a pitcher's duel in the 2nd inning hitters have only seen a pitcher once, and only had one chacne to adjust to the umpire's strike zone, its so frustrating can't you just wait til at least the 4th before proclaiming something like that, same thing happened in Houston with Oswalt and Z and that clearly wasn't just need to learn how to be patient and not extrapolate small samples to large generalizations
doesn't help that were losing i need a nap im cranky

by INWes44 on Aug 14, 2007 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately it's going to take 3 innings to...
get once through the order.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and that may happen
and we might not win tonight because of our offense, on the other hand the top of the order in the 4th all having seen Harang, might help too. We'll find out soon enough.

by INWes44 on Aug 14, 2007 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

feel ya..
take a deep breath and exhale.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta admit....
If Dunn's fly would've stayed fiar I would have turned it off.  I'm not being a hater or a downer or a neagtive-Nancy but I just don't see us putting up 5 runs to win tonight, with our perpetual lack of power and Harang on the mound.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone noticed that
Harang has a no hitter going?  I dont want to jinx anyhing(no hitter) but if you retire the first six batters that a NO HITTER right?
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 14, 2007 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes you want to jinx it!!!!!!!
What are you talking about?!?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would kill me
to be on the wrong end of a no-hitter tonight.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prediction:
If the offense continues to disappoint and Zambrano continues to give up runs, Z will get in a fight with someone.  

Most likely someone on his own team.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Does his helmet
qualify as "someone?"
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Aug 14, 2007 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Matt Murton continues the no-hitter!
No hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

man.
how expensive is a base hit? can we chip in and buy one?

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z will get in a fight with someone
Where's Barret when you need him?
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yuck, yuck and yuck
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny
when things were going good in June and July, I always felt like the Cubs were going to win every game, even if they were down four or five runs. Now, I have no confidence that they can overcome a two run deficit in the 3rd inning. I honestly think that the Cardinals will catch us by the end of the week. I just don't see an end to this slump any time soon.

by qccub on Aug 14, 2007 7:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How is that funny
absolutely nothing about what you said was funny

by INWes44 on Aug 14, 2007 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather
laugh than cry.

by qccub on Aug 14, 2007 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, no hitters are so rare these days
How exciting would it be to see a no hitter?

No hitter
No hitter
No hitter
No hitter
No hitter
No hitter
No hitter
No hitter
No hitter
No hitter
No hitter

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 7:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone mention that Harang led the NL...
in strikeouts last year?  He's definitely one of the more underrated pitchers.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Aug 14, 2007 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And Fielder
hits a homer at Miller Park. Shocking, isn't it?
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 14, 2007 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Entering the night,
Fielder had 18 road HRs and 18 home HRs.

by NTNgod on Aug 14, 2007 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are hitting Z real hard tonight
as someone said before, he is not fooling anyone.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't have the luxury of living in Chicago
Rather I live in New York, where the moods of the fans change literally inning to inning. So let me ask you this-Has Chicago turned on the Cubs during this stretch? What have the columnists (not Marrioti) been saying?

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 7:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It was great in June/July
And now it is just miserable being a Cubs fan. It is like it was back in April watching them not hit, not score, and watching their pitchers completely give games away. I certainly can never stop loving the Cubs and start rooting for Milwaukee or St. Louis, but I can easily stop thinking about baseball this year just to save myself the embarrassment and aggrivation. Yikes, I think I need a new hobby.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um Carlos..
your stuff isn't looking really good this start.
"Losing is my only fear"

by Unique on Aug 14, 2007 7:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

damn
this sucks
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this sucks
it sucketh mightily...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I didn't
have such a bad headache I'd break out a new botle of Bailey's and drown my sorrows.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I drank too much Bailey's in the past week
I need to go to the harder stuff this week :-)

by zevkalman on Aug 14, 2007 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a bad headache
...about what Z is gonna give ME if he keeps this up....
:-)
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Verily, verily
'tis true, 'tis true.

by zevkalman on Aug 14, 2007 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Z
supposed to be a strikeout pitcher?  NO ONE is having problems making contact off of him tonight.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z is looking clueless
I think he is getting buried in his own emotions. If the offense doesn't come through any time soon, all our pitchers are going to go mad.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHA
Maybe we'll get to see Ken Griffey's son hit 600 tonight the way things are going!
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Zambo is going back to headcase status of April...
but maybe we can get to Harang once we get a hit.

by razzpunk on Aug 14, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

First pitch swinging
worked for the Reds every time this game. Every one was a hit or RBI

by CubFaninNY on Aug 14, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Look on the bright side of things
Big Z isn't making a lot of pitches during the game. :-)

by zevkalman on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Four runs down
Z seems to be picking up where he left off in April along with the rest of the team. Enough for me tonight.

by qccub on Aug 14, 2007 8:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Reds will be the downfall again
since 2004 they never could beat them, and the Reds played spoilers. Seems like it's happening again.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 14, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Z is seeing his Cy Young go bye-bye
I don't think he has been pitching like a Cy Young winner.  On the other hand, Harang looks friggin' awesome.

by zevkalman on Aug 14, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe that's 'perspective'
Please learn how to spell if you're going to post.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ever heard of a typo...
And I figured you'd be the one to provide it...

Let's get 'em tomorrow right???

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did they change the length of regulation on me?
Couldn't we, perhaps, go out there and get them today?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow..
Griffey his trying his best to help us.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Junior....
you're embarassing yourself on the basepath
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just imagine how
he must feel out there on that mound. Come on Big Z, shake it off and let's get out of this inning.
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Aug 14, 2007 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And to make things worse
Jenkins homers, 3-0 Brewers top of 2nd

by GoCubbies34 on Aug 14, 2007 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, is it worse, or isn't it?
All these Nervous Nellies fretting about the Cardinals -- if the Brewers beat them, that's good for the Cubs, right?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2007 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

surprised no one's mentioned...
kendall threw out his first baserunner as a cub.

things are lookin' up!

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it kinda got lost in the...
...fact that Griffey was a moron. Either that or Keppinger. Either way.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Z was not the ace he is supposed
to be again....guess we turn to Ted Lilly to get us rolling tomorrow....unless we find a miraculous way to score tonight....

by razzpunk on Aug 14, 2007 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

these comments are ridiculous
this site is having a pity party and apparently everyone is invited, baseball can get frustrating, everyone acts like its the end of the world(season) things arent necessarily going to be fine and i wouldn't promise that they would be, but good lord let it play out, whats the point of worrying yourself about the next two months if the next 5 innings could turn your outlook around?

by INWes44 on Aug 14, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let me ask you something..
Why are you worrying that they are worrying?

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im not worrying that they are worrying
but reading the comments which is inevitable becuase i do like the site stresses me out and im too young for that hahah

by INWes44 on Aug 14, 2007 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright...
Reds announcers Afflec question was Who was the only 2 reds pitcher to pitch a no hitter @ wrigley.  That is as much of a jinx i ever heard

by GoCubbies34 on Aug 14, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And....
my undefeated fantasy team is getting rocked 90-16.  What did I do to the baseball gods?
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope this is
the reemergence of Lee's power game.  I really do.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There you go baby....
1-0 Cubs
DLeeeeeeeeeeee Homers!!!!!!!!!
 

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow....Lee provides a spark...
yee haw
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ooooooooooh
no no-no tonite, harang.

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ARAM!!!!
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit a Home Run!
I swear to god I almost forgot about those. I think I thought baseball outlawed them, or made them the same as a strikeout the way the Cubs were politely avoiding them.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA
ME TOO!
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

back to back baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARam..is BACK BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

back to back??
wtf??

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ward, DeRosa and Murton...
...could keep this going, right? Right?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

back to back
woooohoooo
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This team will win and lose based on what...
Lee and A-RAM do.  Not what the "ace" does...

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They're
baaaaaaack!
There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Back to back jacks
Is it just me, or is ANY REAL offense being done with 2 outs as of late?
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

D-Lee
we're gonna need u to turn into 2005 D-Lee.

A-Ram. We need u to be A-Ram!

Welcome back!

"Losing is my only fear"

by Unique on Aug 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes I've been waiting for that.
Good to have you back in the line up Aramis

by jac on Aug 14, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ward hits it hard..
unfortunately straight to SS.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

was that enough to quiet the debbies?
it's enough for me. now settle down, carlos!

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No the brew are still winning
There needs to be a ban on miller products.  I know I havn't drank a miller all season.  Everyone join in!

by GoCubbies34 on Aug 14, 2007 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know I havn't drank a miller all season.
It's Heineken or nuthin' for me....
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good grief
give it up with the downer crap. People get frustrated because they love this team. It's called venting. Let's be real here, this team has been swirling around the toilet bowl for the past few weeks. No, the season isn't over but they are playing crappy ball right now and personally it pisses me off. I'm sure it does others as well. I'm not pissed at any one individual, I'm sure the players are trying, I'm just pissed at the losses. Is that a crime? Not everyone is an eternal optimist with sunshine coming out there a** 24 hours a day.

by qccub on Aug 14, 2007 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees
are getting embarassed 10-0 with the bases loaded for the Orioles right now.... if anyone cares.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It is nice, and we needed it
but unfortunately, those HRs do not make Carlos throw strikes. let's see if he can get out of this inning with no damage. If he can, maybe the offense will get energized.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

brandon phillips really chaps my hide.
that said, he's a fine ballplayer.

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no 5th inning twilight excitement for JJ
tonight.  there is improvement over the last homestand.  I am trying to find something positive.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 14, 2007 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Carlos
can do his best Woody Williams impression tonight. Who wants to see that? Huh? Anyone? Anyone catch what I'm throwin?

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cubs game
is 3 innings ahead of the brewers game, its going to get done like an hour before that game

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 14, 2007 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope this isnt inappropriate...
but does Javier Valentin not look like a "Javier Valentin?"  Or is it just me...
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All we need
is four more solo home runs this inning to take the lead.

by qccub on Aug 14, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we complain when there's no home runs
and complain when there are home runs.

Are you listening, Dr. Freud??

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we complain when there's no home runs
Well, there isn't 2 outs yet...
Has to be 2 outs before we get anything going...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...and we complain
about the complaining?
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Aug 14, 2007 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you read this stuff all the time
it really makes going to this Web site not worth it anymore.

This hardly is intelligent baseball discussion.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2007 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

New to the site?
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Aug 14, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Intelligent?
This is the Internet!
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
exactly.
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Aug 14, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't complaining
granted, I don't believe we will win this game tonight but I wasn't complaining, just trying to lighten the mood a bit. Why are you always looking for negativity?

by qccub on Aug 14, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to squash momentum Z...
right now this team knows how to kill themselves! Wow!

by razzpunk on Aug 14, 2007 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

See? Regression to the mean.
Kendall nails two base stealers. He wasn't going to be THAT bad all season long.

(Then again, it hasn't helped us as much as one might suspect.)

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reds
have 11 hits off Z already. I know they hit well, but jeebus...
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 14, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

in 22 ab's
they're batting .500 against him thru 5. yuck.

by rockpantson on Aug 14, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The worst part is
ownership may not be impressed enough to give Carlos what he wants with his deal. I know it's knee jerk reactions, and W-L records are misleading, but games like this and the last are just not good for Carlos and his deal.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point.
I didn't think of that but I think you are exactly correct.  That is a legitimate concern.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha
Looks like TheRiot applied the tag right on Valentine's happy area..

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

line on Z so far
11 hits, 2 walks, 0 strikeouts.

Frankly I like the fact that he's not striking out batters, at least that way his pitch count is ONLY 77. Otherwise he'd be at 95 already.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 14, 2007 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

at least that way his pitch count is ONLY 77
...twisted...but very true...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 14, 2007 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRosa's swing is looking ugly...
and he is way late reaching to those fast balls.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am sure Z will get his headcase stuff...
all figured out when the Yankees sign him and then he will be lights out all the time!

by razzpunk on Aug 14, 2007 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know...
if it wasn't for the Reds screw up on the bases (3), we would be down 8-2 or more.  We have to make them pay and come back and win this game.  Every time the Cubs have left runs on the bases this year, we have paid.

It is time to take our turn and make the Reds pay tonight!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 14, 2007 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DO NOT SWING!
PLEASE DO NOT SWING!

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need guys to get on base.
I don't think there have been any base runners. Only the two dingers.

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did Len
just called Murton a "Power" hitter?

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Slugging
over .500 since coming back up.
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by BlueSox on Aug 14, 2007 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt "The Big Stick" Murton
once hit a home run with such power that it changed the trajectory of the earth -- eeeeeeeeever so slightly.
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by BlueSox on Aug 14, 2007 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

harang
has only threw 60 pitches

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 14, 2007 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At this point in the game
I will take my chances with the bullpen.  Z is just serving them up-he doesnt have his stuff tonight for whatever reason.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Does Lou
want to win this game or not? Why is Z still pitching, he has been awful tonight. I know he wants more innings from his starters but geez, Z has given up 12 hits for crying out loud.

by qccub on Aug 14, 2007 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it me?
Or do all our fielders seem to be stretching for the ball a lot tonight (and missing).  I've seen a lot of our infielders on the ground already diving for the ball, more so than I have in a whole game before.  Just an observation :/

by GoCubbies34 on Aug 14, 2007 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pinch hit Z.
Get the inning started off well.  Or try.  

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Zambrano hits well enough...
...that I wouldn't pinch-hit for him, even if I planned on pulling him. Pinch hitting is such a low-value proposition; guys generally hit better when they're in the game than just coming off the bench.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards get it to 3-2.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Aug 14, 2007 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well....I guess we have no bench...
You know he is going to need to be taken out in the bottom half...

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Do something Riot
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on JJ
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YAY JJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is strange
This game is freaking me out. Is anyone else freaked out?

by bloomerang on Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JJ touches Sheffield babyyyyyyyyyyyy
All the runs coming on long balls..Go Figure!!!!

by cubsnlinux on Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy Crap
That was a BOMB by any set of standards.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...I haven't seen old Jones crack one that far
since his days in Minnesota.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

argh!!
5-3..we can still come back!
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

am i being greedy
to wish we had somebody on base for these HR?
I demind an asterisk be placed behind Neifi Perez's mark of 64 career homeruns

by jds2 on Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs