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Drama, and Open Thread: Cubs vs. Astros, Friday 8/31, 1:20 CT

If you read the New Yorker magazine, you are familiar with its famous cartoons, which always tell funny, poignant, ironic or hilarious stories with just one line of text.

I brought the current issue to the ballpark last night to read it before the game; it happened to have a baseball-related cartoon. I'd have posted it here, but to avoid copyright violations I checked out the New Yorker's policy on posting them on other sites. They wanted $600 for a year's license, so instead of seeing it on this site, you'll have to look at it via this link, and please do before you read the rest of this post.

Done? OK! Now wasn't that just about how you'd have described what should have happened to Ryan Dempster during his far-too-dramatic save of last night's 5-4 Cubs win over the Brewers? Although, somehow I can't see Lou Piniella hugging Dempster, or for that matter, any of his players.

Dempster got the job done for his 23rd save, although not before giving all of us a scare by allowing a leadoff double, hitting Rickie Weeks (the third time Weeks was hit in the series; Cubs pitchers hit five Brewers in all during this series), then getting the next two hitters before intentionally walking Prince Fielder to load the bases (a no-brainer move, I thought).

On a close 3-2 pitch with the crowd roaring, Corey Hart walked, forcing in a run to make the score 5-4, and then I was absolutely stunned to NOT see Geoff Jenkins hit for Kevin Mench. Almost before I could express that opinion out loud, Mench slapped a sharp grounder to Ryan Theriot, who got the force at second to end the game, and increase the Cubs' lead to 2.5 games, assuring that they would be in first place on September 1, tomorrow.

Why do I mention that?

Because as Dave van Dyck reminds us in today's Tribune:

... since 1995, when baseball split into six divisions after a prolonged strike, 59 of 72 teams that led Sept. 1 also led at the end of the season.

Last year four teams sweated through the September steam bath, although the Tigers and Dodgers faded down the stretch. The year before the Red Sox and A's failed to hold leads.

Of course, leave it to the Cubs to be involved in one of the exceptions. That came in 2003, when the Cubs were 1 1/2 games behind the Cardinals and Astros on Sept. 1 but finished one game ahead of Houston and three ahead of St. Louis.

If nothing else, the Cubs are way ahead of where they were last time the Brewers visited Wrigley Field, June 29-July 1. They were 6 1/2 behind then.

Not only are they ahead of where they were then, they're ahead of where they were starting August. Going into the game of August 1 vs. the Phillies, the Cubs were 1 game out of first place. Now they are 2.5 ahead, despite going 12-15 so far in August.

Anyway, it can't hurt to be ahead. Then all you have to do is win your game, and it doesn't matter what anyone behind you does. (Incidentally, van Dyck conveniently leaves out the 1994 strike season, which is when baseball actually did split into three divisions, but didn't have a postseason).

As far as the Brewers go, we appear to have finally determined the easiest way to beat them -- let them score first. For the second time in the series, Milwaukee took the lead early. They scored two first-inning runs off Ted Lilly, who had absolutely nothing last night, but who managed to make it through five innings tied after the Cubs had another long-sequence rally (walk, double, single, walk, single) to score three in the third. The extra inning of work, which came after Lilly batted for himself in the 5th (and singled!), helped save the bullpen for the weekend.

And then Carlos Marmol came in and dominated for two innings, striking out five with that filthy slider of his, while Matt Murton and Alfonso Soriano gave the Cubs the lead with back-to-back solo HR off Chris Capuano, who had relieved Manny Parra after Parra suffered a minor injury to his thumb attempting to bunt. I didn't think anyone could hit the ball out last night, as the wind was blowing in pretty good at game time. It had died down by the sixth, when the two HR left the yard. Bob Howry threw an efficient eighth, setting up Dempster's heart-stopping save.

Incidentally, Soriano's HR gave him the team lead back with 19. There are only five other teams in baseball who do not have a 20-HR man (LA Dodgers, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, Kansas City and Texas, and Texas would almost certainly have one if Mark Teixeira hadn't been traded).

Doesn't matter. The Cubs are winning, and showing they can do it with -- and without -- HR.

I should note, since there has been some contentious talk between Brewers and Cubs fans this season, particularly on this site and Brew Crew Ball, that a couple of nice guys, Brewers fans, sat by us last night. When Chris Capuano came into the game, they both said, "It's over!", and after Murton and Soriano's HR, they both called him "Crapuano", and left an inning later.

And so, onward. The weather's supposed to be gorgeous all weekend. Let's hope the baseball at Wrigley Field is, too.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Sean Marshall
 S. Marshall
Cubs
vs. Wandy Rodriguez
 W. Rodriguez
Astros
7-6 W-L 7-12
4.04 ERA 4.67
58 SO 136
27 BB 49
12 HR 18
vs. Hou -- vs. Cubs
Sean Marshall is only 1-3, 4.24 in four lifetime starts vs. Houston. Keep him away from Chris Burke, who is 5-for-7 with a HR vs. Marshall. In his last three starts Sean is 2-0, 3.38.

Rodriguez threw 8 innings of four-hit, one-run ball against the Cubs in Houston on August 6, a game the Astros won in extra innings. The key to the previous sentence is the phrase "in Houston", because on the road Wandy is 1-9 with a 7.80 ERA and 1.68 WHIP, which includes giving the Cubs nine hits, three home runs and seven runs at Wrigley Field on July 15. Today's game is again on WGN; it should be on Extra Innings (which, according to the list now on my EI channels, is covering all 15 games today) and also at the Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

Final note: I gave an interview to Tom at The Baseball Zealot yesterday; click here to listen or to download it as a podcast.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Soto won the MVP for the PCL
wow...this is unheard of for a minor league catcher. He's going to be called up tomorrow. He is definately the future of our organization..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 31, 2007 9:01 AM CDT   0 recs

Where did you get the info...
... that he'll be called up "tomorrow"?

The PCL season doesn't end till Monday. I would imagine the callups won't happen till after that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 31, 2007 9:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Iowa and Callups
I am pretty sure that only the 4 division winners qualify for the playoffs in the PCL. Since Iowa can't catch Nashville in their division, there would be no need for Soto, Pignatello, and any other possible callups to remain at Iowa after today.
Interesting note -- Cubs moved Gallagher and Hart back to Tennessee so they could get work. Good chance Tennessee gets into the playoffs in the Southern League. From what I've read, it looks as though Gallagher or Hart will start one game when we need the extra starter due to the DH in St. Louis.

by ceegeewow on Aug 31, 2007 9:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Iowa is out of the race
Interesting tidbit....the only other MVP from the Iowa franchise (back in the American Association) was Zambrano.........Eddie Zambrano.
This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Aug 31, 2007 11:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Calm down.
Don't get your hopes up just yet. I mean... Pie, E Pat, Cedeno, and Murton were all hitting like .350+ in that league. And, (aside from Murton) they haven't done squat in the bigs.  
1-RUN GAMES = 17-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 35-32 | updated on 8/31

by SackMan on Aug 31, 2007 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bullpen
The bullpen was fantastic again yesterday as it's been for the most part since the end of June.  Excellent win.  Lilly battled for 5 grueling innings without anything close to his best stuff and the bullpen came in and shut the door.  If the offense doesn't step up and start scoring more runs the Cubs will need these types of performances from the bullpen down the stretch.  Let's keep it up!

by cubsbak on Aug 31, 2007 9:12 AM CDT   0 recs

ready to change your tune
on murton?  another solid month of august.  i really hope he can platoon with jones in right next year--scorched slicing fly balls not withstanding.
Big Z on Cuban: "Plus, I can be signed by him. You know, I know he has the money for me. Hopefully he can buy the Cubs."

by kylejo on Aug 31, 2007 9:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

C'mon
Give it up already.  What're you his agent?  It was great to see him get his 16th RBI of the year.  Not so great to see him get his 4th error of the season.  Hopefully the Cubs have a better option for right field next season.  

by cubsbak on Aug 31, 2007 9:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

just checking
dont want to get into a debate, but i thought his .313/.362/.547 line with 4 jacks in 68 at bats this month might have changed your mind.  I sure hope he gets his playing time next year platooning with jacque.
Big Z on Cuban: "Plus, I can be signed by him. You know, I know he has the money for me. Hopefully he can buy the Cubs."

by kylejo on Aug 31, 2007 9:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was told
by a prominent member of the Murton fan club to only pay attention to Murton's statistics that are accumulated while he's starting at least 9 consecutive baseball games.  Since he didn't start last night and hasn't been starting in 9 consecutive baseball games I'm not supposed to pay attention to anything he does.  

by cubsbak on Aug 31, 2007 10:02 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: I was told
Death, taxes, reality TV shows involving Flavor Flav, the Matt Murton debate...it's nice to know there are still some constants in life.
Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 31, 2007 10:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear ya
I was minding my own business admiring the fine bullpen work last night when a charter member of the Matt Murton Love Brigade starts pestering me.  Isn't there anything better to talk about than the worst position player on the roster?  The Cubs are in a pennant race!

by cubsbak on Aug 31, 2007 10:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"Flava Flav?"
C'mon!
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 31, 2007 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah boyeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 31, 2007 10:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

HA!
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 31, 2007 11:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You left out the error in RF
He stinks. He can't even play an acceptable corner OF position. If he were hitting 40 HRS a year like Adam Dunn, then you could live with that horrible defense.
1-RUN GAMES = 17-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 35-32 | updated on 8/31

by SackMan on Aug 31, 2007 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"scorched slicing fly balls...
...not withstanding" on the post above.  His range factor is good, and he gets rid of the ball quickly and accurately.  His arm strength is nothing to be proud of, but hes not an adam dunn in the field either.

the spin on that ball and the velocity it was hit with was incredibly difficult to judge last night, youd have to admit.  definitely an error, but you can see why he missed it.

Big Z on Cuban: "Plus, I can be signed by him. You know, I know he has the money for me. Hopefully he can buy the Cubs."

by kylejo on Aug 31, 2007 10:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah. I see why he missed it.
Cause he stinks.

So far this season, I've seen him drop two fly balls, let a number of hits rattle around the corner like a pinball machine, and now with last night's error, I've seen more than ball get pass him.

1-RUN GAMES = 17-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 35-32 | updated on 8/31

by SackMan on Aug 31, 2007 10:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

C'mon
Why are you paying attention to his actual play?  You're supposed to ignore his miserable defensive play on the field and only pay attention to "range factor" statistics or whatever.  That's what tells you he's a good fielder.  Don't believe your lying eyes...

by cubsbak on Aug 31, 2007 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Everyone take notice....he did fine last night
Murton is what he is, not an All Star. Could he be? Maybe, maybe but he will have to change alot in his approach and start driving the ball into the outfield instead of primarily being a ground ball hitter with average speed.

That said, he did hit a HR and has shown some power this August he has hit 4 HR's and 3 2B's 68 AB's scoring 10 runs on 20 hits, 12 of those hits during a stretch where he started 13 games consecutively, 47 AB's (.255-BA) during which his 3 of his 4 recent solo HR's came.

I am expecting Murton to perform in the opportunities given to him down these 30 games. The league has found his hole, he is not driving the ball to the opposite field so they are pounding him inside. Last night he hit an off speed curve or slider up in the zone (mistake) and did what a major leaguer should do, park in the seats.

Fortunately Marmol struck out the side when he misplayed the liner to RF...should have retreated and angled it so it would not get past him.

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Aug 31, 2007 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

mis-wrote
I meant pounding him outside and trying to get him to roll over and hit ground balls. He has this dip in his swing that i think is blocking his power as he seems to hit the ball later than other players. He has got to find his niche..is he an OBP guy...or a OPS guy.
Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Aug 31, 2007 10:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

HE HAS CHANGED HIS APPROACH
Hence, the number of strikeouts piling up... and the number of flyball outs.

Unless this guy drives in 90+ runs a year (which doesn't look like it's gonna happen any time soon) there should be no place for him as a starter in the major leagues. His defense is horrendous, and he doesn't drive in enough runs to outweigh the piss poor defense.

He should shorten up that swing again, and go back to being a contact hitter. Then, he could find a job on somebody's bench as a good pinch hitter.

1-RUN GAMES = 17-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 35-32 | updated on 8/31

by SackMan on Aug 31, 2007 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have resigned
myself to the fact that he'll most-likely be an o.k. 4th OF, but certainly not a "defensive replacement".

There are jobs in MLB, consistently, for folks like this.

But, a perennial All Star? No.

Terrific HR last night, but he tried hard to give it right back in the next inning. That's what you get from the guy...

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 31, 2007 10:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The other part of his game that kills me:
He doesn't hit with guys on base. He only hits when he leads off an inning, or there's nobody on.

.301 with nobody on.
.216 with runners on.
.191 with runners in scoring position
 

1-RUN GAMES = 17-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 35-32 | updated on 8/31

by SackMan on Aug 31, 2007 10:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he grew another foot yesterday
he's now up to 8'4 375lbs!!!

//sorry, just hadn't posted this in a while ;-)

You may run like mays but you hit like $#!%

by cubsirishkillme on Aug 31, 2007 11:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What a game!

My heart is still beating strong from last night!  And I swear that I sang "Hey Lou Piniella" in my sleep all night.

The Brewers announcers interviewed DeRosa after the game.  DeRo said that it was the loudest that he had ever heard for a baseball game.  I'm guessing that he wasn't talking about the first inning...

Fun stuff!

by Ghost of Fred Merkle on Aug 31, 2007 9:13 AM CDT   0 recs

Very intense
game last night. I needed CPR after that ninth inning. Dempster can really drive you nuts sometimes, but to give him credit he has been very good as of late. I wouldn't call him good last night, but he was good enough. It feels great to pick up another game on the Cardinals too, they make me nervous. Regarding Wandy Rodriguez, I hope we allow him to continue his streak of futility on the road.

by qccub on Aug 31, 2007 9:15 AM CDT   0 recs

I love this quote from Dempster...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2998803&lpos=spotlight &lid=tab6pos1

Meanwhile, Marmol wasn't too shabby himself -- punching out five Brewers in two spectacular shutout innings. So when Dempster was asked later if he was mentoring Marmol on how to be a closer some day, the current closer quipped: "No, he's mentoring me."

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Aug 31, 2007 9:16 AM CDT   0 recs

Cartoon
Hugging aside, Lou would also probably insert an expletive or two in the "Now throw some strikes" line.

by BrownE34 on Aug 31, 2007 9:25 AM CDT   0 recs

Also wanted to add...
that my heart stopped twice last night. Once in the ninth and the other when DLee fell on the plexiglass...he's ok though:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/536438,CST-SPT-cubnt31.article

First baseman Derrek Lee landed hard on the Plexiglas shield protecting fans in the first row near the on-deck circle and bruised his ribs. But he stayed in the game and said afterward he was fine. ''You need a tow truck to get him out of the game,'' Piniella said.

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Aug 31, 2007 9:28 AM CDT   0 recs

Bruised ribs are not fine
Baseball is a rotation sport and this could effect him for a while.

When I looked at this adaptation of plexiglass it really is another injury waiting to happen. It should be higher or if not glass then netting.

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Aug 31, 2007 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Taking years off my life
I must of lost about 8 months off my life last night (2 when D Lee ran into the wall and 6 when Dempster came in and almost blew it), but as I continue to watch this team, they seem resilent and battle back. Marmol was disgusting last night. Striking out 5 of 6 batters. Let's hope Sean can put it together today and we can stretch this lead to 3.5 and 4. I will be watching the game on mlb.tv while I am at work, gotta love the 2:20 starts Eastern Time (Rhode Island fan here)

Cheers

by mossey12 on Aug 31, 2007 9:42 AM CDT   0 recs

Brutal ninth inning...
...but a good result. I think when the book is written on Ryan Dempster, that's how many of us will remember him: As a guy who seemed to always stretch the rubber band as far as it could go without breaking. (OK, it breaks occasionally -- particularly against the New York Mets.)

And how 'bout that Carlos Marmol? To paraphrase Muhammad Ali, "He's a baaaad, baaaaaad man."

Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 31, 2007 9:46 AM CDT   0 recs

We finally beat him.....
I can believe now!
I'll be a believer once we beat Capuano. Updated 8/31/07: I guess I can be a believe now!

by cubbie08 on Aug 31, 2007 9:46 AM CDT   0 recs

re: We finally beat him.....
If I were Chris Capuano, I'd fake an injury and take the rest of the year off. Seriously.
Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 31, 2007 9:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, folks....
...this morning's Sun-Times can end any consternation we have about the playoff rosters.

Because the Cubs have four players on the disabled list, no roster maneuvering is necessary at today's deadline for setting 25-man playoff rosters.

As long as a player is on the DL, he -- or his roster spot -- is eligible for the postseason. And anybody in a team's organization before Sept. 1 is eligible to replace the injured player for the start of the playoffs.

One rules change since the Cubs were last in the playoffs eliminated the requirement that a pitcher on the DL be replaced by a pitcher and a non-pitcher by a non-pitcher. That eliminates the need to make a paper move today to configure the roster to reflect the number of pitchers and non-pitchers for the desired playoff roster.

So the team still has September to decide who might make the playoff roster, if we make it.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 31, 2007 9:49 AM CDT   0 recs

ready to change your tune on murton???
does a simple "no" work.

by bigzaccountant on Aug 31, 2007 9:55 AM CDT   0 recs

it must be hard
not to like .300 hitters who consistently get on base and slug over .500 in the second half every year.
Big Z on Cuban: "Plus, I can be signed by him. You know, I know he has the money for me. Hopefully he can buy the Cubs."

by kylejo on Aug 31, 2007 9:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like Murton
And agree with you that he belongs on the team.

But why are you trying to start another Murton argument?  Some people just don't like him. He has enough bad traits to go along with his good August that figuring out his value to the club is not an easy decision.

You like him, others don't....let it rest

by El Borto on Aug 31, 2007 10:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

huh
im not, i was responding to a post, with a post...isnt that what we do on a message board?  on my above post i was just checking in to see if someone had changed their mind at all, specifically stating, "i dont want to get into a debate"

not sure what youre reading here.

Big Z on Cuban: "Plus, I can be signed by him. You know, I know he has the money for me. Hopefully he can buy the Cubs."

by kylejo on Aug 31, 2007 10:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Right, I forgot..
The Murton lovers only want people to pay attention to the statistics he accumulates when he's starting 9 consecutive baseball games between the months of July and September.  You're supposed to ignore everything else.  Got it.

by cubsbak on Aug 31, 2007 10:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yep
its going to be september in a day, so now those are the only stats i care about!  murton for certain baby!
Matt Murton career in September: .321/.401./576, 10 jacks (165 ab). Make sure Matt the Bat gets in the lineup this month Lou!

by kylejo on Aug 31, 2007 10:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Your signature makes me smile
It makes me very thankful the Cubs are finally in a pennant race this year playing meaningful games in September rather than playing meaningless glorified exhibition games in which borderline major leaguers are able to accumulate statistics.  Thanks for the reminder!

by cubsbak on Aug 31, 2007 12:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What Did Murton Do To You
What did Murton do to you to earn this kind of constant attack.  Of the regular outfielders on the Cubs, he's now got the second best OPS after Soriano.  He's been just fine as an offensive player since he was called back up... and yet you treat him as if he struck out every time that he came to the plate, placed wake up calls to keep the entire team up while on the road, slept with all of the wives, girlfriends, life partners and boyfriends of all of his teammates and otherwise was a complete jerk.  

Its the only way that I can reconcile attacks launched on him even when he has a game where he is 2 for 2 with a home run or 1 for 2 with a walk (while the rest of the team isn't hitting at all).   Even those that have pointed out Jones and Floyd's problems tend to be a little quiet when those blind squirrels find acorns.  But not Murton.  Nope.  When he has a good game, like the 30th, the attacks seem even more strident.

by frustratedfan on Aug 31, 2007 10:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I loved Dempster's
interview after the game last night. He does make me nervous at times. Marmol is just one fantastic pitcher!!

Very happy to see Matt and Soriano hit home runs. They should both be MVP's of the game.

Just do it again today Cubs!!!

I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 31, 2007 10:03 AM CDT   0 recs

How funny was it
To see Marmol toting around that Hello Kitty backpack?  That has to be one of the best/most fun rituals of the Cubs this year.  I bet Carlos will be glad when they call up someone junior to him and he no longer has to lug the pink bag of shame.

by SuperContext on Aug 31, 2007 10:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: How funny was it
It was funny, and I'd again point out the irony of the guy with the filthiest stuff in the pen having to carry that thing.
Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 31, 2007 10:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL! So, that was Marmol's bag
Under the bench in San Fran... when Vizquel hit that triple. LOL.
1-RUN GAMES = 17-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 35-32 | updated on 8/31

by SackMan on Aug 31, 2007 10:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I gotta say that was a team wins with lotsa
key plays, no clear cut MVP. Lilly gutted out 5 innings with not much, JJ key hit in 2nd, big jack by Matty, great shutdown by Marmol and Howry, and a great double switch by Lou. The Brewers are pretty potent lineup to keep in check and Marmol/Howry really did a great job of keeping them off of the bases during the key innings. That ninth was a bit too close for comfort, kinda like playing with fire.

by billybuck on Aug 31, 2007 10:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I should have
said that Matt and Soriano are my choice for MVP. It's fine if you don't agree.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 31, 2007 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i think ron santo agrees with you!
back to back jacks for what, just the second time this season?  i wish i was listening to 720 last night.
Matt Murton career in September: .321/.401./576, 10 jacks (165 ab). Make sure Matt the Bat gets in the lineup this month Lou!

by kylejo on Aug 31, 2007 10:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm just glad that we can discuss who's
MVP in a great win instead of all the bashing and ledge jumping that normally takes place during the game on BCB. I see that you're a faithful poster, but I just can't take all the negativity that spews every time someone doesn't perform to perfection. I just avoid the site altogether until later in the evening. Glad to see you here because you seem to keep some posters civil and help to clean up the language.

by billybuck on Aug 31, 2007 1:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks for the
compliment. I just don't understand the negativity either. Let's hope the Cubs give us lots to cheer about this weekend.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 31, 2007 2:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cartoon
Great cartoon, Al. I think every fan in Wrigley would have liked to hug Dempster and say the same thing.

The one positive you can take from the agonizing 9th inning is that we have improved our 1 run game record.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Aug 31, 2007 10:21 AM CDT   0 recs

A very maddening game
I kept turning off the TV, then sneaking back in to watch the game. My wife and I left to go out to dinner and it was 3-3, came back and it was 5-3 Good Guys (sorry for the Hawkism ;)

Dempster was scary, Lilly threw a gutty game, Big Red and Sori came through in a big way. Just another day at the 'ol ballpark, i guess lol

Welcome to the last month of the divisional race!

Go CUBS!!!!

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Aug 31, 2007 10:22 AM CDT   0 recs

Ponder this for a moment:
Starting August the Cubs were 1 game out of first and if I were to tell you then that:

1.    Big Z would not win a SINGLE game in the next month,
2.    Soriano would miss 2/3 of the games with an injury,
3.    Dlee and Rammy would have 3 homers in the next month (I think, I didn't check this),
4.    we would get swept by the Astros, (yea that team, how bout some payback this wkend)
5.    JJ would be considered the MVP for the month
6.    cubs would have a losing month
7.    and did I mention a LOSING record.

We all would be getting ready for the Bears season by now.  But lo and behold all this did happened and we find ourselves 2.5 games in front of the Brew Crew and 3 in front of the Birds.  What a roller coast of a season, just think if this team turns things around this week or next and wins 5-6 in row.

What a year this could be!!!!!

by BigZ 4 Cy on Aug 31, 2007 10:23 AM CDT   0 recs

Agreed.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 31, 2007 10:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

DeRosa's Big Blast
late in the game gives even more "heft" to the HR's by Murton and Soriano.  I thought it had a good chance, but the Brewer's outfielder got it with his back against the ivy.  Now that would have been more good insurance to have with Dempster on the mound!
Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Aug 31, 2007 10:23 AM CDT   0 recs

i gotta say,
that it is frustrating to read the often re-hashed debates about murton as to whether he is total crap or the second coming of willie mays. he is neither. he has a role to play on this team and he does a decent job of it - not awesome or terrible, but decent. i for one was thrilled when he hit the homer and bummed about the error. such is life. GO CUBS!

by anormal on Aug 31, 2007 10:25 AM CDT   0 recs

People, people...
What's with all the histrionics here, using words like "far-too-dramatic", "scare", "CPR", "heart stopped", "taking years off my life", "brutal"...

C'mon - don't you all remember Mitch Williams?  This should be old hat for Cub fans...  ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 31, 2007 10:29 AM CDT   0 recs

It is old hat
That doesn't mean we get used to it.  Just cause you've had one heart attack doesn't mean you're prepared for the next.
"Don't think; it can only hurt the ball club."

by Jesse Guam on Aug 31, 2007 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I get nervous
Brewers can flat out hit, I was sort of glad he walked Hart to force in a run. Hart is good, and will be an All-Star. His catch off of Theriot was incredible. Like Al said, no Jenkins for Mench, No wonder Brewer fans what Ned Yosts head. From pulling Suppan early to not hitting for Mench. Glad he swung at the first pitch.
 I just hope Lilly and Z have a solid September. They have not been sharp for a while. I believe Theriot needs a day off. I am sure Cedeno will come up 1 September, I know what everyone will say, but the Riot needs a day.

Just start hitting fellas, Go Cubs
 

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Aug 31, 2007 10:43 AM CDT   0 recs

RE: Pulling out Mench for Jenkins
Ned Yost is having a tough time making peace with his players and he is not experienced to guide a team that too a very young team through a pennant race. Just recently tempers flared in their dugout wherein Yost was seen having a shouting match with his players. Earlier in the season Mench was complaining about playing time and I am very sure if Mench was pulled out yesterday in favor of Jenkins and if Jenkins fails to get a hit then there would have been some egos badly hurt. I cannot think of any other reason for not pulling out Mench for that critical at bat.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 31, 2007 10:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ummm....
Jenkins is 4 for 22 lifetime vs. Dempster, not really the kind of numbers that you'd expect good things out of if you are Yost.  Not to defend his tactics because I could care less what he did, but it's not as if Jenkins has been beating down the door vs. Demspter.  Mench on the other hand had faced him only once before, thus no real advantage or disadvantage either way.  

As far as experience, Yost was the bench coach for Bobby Cox for a good portion of the Braves' extended post-season run.  That excuse is just not accurate.

Just like Piniella was second-guessed for running in the ninth inning of the finale against Arizona, if Mench had driven in the tying and go-ahead runs, Yost would have been applauded.  That's just the nature of the beast.  Not pinch-hitting for Mench wasn't that bold of a move.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Aug 31, 2007 11:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs