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They Don't Come Much Tougher Than That

It feels kind of empty, doesn't it? You sit and watch, or listen, for three-plus hours, and the Cubs come oh-so-close with an almost-ninth inning rally, and yet, all we wind up with is another loss, 5-4 to the Diamondbacks, a game that should have been won after the Cubs staked Jason Marquis to a 3-0 lead in the top of the first inning.

Marquis didn't waste too much time giving that lead back, as Chris Young homered leading off the bottom of the first inning, and then homered again, this time a three-run job, in the bottom of the second, giving the D'backs a 5-3 lead.

Think the White Sox are regretting trading Young to Arizona for Javier Vazquez now? I'm not gloating here, but this weekend the White Sox got swept in a four-game series by the Red Sox, and got outscored 46-7. That's awfully embarrassing, and Vazquez got hit pretty hard today in the fourth game of the series.

Like I said, I'm not gloating, but wow, that's bad. Even last year's horrendous Cub team never gave up ten runs four consecutive times. (Full disclosure: they did allow ten runs in three of four games from August 27-30, 2006, all losses.)

OK, back to today's bad news, but first some excitement. Derrek Lee cut a run off that lead in the third by hitting a ball about as far as you possibly can in Bank Holding Company Ballpark without hitting it OUT of said park; it took a crazy bounce off a center-field fence railing just to the left of where it would have been above a yellow line and been an out-of-the-park HR, rolling away from two Arizona outfielders. D-Lee chugged (he doesn't really have the speed he once did) all the way around the bases for the Cubs' first inside-the-park job since October 6, 2001 by Sammy Sosa at Wrigley Field. It was the second of Lee's career -- the first one was on April 12, 2003.

Irony time. Guess who Lee hit that inside-the-park HR off of?

Jason Marquis.

Marquis has had this problem before, a lapse or two in an otherwise decent outing; unfortunately, today it was enough to cost the Cubs the game. Carlos Marmol and Bob Howry kept the game close until the 9th inning, when the Cubs got a couple of runners on base. Jason Kendall was unable to lay down a bunt and wound up striking out, unusual enough, but what made it worse was Mike Fontenot's attempted steal of third -- he was thrown out easily. Ryan Theriot kept the rally going by drawing a walk, and then Jacque Jones hit a sharp grounder that the 6-foot-8 Tony Clark, in the game primarily for defense, smothered and flipped to first to Jose Valverde to end the game.

And will someone calm Valverde down? He acted like the D'backs had just won the World Series when he recorded that last out. The Diamondbacks are a potential first-round playoff opponent for the Cubs, and you can bet they won't forget those antics.

So, where do we stand? The Cubs had a decent 3-3 road trip, but as was mentioned on the broadcast, that's not decent when you were 3-1 on the trip. Fortunately, the Brewers lost 5-4 to the Giants, getting swept and dropping to .500 -- amazing for all of those who thought that after a 24-10 start, Milwaukee would never see .500 again. They've gone 41-55 since then. The Cubs thus maintain their 1.5 game division lead. Unfortunately, the Cardinals beat the Braves and now rest only two games out. Even worse, the Reds, who have the best record in the NL since they changed managers, also won today, sweeping the Marlins, and are now, wackily enough, sneaking back into the division race with a record ten games under .500, only 6.5 games out. The Cubs face all these teams again, starting with the Brewers on Tuesday night, so they can take care of business on the field. It'd be nice if they'd start doing that, like, rightfreakingnow!

Help, fortunately, is on the way. Alfonso Soriano, who I saw running in the outfield during BP in San Francisco with no apparent trouble, will be activated for Tuesday night's game and will (unfortunately, I think) be re-installed in the leadoff spot, with Ryan Theriot hitting 2nd. If it were up to me I think I'd leave Theriot leading off (he has hit .321 with a .364 OBA in Soriano's absence). It is, however, not up to me. If nothing else, Soriano will provide a power threat that's badly needed. I also think Aramis Ramirez could use a day off, so maybe with Soriano back, Mark DeRosa could start at 3B in one of the Milwaukee games.

Earlier in the day I was at the luncheon party for Jenna's Bat Mitzvah. Now, normally you probably wouldn't care about this, and I probably wouldn't write about it, but it was held at the Wrigley Field Stadium Club, and I thought many of you might want to hear a bit about what that's about. The venue is spacious, though it has no view of the field (the windows you see on Sheffield just before the bleachers begin are the windows in the club). It holds about 150-175 people comfortably; there are plasma screens throughout. The food was quite good, not ballpark fare, but what might be a typical buffet for an event like this (carved meats, some brunch foods, and desserts). The usual DJ/party events went on, and they also gave a tour of the ballpark to all the kids (or "young adults" as the MC called them). One thing that's become tradition for some Bar and Bat Mitzvah kids is to make a photo/video montage, sort of a "This Is Your Life So Far"... and to finish off Jenna's (in fact, using a video camera loaned to her family by me), there were video greetings and congratulations to her from Ryan Dempster, Scott Eyre, Jason Marquis (the only Cub to have been Bar Mitzvahed himself), Lou Piniella, and all four radio/TV broadcasters, a very cool souvenir of the event.

Incidentally, I too did a doubletake driving by the ballpark and seeing the old car wash on Waveland demolished, as first described by BCB reader lapetino in this diary. The area is fenced off, and makes the entire area west of the ballpark look far more "open". What's to be done with that area, whether the proposed building that the Cubs put on the back burner earlier this year will ever be built, is still to be determined.

In the meantime, time to build a division winner. Enjoy the off day. I think we all need it, maybe as much as the players do.

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Geovany Soto for Blanco
That's my pitch for building a division winner...

(Too cheap to pay for mlbtv... watched game on gameday, ugh)

Languishing in Card Country.

by evillecubman on Aug 26, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm sorry
to all of you. i got a little to excited with my bold posts earlier. shake it off and get some rest tommorrow. maybe we will get the 40/40 soriano tuesday. go cubbies on your way to cubtober.
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Aug 26, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A bat mitzvah at the Stadium?
That's about 1,000,000x cooler than my bar mitzvah was.  That's friggin' awesome!!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 26, 2007 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Way cooler than mine was, too.
Mark's is a year from now. I'm seriously considering having the party there.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 26, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And what about the BCB bash
You were talking about holding for all of us when you mentioned "big news" was coming?  

;)

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 26, 2007 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
"Bash"? I don't remember any "bash"!

;)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 26, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps...
  • Al will appear in the next Batman movie, being filmed in Chicago.
  • Al will be one of the next "Walgreen's batkids".
  • Al won the Powerball Lottery and put up a bid to buy the Cubs.
;-) As Al would say, "speculate amongst yourselves".

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 26, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
I can say definitively that I did NOT win the Powerball.

But please, speculate away.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 26, 2007 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al, can anyone book an event there or...
...do you have to know somebody on the inside?  i.e. a Cub or Trib bigwig.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 26, 2007 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure anyone can book an event
A quick Google search found me a number you could probably call for more information:

773.404.4100

Found here...
http://www.levyrestaurants.com/Levy/DiningExperiences/SportsAndEntertainment/Group4/Wrigley+Field.ht m?UserPref=culture%5Een-US

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 26, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks much - very cool and very helpful
I'll be putting this info to good use sometime next year - any month except October...  ;-)

To quote Col. Hannibal Smith from the A-Team - "I love it when a plan comes together"

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 26, 2007 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough loss
but I have no problem with Lou putting the runners in motion.  More times than not, it would have worked and he would have looked like a geniouis.

Here is the bottom line; they are 1.5 games up with about 35 to go, and they have gotten everything you could expect out of the starting pitching, pen, Theriot, DeRosa and even Jones the last 6 weeks.  If this team does not win this mediocre division, it will be because Zambrano, Lee, Ramirez and Soriano don't play up to their expectations in September.  If they do, they will win the division by 5+ games, if they don't, they are in trouble.

It's time for their best players, to be their best players.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 26, 2007 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree, agree, agree
With Soriano coming back, the race really begins Tuesday.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't agree more
It is time for the super stars to step up.  Especially Zambrano.  I'm tired of excuses it is time to win.  

by mgfabc on Aug 26, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the Brewers are at .500
talk about a complete meltdown..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 26, 2007 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wrote earlier today about the
Brewers of 2007 playing true to form with Brewers version 2006. No doubt that is in their head. They have talked about "we put last year behind us." Hah! Now the Cardinals have to go back on the road...good luck. As for the Cubs, I agree, the big names have to step up in the big time. It is time to make a serious run in this 24 game run in the next 23 days. This is where Lou will have to show off the team's depth and ability to push buttons. But most importantly, the big guys will have to start producing. Crunch time, baby!!
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 26, 2007 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A problem with the "good" teams
Imo, while the Cardinals were taking two of three from a very good Braves team (you didn't hear Texiera's name much in this series), the Cubbies managed a .500 road trip where they got another non-clutch start from "Roller Coaster Ronny" on the mound.

The D-Backs are purely a better team. The Cubs just do not match up with them, or many of the other teams above .500 in the NL - look at 'em:

Mets, Phillies, Braves (.500 this year), D-Backs, Pads, Dodgers...

It will remain to be seen if the team can crank it up this month against the Brew, Cards, and Reds - or as the above member said, just simply shrink and go away. The "Roses and Rainbow" people here choose optimism, while I'm like Harry Truman: "Show Me."

In any case - we ALL want the same thing and at LEAST we are all still talking about playoff possibilities and its almost September!

No matter what happens, its been a fun ride in 2007. Man - I hopeIhopeIhopeIhope that Soriano freakin' finally turns it on and shows us what he can REALLY do.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 26, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well said
it is nice to be in the race for a change and win or lose it has certaily been better than last year. The D-Backs are a better team than the Cubs, along with several other teams in the NL. Fortunately, none of those teams are in our division. We may be able to limp along a few games over .500 for the rest of the season and actually make it into the playoffs. If we do make it, anything can happen from that point on. We just need to get there. I keep hoping for a nice 6 or 7 game winning streak that could put us 4 or 5 games out in front. I'm also far less worried about the Brewers than I am the Cardinals at this point.

by qccub on Aug 26, 2007 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with all of that....
... except your comment about the D'backs being better than the Cubs. Frankly, except for their bullpen, which is outstanding, I don't see how they are 17 games over .500 with a -32 run differential.

Sooner or later that's going to come back and bite them in the butt.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 26, 2007 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish
it would have bit them in the butt this weekend :).

by qccub on Aug 26, 2007 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 26, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh - I actually meant
historically - the Cubs suck against the D-BAcks if I recall correctly.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 26, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It really isn't that mysterious
The D'Backs have a significant problem in the #5 slot in their rotation and have had ever since the Big Unit went down.  They have won numerous series in the past three months by winning two close games (their record in 1 run games is outstanding) and then they will lose a game by double digits.  The negative run differential keeps piling up, along with the wins.  And there is no reason this cannot continue, as long as they get good pitching, good defense and clutch hitting on the days when they are not getting blown out.

The Cubs, OTOH, have for significant stretches this year, been just the opposite.  They will lose a couple of close games and then win a blow out.

This is just another example where sabremetrics is a bunch of numeric masturbation.  Pythagorean win projections are for geeks and has nothing to do with how baseball is really played.

by jazzman56 on Aug 26, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Run differential
is just another meaningless statistic. To quote Al Davis, owner of the Raiders, and former San Francisco Manager Roger Craig, "The DBacks just win, baby!" Arizona has been blown out a few times this year leading to the large run differential, but clearly have a deeper bench than the Cubs.

As far as Papa Grande's "antics," if the Cubs don't like it, beat him. He acts no differently than The Mad Hungarian, Al Hrabosky, did 30 years ago. I like it when players stop acting like robots and show some emotion, win or lose.

When he played, didn't Ron Santo click his heals like a ballet dancer after a Cubs win?

by davewillie on Aug 26, 2007 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One reason
Is because pitchers make mistakes to that sham of a leadoff hitter Chris Young.  The guy is a dead-pull hitter, flailing wildly at anything other than middle-in, yet Marquis pounds him inside and then leaves a pitch out over the plate in the second AB.  Whomever is responsible for that scouting report, be it the advanced scouts, Rothschild, or Marquis and Blanco for the execution, bears the brunt of that game.  Once they kept the ball away from Young, he was brutal.

But that is something that should have been plainly obvious.  I've seen Arizona play a handful of games and could have told you that.  A guy hits .237 for a reason.  

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Aug 27, 2007 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned this before
and is the main reason the Cubs lost the game yesterday.  It's one thing to give up a leadoff solo homer to the guy, but after that, you can't let him beat you again with 2 guys on.  Marquis has a history of being stubborn with his pitch selection, and this was another example of poor execution, and pitch selection.  As a veteran, he should know better.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 27, 2007 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From a head-to-head............
........perspective, the concern should still lie with the Brewers.  For the past three seasons the Cubs have shown the ability to beat the Cards while not faring as well against Milwaukee.

And with six games remaining against the Reds, who they also seem to give games to, it will be interesting.

by tville on Aug 26, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to bury Milwaukee
and focus on the Cardinals.  The Cardinals' starting pitching may suck, but their pen's very tough, and they're the luckiest franchise in baseball.  They're the Cubs' main competition in the Central.  Milwaukee's done and hopefully the Cubs stick a big fork in them this week.
SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Aug 26, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cardinals sure are lucky....
what with losing their Ace to injury after the first game of the season, having several players perform well under their career norms,  and having several off the fields issues effecting the team at various times this year. What a lucky team.

by FriendlyCardFan on Aug 27, 2007 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well..............
...........expecting blue hairs like Edmonds and Rolen to replicate their past is certainly folly.

And while it's likely most teams have some form of drunks and druggies, the Cards involved in such activities were exposed this year.  That's not bad luck, but perhaps dumb luck.

If Cards fans wanted to blame anyone for their results they need look no further than management.  After printing money last year in a new stadium and full post-season run, they respond by throwing essentially ZERO DOLLARS back into their on-the-field product.  An apprehensible move, I believe.

by tville on Aug 27, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I don't think any Cub fan
should talk about another pitcher "overreacting" when Big Z is the worst of the bunch.

by Peoria Matt on Aug 26, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

very, very true -
well said.
"2007. Our year. Our beer." - G. Heileman Brewing Co., Milwaukee, WI.

by ilovepie on Aug 26, 2007 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heileman...M'waukee?
When did Heileman move from LaCrosse?

by no on Aug 27, 2007 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
Their closer got out of a very big jam in the 9th and his reaction was appropriate and fun to watch.

The Cubs had many chances to win this one. I grow increasingly concerned that once we have Soriano back, we will have two hitters in ultra critical positions who are not appropriate: Soriano is no lead off hitter and Lee is in a major funk and should be moved out of the #3 spot. His great inside the park home run was more an anomaly given his recent performance than an indication of possible future performance IMHO.

by t9mike on Aug 26, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This one's on Lou.
Before you all come shooting at me, I'll explain.

First, I should come out and say that yes, Marquis wasn't lights out but pitched relatively well. It was basically one hitter who gave him problems for only two innings. Unfortunately, those few mistakes counted for too many runs, enough to lose today.

Second, I cannot talk about lack of offense after scoring four runs in two innings and threatening all day long with runners on base. Unfortunately, I have to admit that the team didn't show any clutch hitting in the latter part of the game, as usual, thus causing another one run loss.

I was all over Lee and Ramírez for not hustling Saturday. I'm glad to point out, to be fair, that they did hustle today. I watched the Cubs broadcast today, but I understand that Grace was all over Ramírez today, again. He's wrong. The guy ran to first on the pop-up, he just wasn't going full speed ahead, and he was right in not doing so. Apparently Grace doesn't know the difference beweeen hustling and being stupid.

Finally, admitting all of that, I have to point out sadly that Lou cost us some opportunities to score today. I don't know if we would have scored after all, but the manager is there to maximize those chances if he can.

Two situations were badly managed by Lou. First, letting Marquis hit (bunt) instead of bringing a pinch hitter (I believe it was the top of the 6th). I understand that Lou didn't want to go to the bullpen early with the big series against the Brewers coming up, but Marquis was done. He didn't last 6 full innings. Opportunity lost.

Ninth inning: another missed chance. It was cute to send the runners with no outs as a surprise. It wasn't good strategy when the other team was expecting it. Lou should have called the play off. He could have kept two on base unless Kendall hit for a DP. And even then, the inning was still alive. Yes, Kendall failed in that at bat but that K should not have led to a DP. That changed the outcome of the inning. No wonder Valverde was celebrating; he had nothing and still got the save.

Also, credit the defense for grabbing Jones's hard grounder. That's usually a single.

That's my take on the game. As for the week, I'm sorry but a .500 road trip is not good enough for a contender. Let's hope that the home stand will be better for the team, with Soriano back. I just hope he's ready and is not being rushed back.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 26, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The three run bomb
Marquis gave up was really the killer in this game.  He has a history of getting stubborn with pitch selection, and he really did a poor job to the one guy on the team that could really hurt you with the long ball.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 26, 2007 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Particularly after
Young already hit one off him earlier.

The Cubs' postseason fate remains in the balance. Regardless of what happens, however, I echo what's been said earlier. This has been a fun season and one that has rekindled my hopes in this franchise.

Not to steal anyone's thunder or give some people too much credit, but I do believe it's true: It's gonna happen. It's just a matter of when.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.
It seems both Lilly and MArquis wilt sometimes after two strikes or two outs...

But they are not Brandon Webb.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 26, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kendall is a contact hitter
and he's not terribly fast. I didn't think it was a bad decision to send the runners. Unfortunately, he didn't make contact, but that didn't make it a bad idea. The real problem occurred when he failed to get down a bunt.

Too bad Soto wasn't available. He had another 4 RBIs today and hit another HR. Perhaps we'll see him behind the plate soon.

It's not too late to go to Soto

by tharr on Aug 26, 2007 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.
Lou should have taken the play away when he took the bunt signal away. He didn't. Result: double play.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 26, 2007 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suddenly..............
.......the limited patience shown by this team has gone into the toilet.  Aside from Kendall, DeRosa and Theriot, the Cubs roster is swinging before it gets into the box.

And with Soriano returning, the patience level is not likely to improve.

Aside from getting more runners on board with walks, "taking a few" runs up of the opposing pitcher's count, an important factor at this time of year.  Jeez, even Doug Davis, a guy averaging more than THREE WALKS per start, was only able to "ball four" one Cub Saturday night.  Terrible.

If they don't start exercising some restraint at the plate, I fear they won't be able to succeed in making the post-season.

by tville on Aug 26, 2007 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really don't think that was an issue
this weekend.

Davis was all over the strike zone in his start. There wasn't much swinging from the heels in that game. If someone throws something over the heart of the plate, you better swing at it.

By and large, I think their plate discipline was fine this weekend, given what they had to work with.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta disagree.
Today, the Cubs had 38 plate appearances and they swung at the first pitch 12 times.  Of those put into play, they recorded four first-pitch outs against one hit.

Yesterday, 9 of 35 times a Cubs hitter offered at the first pitch.  In one case, the batter reached on a single, but in three other cases a one-pitch out was recorded.

Meanwhile, Davis goes 7 full with 104 pitches in his start, and after Petit was yanked today, the Cubs only saw 76 pitches over the last 5 innings.

They need to take more pitches and draw more walks.  Only two teams in the NL receive fewer free passes, so it's an area to be improved for sure.

by tville on Aug 26, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It also depends on what the pitcher gives you
If they're throwing around the strike zone, you can't sit there with the bat on your shoulder.

In general, however, more patience would be a virtue.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem in Davis's game
was that strike zone was a mile wide (for both sides). Very few walks all night. It made batters look bad as you had to swing or get called out on pitches well out of the strike zone. The home plate ump really helped Davis (with his control problem) stay under control as it made the Cubs stay aggressive. Davis had a good ump for his game, it happens.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 26, 2007 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree totally.
Being a Dbacks fan, I have complained all season that hacking is not the way to go against some of these unknown pitchers and pitchers who have a propensity for 4 balling batters to excess.  Too bad that the Cubs didn't meet up with Livan Hernandez.  He loves to ball four the team to death.  Doug Davis has been extremely good since the All Star break.  We are having major problems with our 5 starters.  Wheresmero my fast, curve, slider, and changeup Petit has been extremely disappointing since his remarkable outing back in Wrigley, in July.

I really do hope we meet you again in the Post Season.

by az ice cold mo on Aug 26, 2007 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be fun
and I'll bet it would be a heckuva series.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree on letting Marquis bat
He has been a GOOD bunter probably better than almost anyone
on the bench. He blew it but this was not a situation to use up
a potentially valuable bench player. I still find inexcusable that
the Cubs at least appear to not practice bunting. It is a crucial
skill and they are very poor at it.
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Aug 27, 2007 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grace
Who is he to talk?  Coming from a guy that regularly peeled off on double play balls and jogged to first once the ball was fielded, hello Mr. Pot, it's Kettle calling.  
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Aug 27, 2007 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou has done everything
humanly possible in one season to take a bunch of losers collectively and change the culture to a winning one.

He is wonderful, but does do some head scratchers where I just can't understand things where his decisions blow up.

However, I can't think of anyone I'd rather have in this last month other than LaRussa - who although I loathe - can do more with less than anyone in MLB.

My only wish other than obvious play to improve in crunch time, is that Albert Pujols is intentionally walked in every at bat against the Cubs. Let's do the "Hack-a-Shaq" on this guy and make the other guys beat us. Swallow the damn ego and take the chances elsewhere.

Do you think may have learned this after Albert hit 3 HR's against us last series?

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 26, 2007 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shades of Popeye?
I remember in 89, Zimmer used a hit and run with the bases loaded that was successful, and he was lauded as a risk taker for his out of the box thinking. Of course, had it failed, he would have been ripped up and down the line (and probably justifiably so).

If that hit and run works, there are a lot of people saying "what a great call."

Posting since May 4, 2005

by Ross on Aug 26, 2007 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Decisions
The D'backs reliever was having trouble with his command, no?  So why send the runners?

by no on Aug 27, 2007 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i totally agree with that.
i would never pitch to pujols unless the game is a total blowout. it's not just his bat, it's the way the team feeds off of him.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 26, 2007 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to quote Lombardi...
What the hell is going on here?

What is this garbage about how it's a fun season?

The team spent Yankee-like in the offseason. They'd better damn well have been contenders. According to all that Pythageorean mumbo-jumbo, they are underachieving.

I don't want to hear about all this "fighting the good fight" nonsense.

A good fight is one you win.

Normally, I wouldn't care much about the closer celebrating. But the fact that it came after we got a lecture in etiquette from that Arizona blogger makes me want to throw up.

Blogician, heal thyself!

by lancaster99 on Aug 26, 2007 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I never said
it was fun necessarily, I said it was a lot more fun than last season. Of course, a 15 hour root canal would have been more fun than last season. Hey, I don't buy into the fighting the good fight crap either. I want to win, I am sick and tired of losing. But the fact that we are still in it at this point of the season makes the rest of the season a hell of a lot more interesting and in fact meaningful than last September. Having a legitimate shot at the post season is fun to watch, even though I still get pissed off every time they lose. The reality is, we are in the best position of anyone in the Central to win the division right now. Everyone else has to catch us.

by qccub on Aug 26, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're forgetting how dysfunctional
things had been here in the latter stages of the Dusty era. And how much un-Dusty-fying Lou had to do. (Not to mention some un-Hendry-fying.) That took most of the first two months of the season.

I think it's been proven it often doesn't matter how much money you spend.

This has been a fun season. I have a feeling it might soon become a lot more fun.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh,and PeoriaMatt is correct ...
When a team has one of the most notorious showboats in baseball, you really can't point fingers at anybody else.

Were I Valverde, I think I would have reacted the same way, particularly knowing I didn't have my best stuff.

That's a separate issue from the Arizona blogger, who apparently isn't used to opposing fans in his team's park. (My solution to that, as it is when the Brewers fans complain about Wrigley North, is simple: If your fans buy more tickets, that means there are fewer for Cubs fans. If your fans don't buy them, you have no right to bitch.)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or..
You could just try to pull some shit like *not selling them to anyone with an out-of-state credit card--right Brewers fans?

by no on Aug 27, 2007 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did the Brewers actually try this?
I've been buying tickets there since the County Stadium days and never have had a problem.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 27, 2007 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Milwaukee Bucks used to do this...
... during the Bulls championship run. You couldn't buy tickets if you had a northern Illinois billing address on your credit card.

It also happened in Miami during the 2003 NLCS -- they wouldn't sell to anyone who didn't have a south Florida billing address on their credit card.

Didn't matter in the NLCS -- there were at least 25,000 Cub fans at all three games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 27, 2007 3:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was most galled, NBF
By his blather about how Cubs fans are "guests"

When opposing teams start letting us in for free, then I'll consider myself a guest.

Right now, I'm a customer, same as any D'Back fan.

by lancaster99 on Aug 26, 2007 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Precisely
Diamondbacks fans had the same opportunity as Cubs fans to buy those tickets. Actually, they might have had a better opportunity, if the majority of the Cubs fans were from out of town.

But they didn't.

That's more an indictment of your fan base than anything else. Don't complain to us.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, to clarify
Not your attendance at the game that bothers me: the atmosphere at the past couple of games has been, for the most part, great fun. It's those who think buying a seat gives them the permission to behave like boorish jerks I mind. Some of the stuff I saw happen on Friday was out of order, anywhere. Saturday and Sunday, I had to turn out my pockets on the way in to the game: that's the first time I've ever had to do that at Chase, even when going to the playoffs just after 9/11. Friday's behavior clearly was bad enough to merit an upgrade on security.

by AZ Snakepit on Aug 26, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen boorish fans all over
Not just wearing Cubbie Blue.

Some of this, I think, is because Cubs fans might be more hardcore than D-Backs fans. Or at least there are more of them.

I suspect if thousands of Diamondbacks fans were to find their way into Wrigley Field, you might run into the same situation.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My one experience at the Chase
For the 8/12 Nats-DBacks game included:
  • 30 percent of the fans leaving after the Nats went up 7-6 in the 9th. I realize Phoenix fans are a little new to regular season baseball, but we play nine innings in non-spring games.
  • Three idiots behind me making fun of Kerry Wood's injuries, after they saw my Cubs hat.
  • Some 11-year-old attempting to lead the wave about 3,108 times. I finally screamed for him to give it a rest, and got some appreciative thumbs-up from my fellow customers. (Or guests, as apparently people who pay money to get a seat are now called)
  • Vendors -- not just beer, but soda, water, ice cream sandwiches and frozen coffee -- who looked in the section to the right of me on the way down and in the section to the left of me on the way up. Morons.
You can find boorish behavior at every single game. The problem with blogs is that everyone feels the need to record every utterance for posterity.

by lancaster99 on Aug 26, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to say
I am so with you on the wave thing. I can only apologize. :-) Mind you, I noticed it rolling around the ballpark this afternoon too, and it definitely wasn't only D-backs fans who were involved. Like you say, you find that everywhere...

by AZ Snakepit on Aug 26, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the BOB in 2005
we sat in the club-level seats and saw a waiter only once the whole game. Of course, it was just after I got up to search for food.

That said, I thought the park was very nice. And since it was the first series of the season, the weather still was temperate, so the roof was open.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dr. let me give you a hint on where to sit.
When going to the Morg, oh Chase, from the Right Field foul pole to home plate choose seats that start from 1 to 10.  That way, you won't be inundated with those hard working vendors who traipse down and up the isles looking to unload customers pockets with over priced and under quality consumables, or those fans who show up late in the second or third innings and don't request an usher to assist them in locating their seats quickly.  

From the Left Field foul pole to home plate choose seats that have high numbers so that you won't be inundated with the same stupidity.

Speaking of stupidity, why am I blogging this inane information to Cub fans?  They are inundated with bad vendors, bad fans, and for many years, some very bad baseball!

by az ice cold mo on Aug 26, 2007 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rest -- Looking for opinions
I only get WGN, so sometimes I am radio-only.  However, it seems to me that some of the guys are running on fumes, particularly Lee, Ramirez, Kendall, and DeRosa (who finally got a day off today).  I also don't remember the last time that Riot didn't start.  We have a day off tomorrow, then 24 games in 23 days.  Is anyone else as concerned as I am about whether these guys have enough fuel in the tank to make it to the finish line?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 26, 2007 9:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think a day off
will do some good, but I'm not overly concerned about it.

The Cardinals have it worse: Tomorrow is their last off day of the season. 35 games in 34 days, I believe.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 26, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, the Redbirds have
a tougher schedule. And Poo-holes has wounded legs that are as bad, if not worse than A-Ram. And "Rolaids" (at 3B) needs shoulder surgery after the season. Edmonds has a tough back problem...still. "Issy" it seems, is throwing his share of more than one inning outings to get victories for TLR. Will this leave him exhausted come the last few weeks of the year? We shall see. So these guys have plenty to worry about too. We are still in first. The RedBirds are spending a tremendous amount of energy just trying to get to .500 ball. Let's see our guys take care of business with the BrewCrew this week and go from there. One day at a time, as Lou says.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 26, 2007 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pray for rain to get more days off.
Suck it up and enjoy the season.  You weren't here last season and your in the thick of things now.  Relish the moments.  Complain and analyze because we are all fans who ultimately want the same thing, a chance at the coveted World Series Trophy.  We are all fans and it is our right to complain about anything.

This is going to get more fun as the weeks progress to the end of September.

By aware of the black cat crossing the foul lines!

by az ice cold mo on Aug 26, 2007 11:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else realize...
...that the REDS are only 6.5 out?

W-O-W!!!

SD JazzMan was right - they have been the best Comedy Central team for that last seven to eight weeks.

They have too many teams to climb over, but I give them credit for battling back.

"2007. Our year. Our beer." - G. Heileman Brewing Co., Milwaukee, WI.

by ilovepie on Aug 26, 2007 11:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for letting me blog with you all
It is nice to mix it up with fans on this blog site who know what they are talking about.  Over at the AZsnakepit.com we are maturing quite nicely and intelligently.

I plan on blogging here and rooting you all on to the post season.  

I grew up with the emotional scares of Cubbie Blue.  From 1969, 1984 (Steve Garvey and Leon Durham shits), 1989, 1998, and through 2003 have been roller coaster rides of emotions.  Let's see what this season still has in store?

by az ice cold mo on Aug 26, 2007 11:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
and good luck to the D'Backs, too. I like their grit. Plus, Eric Byrnes is crazy, in a good way.

Don't be a stranger.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 27, 2007 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope to meet up w/ you again....
in the first week of October!
I'll be a believer once we beat Capuano

by cubbie08 on Aug 27, 2007 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game today
And even though Marquis didn't have great stuff, you still can't let Young beat you. I like what Marmol did when he faced him today - a little high heater to back him away. I could have hit that pitch that Young drove for the 3 run jack. He's the frigging hottest hitter on the team, you have to pitch better than that.

To be fair, we had our chances and failed to cash in. I understand Lou trying the hit and run in the ninth, but they knew it was coming because of the pitches Kendall was fouling off and they saw the runners starting. You can't give them 2 outs in that situation. If he takes the h/r off, we only have one out and still 1st and 2nd with The Riot coming up. That's what was the most upsetting, because Valverde was very hittable today and we gave them an extra out.

The Lee inside the park HR was one of the most exciting things I have ever seen. I was screaming as soon as I saw the ball drop down after hitting the wall and knew it was going to be a footrace.

Munroe's fly out in the first was unreal! That ball almost hit the girders of the roof in left field! That was a monster moon shot, too bad it was higher than longer.

The Snakes have had our number since their inception. A win today would have gone a long way to help us if we meet in the playoffs.

You look at the D Backs run differential and say no way they can be in first. But, they win all the close ones and when they lose, they lose big. They have a scrappy, young team. That's what baseball is all about. You look at the lineups and say we take these guys no problem, but that's why you play the games.

I do agree that Aram and Lee need a day off. Everyone else looks ok, those two are on fumes.

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Aug 27, 2007 12:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree taking the H/R off...
....and lost in all of that was Fotenot got a horrible jump and was out by a mile. How do you not get a good jump on a H/R play?
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by carmenfanzone on Aug 27, 2007 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A good jump is less necessary...
On a hit and run, it's more important that you not get picked off.  If the hit part is executed properly, then the jump is irrelevant.  If you're running at all on a hit and run, it's very unlikely you'll get thrown out.  That's why people tend to be more cautious with breaking for 2nd/3rd on hit and runs than they would be on straight steals.

by SouthernCub on Aug 27, 2007 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly right
you are taught to not worry about getting a good jump on a hit and run.  The whole strategy behind the play is you are relying on the hitter putting the ball in play, which makes a good jump less important.  With a 3-2 count, it really was more of a run and hit, because the hitter has the option of taking ball 4 and everyone moves up anyway.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 27, 2007 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
If Kendall puts the ball in play, pretty much anywere except to third base, at the minimum we have 2nd and 3rd with only one out. If it gets through the infield, one run and a guy at 1st and 3rd. If he takes the pitch for a ball, we have ducks on the pond with nobody out. Basically the worst case scenario happened. Typical Cubs luck againt this team.

It's funny, I really root for the 'Backs and attend games here, but when my Cubs come to town, I treat the games like the Cubs vs. the White Sux! I loved how we drowned out the home team fans at times with "Let's Go Cubbies!" I can't imagine what it will be like if we meet in the playoffs. It was definitely a playoff type atmosphere on Sunday. Still had fun...

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Aug 27, 2007 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's ok guys.
I'm so excited for this weekend where I can enjoy college football, and the cubbies are still in contention.

Go Hokies.

by jbowling13 on Aug 27, 2007 7:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

calm down?
And will someone calm Valverde down? He acted like the D'backs had just won the World Series when he recorded that last out. The Diamondbacks are a potential first-round playoff opponent for the Cubs, and you can bet they won't forget those antics.

Right... because the Cubs don't have any pitchers who respond in similar ways.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 27, 2007 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry
fist pumps (which are also antagonistic) and the way that fool acted, are MUCH different.  DBacks are a good team but he acted like a damn fool and I for one was annoyed.  I would have thought the Cubs didn;t appreciate it either.

Maybe it was payback enough that he looked like someone that just got off teh "Dream Team" bus with those moves.  That or Elaine Benes dancing on Seinfeld.

MMMMM...Mannys corned beef and a latke

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 27, 2007 10:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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